[00:46] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: poing
[00:57] <kristian-aalborg> private?
[00:58] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: sure... you can PM me anytime
[04:36] <Elise001> Seidos?
[04:39] <philipballew> Elise001, I dont think hes on
[04:39] <Elise001> Thanks.
[04:40] <Unit193> He isn't online right now.
[04:43] <philipballew> Elise001, you can usually on most irc apps look to the side and see if a person you want is on. or start typing their name and use tab completion to see if it finishes the name. if it does, their online
[04:44] <Elise001> Thanks,philipballew.
[04:44] <philipballew> anytime Elise001 :)
[07:02] <philipballew> if i'm formating my external drive. what would be the best filesystem to format it to. ext3 or say 4?
[07:02] <philipballew> or something else?
[07:04] <krusi> depends on what you will use it for, if for linux data storage only i use ext3
[07:04] <bioterror> ext4 is the golden path
[07:04] <krusi> for some reason, ext4 didn't impress me :)
[07:05] <philipballew> im gonna set it up to rsync my desktop
[07:07] <st33med> krusi, ext4 greatly improves read and write speeds
[07:08] <krusi> and can greatly improve on write errors on crashes :)
[07:08] <st33med> It's generally better. philipballew, if you only use linux to read and write to the drive,  that's fine
[07:08] <krusi> considering that SW is developed more poorly every day
[07:08] <st33med> krusi, SW?
[07:08] <krusi> software
[07:08] <st33med> um...
[07:09] <philipballew> yeah. i had it as ntfs and it crashed on me
[07:09] <st33med> philipballew, if you want to access the filesystem with windows, it can't read ext4 or ext3 systems.
[07:09] <philipballew> now i have to find a copy of windows to fix it.
[07:09] <krusi> poor software -> more crashes-> more problems :)
[07:09] <philipballew> i dont have a copy of windows on my laptop
[07:10] <st33med> krusi, I'm still not getting where ext4 falls into poor software
[07:10] <Error404NotFound> windows rules!
[07:10] <st33med> It's a partition
[07:11] <philipballew> Error404NotFound, yes. good thing to put on the ubuntu channel
[07:11] <bioterror> krusi seems to be feeding fud
[07:11] <krusi> it's not directly related to partition, the fact is that poor software causes crashes and unintended crashes tend to have unwritten data on ext4, unless they fixed this caching
[07:11] <Error404NotFound> lol
[07:12] <st33med> krusi, that write is up to debugging software
[07:12] <st33med> Not the partition itself
[07:13] <krusi> well..if you can disable delayed allocation it would be good i guess :)
[07:13] <krusi> but with this disabled,you get performance hit again
[07:14] <bioterror> someone is about to use external drive and you wonder performance
[07:15] <bioterror> as we can assume he is using USB2.0
[07:15] <philipballew> i am
[07:15] <philipballew> two point zero
[07:15] <bioterror> geee what talk
[07:15] <st33med> Oh you are right
[07:15] <st33med> But the standard consumer isn't going to worry that much about it.
[07:16] <philipballew> im not the standard
[07:16] <krusi> ahh..don't get me started on external disks :P
[07:16] <philipballew> the standard doesnt ask questions at 12 in the morning on irc
[07:16] <bioterror> krusi, go ahead and start
[07:16] <krusi> a bit too early, need to grab some coffee first :)
[07:17] <philipballew> its 12 here. the world is big
[07:17] <krusi> it seems bigger at 9am :P
[07:18] <philipballew> where are you?
[07:18] <bioterror> slovenia he is from
[07:18] <philipballew> california myself
[07:19] <philipballew> its hotter then aferica here
[07:19] <bioterror> than
[07:19] <bioterror> its your native language
[07:20] <philipballew> english here. well mostly
[12:04] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:05] <duanedesign> morning stlsaint
[12:05] <AlphaPsi> Hello, I was wondering if anybody knew a way to create Flash Games on Ubuntu. On windows there was FlashDevelop, but that is only for Windows. Is there an Ubuntu equivalent?
[12:05] <duanedesign> hmm, i am not sure
[12:07] <AlphaPsi> Hmm, I was wondering if there was a way to create flash games like with Flash Develop. I really like Ubuntu, and I don't want to keep switching to Windows everytime I wanted to create something.
[12:09] <AlphaPsi> Hmm I found this tutorial to use FlashDevelop on Ubuntu, but I would need to use Wine, and I have no idea how to use wine. :/
[12:10] <AlphaPsi> http://www.flashdevelop.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7535
[12:24] <coalwater> AlphaPsi, u just install wine and then it auto starts with any .exe file
[12:24] <AlphaPsi> It says there are there Windtricks or something you have to install. What are those?
[12:26] <coalwater> wine tricks is another package
[12:26] <coalwater> i think both are in the software center
[21:47] <sdollins> Hihi.
[21:47] <sdollins> I'm using 2 monitors and when I have the secondary monitor connected, the cursor speed (left and right only) is super fast but it's slow up and down. Is there any way to make it be the same?
[22:41] <fedy> hello I am some what new to Ubuntu os and I looking for resources to learn Ubuntu
[22:42] <sdollins> Like a book?
[22:42] <fedy> what does the beginning team do?
[22:42] <fedy> I check out your website
[22:43] <sdollins> http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-11-04-Desktop-Applications-Administration/dp/1936280280/
[22:43] <sdollins> I've read some his books and they were pretty good so I imagine that would be.
[22:44] <fedy> ty i check it
[22:49] <fedy> I see the book is cheaper if you buy it in Kindle edition.
[22:56] <sdollins> yeah lol
[22:56] <sdollins> I'm not sure the kindle reader works on linux though.
[22:58] <FireBeard> sorry, just had to check if I had the name of this channel right :)
[22:58] <FireBeard> bye
[23:01] <fedy> I been reading the Ubuntu guide on the community documentation site http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/All_Versions
[23:01] <fedy> Its is helpful
[23:19] <AlphaPsi> Hello everyone, in Wine, how do I create a new wine prefix? I heard that you can just rename the .wine folder, is that true/corect ?
[23:28] <geirha> AlphaPsi: Yes, if .wine doesn't exist, it'll just create a new one.
[23:28] <AlphaPsi> Ah I see, thank you
[23:30] <geirha> You can also tell it to use a different directory, e.g.:  export WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine World of Warcraft"; wine wowinstaller.exe
[23:33] <geirha> I find that useful as you may need different configuration for each game/program
[23:42] <AlphaPsi> geirha, what do you mean?
[23:44] <geirha> Games in particular may need tweeking of graphics, sound and library settings in winecfg, but such changes may break other games/programs
[23:45] <geirha> So giving them each their own wineprefix solves that.
[23:46] <AlphaPsi> How would I do that, just use your command?
[23:46] <AlphaPsi> geirha would that create a new wine folder? or?
[23:46] <AlphaPsi> Sorry I'm new to Wine and Ubuntu in general
[23:47] <geirha> Yes, it would.
[23:48] <AlphaPsi> Ah I see, what would the name of the folder be?
[23:49] <geirha> Whatever you set in the WINEPREFIX environment variable
[23:49] <AlphaPsi> export WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine World of Warcraft"   would make it World Of Warcraft?
[23:50] <geirha> WINEPREFIX=~/.wine-starcraft wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe
[23:51] <geirha> That would create a folder ".wine-starcraft" in your homefolder, with it's own C: and such, and then it runs setup.exe from the cdrom you have inserted.
[23:52] <AlphaPsi> Do I need to put the export in front? What does export do?
[23:53] <geirha> Not in the last one. That one will run the command ''wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe'' with WINEPREFIX=... added to its environment.
[23:54] <geirha> wine will look for WINEPREFIX in its environment, and use it if it exists, otherwise it'll use the default value, ~/.wine
[23:55] <geirha> export var=value will add an environment variable to the shell's environment.
[23:56] <geirha> And any commands you run from that shell after that, will inherit the shell's environment variables.
[23:57] <AlphaPsi> Weird
[23:57] <AlphaPsi> I installed Wine
[23:57] <AlphaPsi> but I don't see the .wine folder
[23:57] <geirha> PlayOnLinux uses separate wineprefixes for each game/program it installs I think.
[23:57] <AlphaPsi> Even though I can see other hidden folders
[23:58] <geirha> It won't be created before wine tries to open it.
[23:58] <geirha> Installing or removing a package will *never* change any of the files in your homedir
[23:58] <AlphaPsi> Oh okay, so I actually don't need to create a new wineprefix for the very first time? because it'll automatically create it right?
[23:59] <geirha> Yes.
[23:59] <AlphaPsi> Ah I see, sorry I'm very new to Ubuntu