| benonsoftware | Is the Asia RMB this or last week? | 08:46 |
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| benonsoftware | ronin___: Fine thanks. | 08:47 |
| benonsoftware | you? | 08:47 |
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| ogra_ | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is ogra_. | 15:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110707 | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | is everyone here ? | 15:00 |
| * ogra_ pokes the arm team | 15:00 | |
| GrueMaster | zzzz | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | infinity, around ? | 15:01 |
| ppisati | o/ | 15:01 |
| * ogra_ sees janimo and pokes to see if he's alive | 15:01 | |
| janimo | o hai | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | ah, good | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | so only infinity is missing | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | likely asleep | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | lets get started then | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | [topic] standing items | 15:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: standing items | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html | 15:02 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html | 15:03 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | i moved most items to A3 that were not DONE | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | if you have any items that actually are DONE and just miss the paperwork, please correct :) | 15:04 |
| infinity | o/ | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | infinity needs to move his remaining three items too :) | 15:04 |
| GrueMaster | I can move the usbboot wi to A3. Won't get more done until next week. | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, are you here ? seems there is an A2 item on the workitem tracker for you | 15:05 |
| GrueMaster | netinstall testcase documentation will be added today or tomorrow. | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: yup, for kernel I believe, let me check | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | can you move, drop, close it (whatever is appropriate) | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | sure, will move it for now | 15:06 |
| * ogra_ notes doko and lag also have items on the arm tracker | 15:06 | |
| rsalveti | yep | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | anyway, lets see that we have that cleaned up by tomorrow | 15:06 |
| lag | ogra_: Link | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | moving on | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | lag, above :) | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | the alpha-2 tracker | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | [topic] arm server status (NCommander, Daviey ) | 15:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: arm server status (NCommander, Daviey ) | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | hmm, i guess both are on vacation | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | we have server images thanks to tireless testing work from GrueMaster, a d-i upload from infinity to fix netboot and apw for a linux-omap4 upload ! | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | \o/ | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | that was awesome (cross)team work ! | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | sadly it didnt fix desktop or omap3 | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | anything else for server to add ? | 15:09 |
| infinity | Nope. | 15:09 |
| ppisati | ogra_: did we miss the usb fix patch for omap3? | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, nope, but it segfaults on boot | 15:09 |
| ppisati | ogra_: DOH! | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | patch seems to be in | 15:10 |
| GrueMaster | ppisati: Not sure. It has other more serious issues. | 15:10 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: ah, you mean the oneiric kernel? ok | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | [topic] kernel status ppisati, cooloney) | 15:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: kernel status ppisati, cooloney) | 15:10 |
| ppisati | Kernel development: usual CVE fixes across different branches. | 15:10 |
| ppisati | Oneiric/ti-omap4: we reached an agreement with agreen/linaro to get the TI BSP on top of a vanilla kernel, as a result a new oneiric/master-next-based kernel is in the work - see git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ppisati/ubuntu-oneiric.git ti-omap4-next. Still a WIP, kernel panics on boot ATM, do not use. | 15:10 |
| GrueMaster | ppisati: See bug 806113 | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 806113 in linux (Ubuntu) "Series of segfaults early in the kernel boot process on omap." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806113 | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, yes, oneiric omap | 15:10 |
| ppisati | ok, i'll assign it to me | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | (not omap4) | 15:10 |
| ppisati | for tegra: ask to orga&c :) | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | well, i plan to move to .38 soon | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | with the a100 package | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | once i got that it will also go to oneiric | 15:11 |
| ppisati | ogra_: btw, i tested the ac100, and it seems the wireless tends to loose pkts | 15:11 |
| ppisati | did you notice it too? | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | some people do | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | seems hw specific | 15:12 |
| ppisati | k | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | i have one device with crappy wlan and one where it is rock solid | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | same model | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | same parts | 15:12 |
| ppisati | same revision? 10z etcetc | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | yep | 15:12 |
| ppisati | crap | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | 10V | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | anything else for kernel ? | 15:12 |
| ppisati | nope from me | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | . | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | .. | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | ... | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | moving on then | 15:13 |
| GrueMaster | ppisati: Can you look at bug 779410 for possible race condition in the kernel? | 15:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 779410 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "package initramfs-tools 0.98.8ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779410 | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | [topic] arm porting/ ftbfs status (NCommander, janimo) | 15:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: arm porting/ ftbfs status (NCommander, janimo) | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, i doubt it is the kernel | 15:13 |
| * ogra_ got pinged today that json-glib has a fix in debian | 15:14 | |
| ogra_ | thats holding up a lot other stuff, we need to get it synced | 15:14 |
| infinity | Can do. | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | not sure how important the other stuff on the ftbfs list is | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | (who uses emacs23 anyway) | 15:15 |
| infinity | Oh, it was synched 10 minutes ago. :) | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | apaort from that http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ looks pretty good for that state of the cycle | 15:15 |
| * janimo is curious what the fix was, so goes take a look | 15:15 | |
| ogra_ | universe could need some love though | 15:16 |
| GrueMaster | There is no love ein the universe? | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | i wonder how we could get the community more active ... PPAs would be good :P | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, there is, but apparently not in the places i look at :/ | 15:17 |
| persia | No, not PPAs: that just gets more stuff fixed *somewhere* that isn't useful. | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | for testbuilds that helps a lot | 15:18 |
| persia | That's true, although it's sadly not used that way usually (from what I see) | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | its a lot less effort to just enable a PPA than to set up a local virtualization env or some weird cross env | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | well, thats a matter of communication i guess | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | anyway ... | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | anything else for ftbfs ? | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | . | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | .. | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | ... | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | moving on then :) | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | [topic] arm image status (NCommander, ogra) | 15:19 |
| MootBot | New Topic: arm image status (NCommander, ogra) | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | well, desktop seems badly broken | 15:20 |
| infinity | Just a tad. | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | we get a non resize friendly filesystem since the switch to live-builder ... and jasper additionally has bugs | 15:20 |
| GrueMaster | I plan on building a desktop image from a server install today so that I can at least test the other bits. | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | i'll look into jasper asap | 15:20 |
| GrueMaster | I'm not convinced that jasper has a big issue. | 15:21 |
| GrueMaster | Since server works on the same SD card. | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | must not be big | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | but apparently it has issues | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | how long does the resize on desktop take ? | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | server took 15min for me | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | (class 4 card though) | 15:22 |
| GrueMaster | desktop took 30 minutes. | 15:22 |
| GrueMaster | I think | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | phew | 15:22 |
| GrueMaster | (I have multiple systems and don't watch that closely). | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | well, high prio to fix that :) | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | anything else about images ? | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | . | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | .. | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | ... | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | moving on | 15:23 |
| GrueMaster | I'm thinking there is a regression in the kernel. I'll test with a maverick kernel later today or tomorrow. | 15:23 |
| janimo | GrueMaster, happens on all SD cards tried? | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | (or not :) ) | 15:24 |
| janimo | I wonder if any of my partitioning changes could affect resize | 15:24 |
| GrueMaster | I get mixed results. | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | janimo, unlikely | 15:24 |
| janimo | except in the way intended of course | 15:24 |
| GrueMaster | Larger cards are more troublesome. | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | janimo, it could possibly affect the repartitioning | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | but the slowness is caused at filesystem creation | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | the inode size is to small | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | so resizing has to move way more then necessary | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | we used to use 8k for that in livecd-rootfs | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | anyway, we'll fix it :) | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | moving on for real now | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | [topic] Qa? (GrueMaster) | 15:27 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Qa? (GrueMaster) | 15:27 |
| GrueMaster | Testing this release has been very problematic (as noted earlier). | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | the date of the sprint week wasnt helping with that either | 15:28 |
| GrueMaster | I'm running into issues getting benchmarks going on btrfs. Seems natty image doesn't care for conversion. | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | well, just format an SD and copy a configured FS over | 15:28 |
| GrueMaster | system fails to mount rootfs using that method. | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | hmm, btrfs-tools installed ? | 15:29 |
| GrueMaster | I have tried several different things (including nuke & pave). | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | it puts some bits into initrd | 15:29 |
| GrueMaster | yes | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | weird | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | then it should work | 15:29 |
| GrueMaster | It is failing in initrd | 15:29 |
| GrueMaster | At any rate, it was lower priority this week vs release testing. | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | yeah, file a bug and one of us should look into it | 15:30 |
| GrueMaster | netboot install works for the most part. Some tweeking needed for the sd boot image size (10M is way too small). | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | ac100 lives with 8M :P | 15:31 |
| GrueMaster | Easily worked around though, and the rest of the install works fine. | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | our initrds are way to large nowadays imho | 15:31 |
| GrueMaster | ac100 doesn't have x-loader & u-boot in the boot partition. | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | but hey, who wouldnt want the intel drm drivers :) | 15:31 |
| GrueMaster | Need to be ~30M I would think. | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | or nouveau ... | 15:31 |
| persia | Those need to be there with the current model. | 15:32 |
| GrueMaster | They have nothing to do with boot partition size. | 15:32 |
| persia | The way that libdrm works, it needs to have *all* implementations available. | 15:32 |
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| ogra_ | MLO and u-boot are 250k together | 15:32 |
| GrueMaster | At any rate, I tested both SD & usbboot methods for netinstall on to sata USB drives. | 15:33 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: The problem is the filesystem runs out of space for whatever reason at 10M. | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:33 |
| GrueMaster | So make it bigger. | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | sure | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | i'm just ranting ... :) | 15:34 |
| GrueMaster | Server install works cleanly, which iis odd given the issues with desktop. | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | having 5M initrds is to big too :) | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | yeah, jasper should do exactly the same on both | 15:35 |
| GrueMaster | In between testing, I have been struggling to get jenkins running. I am able to get it to remotely log into the pandas and start a slave instance. Now to get it to do something usefull. | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | modulo the PPA stuff | 15:35 |
| GrueMaster | Not much else to report here. | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | awesome progress ! | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | anything else ? | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | . | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | .. | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | ... | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | moving on | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | [topic] any other business ... | 15:36 |
| MootBot | New Topic: any other business ... | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | anything ... anyone ... ? | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | doesnt look like | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | going once | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | going twice | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | ending here ... | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | #ednmeeting | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | bah | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:38. | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | thanks all | 15:39 |
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