[08:46] Is the Asia RMB this or last week? [08:47] ronin___: Fine thanks. [08:47] you? === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === fader_ is now known as fader === brendand_ is now known as brendand_n310 [15:00] #startmeeting [15:00] Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is ogra_. [15:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:00] agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110707 [15:00] is everyone here ? [15:00] * ogra_ pokes the arm team [15:01] zzzz [15:01] infinity, around ? [15:01] o/ [15:01] * ogra_ sees janimo and pokes to see if he's alive [15:02] o hai [15:02] ah, good [15:02] so only infinity is missing [15:02] likely asleep [15:02] lets get started then [15:02] [topic] standing items [15:02] New Topic: standing items [15:02] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [15:03] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [15:03] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html [15:03] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html [15:03] i moved most items to A3 that were not DONE [15:04] if you have any items that actually are DONE and just miss the paperwork, please correct :) [15:04] o/ [15:04] infinity needs to move his remaining three items too :) [15:04] I can move the usbboot wi to A3. Won't get more done until next week. [15:05] rsalveti, are you here ? seems there is an A2 item on the workitem tracker for you [15:05] netinstall testcase documentation will be added today or tomorrow. [15:05] ogra_: yup, for kernel I believe, let me check [15:05] can you move, drop, close it (whatever is appropriate) [15:06] sure, will move it for now [15:06] * ogra_ notes doko and lag also have items on the arm tracker [15:06] yep [15:06] anyway, lets see that we have that cleaned up by tomorrow [15:06] ogra_: Link [15:06] moving on [15:07] lag, above :) [15:07] the alpha-2 tracker [15:07] [topic] arm server status (NCommander, Daviey ) [15:07] New Topic: arm server status (NCommander, Daviey ) [15:07] hmm, i guess both are on vacation [15:08] we have server images thanks to tireless testing work from GrueMaster, a d-i upload from infinity to fix netboot and apw for a linux-omap4 upload ! [15:08] \o/ [15:08] that was awesome (cross)team work ! [15:09] sadly it didnt fix desktop or omap3 [15:09] anything else for server to add ? [15:09] Nope. [15:09] ogra_: did we miss the usb fix patch for omap3? [15:09] ppisati, nope, but it segfaults on boot [15:10] ogra_: DOH! [15:10] patch seems to be in [15:10] ppisati: Not sure. It has other more serious issues. [15:10] GrueMaster: ah, you mean the oneiric kernel? ok [15:10] [topic] kernel status ppisati, cooloney) [15:10] New Topic: kernel status ppisati, cooloney) [15:10] Kernel development: usual CVE fixes across different branches. [15:10] Oneiric/ti-omap4: we reached an agreement with agreen/linaro to get the TI BSP on top of a vanilla kernel, as a result a new oneiric/master-next-based kernel is in the work - see git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ppisati/ubuntu-oneiric.git ti-omap4-next. Still a WIP, kernel panics on boot ATM, do not use. [15:10] ppisati: See bug 806113 [15:10] Launchpad bug 806113 in linux (Ubuntu) "Series of segfaults early in the kernel boot process on omap." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806113 [15:10] ppisati, yes, oneiric omap [15:10] ok, i'll assign it to me [15:10] (not omap4) [15:11] for tegra: ask to orga&c :) [15:11] heh [15:11] well, i plan to move to .38 soon [15:11] with the a100 package [15:11] once i got that it will also go to oneiric [15:11] ogra_: btw, i tested the ac100, and it seems the wireless tends to loose pkts [15:11] did you notice it too? [15:12] some people do [15:12] seems hw specific [15:12] k [15:12] i have one device with crappy wlan and one where it is rock solid [15:12] same model [15:12] same parts [15:12] same revision? 10z etcetc [15:12] yep [15:12] crap [15:12] 10V [15:12] anything else for kernel ? [15:13] nope from me [15:13] . [15:13] .. [15:13] ... [15:13] moving on then [15:13] ppisati: Can you look at bug 779410 for possible race condition in the kernel? [15:13] Launchpad bug 779410 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "package initramfs-tools 0.98.8ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779410 [15:13] [topic] arm porting/ ftbfs status (NCommander, janimo) [15:13] New Topic: arm porting/ ftbfs status (NCommander, janimo) [15:13] GrueMaster, i doubt it is the kernel [15:14] * ogra_ got pinged today that json-glib has a fix in debian [15:14] thats holding up a lot other stuff, we need to get it synced [15:14] Can do. [15:15] not sure how important the other stuff on the ftbfs list is [15:15] (who uses emacs23 anyway) [15:15] Oh, it was synched 10 minutes ago. :) [15:15] apaort from that http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ looks pretty good for that state of the cycle [15:15] * janimo is curious what the fix was, so goes take a look [15:16] universe could need some love though [15:16] There is no love ein the universe? [15:17] i wonder how we could get the community more active ... PPAs would be good :P [15:17] GrueMaster, there is, but apparently not in the places i look at :/ [15:17] No, not PPAs: that just gets more stuff fixed *somewhere* that isn't useful. [15:18] for testbuilds that helps a lot [15:18] That's true, although it's sadly not used that way usually (from what I see) [15:18] its a lot less effort to just enable a PPA than to set up a local virtualization env or some weird cross env [15:19] well, thats a matter of communication i guess [15:19] anyway ... [15:19] anything else for ftbfs ? [15:19] . [15:19] .. [15:19] ... [15:19] moving on then :) [15:19] [topic] arm image status (NCommander, ogra) [15:19] New Topic: arm image status (NCommander, ogra) [15:20] well, desktop seems badly broken [15:20] Just a tad. [15:20] we get a non resize friendly filesystem since the switch to live-builder ... and jasper additionally has bugs [15:20] I plan on building a desktop image from a server install today so that I can at least test the other bits. [15:20] i'll look into jasper asap [15:21] I'm not convinced that jasper has a big issue. [15:21] Since server works on the same SD card. [15:21] must not be big [15:21] but apparently it has issues [15:21] how long does the resize on desktop take ? [15:22] server took 15min for me [15:22] (class 4 card though) [15:22] desktop took 30 minutes. [15:22] I think [15:22] phew [15:22] (I have multiple systems and don't watch that closely). [15:23] well, high prio to fix that :) [15:23] anything else about images ? [15:23] . [15:23] .. [15:23] ... [15:23] moving on [15:23] I'm thinking there is a regression in the kernel. I'll test with a maverick kernel later today or tomorrow. [15:23] GrueMaster, happens on all SD cards tried? [15:24] (or not :) ) [15:24] I wonder if any of my partitioning changes could affect resize [15:24] I get mixed results. [15:24] janimo, unlikely [15:24] except in the way intended of course [15:24] Larger cards are more troublesome. [15:24] janimo, it could possibly affect the repartitioning [15:24] but the slowness is caused at filesystem creation [15:25] the inode size is to small [15:25] so resizing has to move way more then necessary [15:26] we used to use 8k for that in livecd-rootfs [15:26] anyway, we'll fix it :) [15:26] moving on for real now [15:27] [topic] Qa? (GrueMaster) [15:27] New Topic: Qa? (GrueMaster) [15:27] Testing this release has been very problematic (as noted earlier). [15:27] yeah [15:28] the date of the sprint week wasnt helping with that either [15:28] I'm running into issues getting benchmarks going on btrfs. Seems natty image doesn't care for conversion. [15:28] well, just format an SD and copy a configured FS over [15:28] system fails to mount rootfs using that method. [15:29] hmm, btrfs-tools installed ? [15:29] I have tried several different things (including nuke & pave). [15:29] it puts some bits into initrd [15:29] yes [15:29] weird [15:29] then it should work [15:29] It is failing in initrd [15:30] At any rate, it was lower priority this week vs release testing. [15:30] yeah, file a bug and one of us should look into it [15:30] netboot install works for the most part. Some tweeking needed for the sd boot image size (10M is way too small). [15:31] ac100 lives with 8M :P [15:31] Easily worked around though, and the rest of the install works fine. [15:31] our initrds are way to large nowadays imho [15:31] ac100 doesn't have x-loader & u-boot in the boot partition. [15:31] but hey, who wouldnt want the intel drm drivers :) [15:31] Need to be ~30M I would think. [15:31] or nouveau ... [15:32] Those need to be there with the current model. [15:32] They have nothing to do with boot partition size. [15:32] The way that libdrm works, it needs to have *all* implementations available. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch [15:32] MLO and u-boot are 250k together [15:33] At any rate, I tested both SD & usbboot methods for netinstall on to sata USB drives. [15:33] ogra_: The problem is the filesystem runs out of space for whatever reason at 10M. [15:33] yeah [15:33] So make it bigger. [15:33] sure [15:34] i'm just ranting ... :) [15:34] Server install works cleanly, which iis odd given the issues with desktop. [15:34] having 5M initrds is to big too :) [15:35] yeah, jasper should do exactly the same on both [15:35] In between testing, I have been struggling to get jenkins running. I am able to get it to remotely log into the pandas and start a slave instance. Now to get it to do something usefull. [15:35] modulo the PPA stuff [15:36] Not much else to report here. [15:36] awesome progress ! [15:36] anything else ? [15:36] . [15:36] .. [15:36] ... [15:36] moving on [15:36] [topic] any other business ... [15:36] New Topic: any other business ... [15:37] anything ... anyone ... ? [15:37] doesnt look like [15:37] going once [15:38] going twice [15:38] ending here ... [15:38] #ednmeeting [15:38] bah [15:38] #endmeeting [15:38] Meeting finished at 10:38. [15:39] thanks all === JanC_ is now known as JanC === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan