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bhearsumis there a lightning package for any of the Thunderbird PPA builds?11:59
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, not at the moment12:05
chrisccoulsonthere will be one for the beta PPA, but i wasn't planning to do a lightning build for the other PPA's just yet12:05
bhearsumahhh12:16
bhearsumcool, i'm looking forward to have a working lightning again ;)12:16
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, which PPA are you using?12:18
bhearsumi'm on the Aurora one right now12:19
chrisccoulsonah, ok12:19
bhearsumusing the upstream comm-central Lightning12:19
bhearsum(which doesn't work at all)12:19
chrisccoulsoni'm wondering whether i should just build lightning from the thunderbird source tarball for our aurora and nightly builds12:19
chrisccoulsonwe use a separate source package for release builds, but we probably don't need to do that for nightly builds12:20
bhearsumyeah, it probably doesn't matter much here12:20
bhearsumi'm not sure we've figured out what's happening with Lightning upstream, though. f.e., there's no Aurora lightning yet12:21
chrisccoulsonthe only reason we use different source tarballs for release builds is because the releases are never in sync12:21
bhearsumah12:21
chrisccoulsonabout:memory is looking really cool now12:23
chrisccoulsoni wonder how i could get apport to add some of that information to bug reports12:26
chrisccoulsonthat might be useful for people who report bugs with single-sentence descriptions saying "Firefox uses too much memory"12:26
chrisccoulsonand no other details ;)12:26
bhearsumyeah, it's going to tremendous for narrowing things down12:28
bhearsumi'm so glad we've got a couple people focused on it, finally12:28
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, are the dates on https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar fixed, or is there the possibility that they will slip at all?12:40
chrisccoulsoni'm just comparing them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule12:41
chrisccoulson(in particular, our final freeze date - 29th september)12:41
bhearsumthey're fixed, except that some of us doubt we're going to ship anything on dec 20 ;)12:41
bhearsumseems like those dates are compatible, aren't they?12:42
chrisccoulsoni think so, but those are merge dates rather than release dates aren't they?12:42
bhearsumah12:42
bhearsumyes and no12:42
bhearsumfor beta/aurora they are merge days, and the release happens N days after that12:43
chrisccoulsoni'm just wondering whether to track the firefox 7 beta, or stick with the firefox 6 release after 16th august12:43
bhearsumfor release, it's the release day, and we work backwards from it12:43
bhearsumconfusing, yes12:43
chrisccoulsonah, ok12:43
chrisccoulsonthanks12:43
bhearsumnp12:43
chrisccoulsonso, it's probably relatively safe for me to carry on tracking the beta after 6.0 is released12:44
bhearsumyeah, i think so12:47
bhearsumwe are being _very_ strict about this, we really believe in the fixed dates12:48
bhearsum(...we also made a lot of noise about it and don't want to embarass ourselves by slipping ;)12:48
chrisccoulsonheh :-)12:49
* bhearsum updates that wiki page to try and clear up confusion12:51
chrisccoulsonthanks12:52
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chrisccoulsonhmmm, scons seems like magic to me13:57
chrisccoulsongive me autoconf!13:57
chrisccoulsonhmmm, perhaps i should actually try installing this: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/google-android/3289857/ubuntu-one-files-for-android-lets-you-access-photos-anywhere/13:59
Sealive-linuxHi all Where is the folder to start ->./thunderbird -ProfileManager15:14
Sealive-linuxor is thewre a direct way to start the Thunderbird Profilemanager  %u %P15:15
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chrisccoulsong'ah, no internet16:01
chrisccoulsonyay for 3g16:01
glda19hji16:03
glda19is there a way to share ligthning 1.04b xp /ubuntu16:09
glda19hi ikonia16:10
ikoniahello16:10
micahgglda19: what do you mean by share?16:13
glda19micahg, i have a dualboot xp /linux16:13
glda19and whant to read my mail in both16:13
micahgglda19: no, it's a binary extension16:13
glda19?16:13
glda19micahg, what did you mean16:15
micahglightning needs to be compiled on each platform so it cannot be shared16:15
glda19but why can i do it with 1.02b16:15
micahgorly?  I wonder why that works16:16
micahgglda19: do you have 1.02b installed as a system extension in UBuntu?16:16
glda19ik works fine16:16
glda19now make my one16:17
micahgerr, 1/0b216:17
micahg1.0b216:17
glda19yes16:17
micahgso, why not install 1.0b4 as a system extension?16:18
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, is the plan still to do a beta update today?16:42
chrisccoulsoni'm just wondering whether to upload the current build before i finish for the day16:42
bhearsumi _think_ we're pushing it out today16:43
bhearsumit's all built already, but we had a problem with one locale, not sure if we're going to hold on it16:44
chrisccoulsonah, ok. thanks16:44
bhearsumi'll let you know when i hear more16:48
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, awesome, thanks!16:51
glenn__hi17:13
glenn__micahg,17:17
glenn__is here a posibility to share ligthning17:19
micahgI answered you above17:20
glenn__micahg, you answer not17:21
chrisccoulsonglenn__, and your 2 threads on dev-apps-calendar were also answered with pretty much the same response17:21
chrisccoulson(assuming that you're the same glenn)17:21
micahg[11:18] <micahg> so, why not install 1.0b4 as a system extension?17:21
glenn__micahg, i thnik that you nothing new about ligthing17:22
glenn__chrisccoulson, why did, it work by 1.02b17:24
glenn__chrisccoulson, why did, it work by 1.b0217:24
chrisccoulsonglenn__, i've got no idea what you did, but i can assure you that you cannot share binary components between different platforms17:24
glenn__chrisccoulson, i make a new xpi17:25
chrisccoulsonit's a compiled extension, running the linux version of lightning on windows is never going to work17:25
glenn__it works17:25
chrisccoulsonso, what's the problem then?17:25
micahgif it's installed as a system extension, it should mask the one in the profile I think since the windows one in the profile isn't valid17:25
chrisccoulsonit doesn't work quite like that17:26
chrisccoulsonoh, actually, it might do, because the install.rdf has a em:targetPlatform17:27
glenn__https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=User:Ssitter/UnifiedLightning&oldid=25584517:27
glenn__i did it so becouse the only to different ffiles are dll and so files17:28
glenn__is that right ore not17:29
glenn__so quited now17:30
glenn__chrisccoulson,17:31
glenn__where are you17:32
chrisccoulsonsorry, i have work to do as well17:33
glenn__micahg,17:33
glenn__but why can't i do that by 1.b0417:34
chrisccoulsonglenn__, did you update the chrome.manifest with the new components locations?17:34
glenn__in the 1.04b17:35
glenn__or in 1.0b217:35
chrisccoulsonglenn__, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM/XPCOM_changes_in_Gecko_2.0#Platform-specific_directories17:36
chrisccoulsonyou should probably read that17:36
glenn__chrisccoulson, you think when i may a change in the manifest file it will work17:38
chrisccoulsoni've no idea, why don't you try it ;)17:38
chrisccoulsonif you haven't changed the binary-component stanza's though, then it definitely won't work17:39
glenn__where can i find the maifest fille17:43
glenn__chrisccoulson, thanx that the first person tha that give a bit  of information17:47
bhearsumchrisccoulson: we're shipping 6.0b1 tomorrow, as it turns out17:56
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, cool, thanks!17:58
glenn__bhearsum, 6.0b1 of what17:58
bhearsumFirefox17:58
glenn__ok17:58
glenn__bhearsum, have you some time for me17:58
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, will that still be the current build1 ?17:58
bhearsumchrisccoulson: so far that's the plan, yeah17:59
bhearsumglenn__: really busy right now, actually17:59
chrisccoulsonexcellent, thanks17:59
glenn__bhearsum,17:59
* bhearsum just found out that we're chemspilling 3.6.19/5.0.1 for a bloody Mac 10.7 problem17:59
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, is that just for a mac problem, or is there anything interesting for us there?18:00
glenn__chrisccoulson, whe can i find the chrome.manifest18:00
bhearsumchrisccoulson: we're only shipping Mac builds, so nothing you need to worry about18:00
chrisccoulsonglenn__, i'm pretty busy too ;)18:00
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, ok, that's a relief :)18:01
glenn__ok18:01
bhearsumglenn__: try #introduction on irc.mozilla.org18:01
glenn__bhearsum, what is that18:02
glenn__what is introduction channel on mozilla18:05
kbrosnan#introduction18:06
kbrosnanehhe18:06
kbrosnanplace to ask devish questions18:06
ejat!ping asac18:06
ubot2Factoid 'ping asac' not found18:06
glenn__devish ?18:11
chrisccoulsonlol @ comments 2 and 3 on bug 80105919:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 801059 in firefox "package firefox 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80105919:19
chrisccoulsonw00t, new aurora builds are published now20:01
BUGabundoevening20:29
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BUGabundowhere's fta?22:43
BUGabundohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/639783/22:43
micahgcool, http://mzl.la/pHmTgQ, memory usage in Firefox 7 down 30%22:58
micahgand hopefully we can ship with that version :)22:58

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