[11:59] <bhearsum> is there a lightning package for any of the Thunderbird PPA builds?
[12:05] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, not at the moment
[12:05] <chrisccoulson> there will be one for the beta PPA, but i wasn't planning to do a lightning build for the other PPA's just yet
[12:16] <bhearsum> ahhh
[12:16] <bhearsum> cool, i'm looking forward to have a working lightning again ;)
[12:18] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, which PPA are you using?
[12:19] <bhearsum> i'm on the Aurora one right now
[12:19] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok
[12:19] <bhearsum> using the upstream comm-central Lightning
[12:19] <bhearsum> (which doesn't work at all)
[12:19] <chrisccoulson> i'm wondering whether i should just build lightning from the thunderbird source tarball for our aurora and nightly builds
[12:20] <chrisccoulson> we use a separate source package for release builds, but we probably don't need to do that for nightly builds
[12:20] <bhearsum> yeah, it probably doesn't matter much here
[12:21] <bhearsum> i'm not sure we've figured out what's happening with Lightning upstream, though. f.e., there's no Aurora lightning yet
[12:21] <chrisccoulson> the only reason we use different source tarballs for release builds is because the releases are never in sync
[12:21] <bhearsum> ah
[12:23] <chrisccoulson> about:memory is looking really cool now
[12:26] <chrisccoulson> i wonder how i could get apport to add some of that information to bug reports
[12:26] <chrisccoulson> that might be useful for people who report bugs with single-sentence descriptions saying "Firefox uses too much memory"
[12:26] <chrisccoulson> and no other details ;)
[12:28] <bhearsum> yeah, it's going to tremendous for narrowing things down
[12:28] <bhearsum> i'm so glad we've got a couple people focused on it, finally
[12:40] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, are the dates on https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar fixed, or is there the possibility that they will slip at all?
[12:41] <chrisccoulson> i'm just comparing them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[12:41] <chrisccoulson> (in particular, our final freeze date - 29th september)
[12:41] <bhearsum> they're fixed, except that some of us doubt we're going to ship anything on dec 20 ;)
[12:42] <bhearsum> seems like those dates are compatible, aren't they?
[12:42] <chrisccoulson> i think so, but those are merge dates rather than release dates aren't they?
[12:42] <bhearsum> ah
[12:42] <bhearsum> yes and no
[12:43] <bhearsum> for beta/aurora they are merge days, and the release happens N days after that
[12:43] <chrisccoulson> i'm just wondering whether to track the firefox 7 beta, or stick with the firefox 6 release after 16th august
[12:43] <bhearsum> for release, it's the release day, and we work backwards from it
[12:43] <bhearsum> confusing, yes
[12:43] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok
[12:43] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[12:43] <bhearsum> np
[12:44] <chrisccoulson> so, it's probably relatively safe for me to carry on tracking the beta after 6.0 is released
[12:47] <bhearsum> yeah, i think so
[12:48] <bhearsum> we are being _very_ strict about this, we really believe in the fixed dates
[12:48] <bhearsum> (...we also made a lot of noise about it and don't want to embarass ourselves by slipping ;)
[12:49] <chrisccoulson> heh :-)
[12:51]  * bhearsum updates that wiki page to try and clear up confusion
[12:52] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[13:57] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, scons seems like magic to me
[13:57] <chrisccoulson> give me autoconf!
[13:59] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, perhaps i should actually try installing this: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/google-android/3289857/ubuntu-one-files-for-android-lets-you-access-photos-anywhere/
[15:14] <Sealive-linux> Hi all Where is the folder to start ->./thunderbird -ProfileManager
[15:15] <Sealive-linux> or is thewre a direct way to start the Thunderbird Profilemanager  %u %P
[16:01] <chrisccoulson> g'ah, no internet
[16:01] <chrisccoulson> yay for 3g
[16:03] <glda19> hji
[16:09] <glda19> is there a way to share ligthning 1.04b xp /ubuntu
[16:10] <glda19> hi ikonia
[16:10] <ikonia> hello
[16:13] <micahg> glda19: what do you mean by share?
[16:13] <glda19> micahg, i have a dualboot xp /linux
[16:13] <glda19> and whant to read my mail in both
[16:13] <micahg> glda19: no, it's a binary extension
[16:13] <glda19> ?
[16:15] <glda19> micahg, what did you mean
[16:15] <micahg> lightning needs to be compiled on each platform so it cannot be shared
[16:15] <glda19> but why can i do it with 1.02b
[16:16] <micahg> orly?  I wonder why that works
[16:16] <micahg> glda19: do you have 1.02b installed as a system extension in UBuntu?
[16:16] <glda19> ik works fine
[16:17] <glda19> now make my one
[16:17] <micahg> err, 1/0b2
[16:17] <micahg> 1.0b2
[16:17] <glda19> yes
[16:18] <micahg> so, why not install 1.0b4 as a system extension?
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, is the plan still to do a beta update today?
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> i'm just wondering whether to upload the current build before i finish for the day
[16:43] <bhearsum> i _think_ we're pushing it out today
[16:44] <bhearsum> it's all built already, but we had a problem with one locale, not sure if we're going to hold on it
[16:44] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok. thanks
[16:48] <bhearsum> i'll let you know when i hear more
[16:51] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, awesome, thanks!
[17:13] <glenn__> hi
[17:17] <glenn__> micahg,
[17:19] <glenn__> is here a posibility to share ligthning
[17:20] <micahg> I answered you above
[17:21] <glenn__> micahg, you answer not
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> glenn__, and your 2 threads on dev-apps-calendar were also answered with pretty much the same response
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> (assuming that you're the same glenn)
[17:21] <micahg> [11:18] <micahg> so, why not install 1.0b4 as a system extension?
[17:22] <glenn__> micahg, i thnik that you nothing new about ligthing
[17:24] <glenn__> chrisccoulson, why did, it work by 1.02b
[17:24] <glenn__> chrisccoulson, why did, it work by 1.b02
[17:24] <chrisccoulson> glenn__, i've got no idea what you did, but i can assure you that you cannot share binary components between different platforms
[17:25] <glenn__> chrisccoulson, i make a new xpi
[17:25] <chrisccoulson> it's a compiled extension, running the linux version of lightning on windows is never going to work
[17:25] <glenn__> it works
[17:25] <chrisccoulson> so, what's the problem then?
[17:25] <micahg> if it's installed as a system extension, it should mask the one in the profile I think since the windows one in the profile isn't valid
[17:26] <chrisccoulson> it doesn't work quite like that
[17:27] <chrisccoulson> oh, actually, it might do, because the install.rdf has a em:targetPlatform
[17:27] <glenn__> https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=User:Ssitter/UnifiedLightning&oldid=255845
[17:28] <glenn__> i did it so becouse the only to different ffiles are dll and so files
[17:29] <glenn__> is that right ore not
[17:30] <glenn__> so quited now
[17:31] <glenn__> chrisccoulson,
[17:32] <glenn__> where are you
[17:33] <chrisccoulson> sorry, i have work to do as well
[17:33] <glenn__> micahg,
[17:34] <glenn__> but why can't i do that by 1.b04
[17:34] <chrisccoulson> glenn__, did you update the chrome.manifest with the new components locations?
[17:35] <glenn__> in the 1.04b
[17:35] <glenn__> or in 1.0b2
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> glenn__, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM/XPCOM_changes_in_Gecko_2.0#Platform-specific_directories
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> you should probably read that
[17:38] <glenn__> chrisccoulson, you think when i may a change in the manifest file it will work
[17:38] <chrisccoulson> i've no idea, why don't you try it ;)
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> if you haven't changed the binary-component stanza's though, then it definitely won't work
[17:43] <glenn__> where can i find the maifest fille
[17:47] <glenn__> chrisccoulson, thanx that the first person tha that give a bit  of information
[17:56] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: we're shipping 6.0b1 tomorrow, as it turns out
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, cool, thanks!
[17:58] <glenn__> bhearsum, 6.0b1 of what
[17:58] <bhearsum> Firefox
[17:58] <glenn__> ok
[17:58] <glenn__> bhearsum, have you some time for me
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, will that still be the current build1 ?
[17:59] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: so far that's the plan, yeah
[17:59] <bhearsum> glenn__: really busy right now, actually
[17:59] <chrisccoulson> excellent, thanks
[17:59] <glenn__> bhearsum,
[17:59]  * bhearsum just found out that we're chemspilling 3.6.19/5.0.1 for a bloody Mac 10.7 problem
[18:00] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, is that just for a mac problem, or is there anything interesting for us there?
[18:00] <glenn__> chrisccoulson, whe can i find the chrome.manifest
[18:00] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: we're only shipping Mac builds, so nothing you need to worry about
[18:00] <chrisccoulson> glenn__, i'm pretty busy too ;)
[18:01] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, ok, that's a relief :)
[18:01] <glenn__> ok
[18:01] <bhearsum> glenn__: try #introduction on irc.mozilla.org
[18:02] <glenn__> bhearsum, what is that
[18:05] <glenn__> what is introduction channel on mozilla
[18:06] <kbrosnan> #introduction
[18:06] <kbrosnan> ehhe
[18:06] <kbrosnan> place to ask devish questions
[18:06] <ejat> !ping asac
[18:06] <ubot2> Factoid 'ping asac' not found
[18:11] <glenn__> devish ?
[19:19] <chrisccoulson> lol @ comments 2 and 3 on bug 801059
[19:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 801059 in firefox "package firefox 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801059
[20:01] <chrisccoulson> w00t, new aurora builds are published now
[20:29] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:43] <BUGabundo> where's fta?
[22:43] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/639783/
[22:58] <micahg> cool, http://mzl.la/pHmTgQ, memory usage in Firefox 7 down 30%
[22:58] <micahg> and hopefully we can ship with that version :)