[00:02] <MarkDude> Hella ghetto
[00:24] <jyo> ls
[00:24] <jyo> bleh
[00:41] <rww> my headache is back in force. guess i'm not going to SF ;(
[01:16] <pleia2> rww: ouch, hope you feel better!
[02:14] <MarkDude> aaditya, ping
[02:42] <MarkDude> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dFkzbnZoVXVDMkJ1dmlXbjh0Q09MS1E6MQ&ndplr=1#gid=0
[02:43] <rww> is there a Google page somewhere verifying that that's legitimate?
[02:53] <MarkDude> Vic Gundotra posted it
[02:53] <MarkDude> He is pretty legit
[02:54] <MarkDude> this is where + announcements come from
[02:54] <MarkDude> Engineering Director of Google+ :)
[02:54] <MarkDude> https://plus.google.com/107117483540235115863/posts?tab=XX
[02:55] <MarkDude> invites are sorta open
[02:55] <MarkDude> we get to invite a few
[03:08] <MarkDude> YokoZar, you have gmail adress for +1 invite?
[03:09] <YokoZar> MarkDude: I already got invited but when I went last it was sort of uninvited
[03:09] <YokoZar> can I actually sign up now?
[03:09] <MarkDude> No- but we are able to send a few invites
[03:10] <akk> I don't think invites mean anything at all.
[03:10] <MarkDude> They need to be resent for the moment
[03:10] <akk> Either it lets people in, or it doesn't.
[03:10] <MarkDude> Look at Vics post
[03:10] <MarkDude> well they did not specify number
[03:11] <MarkDude> looks like we need to choose a few- I resent to 5 people I had invited
[03:12] <MarkDude> people that resend now get invite sent, all the rest will get to respond after it is fully open- he explained partially why
[03:13] <MarkDude> We continue to throttle invites, so please don't mass invite folks as it won't work. If you invite a handful of your most important friends and family you're much more likely to get these folks into our system.
[03:13] <MarkDude> Still some chance to it- like lottery :)
[03:13] <MarkDude> aaditya, pingy you invited person I wanted to check if this actually works
[03:13] <MarkDude> :)
[03:14] <akk> So MarkDude, now that I'm finally in, how do I find people like you to add?
[03:14] <akk> I guess I just have to search for people individually by name, there's no way of saying "now that I've found MarkDude, I can find the other ubunteros from his profile" ?
[03:15] <MarkDude> Once you get a few people added- the suggested folks become slightly relelvant
[03:15] <akk> oh, wait, when I search I can see your profile and get to other people's from there
[03:15] <MarkDude> took it a bit to figure out some of my circles
[03:15] <akk> but I couldn't do that for people who were already in my circles
[03:15] <MarkDude> Yep
[03:15] <akk> couldn't find any way to see their profiles
[03:16] <philipballew> noone invited me ...
[03:16] <MarkDude> I have a fair amount of famous techies-  as well as Linux, and other geeks
[03:16] <akk> Do people get a notice when someone adds them, so they can add back (if they want to)?
[03:17] <philipballew> so Linus invited you MarkDude ?
[03:17] <MarkDude> Nope
[03:18] <MarkDude> Chris W did - he is not saying how he got invite last month
[03:18] <MarkDude> nick sexycatsinhats
[03:18] <MarkDude> akk, yes they do
[03:19] <MarkDude> I put all the people in a follow list- and see what they share
[03:19] <rww> hrm, maybe I should get my mom on Google+ then, if it's less closed right now
[03:19] <MarkDude> I have taken a few off after I see what they post
[03:19] <rww> I blocked and reported someone for the first time today.
[03:19] <MarkDude> rww- just for the video feature- to show cat videos
[03:19] <sn9> rww: who?
[03:19] <MarkDude> or in your case turtles
[03:20]  * MarkDude 's case penguins
[03:20] <rww> http://www.google.com/intl/en_uk/+/policy/content.html is pretty excellent, btw
[03:20] <rww> sn9: an Ubuntu community member who shall remain nameless
[03:20] <sn9> in california?
[03:21] <rww> no
[03:21] <sn9> ok
[03:22] <akk> People don't know what circle I'm adding them to, right?
[03:22] <rww> akk: correct
[03:22] <rww> just that you added them to one
[03:22] <MarkDude> akk I just saw you added me
[03:23] <MarkDude> I dont know where tho
[03:23]  * MarkDude made post about that afew days ago- after adding Mike arrington- I put him in D-Bag circle
[03:25] <MarkDude> then wondered about what circle people put me in- most common answer was geek, followed by Linux, Ubuntu, Fedora, and my favorite, people that wear penguin suits while giving talks :)
[03:26]  * MarkDude suggests Gina Trapani and JEff Jarvis- since their stuff is very relvant to google +
[03:26] <MarkDude> philipballew, you want invite?
[03:26] <philipballew> yeah, id love one
[03:26] <philipballew> maybe
[03:27] <philipballew> i dont know much about it but i would like one
[03:28] <MarkDude> You need a gmail-
[03:28] <philipballew> philipballew@gmail.com
[03:28] <MarkDude> and maybe your google profile set up- I think those of us that set up profiles last year were signing up in advance and did not know
[03:29] <philipballew> yeah. I had friends who set those up a few months back
[03:29] <philipballew> I wonder if this will do better then google buzz
[03:31] <MarkDude> Yes
[03:31]  * MarkDude will bet 1 US dollar on that
[03:31] <MarkDude> philipballew, you are invited
[03:31] <MarkDude> check mail
[03:31] <MarkDude> I mean they got apple folks on it- hired away
[03:32] <rww> I'm waiting for Google Buzz to get integrated into Google+ properly, personally
[03:32] <philipballew> google buzz wasnt very popular
[03:37] <philipballew> MarkDude, haha, no email. perhaps google isn't inviting anyone else\
[03:40] <MarkDude> I think they hit the number quickly
[03:40] <MarkDude> they wanted to double
[03:40] <MarkDude> and aaditya most likely lost a chance for the moment :(
[03:40] <MarkDude> Damn you dragon, where are you ? :D
[03:41] <philipballew> im pretty happy with twitter now
[03:42] <MarkDude> philipballew, then you will like part of this- it has a similar aspect, but better
[03:43] <philipballew> MarkDude, how so?
[03:43] <akk> It seems much more like facebook than twitter, right now
[03:44] <MarkDude> the circle thing
[03:44] <MarkDude> I have a following list
[03:44] <MarkDude> of people that works out to very similar to Twitter
[03:45] <MarkDude> for friends and stuff it is more like FB
[03:45] <philipballew> so its a mix i guess
[03:54] <MarkDude> For sure. Not only that- it will have open API
[03:55] <MarkDude> so it can have extensions
[03:55] <MarkDude> they are not doin gthat yet- since they are still trying different backends
[03:57] <MarkDude> Yay, my sister is on here- her invite worked
[03:57] <MarkDude> I really think it is because she is kinda near the Vally
[03:57] <MarkDude> valley
[03:57] <rww> I'm assuming that my initial guess of "San Fernando" is wrong and you mean Silicon.
[04:52] <rww> MarkDude: so I figure you'll know. What was this Facebook announcement thing?
[05:03] <MarkDude> It was crap. It should have been a blogpost
[05:03] <MarkDude> Mark Z taught us math, for like 20 minutes
[05:03] <pleia2> the skype integration for voice chat?
[05:03]  * MarkDude was part of google hangout with chris Pirillo on it
[05:04] <MarkDude> YEp, no workie for Linux
[05:04]  * MarkDude says eff Mark Z in neck
[05:04] <MarkDude> in neck
[05:04] <MarkDude> :)
[05:04] <rww> oh, so nothing I care about then
[05:04] <pleia2> skype is kinda past it's prime anyway
[05:04] <pleia2> its
[05:04] <MarkDude> it was like welcom to 2007
[05:10] <philipballew> MarkDude, pleia2 rww skype for linux could fade out now anyway to to msofts new ownership to
[05:11] <MarkDude> Zonker posted about that subject, it was pretty good
[05:11] <rww> not that it means much, but "Microsoft will continue to invest in and support Skype clients on non-Microsoft platforms" ~ Microsoft press release
[05:12] <philipballew> they also have said "we love open source" rww
[05:14] <rww> And? Some of Microsoft does love Open Source. Some of them even love Free Software :)
[05:15] <philipballew> yet they abuse the foss industry
[05:17] <rww> I'd love to see statistics on how many Free Software developers fix Windows installations for their day job :)
[05:18] <rww> and personally, I'm a fan of good things (like Linux) having competition. I'm not a fan of things like patents, but I think abuse of software patents is ultimately the government's fault for creating them.
[05:19] <philipballew> I have had jobs fixing windows machines. how should the patent system be changed?
[05:20] <rww> To focus narrowly, software patents shouldn't be issued and current software patents should be rescinded.
[05:21] <philipballew> tell that to apple...
[05:21] <rww> (assumption: we're talking about the USA here :)
[05:21] <rww> philipballew: and Redhat, and Google, and all the other companies that own them.
[05:22] <philipballew> for sure. redhat is interesting. not always sure how to feel about them
[05:24] <philipballew> google as well. they are big on free software. somewhat and other ways not
[05:41] <MarkDude> https://plus.google.com/109381089725745119133/posts Joe "Zonker" Brockmeier commenting about MS patents
[05:41] <MarkDude> in reacting to Matt Asay
[07:30] <philipballew> google+ opened up apperently
[20:28] <pleia2> I need an "ignore MarkDude's hangouts" button on g+
[20:28] <pleia2> ;)
[20:29] <nigelb> haha
[20:30] <MarkDude> :)
[20:31] <MarkDude> Well I am seeing if it works at Starbucks - it does
[20:34] <MarkDude> and also if it works while people are at work- not so much
[20:43] <MarkDude> besides, I gotta be social