[00:00] <jacobite> hello all just want to ask a q ive instaled 10.04 and did all the updates do you know if unreal tournament will run ??? ty
[00:00] <qin> K350: Both are
[00:00] <fishscene> I like the sound of that. Although I have no idea how to make a script to do that. I'm quite the script-noob. Do you know of any resources that might help me create the script?
[00:02] <edbian> fishscene: Make a new blank text document.  Put #!/bin/bash on the first line and put echo 'Hello World' on the second line.  Then chmod +x it and ./scriptName.sh  it
[00:02] <K350> qin: uhm, I installed fbi..but don' t know if I used it right
[00:04] <thewanderer1> fishscene: actually, it's not much more than edbian said... you'll need to put together a script that echoes a text file, line by line, to some path. you might be thinking where to put it... add it to autostart so that it's called when GNOME loads
[00:05] <uRock> why is it that my wireless works fine when I boot from USB, but after installing 10.04 to the HDD, the system sees but cannot connect to router?
[00:05] <K350> 2/c
[00:06] <Reign_> Good evening. My Ubuntu is behaving like windows with a virus. I need to know how to determine what's wrong. I don't know how to maintain Linux.
[00:06] <bazhang> Reign_, what version of ubuntu
[00:06] <edbian> Reign_: Can you be more specific? What is virus like?
[00:07] <Reign_> This time around, it restarted itself. Than it crashed giving this mix of gray/white/black maybe screen
[00:07] <brightspark> youtube quit working in firefox today- any ideas why?
[00:07] <Reign_> I had turn it off with the button
[00:07] <uRock> brightspark, use flashaid?
[00:07] <Reign_> It tends to do this right after being turned on.
[00:08] <bazhang> Reign_, please answer my question
[00:08] <Reign_> I answered the question as specific as I could. Please specify what you're looking for.
[00:09] <bazhang> Reign_, version
[00:09] <edbian> Reign_: You answered my question, not his :P
[00:09] <Reign_> 2.32.1
[00:09] <bazhang> Reign_, thats ubuntu ultimate?
[00:10] <szal> there is no such Ubuntu version, that is more likely the Gnome version
[00:10] <Reign_> And that's Gnome, not Ubuntu. I'm really beginning to hate this program. Where do I look for it?
[00:10] <Reign_> Ubuntu 11.04
[00:10] <bazhang> Reign_, this is a wubi install then?
[00:10] <Reign_> A what?
[00:11] <bazhang> Reign_, ubuntu installed from within windows
[00:11] <Reign_> No. No windows on that harddrive. it was blank. I downloaded it and burned it using windows.
[00:11] <brightspark> uRock, hmm- i already have flash installed and it worked up until today- no update or anything
[00:12] <bazhang> Reign_, how full is your home folder
[00:12] <Reign_> Please translate that.
[00:12] <brightspark> ought I to remove my existing flash and let flash-aid take care of it?
[00:12] <bazhang> Reign_, how much hdd space do you have remaining on that installation of ubuntu
[00:12] <Reign_> On the Hard drive? Or somewhere else?
[00:13] <uRock> maybe you need an update
[00:13] <Reign_> According to my Home Folder, I have 550.4 GB free
[00:13] <bazhang> Reign_, the hdd, the install of ubuntu
[00:13] <uRock> why is it that my wireless works fine when I boot from USB, but after installing 10.04 to the HDD, the system sees but cannot connect to router? Any thoughts?
[00:13] <bazhang> uRock, live usb?
[00:13] <szal> Reign_: 'df -h' to pastebin please
[00:13] <uRock> si
[00:13] <szal> !paste | Reign_
[00:13] <uRock> yes
[00:14] <bazhang> uRock, install the drivers then
[00:14] <brightspark> uRock, aptitude sees no available updates
[00:14] <Reign_> I'm sorry, I was just told a number of things that I do not understand. I cannot C&P from Linux since I'm using another computer.
[00:14] <envisean> has anyone here installed ubuntu server on a EMC2 centera system before?
[00:15] <uRock> bazhang, the odd part is that the LiveUSB works fine, but the actaul install doesn't
[00:15] <JOHNBAUER67> http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/images/c/c0/18952-truth-about-9-11-10-facts-you-need-know-sick-ass-shot.jpg
[00:15] <szal> Reign_: then copy that command and its output to a text file & transfer to the other machine the old-fashioned way if there is no other way to do it, i.e. by USB pendrive or something
[00:15] <JOHNBAUER67> http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/images/c/c0/18952-truth-about-9-11-10-facts-you-need-know-sick-ass-shot.jpg
[00:15] <brightspark> uRock, gparted is the same way- it shows up live but not installed
[00:16] <uRock> I guess it is a case of rearrange the house to get cat5 going
[00:16] <Reign_> szal, since I have no idea what you're talking about, I have no way of doing that. Please explain what it is that I need to do. TY
[00:16] <uRock> brightspark, canonical won't have an update for flash right away, which is why I recommend flashaid
[00:17] <Redrum_412> hello
[00:17] <Redrum_412> i have a question
[00:17] <brightspark> okay.  just wanted to make sure i understood it all correctly
[00:17] <Reign_> Ask your question, Redrum. They're techs, not psychics. :)
[00:17] <Redrum_412> im just starting to use Xchat and I wanted to connect to Irc.synergy-games.net how do i do that?
[00:17] <Redrum_412> synergy-games.com i mean
[00:18] <szal> Reign_: open terminal, enter command, select command and output, copy, paste into text editor, save as text file, copy text file to USB pen, open on other computer, copy content, paste into pastebin, give us the URL to the paste
[00:18] <Reign_> Since that is a list of commands that does not actually anything, I will get going. I'm just going to get mad and won't accomplish anything. Have a good night.
[00:18] <Redrum_412> I added Synergy-games to the network list
[00:19] <szal> *head -> desk*
[00:20] <bazhang> Redrum_412, try in #xchat
[00:20] <brightspark> uRock, the problem was not fixed even after restarting firefox.  other suggestions?
[00:21] <brightspark> Redrum_412, go to irc and hit connect, then select it.
[00:22] <buzy> .quit
[00:23] <jtannenbaum> how would I make a foo-on.png for each foo.png in my current directory in terminal?
[00:23] <jtannenbaum> that is the same image as the foo.png
[00:24] <szal> jtannenbaum: huh?
[00:24] <jtannenbaum> like, cp *.png *-on.png
[00:25] <jrib> jtannenbaum: use a for loop
[00:26] <jtannenbaum> not sure how I'd get the name without the .png part
[00:27] <qin> jtannenbaum: for i in *; do
[00:27] <jtannenbaum> this wouldn't work though: for file in *.png; do cp ${file} ${file}-on done
[00:28] <EdSquareCat>  
[00:28] <jrib> jtannenbaum: examples for you to read: f=foo.png; echo $f; echo ${f%.png}; echo ${f%.png}-no.png
[00:28] <jtannenbaum> thanks
[00:29] <brightspark> youtube quit working in firefox today- any ideas why?
[00:29] <alexleon> ppl
[00:29] <alexleon> i think my fash has problems cuz i cant see youtube videos
[00:29] <harfooz> brightspark -- same here.
[00:29] <alexleon> how do i unistall it
[00:29] <alexleon> ?
[00:29] <EdSquareCat> I have a small, albeit annoying problem with my mouse wheel.  When my install was fresh my mouse wheel worked, and then at some point I believe I did something to Gnome or Compiz that disabled the scroll wheel.  It appears that it works in safe graphics mode.  I'm running  Natty.
[00:30] <alexleon> i wanna install it again
[00:30] <EdSquareCat> Anyone have any ideas?
[00:30] <harfooz> I checked my flash player elsewhere, and flash is playing. Just not on YouTube.
[00:30] <stevr1it> salve metacity mi da dei problemi, mi sono scomparse la x di chiusura delle finestre, ho provato a reinstallarlo ma nulla da fare, come posso ripristinarle?
[00:30] <alexleon> harfooz me too :O
[00:30] <TrevInc> !it
[00:30] <OerHeks> flash working fine here
[00:31] <itaylor57> youtube works fine for me in chromium
[00:31] <alexleon> why i cant see youtube videos!!!!!
[00:31] <alexleon> omg omg
[00:31] <harfooz> alexleon, I feel your pain! tube is the family entertainment these days, heh.
[00:31] <alexleon> yeh :(
[00:32] <KM0201> alexleon: i'm in another channel and someone is complaining about that.. did you do an update that caused this?
[00:32] <fishscene> sorry about the delay.
[00:32] <OerHeks> restart your browser if youtube doen't start
[00:32] <alexleon> km0201 no i just installed an addon
[00:32] <alexleon> adblock
[00:33] <alexleon> then it stoped working
[00:33] <KM0201> alexleon: disable adblock on youtube... thats a common issue.
[00:33] <alexleon> and its just youtube cuz
[00:33] <harfooz> I tried disabling adblock and still yt videos aren't playing.
[00:33] <KM0201> alexleon: disable adblock on youtube.
[00:33] <alexleon> i can play megavideo
[00:33] <KM0201> ..
[00:33] <alexleon> i did
[00:33] <xangua> alexleon: make sure you did not bloc the flashplayer with adblock ...
[00:33] <fishscene> I created the script as best as I could understand, and when I run the script in terminal, I get the following: ./smb.sh: line 2: smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn/user/fishscene: No such file or directory. (And yes, the directory DOES exist and I have full permissions on it)
[00:33] <alexleon> still cant watch videos
[00:33] <bazhang> !enter | alexleon
[00:33] <alexleon> ok bot
[00:34] <harfooz> Going to try to play a yt video using chromium. brb with a report.
[00:34] <KM0201> alexleon: did you restart firefox, after disabling adblock on youtube, adn did you disable it on the whole youtube.com domain?
[00:34] <alexleon> mm i restarted my pc
[00:34] <fishscene> This is my script: #!/bin/bash
[00:34] <fishscene> smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn/user/$LOGNAME
[00:34] <alexleon> im gonna restart firefox with adblock disabled brb
[00:35] <brightspark> chromium worked for me
[00:35] <alexleon> still cant watch videos
[00:35] <KM0201> brightspark: chromium is working or me as well, but it's working ok in firefox for me also.. but it does look weird (none of the previews work, but when i click on a video it plays fine)
[00:36] <harfooz> chromium is giving me a message at yt that says "The Flash plug-in was blocked because it is out of date."
[00:36] <Weons> Anyone who knows what might cause the mouse curser in a fullscreen wine application to flicker to the bottom right corner from time to time uppon mouse click?
[00:36] <mun> hi
[00:36] <mun> my cairo-clock opens at startup, but it's not listed under "Startup applications". how do i find out which script opens it at startup?
[00:36] <harfooz> Did flash do some big upgrade that is breaking?
[00:36] <alexleon> i think so
[00:37] <alexleon> flash did something o.O
[00:37] <harfooz> But my pandora is playing fine using flash.
[00:38] <carbon_> how do find what file is /dev is the usb device
[00:38] <carbon_> I just plugged in
[00:38] <carbon_> I tried sudo lsusb -vv
[00:38] <alexleon>  maybe u should get pandora mm whats better than firefox?
[00:38] <carbon_> lynx    ;
[00:39] <alexleon> i mean i should get pandora
[00:41] <itaylor57> well my flash works because I use a 64bit ppa
[00:41] <bsmith093> my backup drive fell off a desk, now i can hear it trying to spin up, but failing. am I completely screwed? ps nothing sees it, not even the bios
[00:42] <rww> bsmith093: sounds like it
[00:42] <alexleon> im using 64 bit
[00:42] <alexleon> its olny in youtube
[00:42] <bsmith093> does pro data recovery work, is it wirth it?
[00:42] <carbon_> bsmith093:  wasn't really a back up if you only had one copy eh
[00:42] <harfooz> alexleon, agreed -- only youtube is not playing video.
[00:43] <bsmith093> actually its a merged backup, slowly growing in size of everything i collect in the home/user folder, recursively
[00:43] <alexleon> weird
[00:44] <carbon_> bsmith093:  was it in an enclosure now you pulled it out and connected it to a sata port in side the puter.  how about on another computer?
[00:44] <itaylor57> alexleon, http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu
[00:45] <bsmith093> carbon_: exactly, yes
[00:45] <dbz2021> im trying to burn the iso image on a dvd from the ubuntu i downloaded(698 Mb) and i cant find the iso file to burn from,does anyone know where it is or what to do cause im at a loss.
[00:45] <carbon_> alexleon:  didn't adobe just update flash a gain   did you update it ?   sorry,  don't really know what you were talking about tbefore though
[00:45] <alexleon> itaylor57 what is that?
[00:46] <itaylor57> alexleon, the flash ppa I use
[00:46] <harfooz> alexleon, I've posted a note asking for some help in the forum.
[00:46] <alexleon> carbon i didnt do anything it just stoped working
[00:47] <alexleon> harfooz ok :) yo did u do something before your youtube stoped working?
[00:47] <harfooz> I'm sure I ran a system updater this morning, but didn't look to see what got updated.
[00:48] <carbon_> bsmith093: tough on man.  You can try the frezzer trick.   freeze the drive, ( like in the freezer )  pull it out then quickly get in on transfering.  sometimes solders break.  I only had it work once though.  Rare change.  also wrap it in paper towel for the condensation.   just a thought.   or a data recovery place.   maybe get another EXACT pcb for the drive.  but good luck there
[00:48] <harfooz> Since flash is playing elsewhere, I'm beginning to think this is a youtube flash specification thing. Wondering if youtube changed the specs they require.
[00:48] <carbon_> phew my soealling bad tonight  lol
[00:49] <dbz2021> im trying to burn the iso image on a dvd from the ubuntu i downloaded(698 Mb) and i cant find the iso file to burn from,does anyone know where it is or what to do cause im at a loss.
[00:49] <alexleon> idk
[00:49] <carbon_> yeah   try reinstalling flash and your browser
[00:50] <alexleon> itaylor57 can u use youtube on ubuntu nd firefox?
[00:51] <itaylor57> alexleon, yes firefox works for me
[00:51] <FluttershyFan> hey this is a video I took from my phone I recorded and showed all the weird things thats happening in ubuntu to me, since im on my phone and I really dont wanna type it all out on my phone bcuz thats all I got to be in this irc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iJTkXuaOxY
[00:51] <alexleon> itaylor57 what do i have to do to get ur flash? :)
[00:51] <carbon_> i think  had an issue today to.  I updated to quickly to know if it was an issue though.  my desktop at woks not updated though.  but that would be a tomorrow test
[00:51] <wildbat> hmm ~ anyone use sshfs?  it seem nautilus can't delete non-empty directories inside a sshfs ~ any clue/ fix?
[00:52] <btechie> dbz2021: right click on the download in your download list in your brower and you should be able to open the file location
[00:52] <brightspark> dbz2021, $ find / -name *.iso
[00:53] <carbon_> so anyways.  I need some help  :)   I need to see what file in /dev this usb gps is to work with gspd.  anyone know how to see associated hardware to files in /dev ?
[00:54] <qin> wildbat: Is there any permission problem, rm -r /directory/you/want/to/remove
[00:54] <fishscene> If I have a launcher with command= "smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn/user" and it opens up a network share, What interpreter is it using to process this? If I put "sh smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn/user", the launcher fails if sh is the interpreter.
[00:54] <wildbat> qin:  i know ~ rm -rf  but why GUI failed :<
[00:55] <qin> fishscene: #!/bin/sh ?
[00:55] <qin> wildbat: Did it work in terminal?
[00:55] <fishscene> qin, is that the same thing as "sh smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn/user"?
[00:55] <wildbat> qin:  yup
[00:55] <jrib> fishscene: no interpreter....  Maybe you are looking for something like « gvfs-open »?
i allready opend the rar file and extracted it to a folder and went through the files and there is no .iso file
[00:55] <harfooz> alexleon, well I've done about all I can do on this yt problem. Good luck with getting it solved (to all of us!). Look in the multimedia forums for my post there. Maybe there will be a solution soon.
[00:56] <fishscene> ok just a sec, I'll look into that
[00:56] <wildbat> qin: but when i did in nautilus ~ it said Operation not permitted :<
[00:56] <alexleon> ok harfooz
only a  disc image file
[00:56] <thewanderer1> jrib, he actually wants to have a launcher generated at login time but doesn't know how to get about to doing that
[00:56] <fishscene> Holy cow! Almost there jrib! It opens my folder, then immediately jumps up one level :S
[00:57] <fishscene> I'll look more into that command.
[00:57] <brightspark> what is the name of the disc image file? that is generally an iso.
[00:57] <jrib> fishscene: erm, you want a "launcher generated at login time"?
[00:57] <brightspark> dbz2021, the above was for you
[00:57] <fishscene> jrib: Nope, I'm looking to create a user-independent launcher that grabs the username when it is opened.
[00:58] <jrib> fishscene: to what end?
[00:58] <Cooldude4389> what is the tracert command for ubuntu?
[00:58] <fishscene> Basically, if the network path changes, I update the launcher, instead of having to tell everyone to delete their custom launcher.
 efi
[00:58] <Cooldude4389> like "tracert www.comcast.com" how would i do that in an ubuntu terminal
[00:59] <apshack> hi i have problem with aver media volar hx (a827) driver no works ,driver sucks any ideas?
[00:59] <thewanderer1> Cooldude4389: type "trace" in the terminal, press TAB, guess which of the suggestions is right...
[00:59] <fishscene> I have a similar situation on Windows where I have the link set to \\moo.grasslands.farm\barn\user\%USERNAME% (and set the link to read-only)
[00:59] <Cooldude4389> thewanderer1, so what exactly would i type? :v
[01:00] <jrib> fishscene: so why don't you just create a system wide launcher?
[01:00] <brightspark> dbz2021, what is the output of $ file *.efi
 its only 416Kb is that enough for an image file?im very new to this.
[01:00] <jrib> fishscene: oh, never mind.  I see.  Just write a shell script
[01:00] <apshack> hi i have problem with aver media volar hx (a827) driver no works ,driver sucks any ideas?
[01:00] <thewanderer1> Cooldude4389: traceroute www.comcast.com . and learn to use the tab key in Bash, it's a real time saver.
[01:01] <fishscene> jrib: That is what I was trying to do, but it wouldn't open the network folder OR it wouldn't interpret $LOGNAME correctly
[01:01] <brightspark> dbz2021,  no, that is too small.  but the 698 mb figure you quoted was correct.
[01:01] <Cooldude4389> alright
[01:01] <Cooldude4389> thanks
[01:01] <Cooldude4389> it says i need to install traceroute first
[01:01] <jrib> fishscene: nautilus $path; define $path earlier using « whoami » somewhere
 im sorry what do u mean by output of the file?
[01:02] <wildbat> Cooldude4389: install it or use tracepath
[01:03] <brightspark> if you navigate to the directory containing the file and type "file *.efi" without the quotes, I want to see what is displayed.
[01:03] <brightspark> dbz2021, the above was for you
 im so new to this and im scared installing this instead of running off a disc will mess my pc up.
[01:04] <apshack> hi i have problem with aver media volar hx (a827) driver no works ,driver sucks any ideas?
[01:04] <brightspark> dbz2021, where is the file you said was 698mb?
[01:04] <Wally> hmm how does one install Ubuntu onto a USB Stick correctly.
[01:04] <peterhil> What is the difference of Ubuntu Desktop and Server ISOs? Can I install a server from desktop ISO if I choose minimal or server distribution packages or should I use a server ISO? What are the differences? Does server version have some optimizations (kernel or otherwise) for server usage?
[01:04] <bazhang> Wally, using unetbootin
[01:04] <dbz2021> i put it in a folder on the desktop.i didnt know where to extract it to.
[01:05] <Wally> yay its got a Mac version
 that was for you.
[01:06] <brightspark> dbz2021, can you open a terminal for me?
how?
[01:07] <html-inprogress> HI
[01:07] <apshack> any ideas?
[01:07] <brightspark> dbz2021, press ctrl-alt-t
 i pressed it and got nothing
[01:08] <astrozombie> Hi all, I want to download the latest Blender 2.58 but it says i need glibc 2.7, when i type 'ldd --version' in terminal it says i have 2.13, does anyone know how i update to glibc 2.7?
[01:09] <brightspark> dbz2021, or go to applications>accessories>terminal
[01:09] <froq> is there a program that will decode a file on the fly before transfering it?  I have lots of HD movies on my computer, however, I have an old computer in the living room... can I have my computer transcode them on the fly before sending them over the network to the second computer??
 thanks for this i know helping someone new is a pain.
[01:10] <MrKeuner> hello, trying to install a printer, how can I decide what queue mode I should be using?
[01:10] <Wally> MrKeuner: depends if the printer is on the desk next to you
[01:10] <Wally> or in cyberspace somewhere
 so i go to applications>accessories>terminal on my pc right.
[01:10] <brightspark> dbz2021, not to worry.
[01:10] <MrKeuner> Wally, how can I judge?
[01:11] <brightspark> dbz2021, what OS are you currently using?
[01:11] <MrKeuner> Wally, ?
[01:12] <apshack> suckss driver aver media (a827)
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> peterhil, basically the only difference is server doesn't come with a GUI by default.  I'd recommend you use the Desktop version and simply install services - unless you want the non-GUI version.
[01:12] <apshack> hel me
[01:12] <Wally> MrKeuner: well is it right next to you?
[01:13] <MrKeuner> Wally, nevermind
win 7 home premium
[01:13] <FluttershyFan> is it a bad idea to try to install graphics drivers manually with ubuntu?
[01:13] <xangua> apshack: can you give more details, besides 'it sucks'
[01:13] <Finnsopp> any1 know where i can install compiz from git?
[01:14] <canu-qumm> hey again
[01:14] <apshack> please wait..
[01:14] <brightspark> dbz2021, oh- i thought you were looking for a file on a Linux system.  What files can you see inside the rar archive?
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> froq, I don't think there is a transcoder fast enough to do it "on the fly".  Although ogv can be encoded pretty fast - you could "try" that (i doubt quality would be satisfying)
[01:15] <canu-qumm> yo guys
[01:15] <dimas_> FluttershyFan nobody will suggest you to install anything manually
[01:15] <canu-qumm> i got a question on dwm
[01:15] <FluttershyFan> I think thats what im gonna do
[01:16] <dimas_> FluttershyFan have fun
[01:16] <apshack> say: installer failed to prepare driver installation
[01:16] <froq> ZykoticK9, oo bummer.. I was just think about stuff like AirPlay, et al. fro the ipads, and such, and didn't know if there was an app that would just transcode on the fly over smb, etc.
[01:16] <bsmith093> is there anyone available with a price list in usd, rather than euros, with anywhere near this much storage for the same price?
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> froq, i'm only familiar with the typical gnu/linux transcoding stuff - perhaps such an app exists?  But i doubt it.  Good luck.
[01:17] <FluttershyFan> so I downloaded the ubuntu graphics drivers from ati website... now what?...
[01:17] <apshack> 1. the kernel source of the running kernel is not installed .The package of kernel source is named like "kernel source" or "kernel devel"
[01:17] <canu-qumm> I'm having problems with DWM.
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> FluttershyFan, the main reason it's to recommended to use 3rd party drivers is they aren't supported
[01:17] <apshack> any ideas?
[01:17] <FluttershyFan> is there any special program I use to open it?
[01:18] <szal> FluttershyFan: define "ubuntu graphics drivers"
[01:18] <canu-qumm> Once I have edited it, I need to compile and reinstall it
[01:18] <bsmith093> froq: try tversity, it does on thr fly transcoding
[01:18] <canu-qumm> what commands for that? I did $ make but it didn't change after that.
[01:18] <apshack> it's rare fuckers
[01:18] <apshack> help me
.disc, boot, casper, dists, efi, install, isolinux, pics, pool, pressed
[01:18] <onewaycourt>  /part
[01:19] <ZykoticK9> canu-qumm, if you are use a source compile - check out "checkinstall" that why you can remove whatever it is your compiling
[01:19] <MrKeuner> hello, trying to install a printer, how can I decide what queue mode I should be using?
[01:19] <szal> !language | apshack
[01:19] <ZykoticK9> !checkinstall | canu-qumm
[01:19] <dimas_> FluttershyFan they lied to you...the naked woman is not going to come out the screen in ubuntu
[01:19] <froq> bsmith093, awesome!  thanks sir.
[01:19] <wildbat> hmm ~ anyone use sshfs?  it seem nautilus can't delete non-empty directories inside a sshfs , rm -rf in cli works, but in nautilus "Removing Error: Opertion not permitted"~ any clue/ fix?
[01:20] <canu-qumm> ok ill try that then
[01:20] <bsmith093> froq: im not sure if it works natively with ubuntu thoguh, might need to compile
[01:20] <FluttershyFan> ati-driver-installer-11-6-x86.x86_64.run
[01:20] <canu-qumm> ZykoticK9: so you've tried dwm?
[01:20] <froq> bsmith093, I think I can work with that.  thank you.
[01:20] <dimas_> how are we going to fix this mess with the put and take in audio configuration?
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> canu-qumm, no - don't even know what it is.
[01:20] <cordoval> how to recover from a window without borders crash?
[01:20] <FluttershyFan> what do I do with it?
[01:20] <cordoval> my window manager failed how to restore it back?
[01:20] <apshack> please fix problem
[01:20] <cordoval> which command should I run, I dont want to have to log out for this
[01:20] <canu-qumm> ZykoticK9: it's called Dynamic Window Manager, it's like GNOME and KDE.
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> cordoval, "compiz --replace" perhaps
[01:21] <cordoval> anyone?
[01:21] <szal> FluttershyFan: most probably there are instructions at the place you downloaded it from..  and why are you using these anyway?  is the ATI driver you can install via the pkg management not good enough?
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> canu-qumm, not reall "like", but i know what you mean
[01:21] <cordoval> compiz --replace sounds too strong
[01:21] <brightspark> dbz2021, those files should be inside the iso file i think.  I'm not sure how to diagnose this on Windows- why don't you just download the actual iso instead of a rar?
[01:21] <cordoval> anyone any command to just restore the borders of my windows?
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> cordoval, that reloads compiz
[01:21] <cordoval> they are gone
[01:21] <robin0800_> FluttershyFan: It says on their site how to install it I suggest you read it
[01:21] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: you've been talking about that all day so I ended up installing it
[01:21] <rxt0> hi there, I noticed that in recent versions of ubuntu I can't personalize gdm's apperance / themes, how can I do it on the latest ubuntu? 11.04
[01:21] <cordoval> ok thanks that worked
[01:22] <dimas_> i am so frutrated with pulseaudio, jack and alsa
[01:22] <ZykoticK9> dimas_, welcome to gnu/linux audio ;)  It can certainly be a challenge sometimes.  Best of luck.
 i didnt know i could, do you know where i would find where to download just the iso file?that would make this so much better.
[01:23] <FluttershyFan> robin0800_: it does not, theres no dirrections on this page nor a link to them
[01:23] <dimas_> Zykotick9 i like your nick....lol
[01:23] <szal> FluttershyFan: on what page exactly?
[01:23] <FluttershyFan> who?
[01:23] <ZykoticK9> dimas_, i stole it from a local industrial band from the early 90s
[01:23] <Oberdan> theres a warning when perform a do-released upgrade on my vps ssh, with live traffic
[01:23] <FluttershyFan> the amd website where I downloaded the drivers
[01:24] <szal> FluttershyFan: URL?
[01:24] <brightspark> dbz2021, do you know which version of ubuntu you want?
[01:24] <ZykoticK9> FluttershyFan, i really don't recommend you continue, BUT a *.run is something you make executable and "run"
[01:24] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: you installed it? funny.
[01:24] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: means you can actually help me now :P
[01:24] <dimas_> does exist a .run extention for ubuntu?
[01:25] <ZykoticK9> dimas_, .run is "legitimate" executable
[01:25] <dimas_> oke
[01:26] <Oberdan> my ubuntu on vps have problems with a simple wi-fi home network
[01:26] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: I downloaded the source and then went to that directory and typed "make"...then it created a binary called "dwm"...I moved it to /usr/bin/dwm, and then edited .xinitrc in my home folder to say "exec ck-launch-session dwm" then did startx
[01:26] <brightspark> dbz2021, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download and choose the options you want.
[01:26] <Oberdan> uops, on desktop
[01:26] <dbz2021> no (lol) i really dont know anything about  this OS(lol) im just jumping into it head first
[01:26] <fluttershyfan> heres the link http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
 above was for you.
[01:26] <TheNander> Anyone know if it's possible to update ubuntu if you are using wubi
[01:27] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: kay then, so?
[01:27] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: no lol i already installed it, like 3 hours ago
[01:27] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: it actually worked for me by then
[01:27] <lapaga> TheNander, yes
[01:27] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: you were asking about recompiling it
[01:27] <TheNander> How would I do that then?
[01:27] <szal> fluttershyfan: see above the download box -> http://www2.ati.com/relnotes/Catalyst_11.6_Linux_Installer.pdf
[01:28] <lapaga> TheNander, do you mean update or upgrade?
[01:28] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: you need to download the source from their website and extract it, then make changes in config.h if you want, then type "make" and move the binary to /usr/bin
[01:28] <TheNander> I mean go from 10.10 to 11.04
[01:28] <kierge> the ati propietary driver on my natty causes a kernel panic on shutdown.   i'm also experiencing slow cursors and pointer advancement when i type and navigate my mouse
[01:28] <Bonez305> what kinda performance could i expect with my old pentium 4 2.8ghz 512mb rig
[01:29] <centHOGG> small ram will hurt there
[01:29] <Bonez305> i see
[01:29] <kierge> Bonez305, you will suffer most from low memory and will have to use gnome
[01:29] <fluttershyfan> lol im running on a pentium 4 2.8ghz cpu procesor right now
[01:29] <brightspark> dbz2021, I would recommend the 10.04 LTS, but make your own choice-- 11.04 has newer features but 10.04 will be supported for longer and has more applications available.
do you have a suggestion
[01:29] <lapaga> TheNander, i will have to back out as I have never upgraded - I usually just burn an iso and install
[01:29] <dimas_> Zykotick9 where should i start?....i just find out i have again pulseaudio installed...i think the only thing i didnt read careful when i install some extentions was frmo totem so anyhow...now jack is not working which it never worked by the way...well...is some apps but now...what is that whole deal with this pkgs that cratch the others?....anyway...do you know anything about jackd?
[01:29] <brightspark> dbz2021, see above.
[01:29] <centHOGG> older = server lts
funny u read my mind
[01:30]  * szal runs Kubuntu on his other machine (Sempron 2800+ (2 GHz)), albeit w/ 3 GB of RAM
[01:30] <alexleon> firwfox doesnt play youtube videos -.-
[01:30] <Bonez305> fluttershyfan: but with how much ram ?
[01:30] <TheNander> lapaga: Alright, thanks for trying though.
[01:30] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: well now that you're here, are you on DWM right now?
[01:31] <nit-wit> alexleon, you need a flash player, generally installing the restricted extras covers most of what you need.
[01:31] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: I'm in ubuntu, but I installed Arch in Virtualbox to use dwm
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> dimas_, sorry I only tried installing jack once - and i failed, so I'm no help there.  FYI removing Pulse (if you tried) will break Gnome audio.
[01:31] <brightspark> dbz2021, that download will take a while, so don't start right before you need to shutdown.
[01:31] <alexleon> nit-wit i have flash
[01:31] <kierge> despite having 64bit flash installer installed i cannot play .flv
[01:31] <TheNander> Anyone know how to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 if I used WUBI to install 10.10
[01:32] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: You can use dwm on Ubuntu too.
[01:32] <nit-wit> alexleon, install tyhe flash ais addon in FF addons it should fix you up.
[01:32] <nit-wit> *flash aid
[01:32] <alexleon> its only youtube and its only firefox cuz on  midori i can play
[01:32] <dimas_> Zykotick9 i had cracked the whole platform already
[01:32] <apshack> fix  problems aver media  (a827) driver please or i break   chiped
[01:32] <alexleon> flash aid?
[01:32] <lapaga> Bonez305, i am using a 1.9 with 256m with xubuntu 11.04 and it works - not saying it will work as well as with 8g ram
[01:32] <alexleon> ok
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS,      ubuntu-10.04.2-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent     ubuntu-10.04.2-alternate-i386.iso.torrent     ubuntu-10.04.2-alternate-i386.iso.torrent     ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent     ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent     ubuntu-10.04.2-server-amd64.iso.torrent     ubuntu-10.04.2-server-i386.iso.torrent,
[01:32] <Wally> apshack: fix it yourself.. its Opensource
[01:33] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: which is what I'm doing.
[01:33] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: I have gnome2 exactly like I want so I just wanted to try it out in virtualbox
[01:33] <Corey> Wally: Not helpful.
[01:33] <apshack> wally you are stupid ¿ok?
[01:33] <nit-wit> alexleon, it is a addon that will keep you up to date , well knopwn add on.
[01:33] <centHOGG> it's when browsing the web when small ram will really hurt
[01:33] <Wally> Corey: its common sense.. This guy is obviously trolling!
[01:33] <html-inprogress> so how do i use katana milti-boot ?  as seen on hak5?
[01:33] <Bonez305> lapaga can u use teeamviewer i wanna see how well it maneuvers
[01:33] <lapaga> Bonez305, never used teamviewer
[01:34] <brightspark> dbz
[01:34] <apshack> wally  i break chiped now not problem
 those are the options and im not sure which one to get.i have a amd x4
[01:34] <Bonez305> i see
[01:34] <apshack> fuck off
[01:34] <Lemons_infuse> I have ubuntu 11.04 installed and went to install gnome 3. It wanted me to restart mt computer so I did and now ubuntu fails to start and stops and says ' Stopping System V runlevel compatibility' how can I fix this?
[01:34] <Wally> yay you broke it!
[01:34] <alexleon> i got flash aid now what
[01:34] <Wally> Typical 13 year olds.
[01:35] <brightspark> dbz2021, the one you want is the 4th one you listed
[01:35] <nit-wit> alexleon, click on the icon in the right corner top panel
[01:35] <MrKeuner> Wally, go troll somewhere else
[01:35] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: Fine by me.
[01:35] <Wally> MrKeuner: I am a honest Aussie citizen.. I admit I trolled.. I will stop
[01:36] <alexleon> ok
[01:36] <MrKeuner> good
[01:36] <alexleon> then wizard mode then next next next right?
[01:36] <nit-wit> alexleon, yeah
[01:37] <fishscene> gvfs-open seems to be a fairly simple command. Would anyone know why it opens "smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn/user", then immediately goes up one level to: "smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn"?
[01:37] <bazhang> Wally, follow the channel guidelines. your commentary is uncalled for and unacceptable
[01:37] <kierge> the ati propietary driver on my natty causes a kernel panic on shutdown.   i'm also experiencing slow cursors and pointer advancement when i type and navigate my mouse
[01:38] <alexleon> still cant play :(
ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent? that will work on my pc? isnt the i386 an intel thing? im just ignorent of this im sorry.
[01:38] <alexleon> still cant play :(
[01:38] <Wally> bazhang: even if I admitted my "wrong doing"
 cause i have an amd.
[01:38] <syrinx_> dbz2021: it will work fine
[01:39] <nit-wit> alexleon, what happened with the flash aid? #2 Do you have noscript or a script blocker like flashaid or another installed.
[01:39] <syrinx_> dbz2021: i386 is used to distiguish 32bit from 64 bit
[01:39] <Scribbled2x> Hmm don't suppose anyone would know where to get a sources.list for oneiric?  For whatever reason, mine had only 1 line in it
[01:39] <alexleon> i have adblock
[01:39] <nit-wit> alexleon, I mmeant adblock for a blocker not flash aid.
[01:39] <brightspark> dbz2021, it will work fine and is likely to be more compatible with software than the 64bit version.
[01:39] <Freedom>  
[01:39] <alexleon> flash aid just installed something
[01:40] <alexleon> i dont understand
[01:40] <html-inprogress> HI
[01:40] <Freedom> hi, im on 10.10 with 2.6.35.22  I want to do this :  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/2011-05-12-oneiric/   will it work ok ? thanks
[01:40] <szal> Scribbled2x: -> #ubuntu+1
[01:40] <szal> Freedom: you too
[01:40] <Scribbled2x> thank you
[01:40] <nit-wit> alexleon, open it and look if your blocking ytming
[01:41] <szal> Freedom: sorry, misread
[01:41] <html-inprogress> whats the channel for katana?
[01:41] <alexleon> nit-wit open what? adblock or flash aid?
 thank you,one more stupid question, is this kinda like windows or am i gonna get lost as soon as it loads up?
[01:41] <alexleon> cuz i have adblock disabled
[01:42] <szal> html-inprogress: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels <- search for yourself
[01:42] <nit-wit> alexleon, flashaid installed the newest adobe flash and removed the installer that is good, open adblock and look for any youtube block or ytming, they would have been done by so at the top of the list.
[01:42] <hackedmone> hi i have a problem with aver media volar hx
[01:42] <soultekkie> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28233/ << vote if you like the idea
[01:42] <nit-wit> *done by you.
[01:43] <alexleon> flashaid has a lil red f circle now :)
[01:43] <alexleon> ill check adblock
[01:44] <nit-wit> alexleon, your running ubuntu correct?
[01:44] <alexleon> yes
[01:44] <hackedmone> my aver media volar hx crash
like i said im real new to computers and am just loving learning everything about them but some things r very confusing.but F it ill learn.
[01:44] <brightspark> dbz2021, not at all stupid questions.  you really ought to be okay- it loads from a cd so you don't need to install to hard disc straightaway.  it will take time to find all the programs you want but in general the menus should be accessible to a computer user.
[01:44] <bazhang> hackedmone, what that device? link please
[01:44] <Scribbled2x> szal - thanks - found the channel but I think they are somewhat shy in that channel :)  Well either that or my charming personality really aint so charming - which is probably the case
[01:44] <ZykoticK9> soultekkie, give up - ubuntu will be using Unity, face facts (PS they really don't care what their users think)
[01:44] <nit-wit> alexleon, are you familiar with opening the repositories in software sources to get third party stuff?
[01:45] <alexleon> nit-wit nop :S
[01:45] <nit-wit> alexleon, that is a no?
[01:45] <hackedmone> http://www.avermedia.com/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=293 for windows 7 worked fine
[01:45] <alexleon> nit-wit but i think its something about flash cuz many ppl had this problem today
[01:45] <pitlimit> Can anyone tell me how I can get adobe flash for firefox? Is there an add-on?
[01:46] <alexleon> pitlimit u cant use youtube right? -.-
[01:46] <pitlimit> alexleon: I'm trying to use a flash app online
[01:46] <nit-wit> alexleon, I would not cause and effect that way, close everything and open synaptc from the menu
[01:46] <szal> !flash | pitlimit
[01:46] <pitlimit> also, can anyone tell me how I can ssh into another computer and have it work as if it's my own desktop environment?
[01:46] <pitlimit> i want to ssh into my ubuntu machine at another location . I used -x but i dunno how to get the desktop environment
[01:47] <bazhang> hackedmone, okay, let me check, please wait a moment
[01:47] <chaddy> pitlimit: you can do that with nxclient and nxserver
[01:47] <brightspark> use a capital X, pitlimit.
[01:47] <alexleon> pitlimit use midori :)
[01:47] <pitlimit> brightspark: using X will do it????
[01:47] <Zak> Can someone help me fix my ubuntu? I'm running 11.04 and tried installing gnome 3. After I restarted, I get this everytime I try to start ubuntu and it always stops here. https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/2011-07-06%2021.40.20.jpg?w=5b2c20d4
[01:47] <hackedmone> but my aver media is break ,ok
[01:47] <pitlimit> i alreayd did that brightspark
[01:47] <ZykoticK9> pitlimit, ssh with X forwarding doesn't open a whole desktop, you just open the GUI application and it appears on the local Xorg
[01:47] <JeZ-l-Lee> was a long time Gnome user but with Gnome 3 and Unity I switched over to XFCE in Xubuntu - its great for Gnome 2.x fans
[01:47] <brightspark> if the X environment is the problem
[01:47] <hackedmone> i breaked this shit
sweet,you have no idea how much you have helped me even though i know to you those were very easy questions i had no idea what to do and now i know  so thank you.
[01:47] <pitlimit> i want the whol edesktop ZykoticK9
[01:47] <hackedmone> aver media sucks
[01:48] <html-inprogress> szal hi
[01:48] <Corey> hackedmone: Not helpful.
[01:48] <Corey> hackedmone: Please watch your language.
[01:48] <rww> Zak: the GNOME 3 PPA for Ubuntu 11.04 is not officially supported, and is thus not supported in this channel.
[01:48] <html-inprogress> szal, thanks
[01:48] <bazhang> hackedmone, no cursing here. I am checking. please wait
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> pitlimit, use vnc then?
[01:48] <alexleon> i use to break stuff too
[01:48] <pitlimit> oh
[01:48] <robin0800_> soultekkie: I think in 11.10 the choice will be unity 3d or unity 2d you should campaign for classic to be available
[01:48] <Zak> rww: thanks then
[01:48] <pitlimit> the problem i'm having is that i can use x11... but adobe flash on the firefox... it's making me download it, but i don't have sudo access to that machine
[01:49] <pitlimit> i want to install flash but i cannot use apt-get install
[01:49] <brightspark> dbz2021, not a problem at all.  I hope your download works out fine, but I need to go to bed as I have work tomorrow.  Cheers
[01:49] <Bullhorns> I have a laptop Gateway NV53 and I've been using external speakers since forever and now all of a sudden nada won't work the internal speakers and HDMI work but not the external output can any one help?
[01:49] <nit-wit> alexleon, this page will get you going, youy need the restricted extras.
[01:49] <nit-wit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
have a nice night.take it easy.
[01:49] <alexleon> nit-wit ok
[01:49] <canu-qumm> ok
[01:49] <fishscene> Does anyone know why "gvfs-open /home/fishscene" Opens up "fishscene", then backs out to "/home"?
[01:49] <bazhang> http://www.avermedia.com/Support/DownloadCount.aspx?FDFId=3209 hackedmone it supports up to ubuntu 9.10 so far it seems. I am checking for later versions
[01:50] <alexleon> nit-wit youtube was fine a couple of hours ago
[01:50] <fishscene> If I hit the back button, it takes me back to "/home/fishscene"
[01:50] <alexleon> :(
[01:50] <soultekkie> robin0800_: I prefer Gnome, as do many other users... all I am "asking for" is for a setup choice between Unity and Gnome(hopefully 3)
[01:50] <hackedmone> ok i need for 11.04
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> soultekkie, perhaps you could find a distro that uses Gnome instead?
[01:51] <soultekkie> robin0800_: i know there are ways to put gnome back as default... but if you could choose what to use would be the cherry on top of the cake
[01:52] <soultekkie> ZykoticK9: Gnome is available... why not make a choice available... Gnome is "already" installed
[01:52] <Scribbled2x> szal - are you familiar with oneiric?
[01:53] <rww> Scribbled2x: don't ask oneiric questions here, please
[01:53] <robin0800_> soultekkie: what I am saying is there will be no classic in 11.10 so no choice
[01:53] <hackedmone> bazhang this driver not work ,i think the linux comunity have resolve this problem
[01:53] <rww> it's in a separate channel for a reason :)
[01:53] <ZykoticK9> soultekkie, that's not what Canonical want's to do - and your discussion is OT in this channel
[01:53] <bazhang> hackedmone, patience please, I am checking
[01:53] <nardev__> hello, can someone suggest me simple proxy for web. Someone blocked me youtube and i have dislocated server available :)
[01:53] <Scribbled2x> rww it wasn't a question like tech support question it was more like a should I wait until later question but rww I understand and np
[01:54] <hackedmone> ok bazhand but i cheked ,result zero
[01:54] <szal> Scribbled2x: -> #ubuntu+1
[01:54] <ZykoticK9> Anyone with YouTube issue - try using https and see if it works.  Let me know if it does.
[01:55] <hackedmone> this not is a simple problem   bazhang,itś complicaded
[01:55] <lapaga> because of all the chat I just tried youtube and it works fine with chromium and the update today
[01:55] <fishscene> ........... ok. If I have the window open for /home/fishscene, and I click on my gvfs-open launcher, it works just fine. But if I CLOSE the first window and use the gvfs-open launcher again, it opens /home/fishscene, then immediately goes to /home and I have to click the BACK button to go back to my folder. Is this a bug?
[01:56] <soultekkie> 11.10 is still in alpha... not to mention the next LTS at 12.04... so ideas may come and go....
[01:56] <hackedmone> i am doing changes in the code source
[01:56] <szal> hackedmone: file a bug w/ the manufacturer, there's a contact given in one of the text files
[01:56] <centHOGG> man after this last version I have some apprehension about the next LTS
[01:56] <hackedmone> szal thanks
[01:56] <soultekkie> so do i centHOGG
[01:57] <bazhang> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_AverTV_Hybrid_Volar_HX_%28A827%29#Getting_it_to_work hackedmone
[01:57] <bazhang> hackedmone, aver says they will not update the linux drivers, so you will need to do the steps in the link above to get it working.
[01:57] <ZykoticK9> centHOGG, soultekkie  Ubuntu != Linux, there are other distros out there
[01:58] <hackedmone> bazhamg ok i knows it
[01:58] <bazhang> hackedmone, so it will work, but you need to take some steps as outlined above.
[01:58] <soultekkie> ZykoticK9: how long have you used Ubuntu... or linux for that matter? just curious
[01:59] <bazhang> soultekkie, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:59] <Wally> oh god not avermedia.
[02:00] <bazhang> Wally, no need for the commentary
[02:00] <Wally> bazhang: Sorry but we were just talking about it in our office.
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> soultekkie, gnu/linux for probably 8+ years, exclusively (WinXP was my last MS install).  I used RedHat, then Gentoo for a number of years, then Ubuntu for several more - but Unity forced me to find something else (and im happy again) </OT>
[02:00] <bazhang> Wally, this is not the channel for it.
[02:00] <Wally> i'll take it to Off-Topoc
[02:01] <TrevInc> Zykotick9, will you come back if Unity improves?
[02:01] <twobitsprite> I have an iso file which I can't mount... says you must specify filesystem type... but "file" says it's iso9660.... any ideas why that might be?
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> TrevInc, no.  Unity is just one issue I have with Canonical.  An actual community distro is where I will stay </OT again sorry>
[02:02] <rww> ZykoticK9: stop that, please :(
[02:04] <qin> !classic > ZykoticK9
[02:05] <Jordan_U> twobitsprite: What happens if you try "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/iso/ /mnt/" ?
[02:06] <wildbat> anyone use sshfs?  it seem nautilus can't delete non-empty directories inside a sshfs , rm -rf in cli works, but in nautilus "Removing Error: Opertion not permitted"~ any clue/ fix?
[02:07] <creepingDeath> How do i send a message to another computer connected on my router with ubuntu?
[02:07] <fluttershyfan> ok how do i uninstall the the AMD catalyst proprietary driver?
[02:07] <qin> creepingDeath: What kind of message?
[02:07] <Jordan_U> wildbat: What about "rmdir" with an empty directory?
[02:07] <fluttershyfan> these dirrections i got are nonsense
[02:07] <creepingDeath> qin any kind
[02:07] <WayneBlackmon> Excuse me, I have a sound problem, can someone help me?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> !details | WayneBlackmon
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> wildbat, just use ssh and Nautilus' "Connect to" i'm able to delete empty folders?
[02:08] <WayneBlackmon> It seems my external speaers won't work. My internals do work however. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04.
[02:08] <chaddy> creepingDeath: talk user@host
[02:08] <WayneBlackmon> Is it possibly just a driver?
[02:08] <chaddy> creepingDeath: you'll need talk daemons installed, too
[02:08] <wildbat> Jordan_U: it work too ~
[02:09] <creepingDeath> will it work if the other computer is a mac? Qin/chaddy
[02:09] <szal> !audio | WayneBlackmon
[02:09] <chaddy> talk works with mac os x, yes
[02:10] <chaddy> think there is a bit of code to paste on it, though, will look
[02:10] <morth> hi
[02:10] <Jordan_U> wildbat: And deleting an empty directory in nautilus?
[02:10] <szal> creepingDeath: you mean like 'net send' on Windows boxen?
[02:10] <qin> creepingDeath: empathy have people near by, but netcat is more fun: server nc -kl 963 , client: nc ip_of_server 963, and you have chat (not secure), also wall (propably even less secure).
[02:10] <Zamfire> round rock?
[02:11] <wildbat> Jordan_U: it work too ~ ~ just non-emtpy directionary
[02:11] <fluttershyfan> can someone please help me install these ati graphics drivers?
[02:11] <fluttershyfan> these dirrections i got are complete nonsense
[02:11] <Zamfire> let me guess, you have an old laptop
[02:11] <creepingDeath> chaddy do i have to install talk on both machines?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> wildbat: Have you tried creating a directory with only one simple text file and trying to remove the directory (from nautilus)?
[02:12] <Zamfire> @flutter: you have an old graphics card?
[02:12] <wildbat> Jordan_U: YUP ~ i maked "123" and insdie have empty text "1"
[02:12] <wildbat> Jordan_U: it failed to del that ~
[02:13] <Jordan_U> wildbat: If you try to delete the same directory with "rm -r" (not -rf) is it deleted successfully?
[02:13] <fluttershyfan> "Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the AMD Catalyst proprietary driver download." how do i navigate to a file in the terminal???
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> fluttershyfan, "cd /path/to/folder"
[02:13] <chaddy> creepingDeath: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/ntalkd.8.html < how to get it going on mac
[02:14] <qin> creepingDeath: dcc (irc initated for example) works everywhere
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> fluttershyfan, FYI cAsE matters
[02:14] <chaddy> creepingDeath: yes, and a talk daemon; it's a bit iffy on ubuntu as there are so many talk clients and talk daemons available, I use gtalk for the daemon and ytalk for the client quite successfully
[02:15] <fluttershyfan> whats the path?
[02:15] <morth> yo
[02:15] <fluttershyfan> i need to go into my hard drive then into downloads then select a file
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> fluttershyfan, "cd ~/Downloads"
[02:16] <fluttershyfan> whats behind /downloads?
[02:16] <szal> !fhs | fluttershyfan
[02:16] <creepingDeath> k thanks chaddy
[02:16] <cuqaa> hey, is there a way to improve the shell lag somehow?
[02:16] <wildbat> Jordan_U: no problem either
[02:16] <cuqaa> i have really ugly delay when typing
[02:17] <robin0800_> ZykoticK9: do you really want to go down this route with fluttershyfan  as it won't work anyway
[02:17] <chaddy> cuqaa: your system under heavy load?
[02:17] <KM0201> itaylor57: o/
[02:17] <Jordan_U> wildbat: After creating the directory + text file again, if you delete the text file (from within nautilus) can you then delete the directory (again from nautilus)?
[02:17] <fluttershyfan> whats the point of the graphics drivers on the amd website then?..
[02:17] <cuqaa> no chaddy, its actually totally new
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> robin0800_, not really - i think 3rd party ATI is a terrible idea.
[02:17] <wildbat> Jordan_U: yes
[02:18] <itaylor57> KM0201, o/
[02:18] <Jordan_U> wildbat: Could you file a bug report against nautilus?
[02:18] <dansku> hey, im on ubunru 9.04, and when i try to update apt-get, i get many 404 Not found, how should I fix that?
[02:18] <szal> fluttershyfan: what's your graphics card?  you failed to answer that as of yet, afaics
[02:18] <rww> !eol | dansku
[02:19] <cuqaa> just installed ubuntu, not much running on it
[02:19] <cuqaa> or wait..
[02:19] <wildbat> Jordan_U: OH
[02:19] <Jordan_U> cuqaa: You're seeing lag with a local shell, not something remote (ssh)?
[02:19] <chaddy> creepingDeath: if you're using talk regularly you might like xphone, gives you a desktop alert when someone calls you ;)
[02:19] <cuqaa> yea its remote
[02:19] <wildbat> Jordan_U: got he url in hand by any chance??
[02:20] <Jordan_U> !bugs | wildbat
[02:20] <dansku> rww do you think i should distro upgrade?
[02:20] <wildbat> thanks
[02:20] <szal> dansku: not possible any more, your only option is to reinstall
[02:20] <rww> szal: that's not correct
[02:21] <dansku> hmmm
[02:21] <rww> dansku: follow the instructions in the URL ubottu gave to upgrade, or grab an installation CD and reinstall. your choice.
[02:21] <dansku> well, i have a server running, dont want to install everything again
[02:21] <Jordan_U> cuqaa: There's often not much you can do about lag but try to improve the network connection. If you're connecting over the internet via satalite for instance you're going to get lag no matter what you do.
[02:21] <dansku> rww do i have to distro upgrade?
[02:21] <fluttershyfan> ok forget installing the graphics drivers manually, since the dirrections are complete nonsence anyway
[02:21] <rww> dansku: Jaunty has unpatched security vulnerabilities and is not supported in this channel. I don't recommend staying on it.
[02:22] <fluttershyfan> is there any reason at all why my graphics card will not work on ubuntu?...
[02:22] <cuqaa> well, I dont use a proxy or whatever, also the server is quite near and its a webhosting company
[02:22] <Jordan_U> cuqaa: Is this connection going over the internet? Do you notice latency or low bandwidth with other network operations?
[02:22] <cuqaa> dunno if I maybe caused the lag somehow but cnt rly imagine it becaues I only installed like 2 or 3 things
[02:23] <dansku> rww will it screw all my mysql/apache?
[02:23] <speedrunnerG55> help, my sound isnt working
[02:23] <rww> dansku: possibly. make backups.
[02:23] <Jordan_U> cuqaa: What are the ping times to the same server?
[02:23] <dansku> yep
[02:23] <Psydoll> speedrunnerG55: have you checked under settings?
[02:23] <dansku> well, i will do that then
[02:23] <fluttershyfan> oh my god im throwing this shit ubuntu cd in the trash and getting windows.. ubuntu is seriously crap.. no wonder why so many need help with the piece of shit operating system
[02:23] <robin0800_> FluttershyFan: try "additional drivers" menu item see if ati drivers are there
[02:23] <rww> fluttershyfan: watch your language, please.
[02:24] <speedrunnerG55> i checked under sound preferences
[02:24] <cuqaa> 50 ms Jordan_U
[02:24] <Psydoll> flutter, its easy being a windows drone, its hard to be independent with open source.
[02:25] <Psydoll> speedrunnerG55: alright what i suggest is that you check that the input and output devices are enabled from the bios.
[02:25] <traskers> Every time I try to log in to my system, I get a "cannot update /home/user/.ICEauthority" followed by "/usr/lib/libgcconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256". I already tried to chown and chmod 0644 on .ICEauthority to no avail. Anyone know anything else?
[02:25] <speedrunnerG55> .....
[02:25] <Jordan_U> cuqaa: Can you try downloading a file from the same server and see what bandwidth you're getting, and specifically how consistent it is? (ssh doesn't require much bandwidth, so instability is more likely the issue).
[02:25] <qin> cuqaa: Look into /var/log/auth.log ? ssh often suffers from stupid jokes.
[02:25] <speedrunnerG55> i workes sometimes
[02:26] <Psydoll> it works sometimes?
[02:26] <speedrunnerG55> but sometimes it dosent. its not application specific
[02:26] <Psydoll> speedrunnerG55: its probably faulty hardware
[02:26] <cuqaa> nothing there qin :>
[02:26] <speedrunnerG55> sometimes when i start my pc it works, some times it does not
[02:26] <Jordan_U> traskers: What is the owner of ~/.ICEauthority ?
[02:26] <speedrunnerG55> faulty hardware?!
[02:26] <speedrunnerG55> im using a sound card :'(
[02:27] <Psydoll> yeah your soundcard is probably faulty or the speakers, or the audio out.
[02:27] <traskers> Jordan_U: user:user
[02:27] <cuqaa> but its strange, right now its much better
[02:27] <cuqaa> than 5 mins ago
[02:27] <cuqaa> maybe its just some weird load right now
[02:27] <traskers> Jordan_U: -rw-r--r-- are the permissions as well.
[02:27] <cuqaa> * sometimes
[02:28] <Jordan_U> traskers: Where 'user' is the user whose home directory .ICEauthority is in?
[02:28] <traskers> Jordan_U: yes.
[02:29] <Jordan_U> traskers: Are other users having the same problem?
[02:29] <hwq001> traskers: try this http://linuxfloat.org/gnome3-could-not-update-iceauthority-file-homeusericeauthority
[02:29] <traskers> Jordan_U: it's my only user
[02:29] <robin0800_> speedrunnerG55: run alsamixer in a terminal make sure your sound card is there and outputs not muted
[02:30] <traskers> hwq001: I see the "gnome-session" and I remember having a similar problem to this before and I think that fixed it, so I'll give that a try again.
[02:30] <Psydoll> traskers: I have barely ever felt the need to change file rights, is it that common?
[02:32] <MetallicMonk> I needs the help.
[02:32] <MetallicMonk> Lol
[02:32] <lemons> Could someone help me solve package dependancies? I had the chromium browser installed before, but then i tried installing gnome3 and it didnt work so I removed it, and the when I restarted, chromium was uninstalled. When I try to install it now, I get these errors: http://pastebin.com/GgDKAFKC
[02:33] <Wally> Seems like you either A) broke your path, B) uninsatlled GCC as well
[02:33] <thauriswulfa> what does tumblred process do?
[02:33] <thauriswulfa> it runs when I run mozilla
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> lemons, you're proving the !gnome3 factoid true.  You might need to reinstall, unless someone is willing to fix what you broke by installing gnome3.  Good luck.
[02:33] <bazhang> lemons, gnome3? from the PPA?
[02:33] <bazhang> !gnome3 | lemons
[02:34] <bazhang> lemons, hope you have backups. gnome 3 is not supported here and breaks things .
[02:34] <lemons> yeah i installed gnome3 from the ppa, but then i removed the ppa in order to get ubuntu booting again. am i basically screwed?
[02:34]  * KM0201 installed gnome 3... ended up reinstalling my OS.. :)
[02:34] <bazhang> lemons, reinstall is the best option, yes.
[02:35] <MetallicMonk> Hello, i need help uninstalling my Ubuntu that i put inside of windows. Now i know this seems like a dumb question, but it keeps telling me that it cannot run the command, and i can't install 11.04.. :(
[02:35] <bazhang> MetallicMonk, wubi?
[02:35] <bazhang> MetallicMonk, checked add/remove in windows?
[02:35] <MetallicMonk> tried that too, same problem.
[02:35] <psynophile_> Hello, quick question: I've been using mdadm for my raid for years now and I just recently upgraded from 8.04 to 11.04. Everything went well, the md devices were recognized and everything, but I was just curious. Is there a need to upgrade the raidset after an mdadm upgrade?
[02:35] <lapaga> MetallicMonk, just remove the file via windows
[02:35] <bazhang> MetallicMonk, exact error message please
[02:35] <Zynn3D> \server irc.virtualife.com
[02:36] <lemons> bazhang: :( that saddens me but I guess thats what i get for not reading and just copying and pasting the commands. is there anyway I can get a list of what programs I have installed so I can just copy and paste it into the terminal after I reinstall, and install all of my programs all at once instead of hunting them all down?
[02:36] <MetallicMonk> Well hot damn, i think i fixed it.
[02:36] <MetallicMonk> I went in and manually deleted the folder.
[02:36] <bazhang> !clone | lemons
[02:36] <MetallicMonk> In the uninstall/change menu it told me it was already uninstalled. Lol, thanks though you guys
[02:37] <bazhang> lemons, that may well not work in this case though. what with the mix of gnome3 in there
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> lemons, careful - using !clone in you case might lead to further issues
[02:37] <lemons> well if i look through it and delete everything except for what i know i need, i should be safe right? that is if i also ignore all extra libraries and whatnot and only leave what I'd end up manually installing
[02:38] <traskers> I'm trying to install applications via my chroot I have set up, but "sudo apt-get update" keeps failing, can anyone help me out?
[02:38] <BullHorns> Ok now I've asked this question before and got the polite FU but now I'm back and the drivers do NOT work. Like I said before External Speakers will not work Internal speakers do. I have a Gateway NV53. The External speakers work on Windows 7 but not on 11.04
[02:38] <BullHorns> Also I checkd the speakers they do works
[02:38] <bazhang> BullHorns, drivers for what
[02:38] <BullHorns> Audio
[02:38] <Icosagon> Have you tried checking if your ears work
[02:39] <BullHorns> ... Look I'm asking a question no need to be smart
[02:39] <bazhang> Icosagon, not helpful. please dont
[02:39] <nellwee> my firefox wont load. click on firefox and it acts like it will try to load then nothing... restarted pc and still firefox will not come up. running 10.04 ubuntu. is there a fix?
[02:39] <Icosagon> Also whats the name of the type of speakers?
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> nellwee, open a terminal and type "firefox" see if you get an error or some output that might help
[02:39] <Icosagon> ARe you plugging them into a jack or usb or what
[02:40] <BullHorns> It's OEM from Acer
[02:40] <BullHorns> I tested them by plugging them in to my iPod they do work
[02:40] <BullHorns> And they work on Windows7
[02:40] <nellwee> no error just went back to $ blink
[02:41] <lemons> bazhang: would it be safe to leave my /home partition so i can keep all of my settings? or would it be better to format that too?
[02:41] <robin0800_> BullHorns: do the external speakers mute the internal ones?
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> nellwee, is it currently running?  "ps aux | grep firefox"
[02:41] <cuqaa> ok fuck the lag
[02:41] <Icosagon> Is there any keyboard driver for ubuntu that can deal with rapid caps lock changes, right now. THis is what happens to me.  IT is not fun.  NOt that most people type like this, but anyone know if theres a driver that can keep up?
[02:41] <traskers> cuqaa: language.
[02:41] <BullHorns> No. it's plugged in from a standard 3.5mm jack nothing controlling the computer from the speakers
[02:42] <traskers> Icosagon: just curious, why are you having rapid Caps Lock changes?
[02:42] <Icosagon> Because I started typing on a keyboard with a broken shift button
[02:42] <nellwee> 2482  0.0  0.1   3324   804 pts/0    S+   21:42   0:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[02:42] <cuqaa> other question. i see on brand new ubuntu installation there are many standard users like daemon, bin, sys, sync and so on with /bin/sh as login shell
[02:42] <Icosagon> SO I got very quick at doing it instead of using shift
[02:42] <rww> keyboards have two shift keys
[02:43] <Icosagon> Well I was just learning I didnt know
[02:43] <cuqaa> is it actually possible to log in with those accounts?
[02:43] <robin0800_> BullHorns: well run alsamixer from a terminal make sure output is not muted
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> nellwee, if you only see the grep command as output, it doesn't look like firefox is running
[02:43] <Icosagon> BUt now I type so fast that it's just as fast as using a shift button and I Prefer doing it that way
[02:43] <BullHorns> Ok I'll try that as soon as I reboot back in to Ubuntu.
[02:43] <Icosagon> So I need a faster keyboard driver, anyone know one?
[02:45] <nellwee> ZykoticK9,  I click firefox and it shows up on bottom panel but not on desktop then it disappears from bottom panel and never runs
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> nellwee, you could try "firefox 2>error" then "cat error" and see if anything shows up
[02:46] <nellwee> ZykoticK9,  i already restarted pc a couple times
[02:46] <Icosagon> HElp my keyboard problem
[02:46] <Icosagon> BE that saviour
[02:47] <nellwee> nothing for either
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> nellwee, do you have another user on the system?  does the other user's firefox work?
[02:47] <Icosagon> A keyboard driver with better response times for the caps lock key is all I Require good sirs, please I Beseach thee is a humble peasant in this land of noble irc users
[02:48] <nellwee> ZykoticK9, no just me
[02:48] <Icosagon> anus
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> nellwee, you could try moving the settings to test.  "cd ~" then "mv .mozilla mozillaBACKUP" then try loading firefox again
[02:48] <dr_willis> hmm
[02:48] <lapaga> Icosagon, have you thought about just using the shift key?
[02:49] <Icosagon> No, I Refuse my finger to stoop to that level
[02:49] <Icosagon> that level being slightly closer to me
[02:49] <Bullhorns> Thank you for you help Icosagon when I rebooted Alsa failed on boot and when my computer corrected it fixed my audio issues
[02:52] <natee> whats up
[02:52] <tzhuang> is there anything that will let me run a window tiling manager in one workspace
[02:52] <tzhuang> and just a normal desktop in another
[02:52] <nellwee> ZykoticK9,  ok that fixed I can now bring up firefox but all settings are reset but no worries I will fix rest from here...thanks for help
[02:52] <tzhuang> on ubuntu of course (11.04)
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> nellwee, glad to help.
[02:53] <bluebomber> Why would an executable that I can see on my desktop and that I can cp, ls, etc. cause bash to give a "No such file or directory" error when I try to run it via "./myexecutable" (yes, it has execute permission)?
[02:53] <dr_willis> tzhuang:  you could sort of do that with a vncserver in a fullscreened vncviewer
[02:53] <tzhuang> is there anything that will let me run a window tiling manager in one workspace
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> bluebomber, are you using a 64 bit OS?
[02:54] <tzhuang> dr_willis: i'll google that thanks
[02:54] <dr_willis> tzhuang:  check out vnc4server or tight vnc
[02:55] <izinucs> tzhuang: nope.. but you could set it up to run in a different tty.. at least until the next release comes out that will not have "X".  You'll have to google for the how to's. It's not hard but not overly easy either.
[02:55] <bluebomber> ZykoticK9: Yes.
[02:55] <usr13> bluebomber: What does ls myexecutable say?
[02:56] <ZykoticK9> bluebomber, install ia32-libs then try again
[02:56] <bluebomber> -rwxr-xr-x  1 m m   6124 2011-07-06 21:28 command
[02:56] <usr13> bluebomber: what does file myexecutable say?
[02:56] <syrinx_> izinucs: the next release is going to have X
[02:56] <lapaga> Icosagon, I had a car parked over a grate and when I dropped my keys it would go into the grate...I practiced and practiced until I could catch the keys before they got into the grate and finally managed. After a while I suddenly realized that If I just did not drop the keys it would have saved me a lot of practice
[02:56] <syrinx_> izinucs: I'd like to know what makes you think otherwise
[02:57] <izinucs> syrinx_: really?  I thought they were going with wayland or some such
[02:57] <Icosagon> Lapaga, One day I exited an IRC chatroom with a half finished sente
[02:57] <dr_willis> wayland is still   very much a work in progress from what i read
[02:57] <syrinx_> izinucs: what does that have to do with X? X is a display manager...
[02:58] <izinucs> that's what I understand too.
[02:58] <syrinx_> wayland is a window manager
[02:58] <JohnSS_> How do I see the dependencies of a tar.gz?
[02:58] <qin> syrinx_: Really?
[02:58] <ZykoticK9> syrinx_, not really a windows manager but a replacement of Xorg
[02:58] <usr13> JohnSS_: You don't
[02:58] <izinucs> syrinx_: humm.. did think so.
[02:58] <JohnSS_> How do I see the dependencies of a file then?
[02:58] <dr_willis> JohnSS_:  depends on   whats in it
[02:58] <syrinx_> ZykoticK9: sounds pretty silly
[02:58] <bluebomber> usr13: I can't tell you for sure. The executable works for me (Mint & Ubuntu), but not for a friend. I'm giving you the information from a screencap he sent me and he had not run $ file command.
[02:59] <JohnSS_> Isn't it something like dep <filename> or something?
[02:59] <ZykoticK9> JohnSS_, not for tar.gz files
[02:59] <bluebomber> usr13: My friend's using Ubuntu 64 bit (In a VM, I believe)
[02:59] <usr13> bluebomber: Well, I dono then.
[02:59] <JohnSS_> How about for unzipped files?
[02:59] <dr_willis> bluebomber:  he is  spelling the name right? ;) proper case
[02:59] <ZykoticK9> bluebomber, tell your friend to install ia32-libs then try again
[02:59] <natee> can somebody help me? ubuntu keeps crashing on me
[03:00] <izinucs> syrinx_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server_protocol)
[03:00] <syrinx_> yea, reading that now
[03:00] <usr13> ZykoticK9: bluebomber  ... or just find out if it is for 32bit or 64.
[03:00] <bluebomber> usr13, ZykoticK9: Yeah, I can't do just anything on command because hit's his problem, really, but I didn't know if this was one of those problems someone else has experience before and would recognize. I've never encountered anything like it.
[03:00] <Scribbled2x> Is there a replacement for qmail?
[03:00] <bluebomber> ZykoticK9: lol, yes, he is.
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> usr13, "No such file or directory" is common on 64bit systems, when trying to run 32bit files
[03:01] <usr13> JohnSS_: If it is a tarball, you should find a README file and that may tell you.
[03:01] <usr13> JohnSS_: Is this a package that you are wanting to install?
[03:01] <natee> i need help here
[03:02] <bluebomber> usr13: Why would that matter? Should not bash throw a different error than "file not found", perhaps something like "wrong architecture"?
[03:02] <usr13> ZykoticK9: Thanks info.
[03:02] <bazhang> !details | natee
[03:02] <dr_willis> bluebomber:  could be file system needs fscked. if ls -l    output showed  several ???  chars. but that dosent seem to be the case here
[03:02] <bluebomber> ZykoticK9: Hmmmm. I didn't know that.
[03:02] <natee> im using 10.10 and it keeps crashing on me
[03:03] <TrevInc> when does it crash
[03:03] <TrevInc> have you isolated a reason
[03:03] <bazhang> natee, thats not enough detail. please give tons more
[03:04] <natee> i know its old but i got bought it when it came out from ubuntus disk, and it randomly crashes, and no it varies each time like sometimes im on youtube and itl crash, or im using open office, just normal useage
[03:04] <usr13> bluebomber: Not sure what all happens when you try and run something for 32bit system on a 64bit system.
[03:04] <Psydoll> ?
[03:04] <usr13> ooops, I sait that backwards... but you get the msg.
[03:06] <bluebomber> usr13: He has a 64 bit system, so you said that correctly. I also have 64bit Ubuntu, and it works fine for me.
[03:06] <bluebomber> I'm thinking it's a filesystem issue.
[03:06] <ZykoticK9> usr13, bluebomber on a 64bit OS the libraries have different names, thus "file not found" type thing - the ia32-libs install the libraries the 32bit program is looking for
[03:06] <dr_willis> bluebomber:  also  try completing the filename with the tab key. saw once a space got on the front or end of a filename. but i think a fsck is a good idea
[03:07] <natee> i havent really pinned down an exact cause, but i know its not hardware, i have more than enough ram, and i have a whole hard disk (100gb) dedicated to ubuntu so its not that either
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> bluebomber, if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras it installs ia32-libs for the flash plugin
[03:07] <bluebomber> OK, I'll see what I can do. Thanks very much, ZykoticK9, dr_willis, usr13.
[03:07] <usr13> bluebomber: You could also try  sh file-name-here
[03:08] <Scribbled2x> ack - Is there an alternative for sendmail / qmail?  something maybe a little more current?
[03:09] <dr_willis> natee:  ram or hd could be failing
[03:09] <ZykoticK9> Scribbled2x, exim is a MTA
[03:09] <natee> they worked perfectly before installing ubuntu
[03:10] <dr_willis> natee:  so... they all fail eventually
[03:10] <natee> i have 1.5 gigs of ddr2 single channel ram and the hard drive is like not even two months old
[03:10] <Scribbled2x> Zykotick9 thanks
[03:10] <dr_willis> memtest from a live cd.. test with a live cd..
[03:11] <usr13> natee: memtest
[03:11] <natee> i did the mem test
[03:11] <natee> it completed with no errors
[03:11] <dr_willis> natee: hds can go bad at any time
[03:11] <dr_willis> ran it how long
[03:11] <natee> i let it run for about two hours
[03:11] <ZykoticK9> natee, what graphics card are you using? (I'm just curious)
[03:11] <natee> ati radeon
[03:12] <dr_willis> - ssh into box watch log files.. see what it says when it crashes.
[03:12] <usr13> natee: What does it do actually, (when it "crashes").
[03:12] <rxt0> hi there guys, I have found several bugs on ubuntu 11.04
[03:12] <syrinx_> natee: check dmesg?
[03:12] <natee> it freezes up my mouse wont work the keyboard doesnt do anything either
[03:12] <dr_willis> !bugs | rxt0
[03:12] <natee> and how do i do dmesg
[03:13] <x1o> jo
[03:13] <ZykoticK9> natee, "dmesg" is a command
[03:13] <usr13> natee: type it in to a terminal window and hit enter
[03:13] <dr_willis> 'dmesg' via ssh is one way
[03:13] <natee> ok thanks
[03:13] <natee> i did it thru the terminal what should i look for
[03:13] <dr_willis> need to seee if its jusssssst x crashing. or the whole pc
[03:13] <speedrunnerG55> my sound is working now
[03:14] <usr13> natee: You can also ssh in again and do tail -f /var/log/messages  and wait for it to crash again and see if anything interesting comes up.
[03:14] <speedrunnerG55> Psydoll,
[03:14] <speedrunnerG55> its working now
[03:14] <Psydoll> nice!
[03:14] <Psydoll> what was wrong with it?
[03:15] <natee> but when it crashes i cant do anything like the mouse and keyboard stop working and everything freezes up
[03:15] <dr_willis> natee:  thats why we keep mentioning ssh
[03:15] <Psydoll> The same problem happened to me in the past before and I ended up having to log back into windows and enabling the device from the device manager there, it could be done from the bios aswell though.
[03:15] <usr13> natee: Basically, you are looking for clues as to why it is crashing.
[03:16] <syrinx_> natee: logs don't go away when you restart...log in again and check the logs where it crashed
[03:16] <natee> how do i ssh? im kinda new to ubuntu im used to fedora
[03:16] <syrinx_> gotta be an error somewhere, could be X, could be something else
[03:16] <dr_willis> !ssh | natee
[03:16] <usr13> natee: When it crashes, can you ping it from another machine?  If so, try  to ssh into it and see what you can find out.
[03:17] <dr_willis> fedora has ssh also.
[03:17] <ZykoticK9> natee, FYI flash and ATI are probably the most likely causes - but it could be anything
[03:17] <syrinx_> all *nix has ssh, afaik
[03:17] <dr_willis> my cellphone can ssh ;)
[03:17] <syrinx_> hehe
[03:17] <natee> i only have one computer, i can see if i can get my friend to do it tho, and can i get a new video card for under 100 dollars thats compatible with ubuntu
[03:17] <usr13> natee: Is there anything in particular that seems to cause it to crash?
[03:17] <natee> youtube
[03:17] <lapaga> natee, not that I really know what I am talking about but for me it seemed to be flash or javascript that slowed things down to a crawl
[03:18] <syrinx_> natee: then its flash
[03:18] <natee> can i disable flash then
[03:18] <natee> ?
[03:18] <dr_willis> natee:  $100 is  enough to get most decent cards.
[03:18] <syrinx_> natee: sure
[03:18] <natee> il use my iphone for youtube if i can disable flash
[03:18] <Psydoll> any operators in here for the channel?
[03:18] <usr13> natee: Is it fully updated?
[03:18] <natee> the videocard?
[03:18] <rww> Psydoll: try #ubuntu-ops
[03:18] <NeedsHelp101> Can anyone help me really quick, I've been looking around on how to set a custom resolution ?
[03:18] <dr_willis> he said it crashes at other times  not just when browsing
[03:19] <natee> its mostly with youtube tho
[03:19] <natee> like iv had the occasional crash while typing up stuff in open office
[03:19] <dr_willis> youtube can use html5
[03:19] <natee> how do i change it
[03:19] <NeedsHelp101> youtube.com/html5
[03:19] <natee> thats easy lol
[03:20] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: xrandr
[03:20] <dr_willis> use google chrome browser also as a test
[03:20] <natee> i usually use chrome
[03:20] <ddaydj_> finally, it is surprisingly hard to connect to freenode ><
[03:21] <usr13> natee: how long did you run memtest?
[03:21] <NeedsHelp101> how do i set up a custom resolution? :(
[03:21] <natee> close to two hours if not more
[03:22] <taylsonmartinez> alguem sabe como entrar no canal do luzlSecBrasil
[03:22] <taylsonmartinez> ???
[03:22] <NeedsHelp101> que server?
[03:22] <taylsonmartinez> :S
[03:22] <rww> !br | taylsonmartinez
[03:23] <rww> not that that appears to be on-topic, but whatever
[03:23] <syrinx_> hehe
[03:23] <ddaydj_> so, i've spent the last 3 days trying to install ubuntu on my netbook and it installs fine but when it reboots it says no bootable device. its a cr48 that has insydeh20 installed. i think it has something to do with the bootloader not being configured for uefi
[03:23] <taylsonmartinez> mibbit
[03:23] <robin0800> NeedsHelp101: type what usr13 said in a terminal try --help for more info
[03:24] <usr13> natee: YOu might want to run memtest overnight.  But even then, I've sometimes found that it is not fool-proof.  You can have memory problem that can cause lockup and memtest wont' detect it.
[03:24] <kierge> i cannot access my network manager icon in natty to make vital changes to network configuration
[03:24] <NeedsHelp101> i've gotten that far
[03:24] <kierge> it just sits there
[03:24] <usr13> natee: How many memory sticks are in it?  And what size?
[03:24] <natee> is there a way to configure memtest theres two and whatever size adds up to 1.5gigs
[03:25] <kierge> need to access network manager but cannot
[03:25] <usr13> natee: take one out.  See if it crashes again.  If it does swich to the other one and try.
[03:25] <blocky> can anyone recommend a find-as-you-type indexing system and/or frontend similar to search everything for windows?
[03:25] <kierge> natee, when in doubt test 1 stick at a time 40 minutes on a not so slow machine with no errors is a very good hint
[03:26] <NeedsHelp101> Ok, after typing xrandr i see a list of default resolutions, it's currently at 1280x720 , i need to make it about 1067x600.
[03:26] <usr13> natee: It has been my experience that most complete lockups are due to bad memory.
[03:26] <kierge> blocky, google desktop would love to index your entire directory structure and commit it to its database
[03:26] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: Well, now you see what is available.
[03:27] <NeedsHelp101> Yes
[03:27] <natee_> crashed again sorry
[03:27] <kierge> usr13, it can also be a improperly seated peripheral card or even memory stick
[03:27] <Hovershell> Does ubuntu server edition use grub1, while ubuntu desktop uses grub2?
[03:28] <blocky> kierge: haha where is the database stored. can it monitor changes to the filesystem as well?
[03:28] <afallenhope> Hey guys, I had a quick question about iptables /linux firewalls. I have disabled iptables by allowing all traffic through. I was just wondering why is it that port is still not being open?
[03:28] <syrinx_> blocky: you don't have access to google's db
[03:29] <usr13> natee: Yes, and as kierge points out, memory sticks that are not fully seated could be a problem.
[03:29] <kierge> i'm certain it would be googles pleasure :)  i think there is a native ubuntu thing similar to beagle or somesuch  that does the same thing though beagle may not be the correct package name
[03:29] <natee_> fully seated?
[03:29] <afallenhope> I've tried using netcat and listening on the port but even then it didn't take.
[03:29] <blocky> kierge: lemme guess when you need to find a file on your system you just whip out find / -name * | grep
[03:29] <blocky> :P
[03:30] <natee_> what do you mean by fully seated?
[03:30] <lapaga> afallenhope, so you have no firewall and all ports are open listening and you want what??? a honeypot?
[03:30] <kierge> blocky, actually i hunt and peck like a chicken.  sudo updated and sudo locate filesnip works r me
[03:30] <natee_> should i take them both out, and make sure theyre snapped in as far as theyl go?
[03:31] <kierge> sudo updatedb and sudo locate filename
[03:31] <usr13> NeedsHelp101:  xrandr --output VGA --mode ####x###
[03:31] <kierge> Stallman is not pleased.
[03:31] <NeedsHelp101> but even is it's on hdmi type vga?
[03:31] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: Something to that effect.
[03:31] <BeedaWeeda> is there a chat where i can cyber?
[03:31] <BeedaWeeda> my nipples are tender
[03:32] <natee_> thats off topic
[03:32] <afallenhope> lapaga, no I'm just trying to allow connections to a single port
[03:32] <Hovershell> natee_: No kidding.
[03:32] <bikcmp> natee_: it is? never realized
[03:32] <bikcmp> boy have i been doing it wrong
[03:32] <bikcmp> :P
[03:32] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: Substitute ####x###  with what you want, and VGA to what applies.
[03:32] <dijonyummy> is there anything that can be done to reduce my laptop from hanging when i do a suspend. its random. sometimes it suspends fine. sometimes it hangs. i have 10.10. i have a 3 gb swap file enabled. i do sync several times and only keep browser open. still it hangs randomly on my laptop upon suspending. sucks.
[03:32] <natee_> back to the problem, what did you mean by my ram might not be fully seated
[03:32] <NeedsHelp101> says cannot find mode 1067x600
[03:33] <kierge> i do not know why natty denies me access to my network-manager could it be compiz given thats what natty uses by default ?
[03:33] <usr13> dijonyummy: Try using swap partition
[03:33] <blocky> natee, its not all the way in. it can go further into the hole
[03:33] <natee_> oh ok, also someone mentioned that one of them could be failing?
[03:33] <kierge> natee_, its got to be placed properly and latched very well without losing conductivity
[03:33] <ddaydj|work> anyone available to help me figure out why ubuntu won't boot after a clean install?
[03:34] <syrinx_> NeedsHelp101: why can't you use a supported res? monitors only support certain resolutions...
[03:34] <natee_> oh ok. il check that, i gotta go offline tho and open my computer
[03:34] <kierge> ddaydj|work, that happened to me using live usb creator
[03:34] <NeedsHelp101> it cuts off like half of the screen
[03:34] <natee_> il be back in like 10-15 minutes
[03:34] <usr13> natee_: sometimes taking a card out and putting it back in again will properly seat it, (because you are refreshing the contacts).
[03:34] <NeedsHelp101> well.. like a couple pixels on the edges
[03:34] <syrinx_> NeedsHelp101: use the monitors settings to stretch it out
[03:35] <natee_> il check my ram and be back in 10 to 15 mins
[03:35] <robin0800> NeedsHelp101: you need to add that mode I think
[03:35] <NeedsHelp101> =\
[03:35] <ddaydj|work> kierge: do you have a solution? i'm installing from usb, used the tool on the cd to prep the drive
[03:35] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: Was 1067x600  in the output of   xrandr   (when the command was issued with no arguments)?
[03:35] <NeedsHelp101> no
[03:35] <kierge> ddaydj|work, do you have  optical device ?
[03:35] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: There you go.
[03:36] <ddaydj|work> kierge: not really, this only has one usb port and an sd slot for inputs. i do have a usb cd drive, but i don't know if i can find a blank cd.
[03:36] <Lasers> Interesting question -- How can I tell if somebody is accessing my samba share?
[03:36] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: xrandr  with no arguments, tells you what screen sizes you have available.  You can not do 1067x600
[03:36] <kierge> ddaydj|work, that was my only solution.  there may be some way to dd a iso to a partition and have an installer launch an iso from hard drive but you'd need to make room ~ 1gb
[03:37] <NeedsHelp101> I've realized that xrandr gives me a list of resolutions I have supported, but I asked if there was a way to add a custom one.
[03:37] <ddaydj|work> kierge: i'll go find a cd to steal from someone and see if that does it
[03:37] <babu> i'm constantly working on some commands..
[03:37] <babu> i'm tired to type repeatedly
[03:37] <dr_willis> grub2 can boot an iso file from a  hd.
[03:37] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: No
[03:37] <syrinx_> babu: then linux might not be for you, mate
[03:37] <babu> is there any way to store the cmd in some other way
[03:38] <robin0800> NeedsHelp101: use -help on the command to see options
[03:38] <syrinx_> babu: tab-complete or write a script
[03:38] <qin> babu: alias or script
[03:38] <dr_willis> babu:  bash alias or a script
[03:38] <kierge> ddaydj|work, can the data on the sd card be backed up because that well,  don't know, i'm thinking usb creators is fubar i woulid google a solution to boot an iso thats been dd'
[03:38] <dr_willis> history buffer also
[03:38] <kierge> ed to a partition and somehow launch it
[03:38] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: If the hardware and the software does not support it, it's not gonna happen.
[03:39] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: man xrandr
[03:39] <NeedsHelp101> well i have dual installed with windows 7, and it supports custom res
[03:39] <babu> is stored in alias.. will it work even i reboot
[03:39] <babu> if stored in alias.. will it work even i reboot
[03:39] <syrinx_> NeedsHelp101: I already told you, no. Monitors only support the resolutions that they support
[03:39] <dr_willis> ddaydj|work:   you dont dd ubuntu iso's they dont work that way. other distros may work that way
[03:40] <dr_willis> babu:  time to learn some bash basics.. answer is it can. if done right
[03:40] <qin> babu: need to write alias to ~/.bashrc, scripts are more tide and powerfull
[03:40] <kierge> ddaydj|work, i have heard of such things as network installs though server speeds may not be optimal and i've never done a ubuntu install that way you maybe able to usb creator your sd card boot and do network install
[03:40] <NeedsHelp101> But why would the same monitor on Windows 7 support it and the same monitor on Ubuntu not
[03:40] <dr_willis> babu:  put alias in .bashrc file
[03:40] <qin> *tidy
[03:40] <usr13> NeedsHelp101: If the hardware and the software does not support it, it's not gonna happen.
[03:40]  * syrinx_ facepalms
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> NeedsHelp101, it's more a driver issue then monitor actually
[03:40] <Guest565> helllo my name is nicholas i have a problem i took the hard drive out my laptop and mad it a external so that i can put a new os on it and place it back in the laptop i loaded the new os on the extarnal and now the os that on my desktop will not load the master boot is on the external how do i get it back on my desktop
[03:41] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | Guest565
[03:42] <babu> alias babu='export set $CLASSPATH=/usr/local/tomcat6/webapps/bank/WEB-INF/lib/mysql-connector-java-5.0.8-bin.jar:$CLASSPATH'
[03:42] <babu> i create my alias as before
[03:42] <kierge> NeedsHelp101, living in home is better than griping it may not work now or perhaps it does with the proper solution if you an isolate the reason.
[03:42] <kierge> hope
[03:42] <babu> when i run alias,it says not a valid identifier
[03:42] <babu> wat's thereason
[03:42] <babu> wat's the reason
[03:42] <NeedsHelp101> hmm
[03:42] <dr_willis> babu:  why not just set that in .bashrc directly
[03:43] <usr13> babu: What says "not a valid identifier"?
[03:43] <kierge> hope will find a solution or direct you to your next stage in ubuntu computing
[03:43] <Lasers> export set?
[03:43] <bikcmp> hi all, how can I make oidentd refuse identd connections for a specific user?
[03:43] <dr_willis> i think... export set is wrong
[03:44] <dr_willis> babu: talk in channel.. you are doing stuff wrong basically.  ;)
[03:44] <babu> ok
[03:46] <NeedsHelp101> ehh
[03:46] <NeedsHelp101> thanks anyways..
[03:47] <kierge> can anyone recommend a wall paper website with well artistic computer neutral wallpaper something other than interfacelift which is great if you have the patience
[03:47] <kierge> well made
[03:47] <bazhang> kierge, gnome-look.org
[03:47] <kierge> i wouldn't call that well done at least most of them
[03:48] <bazhang> !themes | kierge
[03:48] <dr_willis> only you can decide that.. not us.
[03:48] <kierge> right..  google
[03:48] <bazhang> kierge, then take a look at the others. please dont poll here for wallpaper
[03:48] <robin0800> kierge: deveantart
[03:49] <gmzlj> wallbase.cc
[03:49] <dr_willis> simple solid colors.. ;)
[03:49] <kierge> wallpaper is very much ubuntu/computer related some of it is even included in your ubuntu repository
[03:49] <kierge> good idea
[03:49] <[deXter]> Hi all, anyone know of an audio converter that can convert mpga files?
[03:50] <bazhang> kierge, sure it is. polling for aesthetic appeal is not.
[03:50] <dr_willis> [deXter]:  tried ffmpeg, mencoder,  yet
[03:50] <gmzlj> [deXter]: gstreamer from commandline
[03:50] <[deXter]> dr_willis, gmzlj, thanks, will look into it now.
[03:51] <gmzlj> [deXter]: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/wiki/Transcoding
[03:51] <gmzlj> wait, nm
[03:51] <[deXter]> thanks.
[03:51] <gmzlj> thats useless
[03:51] <[deXter]> lol
[03:51] <dr_willis> heh.
[03:51] <gmzlj> here we go
[03:51] <gmzlj> http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2005/05/07/transocding-with-gstreamer/
[03:51] <Lasers> Interesting question -- How can I tell if somebody is accessing my samba share?
[03:52] <kierge> bazhang, you are not an ubuntu employee anymore ?
[03:52] <gmzlj> Lasers: theres a audit module
[03:52] <dr_willis> Lasers:  you could check the logs
[03:52] <bazhang> kierge, how is that on topic here?
[03:52] <Lasers> gmzlj: Can you explain more?
[03:52] <kierge> dropped
[03:52] <gmzlj> Lasers: you need to enable an audit module
[03:52] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[03:52] <gmzlj> then you can log different accesses
[03:53] <dr_willis> those docs may be a little out of date.
[03:53] <gmzlj> Lasers: http://inming.net/?p=256
[03:53] <qin> Lasers: sudo netstat -tuep | grep <samba_port> | notify-send "Visitors!!!"
[03:53] <Lasers> dr_willis: I have many logs under samba directory. I'll see if anything useful turns up -- but I like the commands.
[03:53] <gmzlj> google around, it can be file based too
[03:54] <Lasers> qin: WIll try.
[03:54] <qin> Lasers: Loop it, and done.
[03:54] <gmzlj> smbstatus would work better
[03:54] <gmzlj> for a loop
[03:54] <qin> Lasers: I guess, grep on logs, inotifywait is better
[03:54] <dr_willis> logwatch, grep  ;)   depends on your rxact needs
[03:55] <qin> gmzlj: Oh, so someone thought of it already...
[03:55] <gmzlj> Lasers: what _exactly_ needs to be looked at
[03:55] <gmzlj> which shares or which files?
[03:56] <Lasers> gmzlj: I have HTPC downstairs. I just wanted to know if they're watching something. (So I don't reboot and make them cry!) :)
[03:56] <gmzlj> Lasers: smbstatus
[03:56] <gmzlj> then
[03:56] <odix> anyone know why after two clean installs i would get cannot get values for hd0 c/h/s grub ?
[03:56] <gmzlj> it'll tell you which shares are currently open and which files are currently locked
[03:56] <dr_willis> Put a webcam down there.. Spy on them. ;)
[03:56] <Lasers> gmzlj: o locked files -- I see.
[03:57] <kierge> nit-wit
[03:57] <Lasers> dr_willis: o.O
[03:57] <Lasers> gmzlj: Thank you very much. I learned something new. :)
[03:57] <gmzlj> np
[03:57] <odix> ls gives me hd0
[03:57] <dr_willis> Set up the grand kids room that way we can check on them when they are 'too quiet'  ;)
[03:58] <Lasers> dr_willis: I was referring to my parents -- but yes, people and their assumptions. :P
[03:58] <dr_willis> And we can remote play movies for them via vlc remote.
[03:58] <kierge> dr_willis, as long as they have a super nintendo they ought to be in good hands.  you are equipped with 4 quad runners to ?
[03:59] <kierge> ;)
[03:59] <dr_willis> Yard is too small... 5 bicycles.. For 2 kids however..
[03:59] <kierge> thats alright too :)
[04:00] <Lasers> dr_willis: Real life-sized hamster wheels akin treadmills.
[04:00] <dee27> can u save irc channels?
[04:00] <bazhang> !ot
[04:00] <Lasers> dee27: Sure. For automatic join and whatnot. Yes.
[04:00] <kierge> dee27, they are full of human viruses
[04:00] <bazhang> dee27, what irc client
[04:01] <bazhang> kierge, stop that
[04:01] <dee27> this one
[04:01] <dee27> xchat
[04:01] <dr_willis> dee27:  clarify what you mean by save
[04:01] <bazhang> dee27, to autojoin?
[04:01] <dee27> like save the channels so when i log in i dont have to enter manually
[04:01] <natee> back
[04:01] <natee> i took my ram out and put it back in
[04:02] <dr_willis> Xchat has some ok docs online.
[04:02] <dr_willis> dee27:  it can autojoin. Yes
[04:02] <dee27> cool
[04:02] <bazhang> dee27, xchat menu, network list edit ubuntu servers, enter autojoin channels #chan1,#chan2,#chan3 thus
[04:02] <Lasers> dee27: It can -- You have to find out first. Configuration + Settings. It's there, yes.
[04:02] <kierge> nit-wit
[04:03] <hatuhaha> wellcome
[04:03] <dr_willis> I dont recall it having a 'save all to autorejoin later' feature. But its scriptable. So that can be doable
[04:03] <bazhang> kierge, what is your question?
[04:03] <kierge> i didn't have a question for you to answer
[04:05] <tonysan_> How do I track which process is eating out my CPU time and RAM in a postmortem manner?
[04:05] <Lasers> tonysan_: Logs! Logs! Logs!
[04:06] <tonysan_> Lasers: which log?
[04:06] <hwq001> tonysan: sudo top
[04:06] <tonysan_> If htop could have a log, that would be nice
[04:07] <tonysan_> hwq001: it is already restarted since I cannot access it when it was overloaded
[04:07] <Lasers> tonysan_: It could be syslog, dmesg, messages -- Because you didn't exactly record anything -- What time did it occur? Etc -- It's just there -- but where? I'm not too sure. Just keep that in mind for the NEXT occurrence.
[04:08] <tonysan_> Lasers: If it is from apache, ther might be some errorneous script out comewhere
[04:08] <tonysan_> but I need to find which process that causes this problem first
[04:08] <tonysan_> Is there any kind of htop/top like utility that will keep logs?
[04:09] <tonysan_> I'll just run them until this happens again
[04:10] <Lasers> tonysan_: something top -b > saveNewLog.log ?
[04:10] <Lasers> tonysan_: Something I picked off from the Internet (just now).
[04:12] <ddaydj|work> kierge: installed from a cd and still not able to find a boot device after rebooting
[04:12] <Djbu> How to convert djvu to pdf with preseving text and formatting?
[04:13] <qin> tonysan_: i=$(date); while [ 1 ]; do ps aux > ~/log/$i; sleep 5; done
[04:14] <qin> tonysan_: ups, i need to be assigned inside loop
[04:14] <zeppelin101> does ubuntu have an image editor by default?
[04:14] <kierge> ddaydj|work, if its old hardware you may have to boot o a live session before installing and remove dmraid and libdmraid its a quirk with old pentium controllers that were never fixed leaving people clueless, if your installer can't see your drive
[04:15] <ddaydj|work> its new, and i think that's the problem. it uses uefi instead of bios. its a cr48
[04:15] <kierge> ddaydj|work, oh not sure.  google is a valuable resource if no one else knows offhand
[04:16] <bazhang> !google > kierge
[04:16] <ddaydj|work> kierge: been playing around with this for 3 days now, google hasn't been able to provide a solution, that's why i'm here
[04:16] <Lasers> qin: Shouldn't it be >>, not >? :)
[04:17] <qin> Lasers: No, date (in right format), will refresh if put inside loop.
[04:17] <zeppelin101> anyone know if ubuntu has an image editor by default?
[04:17] <Lasers> !remaster | zeppelin101
[04:18] <Lasers> zeppelin101: Image Editor? Is this what you're looking for?
[04:18] <chx> is there a way to get Amazon MP3 uploader workin' under Linu?
[04:18] <chx> *Linux
[04:19] <zeppelin101> Lasers: like MS Paint.. i know what the options are, but i was just wondering if there was one by default. my current install has been around for a while so i cant remember if there was one
[04:19] <Lasers> qin: I tried it -- -bash: ~/log/$i: ambiguous redirect ^C
[04:19] <bazhang> zeppelin101, for 11.04? shotwell you mean?
[04:19] <bazhang> zeppelin101, if you mean photo editor that sort of thing
[04:19] <Lasers> !photoshop | zeppelin101
[04:19] <ddaydj|work> anyone else have suggestions on why i get "no bootable device" after a clean install of ubuntu?
[04:20] <bazhang> Lasers, thats not what he is asking
[04:20] <Lasers> zeppelin101: There are few we can say off our heads-- Inkscape, GIMP.
[04:20] <Lasers> bazhang: Yes. Just giving him plenty of informations so he does not have to be limited to one option.
[04:20] <bazhang> Lasers, those are not default.
[04:21] <bazhang> ddaydj|work, using usb stick to install on the cr48?
[04:21] <zeppelin101> bazhang: yea, I meant shotwell. i just like to know what the default apps are sometimes
[04:21] <qin> Lasers: while [ 1 ]; do i=$(date +%T); ps aux > ~/$i; sleep 5; done
[04:22] <pseubodo1> Ubuntu mounts USB disks automatically in RW mode, is there any way to set out that there are specific disks that should only be mounted in RO mode?
[04:22] <Prodego> /part
[04:23] <Cooldude4389> is there a wine channel?
[04:23] <kierge> bazhang i answered the man with the question to use google if no one else here knew the answer.  in english i wrote "if no one else knows offhand" it is very apparent to me that you have singled me out since me return to this channel.
[04:23] <bazhang> Cooldude4389, #winehq
[04:23] <Cooldude4389> thanks
[04:23] <pseubodo1> Cooldude4389: #winehq?
[04:23] <bazhang> kierge, people know about google. please do NOT refer them to google. better to just not answer.
[04:23] <Cooldude4389> yeah
[04:23] <alachiq>  hi all, how to find cd/dvd mount point in terminal?
[04:24] <kierge> an answer that quick took nothing inconsideration for what i just said
[04:24] <Lasers> alachiq: Usually in /media/ (if done automatically)
[04:24] <pseubodo1> alachiq: df?
[04:24] <alachiq> pseubodo1: df???
[04:24] <gmzlj> alachiq: mount or udisk
[04:24] <qin> alachiq: demsg?
[04:24] <pseubodo1> alachiq: you're looking for where a CD/DVD was mounted?
[04:25] <Lasers> pydf? :P
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> alachiq, typing "mount" as a command will show everything that is mounted
[04:25] <pseubodo1> alachiq: you could also do 'cat /etc/mtab'
[04:25] <pseubodo1> Prodego: but the other options are better (eg. just typing in 'mount')
[04:25] <alachiq> ZykoticK9: how to do after/before mount?
[04:25] <pseubodo1> erm s/Prodego/alachiq/
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> alachiq, just "mount" that's it
[04:26]  * Prodego nods
[04:26] <alachiq> pseubodo1: my dvdrw is external USB
[04:26] <pseubodo1> sry
[04:26] <pseubodo1> alachiq: okay, let me ask a different question. 'Why' are you trying to find this?
[04:26] <alachiq> ZykoticK9: mount could not show any cd or dvd
[04:27] <pseubodot> alachiq: the CD or DVD has to be mounted already
[04:27] <alachiq> pseubodot: for detecting without any software
[04:27] <alachiq> pseubodot: ok. how to find mounted point ?
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> alachiq, oh you mean if it isn't mounted?  you "should" be able to use /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd as the device name, then simply choose a mount point.
[04:28] <pseubodot> alachiq: generally, once you insert a CD or DVD into the drive, it should mount automatically
[04:28] <alachiq> k3b and other software can be use and detect in terminal commands
[04:28] <Takyoji> Any way to get NetworkManager to acknowledge that I have a working internet connection through the interface bridge0?
[04:28] <pseubodot> alachiq: if it doesn't, then you can mount it manually
[04:29] <alachiq> pseubodot: after inserted i couldnot find that
[04:29] <pseubodot> alachiq: you inserted it?
[04:29] <Takyoji> Programs that ignore what NetworkManager states as the network status can connect just fine.
[04:29] <pseubodot> alachiq: does it show up on your desktop
[04:29] <pseubodot> alachiq: ?
[04:29] <alachiq> pseubodot: i can detect it. how to mount manually :D
[04:29] <pseubodot> alachiq: ahhhhh
[04:30] <jtannenbaum> Requests to websites in google chrome keep timing out. How can I see what's taking up so much network?
[04:30] <alachiq> pseubodot: yeah. i inserted in cdrom
[04:30] <pseubodot> alachiq: try 'sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt'
[04:30] <jtannenbaum> nvm it's better now
[04:30] <pseubodot> alachiq: do you have an internal CD/DVD reader?
[04:30] <alachiq> pseubodot: i have 2 reader. internal and external
[04:31] <pseubodot> alachiq: okay, so we have to find them. no problem
[04:31] <pseubodot> alachiq: try this: 'dmesg | grep sr | less'
[04:31] <alachiq> pseubodot: i want to find sr0/sr1/hda/hdc in /dev. whats for me now ?
[04:31] <pseubodot> alachiq: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking...
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> alachiq, you could try "ls -l /dev/cdrom"
[04:32] <alachiq> pseubodot: in my pc  reader is /dev/hdc ok? in our pc reader is /dev/sr0
[04:32] <alachiq> pseubodot: i want to find whats mounted
[04:33] <pseubodot> alachiq: is the internal CD/DVD device IDE?
[04:33] <pseubodot> pseubodot: (not a SATA CD/DVD device?)
[04:33] <alachiq> pseubodot: so so
[04:33] <pseubodot> (apparently, I can't type tonight ...)
[04:34] <alachiq> pseubodot: can you underestad my quastion?
[04:34] <pseubodot> alachiq: so let me see, you have an internal dvd/cd device, and a usb-based dvd/cd device?
[04:35] <alachiq> pseubodot: yeah!
[04:35] <pseubodot> alachiq: and if you type 'mount' does it show you any CD or DVD devices mounted?
[04:35] <alachiq> pseubodot: no
[04:35] <pseubodot> alachiq: okay ... hmmm
[04:35] <alachiq> pseubodot: but k3b cant detect it
[04:36] <alachiq> pseubodot: before mounted
[04:36] <pseubodot> alachiq: and what sort of disc did you put into the external CD/DVD device?
[04:36] <dr_willis> There is a k3bsetup tool or menu item
[04:36] <zeppelin101> fyi to all, 'Pinta' looks like the perfect image editor - supposedly a clone of Paint.NET
[04:37] <zeppelin101> looks realllly sleek
[04:37] <ka1gdq> help needed with kodak 5250 all in one   and trying to use either simple scan or Scanner Utility.. They do not see the scanner, however I can print fine.. I do understand the cup driver only supports printing....help please...
[04:37] <alachiq> pseubodot: in my pc sr0 is internal and sr1 is external
[04:37] <pseubodot> alachiq: excellent, now we're getting somewhere.
[04:37] <alachiq> pseubodot: in other pc sr1 is internal and sr0 is external
[04:37] <dr_willis> ka1gdq:  sane is the scanner driver tools
[04:37] <pseubodot> alachiq: wow, that is strange
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> zeppelin101, to bad pinta is mono-infected ;)
[04:38] <alachiq> pseubodot: yes its my big problem . i can find it correctly
[04:38] <ka1gdq> ??  Dr.   Same as the scanner driver tools??? will do I find that?
[04:38] <alachiq> pseubodot: *can't
[04:38] <pseubodot> alachiq: so now you need the command line to mount the drive, correct?
[04:38] <dr_willis> !sane
[04:38] <alachiq> pseubodot: yeah!
[04:39] <pseubodot> alachiq: if nothing is already mounted on /mnt, you could try 'mount /dev/sr1 /mnt' if this is the external drive
[04:39] <ka1gdq> thanks ubotto..i will check that be back ina  bit
[04:39] <pseubodot> alachiq: correction
[04:40] <pseubodot> alachiq: you would need 'sudo mount /dev/sr1 /mnt'
[04:40] <pseubodot> alachiq: sorry
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> alachiq, to list all the sdXs on your system you could use "ls /dev/sd<TAB>" the highest letter is most likely the cdrom/dvd.
[04:40] <alachiq> pseubodot: my problem is sr0/sr1. no problem in mounted that
[04:40] <ivan__> hola
[04:41] <bullgard4> (On a vServer:) '~$ screen -x; There is no screen to be attached.' What did I do wrong?
[04:41] <pseubodot> alachiq: sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question ...
[04:41] <alachiq> ZykoticK9: ls /dev/sd <TAB> could not show any cd/dvd
[04:41] <qin> bullgard4: screen -dr ???
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> alachiq, no it will show sda sdb sdc etc. - the highest is "probably" the cd/dvd
[04:42] <rallias> umm... cd/dvd is /dev/cd or /dev/dvd
[04:42] <ivan__> hola quien habla español
[04:42] <bullgard4> qin: I put here a question. I expected here an answer and no question.
[04:42] <dr_willis> rallias: those are links to the actual device
[04:42] <nightrid3r> !es
[04:42] <alachiq> pseubodot: ok. how to detect  whats cd/dvd are connected on pc
[04:42] <rallias> dr_willis they still work :D
[04:42] <bullgard4> !es | ivan__
[04:43] <dr_willis> rallias: if they exist.
[04:43] <zeppelin101> Zykotick9: i dont get the joke. mono - is that something like gtk+?
[04:43] <rallias> dr_willis oh they exist :D
[04:43] <alachiq> pseubodot: find sr0 or sr1 or etc.
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> zeppelin101, mono is microsoft's .Net
[04:43] <zeppelin101> ohhhh
[04:43] <pseubodot> alachiq: 'dmesg | grep "sr[0-9]" | less'
[04:43] <qin> bullgard4: second idea is, your server rebooted, uptime.
[04:43] <personfromthefro> how do you get your system speaker beep to play as a sound for an alarm in evolution or thunderbird or anything?
[04:43] <zeppelin101> haha so u cant use it for ideological reasons then haha
[04:43] <dr_willis> rallias:  not always.  Usimg the proper sdx should always work
[04:43] <rallias> sdx doesn't ever refer to a disk drive
[04:44] <rallias> its like sr0 or something..
[04:44] <pseubodot> alachiq: you might alternatively do 'dmesg | less' and look through it
[04:44] <dr_willis> zeppelin101:  .net and mono are equilivents
[04:44] <qin> ZykoticK9: So, you are hardliner, comrade.
[04:44] <dr_willis> rallias:  i have systems with optical being sdxx and sr0 both
[04:45] <dr_willis> It just depends
[04:45] <bullgard4> qin: Yes, my server rebooted.
[04:45] <zeppelin101> well i guess i like mono-infested apps then!
[04:45] <rallias> dr_willis: What did you mess up then? I thought standard was to have it be /dev/sr0
[04:45] <qin> bullgard4: Life....
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> qin, i guess?  I even use "gnu/linux" whenever i can ;)
[04:45] <dr_willis> rallias:  did not touch anything. It can just depend
[04:45] <ivan__> ok donde  coloco ese comado  soy nuevo en esto
[04:46] <rallias> anyhow, does anyone know how to install mod_gzip on apache 64 bit?
[04:46] <broad> rofl
[04:46] <alachiq> pseubodot: http://codepad.org/XZgPLsQD
[04:46] <pseubodot> I have heard of IDE CD/DVD devices being put as hd[a-whatever] but not as sd[a-whatever]
[04:46] <TrevInc> ivan__: could you speak english please?
[04:47] <dr_willis> pseubodot:  thats how they worked ages ago
[04:47] <raevol> any idea why using xdg-open from the command line to opena  desktop file would run fine, but clicking on it in the menu fails?
[04:47] <pseubodot> alachiq: aaaahhhhh
[04:47] <TrevInc> !es > ivan__
[04:47] <personfromthefro> so does anyone know what command or file you play to make the internal system speaker beep?
[04:47] <pseubodot> alachiq: try another CD or DVD please. :)
[04:47] <dr_willis> personfromthefro:  thers a beep command.
[04:47] <pseubodot> alachiq: your device is bad or your disc is bad
[04:47] <yyk> maybe
[04:48] <pseubodot> dr_willis: indeed. I've been using Linux for ... oh my ... almost 15 years?
[04:48] <alachiq> pseubodot: yeah! no problem.
[04:48] <pseubodot> (holy mackeral! I'm old!)
[04:48] <pseubodot> alachiq: it works?
[04:49] <alachiq> pseubodot: yes, i want to just find and detecting thats
[04:49] <dr_willis> pseubodot:  i recall    ide = hdx  sata=sdx.  Accidently reformated a disk once when they changed ide to sdx also..
[04:49] <pseubodot> alachiq: you put in a different CD/DVD into this device and it mounted already?
[04:49] <pseubodot> dr_willis: Oo, ouch
[04:49] <dr_willis> Old-sckool stuff.
[04:49] <pseubodot> dr_willis: I haven't run into the sata CD/DVD being reported as sdx
[04:50] <alachiq> pseubodot: puted and not mount yet
[04:50] <pseubodot> dr_willis: but that would REALLY REALLY SUCK if it 'hid' a drive and I formatted it
[04:50] <pseubodot> alachiq: okay, can you post your 'dmesg' again?
[04:50] <dr_willis> yep
[04:50] <dr_willis> It can happen
[04:51] <alachiq> pseubodot: http://codepad.org/RikiqaO3
[04:51] <dr_willis> pseubodot:  ive seen u3 flash drives show up as a sr0 and sdx - so weird names can happen. ;)
[04:51] <personfromthefro> dr_willis: i did an apt-get beep, made sure it was installed, then ran the command "beep" but nothing happened.
[04:51] <ddaydj|work> bazhang: missed your message, i've tried usb and cd, same results with both
[04:52] <pseubodot> dr_willis: pcie-based SSDs are *very* interesting ...
[04:52] <dr_willis> personfromthefro:  not all pcs have speakers that can beep these days
[04:52] <personfromthefro> dr_willis: but mine does. in fact it just did when you direced that message at me
[04:52] <dr_willis> personfromthefro:  try it from console perhaps
[04:52] <pseubodot> alachiq: the second paste is from the second machine?
[04:53] <alachiq> pseubodot: bouth
[04:53] <personfromthefro> dr_willis: console? you mean terminal?
[04:53] <dr_willis> personfromthefro:  that may be the system bell. Not a beep. ;)
[04:53] <lsv> does it mean anything if I have /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1 and not BAT0?
[04:53] <alachiq> pseubodot: only internal or external ?
[04:53] <dr_willis> I mean the console... Alt-ctrl-f1
[04:53] <personfromthefro> dr_willis: thanks. do you know how to utilize the system bell in an alarm such as evolution?
[04:53] <dr_willis> Ie; not in x
[04:53] <dr_willis> personfromthefro: nope
[04:54] <gmzlj> lsv: nothing
[04:54] <pseubodot> alachiq: looking at http://codepad.org/XZgPLsQD, I seem something strange, you have 2 entries for sr1 (sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray) and (sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 94x/94x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray)
[04:54] <gmzlj> lsv: your motherboard is missrepresenting things
[04:54] <gmzlj> its an acpi quirk
[04:54] <gmzlj> but no big deal
[04:55] <lsv> gmzlj: thanks, any reason as to why the 1 and not the 0.  You see my friends battery icon is not working properly and he has a 1 and not a 0.
[04:55] <gmzlj> lsv: buggy acpi, most likely hardware quirk
[04:56] <gmzlj> it really shouldn't be a big deal on its own
[04:56] <gmzlj> its BATT1 for me as well, but its all working here
[04:57] <lsv> gmzlj: thanks... How about if the files in that directory are empty files?
[04:57] <gmzlj> emtpy? how are you trying to read the,?
[04:58] <gmzlj> *them
[04:58] <lsv> cat *
[04:58] <gmzlj> then something is wrong
[04:58] <gmzlj> they shouldn't be empty
[04:58] <gmzlj> info would give you battery information
[05:00] <lsv> he said that when he click on the icon is said missing battery and won't show stats
[05:00] <westz> can i put multiple live ISO's on a DVD, put a bootloader on it, and boot any ISO on the DVD and install any i want?
[05:00] <alachiq> pseubodot: exellent, my problem is it.
[05:00] <gmzlj> westz: yes and no
[05:00] <alachiq> pseubodot: i can extract string from that report
[05:00] <westz> gmzlj, what can and cant i do?
[05:00] <gmzlj> lsv: acpi is not reporting the battery's state properly, just its presence
[05:01] <gmzlj> westz: you can do exactly that, it just takes some effort to organize the dvd
[05:01] <lsv> gmzlj: I thinks that's pretty much what's happening, but I have no idea as to why or how to fix it?
[05:02] <gmzlj> westz: various sub directories have to be made, each with each iso's content
[05:02] <westz> gmzlj, documentation for it?
[05:02] <gmzlj> and the main bootload with the various boot options have to be modified to point to them
[05:03] <gmzlj> westz: google
[05:03] <gmzlj> unfortunatly
[05:03] <gmzlj> westz: try looking at mutilple distrobution netbooting / pxe
[05:03] <gmzlj> it be similar
[05:03] <ddaydj|work> new people around? have suggestions on why i get "no bootable device" after a clean install of ubuntu? tried installing from usb and cd
[05:03] <gmzlj> with isolinux instead of pxelinux
[05:03] <lsv> gmzlj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/638339/  <- this is what he got from cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/*
[05:04] <gmzlj> lsv: update bios if you can, the hardware is not sharing the information properly
[05:04] <gmzlj> if it works in windows a bios update should take it
[05:05] <gmzlj> or you have to hack the apci tables (not sure what their called)
[05:05] <gmzlj> as some vendors do some sort of per operating support and linux gets neglected
[05:05] <gmzlj> lsv: tl;dr, your sol
[05:05] <atlee> is gnome 3 safe to install ubuntu 11.04 yet?
[05:05] <gmzlj> *you're
[05:06] <rww> atlee: no
[05:06] <lsv> gmzlj: Ok, thanks.  I'll tell im that.  (he dual boots ubuntu and windows)
[05:06] <atlee> damn :P
[05:06] <lsv> him*
[05:06] <gmzlj> np
[05:07] <lsv> .karma lsv
[05:07] <lsv> opps that doesn't work here...
[05:07] <gmzlj> upboat?
[05:09] <ddaydj|work> oh~ i got a different error! ubuntu installer was formatting the drive with gpt before, i manually formatted and partitioned it with mbr and now i'm getting a "not a bootable disk" error, instead of the "no bootable device"
[05:09] <gmzlj> ddaydj|work: do you have a bootloader on the disk?
[05:09] <gmzlj> ddaydj|work: have you tried reinstalling grub?
[05:10] <ddaydj|work> gmzlj: hmm, the installer might not have know where to put it
[05:10] <rmathews> I'm on Lucid. I had mercurial (hg) installed via apt, then I removed it, and installed it from source. Now when I say "which hg", bash says "/usr/local/bin/hg", but when I say "hg" bash says "-bash: /usr/bin/hg: No such file or directory" ... I'm not sure why I'm thinking that I have to fiddle with update-alternatives, but my question is how do I fix this?
[05:10] <Guest78689> hello
[05:10] <gmzlj> ddaydj|work: its what it sounds like
[05:10] <gmzlj> rmathews: when building mecurial
[05:10] <gmzlj> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[05:10] <ddaydj|work> gmzlj: have a link to how to install bootloader?
[05:10] <gmzlj> otherwise its /usr/local
[05:11] <rmathews> gmzlj: so it won't work from /usr/local ?
[05:11] <Guest78689> how do i get my user name from saying newbie?
[05:11] <rmathews> gmzlj: I'd rather have it in /usr/local, so that I could possibly go back to the version from apt
[05:11] <ddaydj|work> was using this earlier, but got stuck on a step halfway through :(
[05:11] <gmzlj> rmathews: you need to add /usr/local/bin to PATH
[05:11] <lsv> Guest78689:  type /nick new_name
[05:11] <gmzlj> ddaydj|work: google "ubuntu recover grub"
[05:12] <rmathews> PATH is /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games ...
[05:12] <gmzlj> ddaydj|work: you have to do it from the live cd
[05:12] <rmathews> I'm guessing that's why "which hg" worked
[05:12] <gmzlj> rmathews: so does mecurial work>?
[05:12] <gmzlj> lol, i didn't read
[05:12] <rmathews> no, when it complains that "-bash: /usr/bin/hg: No such file or directory"
[05:13] <gmzlj> rmathews: okay, so hg doesn't support being installed elsewhere :P
[05:13] <rmathews> gmzlj: uhm, yeah ... so is installing to /usr the only option
[05:13] <gmzlj> or
[05:13] <gmzlj> hack the source
[05:13] <gmzlj> grep -r . '/usr/bin/hg'
[05:13] <gmzlj> and change the offending lines
[05:14] <gmzlj> im betting its just hardcorded in a scripts
[05:14] <rmathews> gmzlj: the bash source? I'm not even sure why it's trying to run /usr/bin/hg when it doesn't exist..
[05:14] <gmzlj> it must be hardcoded somewhere
[05:14] <rmathews> gmzlj: good point, let me check, maybe an alias somewhere
[05:15] <Guest78689> lsv where do i type nick new name?
[05:15] <nightrid3r> rmathews hg = mercurial a software revision system like subversion ...
[05:15] <yyk> anyone can visit me to the channel #BackTrack-linux??     thanks
[05:15] <lsv> where you type to send messages
[05:15] <NielsMkn> hey guys
[05:16] <NielsMkn> when I try to use /dev/sdb, it gives permission denied
[05:16] <Mikazz> you must be root
[05:16] <rmathews> nightrid3r: yes, I had a merge problem so was trying to move to 1.9 ... the Lucid default is 1.4.3
[05:16] <NielsMkn> and if I try sudo /dev/sdb it says command not found :s
[05:16] <lsv> [/]nick new_name  <- with out the [ and ]
[05:16] <atlee> maybe you need sudo
[05:16] <stevr1it> hello, metacity does not work properly on my ubuntu 11.04, topday all the x to close a page dissapered, i reinstalled metaciy but with nor result, can you help me?
[05:16] <Mikazz> sdb is the block device you cant execute that
[05:16] <Guest78689> nick new_name
[05:16] <atlee> have you got sudo installed or was it accidently removed?
[05:16] <gmzlj> rmathews: try the mecurial ppa?
[05:16] <lsv> Guest78689: it has to start with the /
[05:16] <gmzlj> if you just need a more recent version
[05:17] <NielsMkn> erm I have sudo :o
[05:17] <lsv> Guest78689: and new_name is what you want to be called now
[05:17] <NielsMkn> how do I check if I have it though?
[05:17] <Guest78689> ok
[05:17] <rmathews> gmzlj: alright, I'll do that. thanks.
[05:17] <atlee> trying to access /dev/sdb through a virtual system or installed system?
[05:17] <gmzlj> https://launchpad.net/~mercurial-ppa/
[05:18] <NielsMkn> yup I can access it on windows
[05:18] <atlee> so virtual running it?
[05:18] <NielsMkn> ah no dual boot
[05:18] <pseubodot> alachiq: sorry, I have to go to bed now ... it's past 1 am here
[05:18] <atlee> try going to disk utility and mounting it?
[05:19] <NielsMkn> its already mounted
[05:19] <atlee> unmount it and remount and retry to access it
[05:20] <Pico> Hi, I need help. The Broadcom drivers I enabled never stay after I reboot. Afterwards it says that its "Activated but not in use".
[05:20] <balaji_> i have 2Gb of swap space which is allocated but not assigned. How to make that swap space active?
[05:20] <NielsMkn> did that atlee
[05:20] <yyk> hi guys ,can anyone visit me to the channel #BackTrack-linux??    thanks
[05:20] <gmzlj> balaji_: swapon command
[05:20] <NielsMkn> still says command not found :/
[05:22] <balaji_> gmzlj:thank you:)
[05:23] <atlee> NielsMkn, its a usb drive right?
[05:23] <NielsMkn> yup
[05:23] <NielsMkn> an external hard disk
[05:23] <atlee> NielsMkn, try a diff usb port?
[05:23] <NielsMkn> alright
[05:24] <balaji_> how to mount a ntfs partition in command line? i usually mount it by clicking on the explorer and then use it from /media/partitionname.
[05:24] <NielsMkn> still the same atlee
[05:24] <atlee> i think its mnt something something :P
[05:24] <atlee> mnt /media/nameofdrive i think
[05:25] <atlee> NielsMkn, have you tried another usb drive?
[05:25] <NielsMkn> erm nope
[05:25] <balaji_> atlee: only after i click on explorer the partition will come in /media..
[05:26] <atlee> NielsMkn, i know it's extra work but i'm trying to isolate a certain prob
[05:26] <Pico> Just wondering if anyone can help. The Broadcom drivers I enabled never stay after I reboot. After I reboot it says that its "Activated but not in use".
[05:27] <NielsMkn> Well I have a pendrive and that runs just fine, though its fat32
[05:27] <aradavis> balaji_: maybe you're looking for ntfs-3g .. example usage: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[05:27] <atlee> aradavis, thats it
[05:28] <atlee> create a dir using mkdir then mount to that dir
[05:28] <martinjh99> What is the package for the installed Natty kernel headers 2.6.38-generic ? Need to have them installed to install VBox Kernel modules...
[05:28] <NielsMkn> hmm should I edit fstab for that?
[05:28] <atlee> NielsMkn, FAT and NTFS should mount in ubuntu no problems
[05:29] <NielsMkn> well actually I want to give it full permissions
[05:29] <NielsMkn> for read, write, execute etc
[05:29] <atlee> NielsMkn, i have NTFS backup drive and i have full control, didnt have to do anything either
[05:30] <NielsMkn> strange, it doesn't allow me for some reason
[05:30] <NielsMkn> I can't even set files as executable by terminal or using nautilus
[05:31] <balaji_> aradavis: what is mount point? is it just a location to specify the partition (like a pointer)?
[05:31] <atlee> try the above, find out the /media/nameof drive and mount to a directory but do it using sudo command
[05:32] <atlee> NielsMkn, do this sudo mkdir /media/temp
[05:32] <NielsMkn> alright then
[05:32] <atlee> NielsMkn, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/temp
[05:32] <aradavis> balaji_: the mount point is a directory you want to mount the partition contents in. Generally using ntfs-3g you want to be root and have already created the mount point
[05:32] <atlee> sdb1 will reflect your drive
[05:33] <atlee> whatever the name
[05:33] <NielsMkn> ah yeah I did that in another way, edited fstab to mount at boot
[05:33] <NielsMkn> added this '/dev/sdb1 /media/MyBook ntfs rw,umask=0222 0 0'
[05:34] <NielsMkn> where MyBook is the folder I created to mount the drive
[05:34] <atlee> so MyBook exists?
[05:34] <NielsMkn> yup
[05:34] <NielsMkn> and now I am able to read from the drive and execute
[05:34] <NielsMkn> but it doesn't give permission to write :s
[05:34] <atlee> well try it within ubuntu if it mounts then maybe fstab thing has something incorrect?
[05:35] <atlee> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/MyBook see what it does
[05:36] <NielsMkn> done
[05:36] <NielsMkn> still only read :o
[05:37] <atlee> but it is mounting?
[05:37] <NielsMkn> yup
[05:37] <atlee> NielsMkn, how is your user permissions, have you fiddled with them?
[05:37] <NielsMkn> nope :o
[05:38] <NielsMkn> btw using ubuntu 10.10 here
[05:38] <alachiq> ** (xcdroast:20551): WARNING **: Failed to access cdrecord. Please check the permissions and ownership of /usr/bin/cdrecord
[05:38] <NielsMkn> ah fixed it! Had to set umask = 0000
[05:38] <bullgard4> What is the web address of the Ubuntu Developer Week next week?
[05:39] <NielsMkn> Thanks atlee :D
[05:39] <michael_brooklyn> anyone able to get out of low graphics mode in 11.04 with an Intel Series 4 integrated chipset?
[05:39] <rww> bullgard4: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[05:39] <alexleon> i want my water effect to starts with ubuntu
[05:39] <NielsMkn> water effect? :o
[05:39] <alexleon> how i do that? is it possible?
[05:40] <alexleon> yeah water effect :O
[05:40] <atlee> NielsMkn, was only trying to help, you found the fix :D
[05:40] <NielsMkn> erm what is that? :P
[05:40] <michael_brooklyn> xorg reconf from terminal gives no response,  nor does GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=1" change anything
[05:40] <DrShoggoth> alexleon, install ccsm
[05:40] <NielsMkn> hehe still atlee :D
[05:40] <DrShoggoth> and set it to a hotkey
[05:40] <alexleon> -.- niels thats a thing that mmm youtube it -.-
[05:41] <balaji_> NielsMkn,atlee: created a directory in /media, used this command ntfs-3g /dev/sdax /media/dir. it gets mounted :) Thank you
[05:41] <NielsMkn> lol checking :P
[05:41] <alexleon> drshoggoth ur nickname is long!!! nd i have ccsm but it doesnt have the option
[05:41] <bullgard4> rww: Thank you very much for your help.
[05:41] <atlee> my ntfs drives auto mount by themselves :P never had to change a thing and i can read and write
[05:42] <rww> !tab | alexleon
[05:42] <NielsMkn> wow thats cool atlee
[05:42] <NielsMkn> crap
[05:42] <balaji_> atlee: i missed "mount -t" in the command but it is mounted
[05:42] <alexleon> niels i know :D
[05:42] <NielsMkn> pressing tab does that shit I posted right now :/
[05:43] <ubu455> hello. i habe problems to change the language in ubuntu maverick. i tried with gnome-language-selector and chose english there, then i applied it system-wide but i still do not have english language. what can i do?
[05:43] <alexleon> umm will that make my water effect to start up with ubuntu? -.-
[05:45] <michael_brooklyn> Any advice for escaping low graphics mode in 11.04 on an Acer Aspire 5738z laptop?
[05:45] <alexleon> ??
[05:46] <alexleon> michael ubuntu lite
[05:46] <aradavis> alexleon: Do you mean the Compiz Water Effect? If so, do you have ccsm installed?
[05:46] <jocom> Hi! Is it possible to change color scheme in tty? I want to use solarized over there…
[05:46] <h00k> !language | NielsMkn
[05:46] <alexleon> aradavis yes
[05:46] <atlee> michael_brooklyn, do you have ati card or dual card ati and intel?
[05:46] <pp7> `
[05:47] <NielsMkn> oops sorry about that :/
[05:47] <alexleon> niels dont worry he is just a bot
[05:47] <michael_brooklyn> hi atlee: it's an intel dual core, Intel Series 4 integrated graphics chip
[05:47] <Sterist> is there an application that can route my ad-hoc wifi connection to ethernet?
[05:47] <NielsMkn> hehe
[05:48] <aradavis> alexleon: So what mode of the effect are you looking to have start automatically?
[05:48] <NielsMkn> ok need to go now
[05:48] <NielsMkn> later guys :)
[05:48] <atlee> cya
[05:48] <alexleon> aradavis water effect the rain thing
[05:48] <atlee> michael what gfx chip exactly?
[05:48] <alexleon> niels ill miss u
[05:48] <atlee> intel 915, 945, 950?
[05:50] <aradavis> alexleon: You could create a script to invoke the hotkey found in ccsm on login
[05:50] <michael_brooklyn> atlee: online specs says Intel GMA 4500M, lspci says Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[05:50] <alexleon> aradavis help me with that  :)
[05:56] <alexleon> mm
[05:56] <aradavis> alexleon: see http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/ and http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12577/how-to-execute-shortcut-keys-from-command-line
[05:56] <alexleon> ?
[05:56] <neutrino> hi, can I install 32 bit python in 64bit natty.
[05:57] <alexleon> ok
[05:57] <silv3r_m00n> to mount a partition at startup can I add this line to fstab >> UUID=9de0aab4-e64c-49c8-af55-cc7375a97dd6               /media/9de0aab4-e64c-49c8-af55-cc7375a97dd6               ext4    errors=remount-ro        0        1
[05:57] <silv3r_m00n> 9de0aab4-e64c-49c8-af55-cc7375a97dd6 is the UUID I got from blkid command
[06:01] <aradavis> silv3r_m00n: that entry should work.
[06:01] <MagusOTB> neutrino: What are you doing that it makes a difference?
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> silv3r_m00n, you will need to create the /media/9de0aab4-e64c-49c8-af55-cc7375a97dd6 directory.
[06:02] <silv3r_m00n> sure
[06:02] <neutrino> MagusOTB, I was trying to install Plone and getting some weird error. But i have tried the same installed in 32bit lucid and it worked like charm.
[06:02] <michael_brooklyn> atlee: any advice? I was going to try nomodeset in /etc/default/grub next
[06:03] <silv3r_m00n> btw I don't see any auto , rw , exec options in that line , it only has errors=remount-ro , why ? and what does it mean ?
[06:03] <MagusOTB> neutrino: what's the error? I can't imagine why something written in python would be architecture dependent
[06:04] <neutrino> MagusOTB, https://gist.github.com/1066612
[06:05] <neutrino> MagusOTB, I tried installing python 2.6 but the error persist.
[06:05] <aradavis> silv3r_m00n: those refer to the permissions used to mount the file system. 'errors=remount-ro' is used for safety.
[06:05] <MagusOTB> neutrino: what is that line doing?
[06:05] <silv3r_m00n> aradavis: and nothing of auto , exec ,rw is needed ?
[06:07] <aradavis> silv3r_m00n: only put those in if you explicitly want execute and read/write permissions.
[06:08] <silv3r_m00n> I just want it to be read-write and executable for all users
[06:08] <silv3r_m00n> that's all
[06:08] <silv3r_m00n> also I don't need to specify auto ? to mount it when computer starts ?
[06:09] <silv3r_m00n> what is the default by the way
[06:09] <toggles> 4/join #maemo
[06:09] <alexleon> can someone help me to write a script? :/ i think if i do it by myself ill do something wrong
[06:09] <aradavis> silv3r_m00n: Yes, you do. You would need to do auto,exec,rw
[06:10] <aradavis> silv3r_m00n: see http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html for details.
[06:10] <silv3r_m00n> thanks
[06:11] <silv3r_m00n> is this OK >> UUID=eba07f1f-b287-456a-b3d6-1c40d7b28a60 /media/eba07f1f-b287-456a-b3d6-1c40d7b28a60               ext4    errors=remount-ro,auto,exec,rw 0       0
[06:13] <syntaxx> hi this is not ubuntu specifics but anyone here who can suggest a tool/application for migrating microsoft communicator to linux with ldap support
[06:13] <aradavis> silv3r_m00n: That looks ok.
[06:13] <odix_> where can i find an ifconfig log, or better yet, all the ips my machine has had for the day? like in a log ?
[06:15] <oshekfeh1> Hello, I have a cctv monitoring software working under windows, I tried to run it using wine but the software unable to connect to the network, what can I do?
[06:15] <silv3r_m00n> aradavis: now when I click that partition in dolphin , it says on root can mount /dev/sda7 to /media/eba07f1f-b287-456a-b3d6-1c40d7b28a60
[06:15] <alexleon> its too complicated :(
[06:17] <silv3r_m00n> ok , added user to the options
[06:17] <silv3r_m00n> done
[06:17] <plum> Hi guys
[06:17] <macsimus> hi
[06:18] <plum> can someone please help me on how to select a desktop environment from terminal?
[06:18] <centHOGG> tasksel
[06:18] <centHOGG> or use apt-cache search for a de
[06:18] <macsimus> is there a way to use a nvidia 8400 gs with the nvidia drivers in 11.04 64 bits ?
[06:18] <plum> hmmmm, and will this display that desktop environment to a VNC?
[06:19] <plum> i am trying to change from a hosted Lxde to Xfce
[06:19] <centHOGG> sudo apt-cache search xfce
[06:19] <odix_> --wndwmanager or something
[06:19] <centHOGG> then sudo apt-get install kdfdjk
[06:19] <odix_> Xorg --wmanager 'gnome'
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> centHOGG, FYI apt-cache doesn't need sudo
[06:20] <oshekfeh1> Hello, I have a cctv monitoring software working under windows, I tried to run it using wine but the software unable to connect to the network, what can I do?
[06:23] <oshekfeh1> How can I configure network connection on wine?
[06:23] <ZykoticK9> oshekfeh1, you might want to try #winehq for specific wine support questions
[06:24] <oshekfeh1> Zykotick9: thank you
[06:24] <odix_> how can i see an old ip
[06:24] <michael_brooklyn> MichaelGPBK test
[06:25] <macsimus> is there a way to use a nvidia 8400 gs with the nvidia drivers in 11.04 64 bits ?
[06:26] <c_nick> How to install java on ubuntu
[06:26] <c_nick> java development kit
[06:27] <odix_> synaptick
[06:27] <macsimus> via synaptic
[06:27] <odix_> jre
[06:27] <ZykoticK9> !java | c_nick
[06:27] <odix_> jde
[06:27] <macsimus> jdk
[06:27] <odix_> oh =)
[06:27] <macsimus> :)
[06:28] <c_nick> ok thanks
[06:29] <odix_> where is some sort of log so i can see my wan ip my machine has had for the paste few hours or since reboot
[06:29] <odix_> all i can find is lan in /var/log
[06:29] <IceCold941> is Newbie ubuntus default user name?
[06:29] <wn1zid> why does my kernel stay the same since 2.6.35.22   even tho there have been updates, it stays the same, how to fix ??
[06:30] <ZykoticK9> IceCold941, no, there is no default username - it has to be entered during install.  Why don't you just ask your friend what the password is?
[06:31] <IceCold941> we only work together seasonal.. wont see him till nov.
[06:31] <IcemanV9> wn1zid: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (will update the kernel)
[06:31] <xoxogen77> ls
[06:31] <ZykoticK9> IceCold941, also, ubuntu doesn't use the "root" account
[06:31] <wn1zid> IcemanV9  i don't want natty
[06:32] <dr_willis> wn1zid:  that wont upgrade to the next release
[06:32] <IcemanV9> wn1zid:  it won't upgrade to natty; just your current release.
[06:32] <dr_willis> its just a more intense update
[06:32] <Dickmaster> I get spammed with errors when I run wubi, "Exception processing message 0x0000013 Parameters 0x764892A0 0x00000004 0x764892A0 0x764892A0"
[06:33] <wn1zid> IcemanV9  i'm on 10.10  what would that do
[06:33] <michael_brooklyn> Any advice on how to get out of low graphics mode with an Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) on 11.04 Natty?
[06:33] <IcemanV9> wn1zid:  it'll update packages PLUS kernel. that's all. you'll see it before you answer Y or N
[06:34] <wn1zid> ok, ill try that
[06:34] <wn1zid> thanks man
[06:34] <IcemanV9> wn1zid:  np
[06:35] <wn1zid> lol, o to be added
[06:35] <wn1zid> heres the deal IcemanV9
[06:36] <dr_willis> you did update befor upgradeing?
[06:36] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get update
[06:36] <wn1zid> i have kubuntu 10.10 and ubuntu 10.10, i upgraded the kernel in kubuntu to 2.6.38.8 and it works flawlessly, i went to do it to ubuntu and it doesn't  show in grub, it stays at 2.6.35.22
[06:37] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:37] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:37] <issabella> sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:37] <wn1zid> me issabella  ?
[06:37] <IcemanV9> wn1zid: did you do as dr_willis just suggested?
[06:38] <dr_willis> no need for gparted wn1zid
[06:38] <wn1zid> i missed what he said
[06:39] <dr_willis> you have a system with 2 ubuntu installs? both 10.10?
[06:39] <wn1zid> ya
[06:39] <dr_willis> why?
[06:39] <wn1zid> i was learning with 1 and keeping the other to use and not break
[06:39] <dr_willis> install kubuntu-desktop and pick the de to use at login
[06:39] <Scribbled2x> ctcp version Scribbled2x
[06:40] <kierge> i have an application that does not minimize when i click minimize button in unity its launched instance does not dock to unity please help
[06:40] <dr_willis> or install ubuntu-desktop on the other one.
[06:40] <wn1zid> lol, the one that took 2.6.38 has both and it worked
[06:40] <dr_willis> your grub setups may be fighting or confused. may be the whole issue
[06:40] <wn1zid> thats my point how can i fix that
[06:41] <dr_willis> no idea . i find it pointless to have 2 identical installs. ;)
[06:41] <wn1zid> i just explained why
[06:42] <kierge> i have an application not minimizing to the unity dock
[06:42] <dr_willis> and i find the reason invalid. basically.
[06:42] <wn1zid> i would say thats pretty smart being you could learn on one and keep one in tact.
[06:43] <Scribbled2x> Hmm - heh, sooo what are the odds someone in here is familiar with IRSSI?  For example, how do I pass commands to the client such as 'help' so that I can learn the command keys
[06:43] <wildgoose> you might learn more if you have to fix what you break
[06:43] <dr_willis> could be one is installing grub to the wrong place when it updates grub. youmay need to boot to the other install and also run update-grub when the second one gets its kernel updated
[06:43] <rww> Scribbled2x: #irssi is familiar with irssi :P
[06:43] <Scribbled2x> probably moreso than me
[06:44] <wn1zid> good idea dr
[06:44] <dr_willis> irssi has some good docs at its homepage aalso
[06:44] <wn1zid> and wildgoose  thats how i'm learning while still having the other in tact
[06:44] <Scribbled2x> dr_willis thanks - text based version so it kinda slipped my mind, but I got lucky and installed lynx
[06:44] <dr_willis> wn1zid:  for every kernel update you will need to boot both os's and try update-grub on both.
[06:45] <wn1zid> i have
[06:45] <wn1zid> see, thats the problem, even if there is a kernel update on the 2.6.35 it still wont take
[06:45] <wildgoose> wn1zid, I understand, I installed a PAE kernel awhile ago and it took a couple reboots to sort itself out, not sure why.
[06:46] <wn1zid> weird
[06:46] <dr_willis> if each install was on its own hd - it would be simpiler.
[06:46] <wn1zid> that 2.6.38 works great, and its fast on the #2 setup
[06:46] <dr_willis> if you kept each ones grub on the right hd
[06:47] <wn1zid> but this one with 2.6.35 (ubuntu) wont even upgrade even if i upgrade it 1rst
[06:47] <wildgoose> or have a separate partition for MBR?
[06:47] <wn1zid> interesting
[06:48] <dr_willis> wildgoose:  that can get complex ;)
[06:48] <thezanke> Can anyone help, I have an alienware m9750 and getting ubuntu running was hard enough thanks to the new defualt drivers for nvidia.. but now my sound wont work... I had sound but couldn't get it to go headphones only so tried a fix online and now I have no sound hardware showing and alsamixer said command not found...
[06:48] <dr_willis> not sure if os-prober wouls catch that
[06:48] <mr_gant> Any ideas on how to enable sloppy ffm in 11.04, classic mode? Tried setting /apps/metacity/general/focus_mode to 'sloppy' with gconf-editor, but appears to be ignored. Using compiz might be the cause of the problem, though not sure how to turn that off anymore.
[06:48] <wn1zid> but  wait, in the kubuntu it still kept the old kernel in grub, and no matter the update in ubuntu it stays the same, no other kernel listed
[06:48] <whowantstolivefo> hi people, i am ubuntu user. i can connect to ubuntu clients in my network via rdp, but i need to connect to some xp clients in network also, i downloaded tightvnc to xp client. i installed tightvnc viewer part of program, when i try to connect xp from my ubuntu, it doesnt connect. what can be wrong ?
[06:49] <dr_willis> whowantstolivefo:  you did run tightvnc?
[06:50] <wn1zid> lemme ask this, can i re-install grub without trashing anything ?
[06:50] <dr_willis> or just using the client not the server?
[06:50] <Bruce_Wayne> I'm not able to run the scripts of devil's pie.. has anyone used devilspie here before?
[06:50]  * Scribbled2x thinks its time to make the doughnuts
[06:50] <dr_willis> wn1zid:  should  be able to
[06:50]  * wn1zid steals the doughnuts
[06:50] <whowantstolivefo> dr_willis:  i run program in xp. it works at viewer mode. but i cant connect to xp from my ubuntu.
[06:50] <dr_willis> whowantstolivefo:  also check for firewalls
[06:51] <whowantstolivefo> there is no firewall yet on network, i didnt figure firewall now, i will soon
[06:51] <dr_willis> vncserver on xp. viewer on linux. watch for firewalls    in windows setup.
[06:51] <wn1zid> hey, maybe kubuntu some how took front runner in these transactions ?, if so, how could it be switched.
[06:52] <dr_willis> this is all over a local lan?
[06:52] <whowantstolivefo> dr_willis: yes this is in all local lan
[06:52] <dr_willis> wn1zid:     which did you install last?
[06:52]  * MichaelGPBK has the Low Graphics Mode Blues
[06:52] <wn1zid> kubuntu
[06:52] <mo> Hi
[06:52] <wn1zid> see my point ?
[06:53] <dr_willis> wn1zid:  so kubuntu shiuld   be the one keeping grub updated i think
[06:53] <wn1zid> thats it, i thought so, could i change that ?
[06:53] <MichaelGPBK> Hi gary_inNYC I'm also in the 5 Boroughs
[06:53] <centHOGG> queens
[06:53] <dr_willis> update-grub on the ubuntu box may not be installing to the right place i at all.
[06:53] <gary_inNYC> hi
[06:53] <wn1zid> exactly
[06:54] <wn1zid> your nailing it, keep coming
[06:54] <dr_willis> time to read up on grub a bit.  it may be os-prober is not doing its job right
[06:54] <wildgoose> wn1zid, That was my next idea, manually edit your grub
[06:54] <wn1zid> ya
[06:54] <wn1zid> i just don't want to break it
[06:55] <dr_willis> or try sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[06:55] <dr_willis> break it.. fix it..
[06:55] <wildgoose> back it up first
[06:55] <wn1zid> nice maybe ill try that 1 dr, thx
[06:55] <wn1zid> ya
[06:55] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[06:55] <wn1zid> ok, thanks guys
[06:55] <dr_willis> put a rescue grub on a flashdrive. ;)
[06:56] <wn1zid> good point
[06:56] <wn1zid> i just happen to have 1
[06:57] <alexleon> ppl write me a scrip that simulates shift+f9
[06:58] <Lasers> alexleon: $ echo "exit 0" > script.sh
[06:58] <gary_inNYC> is it possible to have compiz effects on when you have an extended monitor set up?
[06:59] <dr_willis> gary_inNYC:  its work foe my nvidia setups yes.
[06:59] <gary_inNYC> cool thx
[06:59] <minimec> gary_inNYC: normally yes.
[06:59] <alexleon> laser thx
[06:59] <whowantstolivefo> dr_willis: when i close firewall of xp, this allowed me to get in, thanks
[06:59] <dr_willis> unity hs issues with multi-monitor setups
[07:00] <wildgoose> whowantstolivefo, Just poke a hole for the port you need.
[07:00] <dr_willis> whowantstolivefo:  ;)  i always disable that silly thing
[07:00] <wildgoose> ohno
[07:00] <whowantstolivefo> wildgoose: i will not touch this, i will kick all xp computers in network soon, and take them ubuntu also
[07:00] <dr_willis> behind a router.  i dont need it.
[07:01] <alexleon> laser now idk what to do with that
[07:01] <alexleon> o.O
[07:01] <wn1zid> ill tell you what tho, the other kubuntu which i put ubuntu-desktop on and updated to kernel 2.6.38.8 natties last one sure works fast and nice, hopefully i van do it to this old horse kernel.
[07:01] <wildgoose> whowantstolivefo, Good move
[07:02] <dr_willis> whowantstolivefo:  for an all linux network, or even now. check out ssh and x forwarding. and xming on windows
[07:02] <dr_willis> ive never noticed mush differance in kernel updates.  just bug fixs mainly
[07:02] <wn1zid> ya
[07:03] <wn1zid> freeze fix's
[07:03] <whowantstolivefo> wildgoose:  we are creating office, we have total 60 computer and before createing office we research about pricing xp , xp server, active directory, office softwares etc, it was going to cost 45.000 $ , but now i didnt pay any, only we pay 10 xp licence for this year, nothing else
[07:03] <nikolam> if Network manager deletes mobile broadband connection if "for all users" is selected on 10.04LTS Xubuntu 64bit, should bug be reported under "network-manager" package?
[07:03] <macsimus> anyone having a nvidia 8400 gs working well in 11.04 64 bits with the proprietary drivers ??
[07:03] <Lasers> $45,000K? Wow. :o
[07:04] <macsimus> or just working.. :)
[07:04] <dr_willis> they still sell xp? ;)
[07:04] <whowantstolivefo> Lasers:  yes, even if we use active directory, how many computer will connect to server ? we will pay extra money for network pc`s using active directory from firewall, this is fuckin bullsh*t
[07:04] <Lasers> Suckers. :\
[07:04] <centHOGG> windows only 95% of the enterprise market
[07:04] <wildgoose> whowantstolivefo, Nice, and as dr_willis  said, ssh + X might work better for you.
[07:05] <nikolam> centHOGG, on desktop
[07:05] <centHOGG> thats why linux on the desktop cracks me up
[07:05] <whowantstolivefo> i hate microsoft, if they sell good price, i would understand, 200$ for only licence, 235$ office licence, 1500 only 1 server 2008 licence, etc etc etc, if we go toilet, we will pay for this also
[07:05] <Lasers> whowantstolivefo: You want to find somebody who have experiences with this matters. It's not me. Sorry.
[07:05] <dr_willis> 'enterprise' often seems to just mean 'lots of word processing'
[07:05] <whowantstolivefo> ssh + x ? i am newbie, i use 4 months linux.
[07:06] <dr_willis> !ssh | whowantstolivefo
[07:06] <dr_willis> whowantstolivefo:  run single linux app or more. have it appear in window on xp desktop
[07:06] <nikolam> whowantstolivefo, "best" thing about Windblows is that, for that kind of money one will not get Any actuall support from vendor. While fro Unix=like systems, one actually buys Support.
[07:07] <dr_willis> whowantstolivefo:  thats a ssh+xming trick :0
[07:07] <quentusrex_> I'm getting an issue where my Asus K50AB is playing audio out both headphones and speakers when the headphones are plugged in. Any ideas. Here is the info output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3859ca8c2341860c1b5169bd232e1ea1078df0eb
[07:08] <jragon> Hi!
[07:09] <ugly_duck> i have to say that after running gnome, then switching to kde, gnome rocks it out now and kde blows
[07:09] <jragon> How can I use mmv to rename all .JPG files to .jpg?
[07:09] <whowantstolivefo> nikolam: yes, if we pay for support i can get it, but for not support ( only support.microsoft.com ) maybe people pay this much money eh ? :)
[07:10] <ugly_duck> http://php.net/manual/en/function.rename.php
[07:10] <quentusrex_> jragon, mmv ?
[07:10] <dr_willis> qmv
[07:10] <jragon> http://linux.die.net/man/1/mmv
[07:11] <dr_willis> theres dozens of examples ive sen to rename .JPg to .jpg or other extension fixs
[07:11] <whowantstolivefo> guys, do u suggest me any software close features http://www.netsupportmanager.com/features.asp this app ? in linux ? i can manage and control my network, chat with client, can watch in visible mode etc.  ?
[07:11] <quentusrex_> jragon, google for the command 'rename'
[07:11] <dr_willis> proberly 100 ways to do it. ;)
[07:11] <quentusrex_> like dr_willis said there are tons of good examples.
[07:11] <quentusrex_> Now, anyone familiar with Alsa?
[07:11] <dr_willis> i tendto use 'qmv'
[07:11] <norbi> hi guys, can you please help me with ip config to open a port?
[07:12] <quentusrex_> norbi, why do you want to open a port?
[07:12] <norbi> to wake up un lan
[07:12] <dr_willis> ipconfig dosent open ports:  iptables can block them
[07:12] <norbi> i need port 9
[07:12] <wn1zid> heh, does this look right?    http://pastebin.com/keemBDPE
[07:12] <norbi> iptables sorry
[07:12] <norbi> i meant iptables
[07:12] <quentusrex_> norbi, google for ufw and open port
[07:13] <wildgoose> !ufw | norbi
[07:13] <dr_willis> but wake on lan. hmm.. i thought that was hardware triggered
[07:13] <rww> dr_willis: it is
[07:13] <norbi> yea i know, but i have 2 ethernets
[07:13] <quentusrex_> on the community page for ufw there are plenty of good examples.
[07:13] <dr_willis> !wol
[07:13] <wildgoose> bios setting?
[07:13] <quentusrex_> dr_willis, wake on lan is hardware triggered.
[07:13] <wn1zid> ya bios
[07:13] <nikolam> wildgoose, is it better to use firestarter?
[07:13] <norbi> 1 for internet IN and 1 for internet out
[07:13] <norbi> the second goes into a router
[07:13] <dr_willis> quentusrex:  never have gotten it to work.  ;)
[07:13] <wildgoose> nikolam, Whatever your flavour, right?
[07:13] <quentusrex_> norbi, your network card has to support wake on lan, and so does your bios.
[07:14] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:14] <norbi> so i have 3 ip addressez, the internet ip of the server and 2 internat network ip and i cant figure out how to do that
[07:14] <wn1zid> party pooper
[07:14] <quentusrex_> dr_willis, I have it working on 50+ machines. but I use a specific network card that I trust.
[07:14] <norbi> quentysrex: it does, the one in the network, but i need to forward the magic packet ti it
[07:14] <jragon> ls -d *.JPG | sed 's/\(.*\).JPG$/sed "s\/\\.JPG\/.jpg\/g" "&" > \1.jpg' | sh
[07:14] <quentusrex_> norbi, use the tab key to autocomplete a username.
[07:14] <jragon> Would that work?
[07:15] <norbi> quentusrex: ok, thanks
[07:15] <wn1zid> hey jragon  fix my grub
[07:15] <wn1zid> lol
[07:15] <jragon> wn1zid: What?
[07:15] <quentusrex_> jragon, that looks like it could work. but really just google for 'rename files with linux rename'
[07:15] <wn1zid> you look like you know linux pretty good
[07:15] <norbi> quentusrex: so my problem is not the WOL, because in the internal network i tried and it works
[07:16] <jragon> wn1zid: Heh, nope...
[07:16] <norbi> i need to open that port for the internet
[07:16] <nikolam> wildgoose, thing is, that GUI for setting firewall and ip forwarding and sharing and icmp filtering etc, effectively stopped me from learning it setting it manually. I just lost interest to learn, when with GUI it was "just working" with firestarter (suppose same is with ufw)
[07:16] <quentusrex_> norbi, you don't want wake on lan open and supported to the internet.
[07:16] <quentusrex_> because your provider is most likely to block that feature.
[07:16] <norbi> why?
[07:17] <jragon> quentusrex_: Ok...
[07:17] <quentusrex_> why not?
[07:17] <wn1zid> didn't know they would block it
[07:17] <quentusrex_> wn1zid, most providers block many ports below 1024
[07:17] <norbi> its not blocked
[07:17] <quentusrex_> norbi, then your network card on the public side doesn't support it.
[07:18] <quentusrex_> you might need to assign a different card to the public side norbi
[07:18] <norbi> but why it should support it, it just need to forward the packet, it is opened always
[07:18] <norbi> the router and the public side network adapter is powered on allways
[07:19] <quentusrex_> norbi, you mean you want to have NAT handle the WOL packet?
[07:19] <quentusrex_> and have NAT forward the WOL packet to another machine on the network?
[07:19] <norbi> it just needs to forward it to the internal computer with the port open and the mac address given
[07:19] <norbi> NAT?
[07:19] <quentusrex_> norbi, have you checked to make sure the packet is getting to the public side of the router?
[07:20] <quentusrex_> Network Address Translation.
[07:20] <stinkyj> quick question: i am trying to install the 11.04 server edition on an older macbook, one with the weird EFI problem where the CDs won't boot. there are a few '-mac' ISOs available on the infrequently used CDs page, but not the server one. how can i use the alternative installer cd (-mac) to accomplish this?
[07:20] <norbi> ah
[07:20] <wn1zid> now, how am i supposed to read german :   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Fallback%20mode
[07:20] <norbi> i dunno how to check if the packet arrives to the public side...
[07:20] <wn1zid> this is 2 funny
[07:20] <quentusrex_> norbi, you need to search for how to do a packet capture.
[07:20] <wildgoose> nikolam, Yes, or using gufw puts a GUI on ufw.
[07:21] <norbi> wn1zid: i did observed that much of help and tuts about the new ubuntu is in german
[07:21] <wn1zid> wow
[07:21] <wn1zid> well, i'm a country bot/radio tech, thats about it
[07:21] <wn1zid> boy*
[07:21] <norbi> quentusrex_: ok, i will, but first can you tell me how to open that port, to make sure its opened?
[07:22] <quentusrex_> norbi, no. Go learn how to do a packet capture.
[07:22] <quentusrex_> norbi, there is no way to tell if the port is open currently or not until you learn how to do a packet capture.
[07:22] <jyfl987> i am sorry to bore you, but i have problem that the cron service is running normally while my cron job wont be trigger at the time, i searched on forum but found nothing helps so i came here asking for help
[07:22] <quentusrex_> jyfl987, do you see any output in /var/log/syslog ?
[07:23] <wildbat> norbi: just setup port forward then ~ unless your router in running ubuntu .... or why ask here?
[07:23] <jyfl987> quentusrex_: will check that ,wait a seconds
[07:23] <norbi> quentusrex_: so i need a packet sniffer on the public side, if it catches the packet, then i need to do NAT?
[07:24] <quentusrex_> norbi, you need to do a packet capture with either wireshark, or tcpdump. Then use wireshark to locate your packet.
[07:24] <norbi> wildbat: because before the router is a machine, that runs ubuntu, after the NAT is a router
[07:24] <quentusrex_> if you see it then you know you have to deal with NAT, if you don't you have to deal with your ISP.
[07:24] <jyfl987> quentusrex_: found the log output normally
[07:25] <quentusrex_> jyfl987, try another cron command that echo's to a file. then check for the file.
[07:25] <quentusrex_> see if cron is running that command properly, if it is then it is your script. if not then it is your entry, or it is cron.
[07:25] <thezanke_> Ubuntu GUI is telling me I have no audio hardware but lshw is telling me "        *-multimedia UNCLAIMED
[07:25] <thezanke_>              description: Audio device
[07:25] <thezanke_>              product: N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
[07:25] <thezanke_> "
[07:25] <FloodBot1> thezanke_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:26] <Sterist> is there an application that can route my ad-hoc wifi connection my ethernet port as a host?
[07:26] <thezanke_> i didnt know it was gonna be multiline, sry
[07:26] <jyfl987> quentusrex_: ok will try it, thx first
[07:26] <quentusrex_> jyfl987, you're welcome.
[07:26] <quentusrex_> Sterist, you want to share your wifi connection over your ethernet connection?
[07:27] <Sterist> quentusrex_ yes thats exactly what i want to do
[07:27] <quentusrex_> Sterist, if so then google for 'network manager network connection sharing'
[07:27] <quentusrex_> Sterist, that should give you a good start on how to do it.
[07:27] <wildbat> norbi: then why don't you just ssh in the ubuntu and have it issue wol~
[07:27] <quentusrex_> norbi, wildbat's idea is a much better one.
[07:28] <norbi> quentusrex_: over ssh i´ve installed wireshark, i have yet no idea how to use it
[07:28] <stinkyj> quick question: i am trying to install the 11.04 server edition on an older macbook, one with the weird EFI problem where the CDs won't boot. there are a few '-mac' ISOs available on the infrequently used CDs page, but not the server one. how can i use the alternative installer cd (-mac) to accomplish this?
[07:28] <norbi> wildbat: what do you mean?
[07:28] <quentusrex_> norbi, but you still need to learn how to do a packet capture.
[07:28] <norbi> quentusrex_: i will:D
[07:28] <quentusrex_> norbi, the command line version of wireshark is tshark. Google for how to do a 'tshark packet capture on eth0'
[07:28] <shaibn> Hello :) I'm not quite sure about how sysstat's sdac options of count and interval work exactly ... if I have a cron that runs every minute and my count is 2 and interval is 120, what would it do exactly?
[07:29] <Sterist> quentusrex_ is it for ubuntu?
[07:29] <jyfl987> quentusrex_: it works , dont know why my script wont work, it can work by manual
[07:29] <quentusrex_> Sterist, yes, network manager is the graphical interface that makes network connections simple for users to manage in Ubuntu.
[07:29] <wildbat> norbi: i mean "ssh <the ubuntu-ip>  wakeonlan babababababa"
[07:30] <quentusrex_> jyfl987, what works?
[07:31] <fawkehu> hi
[07:32] <DANYAL> any one there
[07:32] <DANYAL> ?
[07:32] <DANYAL> for help
[07:32] <quentusrex_> DANYAL, just ask your question.
[07:32] <jyfl987> quentusrex_: my script , its a service daemon
[07:33] <stinkyj> can someone tell me if i can use this special +mac alternate install CD to do a server only install, just like with the regular server install CD?
[07:34] <DANYAL> which ubuntu version is better for vps
[07:34] <DANYAL> ?
[07:34] <quentusrex_> stinkyj, you can install with what ever CD works. then install the correct kernel if you want.
[07:34] <quentusrex_> stinkyj, for the most part the desktop or alternate iso works just fine for converting a laptop to a server.
[07:34] <norbi> quentusrex_: now if i will do this: tshark -f "udp port 9" -i eth0 -w /tmp/capture.cap
[07:34] <quentusrex_> DANYAL, a virtual private server?
[07:35] <norbi> it will capture in the capture.cap
[07:35] <DANYAL> quentusrex YEP
[07:35] <quentusrex_> norbi, yes, that will work just perfectly.
[07:35] <stinkyj> quentusrex_: you understand what i'm getting at though, there is no special +mac server edition for the older macbooks with the funky EFI boot thing?
[07:35] <quentusrex_> DANYAL, 11.04 server edition works fine.
[07:35] <quentusrex_> stinkyj, I'm not familiar with installing on macs
[07:36] <DANYAL> OK
[07:36] <quentusrex_> stinkyj, but I do know that if you can get 'something' to install you can usually get to what ever config you want.
[07:36] <norbi> then to find out what happens on that port? i need to do this: tshark -r /tmp/capture.cap
[07:36] <quentusrex_> norbi, that could work, or you could copy the file to your desktop and open it with wireshark.
[07:36] <stinkyj> quentusrex_: i have the alternate+mac one on the way, and i'm hoping to just wind up with a very basic no gui/desktop system for playing with KVM and such
[07:36] <quentusrex_> you will be able to more easily look through the capture then.
[07:37] <stinkyj> quentusrex_: and thanks
[07:37] <norbi> quentusrex
[07:37] <norbi> ohh, sry
[07:37] <quentusrex_> stinkyj, welcome. and good luck.
[07:37] <norbi> quentusrex_: i cant use desktop, because i dont have one
[07:38] <quentusrex_> norbi, you don't have another laptop or desktop running any Operating System?
[07:38] <norbi> i have windows
[07:38] <quentusrex_> norbi, wireshark can run on windows.
[07:38] <norbi> ah, ok. thanks
[07:38] <norbi> :)
[07:38] <quentusrex_> norbi, being able to get a packet capture, and being able to look at it in wireshark will help you out tons in the future.
[07:39] <quentusrex_> and being able to send a packet capture to someone who is trying to help you diagnose an issue is also very helpful.
[07:39] <quentusrex_> I would advise trying to get familiar with both tshark for reading the capture, and for reading it in wireshark.
[07:40] <norbi> yea :D
[07:41] <norbi> quentusrex_: i agree
[07:41] <norbi> and thanks for these infos
[07:41] <quentusrex_> norbi, you are welcome.
[07:41] <norbi> now the capturing is started
[07:41] <norbi> what can i do now, i need to open another ssh?
[07:41] <purplefool> lately my computer video output has been freezing up when watching in full screen.  i can control-alt-f1 into the terminal, but then have to reboot.  is there a way to restart the gui from terminal? what is the command for that?
[07:41] <quentusrex_> norbi, also, you need to take a look at the OSI model. I'm pretty sure that wake on lan packets are filtered out unless you are on the local network.
[07:43] <quentusrex_> norbi, this would be because the wakeonlan does not support ip routing, only mac routing. Which means the packet is stuck on the local network.
[07:43] <norbi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
[07:43] <DANYAL> From Where i Get procedure of Ubuntu Configuration
[07:43] <DANYAL> ?
[07:43] <ikonia> DANYAL: doe what ?
[07:43] <norbi> interesting, nver heard about this
[07:44] <norbi> *never
[07:44] <yeshuah> is it possible to set default ownership and permission recursively on a folder - eg. so no matter which user creates a file in this folder it will have same ownership and permissions?
[07:44] <quentusrex_> norbi, a mac address is used on the datalink layer.
[07:44] <DANYAL> ikonia only i install UBuntu on vps now what can i do
[07:44] <DANYAL> ?
[07:44] <ikonia> yeshuah: look at setuid and setguid
[07:44] <ikonia> DANYAL: what do you want to do ?
[07:44] <DANYAL> ikonia complete installation guide
[07:44] <ikonia> DANYAL: if you are new to Ubuntu, it's worth having a read of https://help.ubuntu.com as an introduction to Ubuntu
[07:44] <DANYAL> hmm
[07:45] <DANYAL> Ty
[07:45] <norbi> hmm. lot of info here, and lot to learn, i didn known much about these things
[07:45] <yeshuah> ikonia: thx
[07:45] <quentusrex_> norbi, one of the great things about the osi model is that you don't have to know how the lower layers work, until something breaks.
[07:45] <norbi> quentusrex_: capturing is real time until i will stop it?
[07:45] <quentusrex_> norbi, yes.
[07:46] <quentusrex_> norbi, ctrl+c will stop the capture, then you can read it, or copy it somewhere else to read it.
[07:47] <norbi> i have opened another ssh to operate while it is opened
[07:47] <norbi> or capturing
[07:47] <quentusrex_> norbi, that is a good idea. Also look into how to background tasks.
[07:47] <zgr> hey guys
[07:47] <quentusrex_> with ctrl+z and bring then back with the command 'fg'
[07:48] <zgr> I've ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop
[07:48] <zgr> it's not waking up after sleep
[07:48] <quentusrex_> I'm getting an issue where my Asus K50AB is playing audio out both headphones and speakers when the headphones are plugged in. Any ideas. Here is the info output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3859ca8c2341860c1b5169bd232e1ea1078df0eb
[07:48] <spiekey> Hello!
[07:48] <norbi> quentusrex_: thanks man! appreciate the lot of help!
[07:48] <quentusrex_> zgr, not waking how? what happens when you try to wake it after it is put to sleep?
[07:48] <norbi> great infos
[07:48] <quentusrex_> norbi, you're welcome.
[07:48] <spiekey> i have trouble setting my PIN on my USB UMTS Stick (it work on Windows). Where do i start debugging it?
[07:49] <purplefool> lately my computer video output has been freezing up when watching in full screen.  i can control-alt-f1 into the terminal, but then have to reboot.  is there a way to restart the gui from terminal? what is the command for that?
[07:49] <ikonia> spiekey: setting the pin ?
[07:49] <spiekey> ikonia, i get an pin error when i try to dial in with the network manager
[07:49] <quentusrex_> purplefool, when you ctrl+alt+f1 you can then issue the command: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:49] <zgr> quentusrex_: nothing happens display is off, i pressed all buttons including power nothing happend, restarted gdm via ssh, still display is oof
[07:49] <ikonia> spiekey: I've never seen a "pin" required, how did you set the pin in Linux ?
[07:49] <quentusrex_> zgr, sounds like you need to file a bug against the graphics driver.
[07:50] <quentusrex_> purplefool, then once restarted you can either switch back or type: startx
[07:50] <jyfl987> quentusrex_:   i wrote another script in python which just wrote the current time to an log file,  while adding it to the crontab, it shows that crontab called it at the time, but it seems it dont works  as that i run it by manual,  i have chmod +x to the script, so what's the problem??
[07:50] <spiekey> ikonia, it asks for it in the setting screen...
[07:50] <norbi> quentusrex_: ok, now im trying to send the magic packet to the  ip over internet
[07:50] <ikonia> spiekey: what settings screen ?
[07:50] <norbi> the public ip is something 89.66.xx.xx
[07:51] <purplefool> quentusrex, thx for the answer...will try that!
[07:51] <ikonia> spiekey: I'm trying to understand what application you are using to connect with and where you are putting the pin
[07:51] <norbi> the configured subnet on network is 255.255.255.224
[07:51] <spiekey> ikonia, the network manager...
[07:51] <quentusrex_> purplefool, it sounds like you might want to file a bug report against your graphics driver as well.
[07:51] <ikonia> spiekey: I don't see a "pin" option on mine
[07:52] <norbi> so how should i send the magic packet?  89.66.xx.xx, 255.255.255.224, mac, udp 9
[07:52] <quentusrex_> spiekey, is this for dialup connection?
[07:52] <norbi> ?
[07:52] <norbi> this should work?
[07:52] <quentusrex_> norbi, give that a try.
[07:52] <purplefool> quentusrex, not sure if the driver has a prob or if i just need to do a clean install.  if i can get back into the gui, i should be able to take a look around first.
[07:52] <quentusrex_> see if your capture finds it.
[07:52] <Sterist> quentusrex_ would this part require reverting to return to standard networking: After connecting the router, to enable masquerading, type: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE
[07:53] <quentusrex_> Sterist, sorry, I have no idea. I use pfsense as a router, and so I don't deal with iptables handling nat manually.
[07:53] <norbi> quentusrex_: after that i should stop the capturing and copy the file ?
[07:54] <quentusrex_> norbi, yes
[07:54] <norbi> with ctrl+z it will stop then, right? i know that this is spoiling, so im soryy
[07:54] <norbi> *sorry
[07:54] <quentusrex_> norbi, ctrl+z does not stop it. it backgrounds it.
[07:54] <quentusrex_> ctrl+c stops it.
[07:55] <norbi> ah yes
[07:55] <norbi> ctrl+c i was using just mistyped
[07:56] <norbi> nothing in the file at all, opened it first with vi /tmp/capture.cap
[07:56] <herkupus> norbi: tcpdump .cap files are binary. you cannot edit them in a text editor.
[07:57] <quentusrex_> norbi, herkupus is right. you need to use a pcap reader to view a packet capture.
[07:57] <quentusrex_> norbi, but if the file was empty then it means it captured nothing.
[07:57] <norbi> so that is normal if there is nothing in the file?
[07:58] <quentusrex_> norbi, if there was nothing in the file, then the packet never made it.
[07:58] <herkupus> norbi: is it really empty? check with   ls -l /tmp/capture.cap
[07:58] <norbi> it has a length of few rows but nothing written on them
[07:58] <herkupus> norbi: once again, you cannot view this as a text file
[07:58] <norbi> thanks herkupus
[07:59] <quentusrex_> I'm getting an issue where my Asus K50AB is playing audio out both headphones and speakers when the headphones are plugged in. Any ideas. Here is the info output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3859ca8c2341860c1b5169bd232e1ea1078df0eb
[07:59] <norbi> ls -l /tmp/capture.cap
[07:59] <norbi> -rw------- 1 root root 24 2011-07-07 10:57 /tmp/capture.cap
[07:59] <herkupus> norbi: you can display .cap file with tcpdump itself or with wireshark
[08:00] <herkupus> norbi: okay, 24 bytes is very short. maybe that's only the .cap header and no captured packets.
[08:00] <norbi> herkupus: i have wireshark on my pc, but dunno how to get the file from that server to mine
[08:00] <herkupus> norbi: scp?
[08:00] <norbi> scp? let me check it out
[08:01] <herkupus> norbi: if you can login to your server with ssh, you can also transfer file from/to it with scp.
[08:01] <quentusrex_> norbi, from windows to a linux machine you will want to look into putty and sftp
[08:02] <norbi> scp /tmp/capture.tmp capture.tmp
[08:02] <norbi> that will place the file where putty exe is?
[08:02] <herkupus> norbi: no
[08:02] <herkupus> norbi: you need to run the scp client on your machine, not on the router.
[08:02] <werwaffel> hi
[08:03] <herkupus> norbi: scp username@router-ip:/tmp/capture.cap .
[08:03] <norbi> herkupus: i will try it now
[08:03] <werwaffel> wlan on ubuntu is shit u.u
[08:04] <ikonia> werwaffel: control the language
[08:04] <herkupus> werwaffel: only with the wrong chipsets
[08:05] <werwaffel> herkupus: yes i have a realtek card... ubuntu finds my router but it doesnt connect with it ... i just have to type in my WLAN key and that nearly every minute
[08:05] <norbi> herkupus: how can i specify the port
[08:05] <norbi> ?
[08:05] <norbi> it wants to connect over 22
[08:06] <werwaffel> is Ubuntu 10.10 better or 11.04 ?
[08:06] <herkupus> norbi: scp -P portnum ...
[08:07] <yan_nick> hey guys, how can i use a screen region as webcam? #ubuntu1104
[08:07] <sri_> hi
[08:07] <norbi> scp -P 4677 user@xx.xx.xx.xx:/tmp/capture.cap c:/capture.cap and it gives me ssh: connect to host xx.xx.xx.xx port 22: connection refused
[08:07] <sri_> is anybody there
[08:08] <sri_> to solve my prob
[08:08] <quentusrex_> norbi, look into sftp
[08:08] <ikonia> sri_: you need to ask a question
[08:08] <herkupus> norbi: which scp client is that?
[08:08] <quentusrex_> scp in your case won't help since you are remote, and behind a router.
[08:08] <quentusrex_> herkupus, he is behind another firewall on a separate lan.
[08:09] <herkupus> quentusrex_: how can he log in to the router then?
[08:09] <quentusrex_> he is logging into the public interface of the router remotely.
[08:09] <herkupus> quentusrex_: yeah. and why he can't use the same interface for scp?
[08:10] <minimec> yan_nick: http://www.ws4gl.org/
[08:10] <Crash1hd> hey all is there a command that I can run that will tell me what directory my shell is in? like a where am i command
[08:10] <phoque_uni> werwaffel, 10.10 > 11.04 by a lot
[08:10] <herkupus> quentusrex_: scp is using the same port number, so it should work
[08:10] <quentusrex_> norbi, try with a lowercase -p
[08:10] <dr_willis> Crash1hd:   pwd
[08:10] <herkupus> quentusrex_: no, lowercase -p is "preserve permissions" in scp
[08:10] <quentusrex_> herkupus, yes, scp could work in that sense. But with the other things he's doing sftp would be better.
[08:10] <dr_willis> Print working directory
[08:11] <quentusrex_> herkupus, aah, that's right. scp has it different.
[08:11] <werwaffel> phoque_uni: how can i deinstall 11.04 safety? because i have installed Vista (i use it right now) and dont want to destroy it
[08:11] <Crash1hd> dr_willis, thanks :)
[08:11] <werwaffel> *safe
[08:11] <norbi> ok, lowercase is fine, but ssh: Could not resolve hostname c: Name or service not known
[08:11] <Crash1hd> dr_willis, can you tell me what pwd stands for?
[08:12] <phoque_uni> werwaffel, format your / partition and install 10.10. I hope you have /home/ on a different partition
[08:12] <Crash1hd> to me it says password lol
[08:12] <dr_willis> Crash1hd:  i allready did. ;)
[08:12] <dr_willis> Print working directory
[08:12] <phoque_uni> Crash1hd, print name of working directory
[08:12] <phoque_uni> Crash1hd, hint: use "man pwd"
[08:12] <Crash1hd> all lol I see it now :) thanks again :)
[08:12] <werwaffel> phoque_uni: i used the function to install ubuntu next to windows when i installed ubuntu... how can i do it?
[08:12] <quentusrex_> norbi, 'night.
[08:12] <dr_willis> !bash
[08:12]  * quentusrex_ afk
[08:12] <Al_nz1> Hi. Can someone please help me with a grub issue. I have two version of linux installed and Win7 on disk. But grub menu only shows win7 and one linux install. This is after trying to fix a no such partition message and getting the dreaded grub rescue prompt.
[08:12] <werwaffel> phoque_uni: sry im totally new to linux
[08:13] <phoque_uni> werwaffel, no idea, sorry
[08:13] <dr_willis> werwaffel:  youmean you used the wubi.exxe installer?
[08:13] <werwaffel> dr_willis: no.. i installed Ubuntu on my real PC next to Windows vista
[08:13] <norbi> quentusrex_: you are going?
[08:13] <werwaffel> dr_willis: different partitions
[08:14] <dr_willis> werwaffel:  on its own partitions then. And whatm is your end goal?
[08:14] <werwaffel> dr_willis: i want to remove Ubuntu complete, so i can use Windows Vista again and then i want to install 10.10
[08:14] <werwaffel> dr_willis: but vista shouldnt take damage
[08:14] <minimec> werwaffel: For unstable wifi. Check the security protocol used on your router. If you use TKIP, change it to AES. That may help with Linux wifi-drivers.
[08:14] <werwaffel> minimec: i use WPA2 AES
[08:14] <quentusrex_> norbi, it is 1:15am here. I have to be up in the morning. there are enough people here to help. Also, as I mentioned before to solve your issue you want to run the wol command from the router, not from remote.
[08:15] <dr_willis> werwaffel:  just install 10.10 over your linux install then
[08:15] <minimec> werwaffel: Ok.
[08:15] <werwaffel> dr_willis: just put my ISO CD in and reboot?
[08:15] <norbi> quentusrex_: ok, thank you very much!!
[08:15] <norbi> good night!
[08:16] <dr_willis> werwaffel:  yes. That can work. Use the custom/somthing else to define where / and swap are to be at
[08:16] <farciarz84> hi, I have such error: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"OPENGL32.dll": libGL.so.1: bad class ELF: ELFCLASS64
[08:16] <farciarz84> what's wrong?
[08:16] <farciarz84> hot to solve this issue?
[08:17] <dr_willis> farciarz84: you on a 32 or 64bit setup?    What program is giving that error
[08:17] <farciarz84> 64
[08:17] <farciarz84> wine
[08:17] <werwaffel> dr_willis: ill try it and i secured my data on an USB hard drive... but i'm afraid that my wlan wouldnt work even on windows if the installation fails and i have to reinstall everything
[08:17] <werwaffel> dr_willis: *worried
[08:17] <farciarz84> dr_willis: I have resent intel driveres, mesa and 11.04
[08:17] <farciarz84> recent*
[08:18] <werwaffel> dr_willis: sry im german... so some words of my english are not good ;)
[08:18] <dr_willis> werwaffel:  learn how to restore the mbr for windows and grub  if it breaks. Fix it. ;)
[08:19] <dr_willis> farciarz84:  so a wine game is giving that error
[08:19] <werwaffel> dr_willis: i'll try it ... thanks for help!
[08:19] <farciarz84> dr_willis: yes
[08:20] <farciarz84> but before an upadte everything goes fine
[08:20] <dr_willis> It looks like some 32bit expected but 64bit found sort of error.
[08:21] <dr_willis> I rarely use wine so no ide how to fix that.
[08:22] <delac> should ssh-server still have entry in the System->Preferences->Startup Applications?
[08:23] <dr_willis> Server is az service. I wold not think it would have an entry in the user startup apps
[08:23] <kiprop> hey yall
[08:23] <delac> I'm pretty sure it has been there at some point....
[08:24] <dr_willis> That dosent make sence at all.
[08:24] <minimec> delac: System<preferences<startup ... is for user sessions. the ssh server starts as daemon.
[08:24] <dr_willis> Now some ssh-agents. Makes sence
[08:25] <pratz> hey guys, i am using 10.04 desktop edition, i have a wi-bro band connection enabled, but when i try to browser the net i do not get any speed, i.e 3-4kb, but when i download the speed is 100kb+, what may be the problem ??
[08:25] <delac> OR, I could mix the Startup Applications with the old Services-dialog XD
[08:25] <dr_willis> GiraffeFrenzy:  dont msg me your xxx spam
[08:26] <delac> sma here
[08:26] <delac> same*
[08:26] <norbi> reading from file /tmp/capture.cap, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet) after this is nothing, it means it is empty?
[08:26] <dr_willis> !upstart
[08:26] <daedra> A slight annoyance with Ubuntu 11.04 - the main, smaller monitor horizontal has out of bounds the height of the secondary, bigger monitor
[08:26] <pratz> i think i am not getting speed on http protocal, but on ftp and bittorrent the speed is good, is it that i need to configure some thing ??
[08:27] <dr_willis> daedra:  thats the dead zone.
[08:27] <pratz> hye guys any idea ??
[08:27] <minimec> pratz: That could be a MTU problem between router and your computer.. Try sudo 'ifconfig ethX mtu 1492', where ethX is to change...
[08:27] <daedra> dr_willis: can I not have a dead zone plz
[08:27] <pratz> is it possible that i can get a slow speed only for http protocol ??
[08:27] <Kuzad> I've been having a problem with Ubuntu One's client on 11.04.
[08:27] <Kuzad> (Crap, didn't mean to hit enter.)
[08:28] <dr_willis> daedra:  use same rez on both i guess. Never had an issue with it myself
[08:28] <alachiq> i can't copy search result in gnome-search-tool to ~/
[08:29] <daedra> dr_willis: you mean the same widthXheight?
[08:29] <Kuzad> The problem is that the desktopcouch processes that it makes have basically become a forkbomb. About 10 minutes ago I RAN OUT OF RAM due to the process recreating itself thousands of times. I managed to resolve it by going to one of the text-only sessions and killing all of them through top, then removing the package. Has anyone else had this problem?
[08:29] <Kuzad> The first It in that was referring to Ubuntu One.
[08:29] <pratz> is it possible that i can get a slow speed only for http protocol ??
[08:29] <dr_willis> daedra:  only fix i can think of. I dont recall it being a problem with twinview/nvidia
[08:33] <daedra> dr_willis: damn
[08:34] <Pirsch> Hi all
[08:34] <Pirsch> Is it possible to make Transmission start up automatically when I start my computer?
[08:34] <dr_willis> i never span somthing across both moitors. So never even notice it
[08:34] <Kuzad> Yes it is, Pirsch.
[08:35] <Pirsch> Would you mind explaining how I can do that please.
[08:35] <dr_willis> Pirsch: you could set the user to autologin and start it.
[08:35] <tewea> i was installing wine in my computer but when i was try to use skype it says "system error.code:1814 resource name not found" is thee any soulution?
[08:35] <ohmy> Hello everyone
[08:35] <dr_willis> Not sure if it has a cli version.
[08:36] <pooky> I hate to ask what might be considered offtopic, but I'm slowly migrating from apple to ubuntu as my primary desktop, and I'm looking to move away from my iphone, any suggested smartphones for linux?
[08:36] <dr_willis> tewea: skype in wine?
[08:36] <wildbat>  tewea: there is linux version ~
[08:36] <ohmy> I'm interesting to on unity project and i would like to have a preview of the project schedule please : When the project started, what are the different milestones etc, any link could be helpfull plaese
[08:36] <tewea> dr_willis>yes
[08:36] <dr_willis> pooky:  most androids work well. See #android
[08:36] <Pirsch> dr_willis: is there another way?
[08:37] <tewea> dr_willis>but i cant uninstall aslo
[08:37] <Pirsch> dr_willis: this is a shared computer
[08:37] <pooky> dr_willis: great, that's what I thought but wanted to just ask in here as a confirmation of the hunch
[08:37] <dr_willis> Pirsch:  no idea if it has a cli client. You could check its docs.
[08:37] <tewea>  i coudn't install the lunix verstion
[08:37] <tewea> iam using 10.04 verstion
[08:37] <dr_willis> pooky:  i am ircing to my ubuntu box now. I also have shell access to my ubuntu box
[08:38] <dr_willis> Ubuntu+android works well for me
[08:39] <tewea> dr_willis:?
[08:39] <Pirsch> dr_willis: I thought I might be able to add Transmission to my start-up applications. But I'm unable to figure out how to choose the right command in the GUI application.
[08:40] <dr_willis> Pirsch:  drag icon to desktop. check its properties.
[08:40] <Pirsch> dr_willis: Dahhh, I should have thought of that. :D
[08:40] <minimec> Pirsch: Command would be... transmission-gtk -m --> start minimized
[08:41] <dr_willis> !autostart
[08:41] <dr_willis> brb
[08:41] <tewea> and also i was try to install apache 2 but i coudnt find in my favorite folder?
[08:42] <Pirsch> minimec: thanks, I got it. Things are starting to make sense, given enough trial and error. :)
[08:42] <Pirsch> dr_willis: thanks dude.
[08:43] <tewea> and also i was try to install apache 2 but i coudnt find in my favorite folder?is any one who can help me?
[08:43] <minimec> Pirsch: There is divine beauty in learning... ;)
[08:44] <Pirsch> minimec: makes the headaches barable. :D
[08:44] <daedra> how do I disable the horrible new scroll bars in Ubuntu 11.04?
[08:44] <daedra> Eclipse has horizontal ones that don't allow you to slide them
[08:45] <daedra> they just indicate how far along you are :/
[08:46] <dr_willis> daedra:  webupd8 blog site gave exact commands and ways to do it on a per app basis i belive
[08:47] <minimec> daedra: http://ubuntu4beginners.blogspot.com/2011/04/disable-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu.html
[08:47] <daedra> thank minimec
[08:47] <dr_willis> same posting covers global menus and other tweaks
[08:47] <daedra> they're nice for vertical bars
[08:47] <dr_willis> i have other unity tips bookmarked at  delicious.com/dr_willis
[08:48] <dr_willis> just found the ubuntu one app for android. woohoo
[08:50] <sterna> hi, how can i make grub not prompt, ever?
[08:51] <sterna> there's nothing in ubuntu docs and grub by itself doesn't do it
[08:51] <glda19> ho use thunderbird 5.0 with ligthning
[08:52] <kennett> When I use the update manager it says not all updates can be installed run a partial upgrade. What is that?
[08:52] <dr_willis> sterna:  you mea auto default to first entry after like 5 sec
[08:52] <glda19> hi
[08:52] <sterna> dr_willis: possibly
[08:52] <sterna> dr_willis: the problem is that when i power cycle
[08:53] <sterna> i get a grub prompt that doesn't timeout
[08:53] <glda19> hi
[08:53] <dr_willis> sterna:  grub can do that via timeout normally. no idea why a power cycle vs warm reboot would matter
[08:53] <dr_willis> a reboot does work?
[08:54] <sterna> yes
[08:54] <dr_willis> that is weird.
[08:54] <sterna> i have a nettop that boots off a sd card and i've never seen this before until i installed natty
[08:55] <glda19> ho use tb5.0 with ligthning 1.04b
[08:55] <sterna> it's just weird, looks like some "failed to shut down properly" mode i guess
[08:55] <Stevethepirate> Hi, I have a weird problem, I'm apt-get'ing some files (updating them really) and it downloads the files fine, but then it hangs on "Unpacking replacement <file>"
[08:55] <ArmyMan007> hi... i'm missing icons because i deleted it by accident using the edit menus application
[08:56] <ArmyMan007> hi... i'm missing icons because i deleted it by accident using the edit menus application... how do i restore it?
[08:56] <daedra> minimec: no, disabling overlay scrollbars did not fix Eclipse
[08:56] <dr_willis> sterna:  never seen that befor with grub. ive had weird issues befor but not that one
[08:56] <daedra> it may be a per app thing
[08:56] <sterna> ok i'll figure how to manually manage this
[08:56] <minimec> daedra: Well.. I do not use eclipse...
[08:57] <daedra> myea
[08:57] <ArmyMan007> hi... i'm missing icons because i deleted it by accident using the edit menus application... how do i restore it?
[08:57] <ArmyMan007> i've deleted my flight of the amazon queen icon and now i can't play it! :'(
[08:59] <pp7> is the icon in the trash?
[08:59] <ohmy> Well i'll ask the question differently, hopefully i can have an answer, "When the developement of Unity was been opened to the collunity please for contribution" ?
[09:00] <ArmyMan007> pp7: nope
[09:00] <Stevethepirate> Hi, I have a weird problem, I'm apt-get'ing some files (updating them really) and it downloads the files fine, but then it hangs on "Unpacking replacement <file>"
[09:00] <pp7> collunity?
[09:00] <ArmyMan007> pp7: classic
[09:01] <dimmah1> hi
[09:01] <dimmah1> does anyone can help with horde 'logon-loop' problem? When I'm entering login/pass and pressing 'log in', the login page refreshing with clear fields. It happens in FF, Chrome and IE for Mac. In IE for Win and Safari everything's OK.
[09:01] <ohmy> reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+milestones it looks that unity 2010-06-03 "0.2.6" 	0.2 	2010-06-03 	2010-06-07 is the date i'm looking for but i'm not sure
[09:01] <ohmy> pp7: community sorry
[09:01] <pp7> do a sudo updatedb then search for the filename using locate
[09:01] <astraljava> ArmyMan007: Reinstall from Synaptic, or `sudo aptitude reinstall flight-of-the-amazon-queen`
[09:01] <daedra> unity is so LOLAWFUL
[09:01] <ArmyMan007> astraljava: tried it... still won't show up
[09:01] <ohmy> daedra: i know .. m looking for dates only
[09:02] <pp7> locate amazon | grep bin
[09:03] <ArmyMan007> pp7: can you try giving me the path?
[09:03] <ArmyMan007> astraljava: already tried it.. didn't work
[09:03] <astraljava> ArmyMan007: Then just create a new launcher in the menu, it's not that hard.
[09:03] <pp7> how would i know that?
[09:03] <ArmyMan007> astraljava: how am i suppose to do that?
[09:03] <ArmyMan007> astraljava: i have no idea on how to create a new launcher
[09:03] <minimec> ArmyMan007: sudo updatedb, then "locate amazon" --> /usr/share/app-install...
[09:04] <pp7> locate amazon | grep bin
[09:04] <glda19> is there some one ho have a dual boot with xp ubuntu with tb
[09:05] <astraljava> ArmyMan007: Same place where you were editing the menu. Go to the Games menu. Click on New Item, you will be presented with a dialog into which you just fill in the required info.
[09:06] <ArmyMan007> astraljava: i can do that... except that i don't know what's the folder name for this game..
[09:06] <astraljava> There must be a way to update the menu, though, after a reinstall you should have the needed .desktop file in place anyway.
[09:08] <astraljava> ArmyMan007: Command: /usr/games/scummvm -p /usr/share/scummvm/flight-of-the-amazon-queen queen
[09:08] <astraljava> ArmyMan007: Everything else is up to you, they don't make a difference.
[09:08] <dr_willis> i never did finish that game
[09:08] <ArmyMan007> astraljava: thanks a bunch man! :D
[09:09] <ArmyMan007> dr_willis: well... let me try! :D
[09:10] <astraljava> ArmyMan007: No prob. I'm still certain there's a way to update the menu, as those things come from /usr/share/menu/flight-of-the-amazon-queen
[09:10] <astraljava> But I forget how.
[09:10] <Stevethepirate> Hi, I have a weird problem, I'm apt-get'ing some files (updating them really) and it downloads the files fine, but then it hangs on "Unpacking replacement <file>"
[09:10] <ArmyMan007> but i just wonder... why when i delete the icon using the edit menu GUI i can't get the icons to come back like a "refresh" of some sort?
[09:11] <pentarex> guys I think I've done something wrong... I wanted to install sun-java6-jdk and from one tutorial there was explanation how you can use the sun java instead of openJDK and there was something like this /usb/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[09:11] <astraljava> ArmyMan007: Ahh... should be update-desktop-database
[09:12] <dr_willis> ArmyMan007:  alacarte lets you hide/unhide them
[09:12] <ArmyMan007> The databases in [/usr/share/gnome-classic/applications, /usr/share/gnome/applications, /usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications] could not be updated.
[09:12] <ArmyMan007> i wrote in terminal and it brought me up this
[09:12] <dr_willis> theres some use config that tells them to hide fromyour user.
[09:14] <ArmyMan007> well
[09:15] <ArmyMan007> so long it works out for the meantime that should be good enough
[09:15] <sda> hi all, how can i run a program in standalone mode? i would love to run chrome\chromium\firefox or a random browser without anything else like xbmc can run, without gnome or kde... can I?
[09:15] <ArmyMan007> thanks a bunch you guys... l8er! :D
[09:17] <dr_willis> sda: make a desktop session for gdm that justarts the app. xbmc has a similer entry on my box. came with xbmc
[09:18] <dr_willis> there are koisk plugins for the browsers also ive seen
[09:18] <dr_willis> and you most  likely do want to use some minimal window manager with the browser
[09:19] <Utopiah> hi #ubuntu
[09:20] <Core> Hello people, I am having an issue with initramfs. For some reason it refuses to detect my eth0 network card
[09:20] <Utopiah> I played with parted/mkfs/fdisk then fstab and now have a new /home which works well with my content in it but I have ~/.gvfs with pretty stranges rights, is it safe to delete it and expect it to be generated again?
[09:21] <sda> dr_willis, i'm going to try now :)
[09:22] <TeslaDroid> damn there's a lot of ppl in here
[09:24] <dr_willis> Utopiah: log out and check it from console. Its a special dir
[09:26] <Guest38993> how to make netbook screen to luminate more?
[09:26] <vlt> Hello. When I run an OpenOffice presentation in fullscreen (F5) mode, my gnome panel is still visible. How to avoid this?
[09:26] <vlt> This is Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[09:27] <TeslaDroid> anyone able to help me with gnome3
[09:27] <TeslaDroid> I instlaled it but it will not load
[09:27] <TeslaDroid> gives me a oops something went wrong screen click logout to contintue
[09:28] <glda19> how use tb 5.0 with ligthning
[09:29] <MrsB> vlt: hide the panel - you can set it to autohide if you like. Right click on it, choose properties.
[09:32] <vlt> MrsB: I need it to hide when OOo enters presentation mode.
[09:34] <MrsB> vlt: What you described sounds like a glitch with OOo, a workaround woul dbe to hide the panel or set it to autohide
[09:34] <ceeJay> morning
[09:35] <mark_scz> mysql doesn't seem to be taking conf out of /etc/mysql/my.cnf when i do /etc/init.d/mysql restart. Any ideas? i tried changing the port to check and it didn't listen on the new port i specified (3307 instead of 3306)
[09:35] <VictorCl2> Hi
[09:35] <diablo> hi
[09:35] <VictorCl2> how can I make the calendar start the week on monday instead of sunday?
[09:36] <vlt> MrsB: I can't tell all the users to set their panel to auto-hide. How can I make it disappear when OOo enters presentation mode?
[09:36] <Guest38993> hi, can i connect my phone bluetooth ear piece to skype?
[09:36] <Guest38993> why does my screen is always dimmed?
[09:36]  * ceeJay chuckles with people charging onto chat asking questions
[09:37] <diablo> only if your computer has bluetooth on it then u can use it on skype
[09:37] <Hannz> hello, i have a problem with ethernet settings. it seems that my ethx keeps changing its name (eth0 to eth1 to eth2 and so on), and apparently the hwaddr is also changing its mac address everytime i reboot the computer.
[09:37] <Guest38993> how can i set my mic on my netbook? it doesnt works
[09:37] <VictorCl2> where do babies come from?
[09:39] <ceeJay> as a general wondering, any of you residents here happen to be experts on networked hard drives with ubuntu 11? Specifically I have a mybook world that's being a pain
[09:39] <diablo> Guest38993 check if u have the driver for your mike
[09:40] <pishi_naznazi136> I have a powerful PC. I want to connect 2 monitors and 2 mouses and keyboards to it so it is possible that two users use this computer at the same time with different screens. I mean running X two times and each time for one user. is it possible? and if it is, how?
[09:41] <dr_willis> pishi_naznazi136:  its possible. i think the term is 'hot seat' or 'multi seat'
[09:41] <ceeJay> pishi wants 2 of everything :p
[09:42] <ceeJay> so long as you can get it to recognise your kit it should be fine
[09:42] <diablo> pishi_naznazi136: its possible there is hardware u can pick up for that
[09:42] <e-DIO-t> g ni/j #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:42] <dr_willis> thers a company that has a free 2 seat version for ubuntu. and can support dozen+seats
[09:42] <LBo> Hi, does anyone know how to change the extraversion variable when creating kernel packages with dpkg-buildpackage?
[09:42] <LBo> I've tried EXTRAVERSION=-leon dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us but that didn't work :)
[09:42] <RickardAtWork> I have ubuntu installed on a 8GB partition (no swap). I would like to copy this partition to a USB thumb drive and run it from there instead. I've created a 8GB partition on the USB drive and I'm now running dd to copy the data. Do I need to installed a boot loader on the USB drive as well or will it just boot?
[09:43] <LBo> make-kpkg doesn't work. It complains about some missing commands from a x86 only package (I'm compiling on arm)
[09:43] <pishi_naznazi136> diablo: wat kind of device i need?
[09:43] <pishi_naznazi136> dr_willis: ;)
[09:43] <dr_willis> RickardAtWork:  just dd worked for me the other day when i did that.  but i went from flash to hd.
[09:44] <RickardAtWork> dr_willis: Ok.
[09:45] <diablo> pishi_naznazi136: u can get a video card capable of 2 monitors and us usb mouse and keyboard
[09:45] <ceeJay> ubuntu 11 should just boot from the usb if you have your main pc/netbook bios set to load from usb first
[09:45] <pishi_naznazi136> diablo: :-* thank you
[09:45] <dr_willis> multiseatx  = what you may want pishi_naznazi136
[09:45] <ceeJay> pishi, most modern graphics cards can handle multiple monitors
[09:46] <diablo> pishi_naznazi136: your welcome
[09:46] <dr_willis> i just googled it ;)
[09:46] <pishi_naznazi136> dr_willis: yeah, i found some manuals for that
[09:46] <nergal_> Hi, is it insserv that is used for adding services to autostart in ubuntu 11.04?
[09:47] <pishi_naznazi136> ceeJay: yeah, in the office i have a powerful pc, but most of times it is idle, so i wanted to share it with my partner
[09:47] <pishi_naznazi136> thnx everyone
[09:47] <diablo> Is there a IM service that is capable of webcam for Yahoo
[09:47] <ceeJay> either of you guys up on how to detect networked hard drives btw? or I have I got the one problem that's a bitch to solve?
[09:48] <glda19> how can i share calendar between linux /xp
[09:48] <ceeJay> pidgin diablo?
[09:48] <issabella> how to create a qlist ?
[09:48] <ceeJay> Haven't tried on ubuntu yet mind
[09:48] <dr_willis> what service is the hd using ceeJay
[09:48] <diablo> ceejay: is it set up wirelessly or cable
[09:49] <dr_willis> glda19:  you could use googles calander feature
[09:49] <ceeJay> that I'm not sure on dr_willis, my netbook with ubuntu is wireless, the harddrive itself is plugged into the router
[09:49] <glda19> dr_willis, what ? no is use ligthning
[09:50] <Pirsch> I've just instaled and update 11.04 on another rig. But, in synaptic manager I have no options for any packages other than what is installed. I've had this problem in the past and simply reinstalled. Is there an easier way to get passed this problem?
[09:50] <dr_willis> ceeJay:  check its docs. its probly. a  samba server. but some can do nfs, or other waaaays
[09:50] <diablo> ceejay: is your router set up for file sharing
[09:50] <dr_willis> glda19:  never heard of it.
[09:51] <glda19> dr_willis, its a add-on for tb5.0
[09:51] <ceeJay> let me go check those 2 bits and I'll get back to you ;)  I had no clue where to start really. So used to plug and play stuff
[09:51] <dr_willis> glda19:  never use tb either. ;)
[09:52] <dr_willis> Start with the docs. ;) heh.
[09:52] <dr_willis> My router had a usb port. But it was so limited. I never did get it to share    stuff.
[09:53] <dr_willis> A little nas can be had for $20 that can share 2 usb hds
[09:53] <dr_willis> Slow.. But it works
[09:53] <Pirsch>  I've just installed and update 11.04 on another rig. But, in synaptic manager I have no options for any packages other than what is installed. I've had this problem in the past and simply reinstalled. Is there an easier way to get passed this problem? I somehow think it's a setting in synaptic but I cannot figure out which one. I've tried using different repo servers but I've had no luck.
[09:54] <dr_willis> No options to do what?
[09:54] <dr_willis> You dident click on the thing to show 'installed' apps only?
[09:55] <Pirsch> For example, after the first updaye I reboot and start with 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' but even that doesn't show up
[09:55] <minimec> Pirsch: Check if you have the uni-/multiverse repos activated.
[09:55] <dr_willis> Thers always the apt-get commands. Ive never heard of your synamtic issue
[09:55] <Pirsch> I do, that is what I checked first
[09:56] <Pirsch> sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade, and nothing
[09:56] <dr_willis> Thren apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:57] <dr_willis> Does that work
[09:57] <minimec> Pirsch: apt-cache search ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:58] <Lasers> Pirsch: You updated it to 11.04 from what?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:58] <Pirsch> fresh install
[09:59] <Lasers> Pirsch: Check Partner/Community Repo -- Are they toggled on?
[09:59] <Gryllida> ActionParsnip is asking the right thing
[09:59] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: Greets once again ;)
[10:00] <Pirsch> yes, partners is on
[10:00] <sda> dr_willis, i put slim, but i don't know how tell him start only chrome, it start openbox the gui i installed before!
[10:01] <Pirsch> This is a little difficult as I cannot even install xchat on the rig with the problem. So, I have to jump from one rig to the other. Sorry if I am slow to respond.
[10:01] <minimec> Pirsch: Is the CD Source still activated? Can you give us a 'pastebin' of /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:01] <Utopiah> dr_willis: [regarding ~/.gvfs] yes it's a special dir but what it's for and can I safely delete it?
[10:01] <Gryllida> minimec, ActionParsnip is asking the right thing, let's wait for that and not make assumptions yet
[10:02] <Guest38993> how can i set my mic on my netbook? it doesnt works
[10:02] <Guest38993> how can i set my mic on my netbook? it doesnt works
[10:02] <Guest38993> why does my screen is always dimmed?
[10:02] <kim_> how to disable firewall on ubuntu
[10:02] <Guest38993> hi, can i connect my phone bluetooth ear piece to skype?
[10:02] <FloodBot1> Guest38993: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <Pirsch> minimec: I installed an iso on a usb flash via start-up disk and used that to install 11.04 on my other rig.
[10:02] <Gryllida> kim_, it's not on by default
[10:02] <kim_> how to check and disable it
[10:03] <kim_> Gryllida : how to check and disable it
[10:03] <Gryllida> !firewall | kim_
[10:03] <diablo> Guest38993: do u have bluetooth on your netbook
[10:03] <Gryllida> kim_, I use iptables and check 'sudo iptables -L'
[10:04] <Pirsch> minimec: I just had another idea. Since I have the possibility of only one rig on the net at one time, perhaps there's an easier way. Can I copy a file from my working rig (11.04) and simply replace the file in the rig that's not working? The sources would be all the same
[10:04] <Guest38993> diablo, yes
[10:04] <kim_> Gryllida : when i type iptables -L ...it is giving some output .....
[10:05] <Gryllida> kim_, yes, if it's an empty table then it's okay
[10:05] <kim_> Gryllida :i want to disable the firewall from desktop becasuse tftp image i can't ake from server
[10:05] <Pirsch> minimec: for example, the etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:05] <Gryllida> kim_, describe your issue, please.
[10:06] <superskip> hi
[10:06] <minimec> Pirsch: Before copying things, a simple look at it would be enough probably...
[10:06] <shaibn> Hello :) I'm not quite sure about how sysstat's sdac options of count and interval work exactly ... if I have a cron that runs every minute and my count is 2 and interval is 120, what would it do exactly?
[10:06] <superskip> anyone experiecing problems with the S2
[10:06] <superskip> echo problems
[10:07] <superskip> please help
[10:07] <superskip> ??
[10:07] <Gryllida> superskip, describe your issue, please.
[10:07] <Pirsch> minimec: unfortunately that might be a bit difficult as I can only have the net on one rig at a time. Unless I can copy the sources list and transfer (usb) to this rig.
[10:08] <superskip> when i make a call with a case the other person gets my echo
[10:08] <kim_> Gryllida : m trying this command on server where tftp image available tftp ip address -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
[10:08] <Gryllida> kim_, okay, and what do you get?
[10:09] <kim_> Gryllida : it is working ...but when on client side it is giving transfer timed out
[10:09] <Gryllida> kim_, (Address the channel and notme, lease, channel knows better)
[10:09] <minimec> Pirsch: Even without ineternet connection, 'apt-cache search ubuntu-restricted-extras' should tell you, if ubuntu can locate the package according to your sources.
[10:09] <Gryllida> kim_, working where?
[10:09] <superskip> Someone gave me this solution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ6WeWqwseE
[10:10] <Pirsch> minimec: so I just run sudo apt-cache in xterm?
[10:10] <kim_> Gryllida :on server if i type command it is getting image but not on client side showing transfer timed out
[10:10] <minimec> Pirsch: gnome-terminal or xterm, yes
[10:10] <superskip> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ6WeWqwseE
[10:10] <minimec> Pirsch: no sudo necessary, as we are only searching.
[10:11] <movan2011> kim:  Have you allowed access through the filewall on your server?
[10:11] <superskip> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ6WeWqwseE
[10:11] <Hyperbyte> superskip, stop spamming.
[10:11] <Pirsch> minimec: ok, I've run it, now what?
[10:11] <kim_> Gryllida :on server if i type command it is getting image but not on client side showing transfer timed out
[10:11] <minimec> Pirsch: No results?
[10:12] <Pirsch> minimec: lots, but what should I look for?
[10:12] <Gryllida> kim_, does server have firewall?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: howdy
[10:12] <minimec> Pirsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/639383/
[10:12] <Gryllida> kim_, also what is the error on client side exactly.
[10:13] <kim_> Gryllida :that u tell me how to check and disable it on ubuntu
[10:13] <movan2011> kim:  Is server running ubuntu?
[10:13] <kim_> Gryllida :it is saying "Transfered timed out" after connecting
[10:13] <Gryllida> kim_, pastebin 1) 'sudo iptables -L' output on server;  2. exact details on what client you use and what error you get
[10:13] <kim_> movan2011: yes
[10:14] <movan2011> kim: Are you running the client and server on the same network or are you accessing the server from the internet?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: did you make the pastebin? (I'm in and out due to being at work)
[10:15] <Pirsch> minimec: I did apt-cache ubuntu-restricted-extras and got "Invalid operation ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[10:16] <Samson> hey
[10:16] <Guest25613> hi
[10:16] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: sorry, I have the net for only one rig at a time. I have no xchat on the problem rig
[10:17] <movan2011> Pirch: you need to type apt-cache search ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:17] <Samson> i removed by mistake some critical packages of ubuntu 11.04 and now i cant startx or apt-get update. i have chrooted from a livecd now, but i still cant update or install a package. what can i do?
[10:17] <minimec> Pirsch: apt-cache search ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: i see, could install xchat then...
[10:18] <Pirsch> minimec: I just realised that and got the same results as in the pastebin
[10:18] <jiltdil> Any good big game available in ubuntu for 64bit
[10:18] <Pirsch> Actionparsnip: I'd love to but I don't have that option
[10:18] <KAM> Is there a dev package for virtualbox ? I'm trying to write a guest addition for virtual box on ubuntu and I can find any header files in the system.
[10:18] <Pirsch> Let me try something. I'll be back soon
[10:19] <KAM> s/can/can't
[10:19] <Guest25613> hi
[10:19] <Gryllida> Guest25613 Hello.
[10:19] <Samson> i removed by mistake some critical packages of ubuntu 11.04 and now i cant startx or apt-get update. i have chrooted from a livecd now, but i still cant update or install a package. what can i do?
[10:19] <ceeJay> I do hate manufacturers sometimes. Seems because Western Digital have this fancy auto-detection software for windows/mac, they've decided not to list any specifics about the network drive
[10:19] <minimec> Pirsch: So the sources seem to be ok. Connect to the internet with that machine and try again... ;)
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Samson: install ubuntu-desktop package, should make things ok
[10:20] <Samson> ActionParsnip: thats the thing i cant
[10:20] <minimec> Pirsch: Now... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:20] <Samson> ActionParsnip: i cant even apt-get update
[10:20] <Samson> ActionParsnip: maybe the apt-get broke
[10:20] <ceeJay> Samson, if you can't get it to do that, you're probably stuck with having to do a clean install of the whole system
[10:21] <Samson> ceeJay: i know which packages are missing
[10:21] <Samson> ceeJay: so i can get them manually
[10:22] <ceeJay> It's more if you can't get it to install it's a bit redundant ;)
[10:23] <Samson> ceeJay: maybe it will fix this way
[10:23] <Samson> those packages are missing
[10:23] <Samson>   kde-window-manager kdebase-workspace-bin libpowerdevilcore0 libsolidcontrolifaces4a
[10:23] <Samson>   x11-utils xorg
[10:23] <Guest25613> ;
[10:23] <Samson> ceeJay: is any of those affecting apt-get?
[10:23] <Alan> Is there a reasonable way to uninstall a metapackage?  it's seems to leave all of it's dependencies installed (i.e. not autoremove-able)
[10:25] <Pirsch> minimec: ok, I'm on the troubled-rig now. I'm installing my packages through shell. But I usually do this through synaptic manager.
[10:26] <Lasers> Pirsch: From what I heard -- 11.10 won't have synaptic anymore (for default, I'm assuming) -- Now is good time to learn, I suppose!
[10:26] <rasty> slaw ke kurde? chon be kurdy bnosm le ubntu be shewazy araby?
[10:26] <minimec> Pirsch: the GUI will basically do the same.
[10:26] <Pirsch> Lasers: ok, perhaps a sign of the times. :)
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: thats fine, the cli will get you fixed faster
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: can you pastebin the text we requested please :)
[10:27] <wildbat> Alan: try deborphan
[10:27] <Guest25613> hey is there anyone who has any idea about multitcoh in linux??
[10:27] <Gryllida> Lasers, :(
[10:27] <Gryllida> Guest25613, please describe your issue.
[10:27] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: source list, right?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo apt-get update
[10:28] <Lasers> Gryllida: sudo apt-get install :(
[10:28] <Gryllida> Lasers, :)
[10:29] <Dickmaster_> Hello
[10:29] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: I'll have to wait. CLI is d-loading ubu-res-ex right now
[10:29] <Gryllida> Lasers, I must be happy someone actually decides to maintain it. ;)
[10:29] <Dickmaster_> What are the musthave ubuntu programs?
[10:29] <Dickmaster_> The stuff I should get right away]
[10:29] <Lasers> Dickmaster_: MUSTHAVE.... Chromium!
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Dickmaster_: X, grub2
[10:29] <Gryllida> Dickmaster_, mostly the preinstalled ones
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Dickmaster_: Gnome
[10:29] <Dickmaster_> So X,grub and the thing chrome was copied from
[10:30] <Dickmaster_> And gnome
[10:30] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: ... and unfortunately I am thus far unable to open pastebin. One of the 'perks' of living in China. :)
[10:30] <Dickmaster_> wait,what is X?
[10:30] <Gryllida> Dickmaster_, it's chromium (not chrome) for the most part
[10:30] <Gryllida> !x
[10:30] <Lasers> Dickmaster_: Wandy The Fish. (Joke) - Hmm. X is X11 (screen). So you're not seeing a blank terminal.
[10:31] <Lasers> Dickmaster_: Most of the applications for everyday tasks are already installed.
[10:31] <Kolt> Hi! I have an ubuntu 11 running in recovery mode and I have to copy some files from it to a usb pendrive. Where is it automatically mointed?
[10:31] <Dickmaster_> Ubuntu comes with a windows manager
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: try www.pastie.org
[10:31] <Dickmaster_> Why would I get X?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Kolt: run:  mount   to see where tings are mounted
[10:31] <Lasers> Dickmaster_: It's responsible for all graphics you're seeing on your monitor.
[10:31] <Dickmaster_> And gnome is the window manager
[10:32] <wildbat> Kolt, it don't ~ mount it yourself
[10:32] <Gryllida> Dickmaster_, it's preinstalled, and a musthave. :)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Dickmaster_: the WM runs on top of the desktop environment (DE). The DE runs on top of the X server
[10:32] <Dickmaster_> I realize now that all that was pre-installed
[10:32] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: ok, that opened
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: use that
[10:32] <Dickmaster_> Now really, what are usefull programs that I should get (That aren't pre-installed)
[10:33] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: can I just open and copy and paste a certain file? It says I still have 41 mins for my shell to finish.
[10:33] <Lasers> Dickmaster_: Such as?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Dickmaster_: depends what you use your system for
[10:33] <Dickmaster_> General desktop user and amateur programmer
[10:33] <adamo> ciao a tutti
[10:33] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: etc/apt/source for example?
[10:33] <pppZero> is there something that triggers every time a random usb device is plugged in?
[10:34] <adamo> ciao
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: you can copy and paste the text to a file, then pastebin or upload the file somewhere
[10:34] <adamo> !list
[10:34] <kim_> Gryllida :http://pastebin.com/FPh7e77F
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Dickmaster_: then install build-essential and you will have an ANSI standard C and C++ compiler
[10:34] <Kolt> wildbat: And how do I mount a pendrive?
[10:34] <adamo> Qualcuno da Treviso?
[10:35] <Lasers> ActionParsnip: Heh. You don't even know if he's developing for websites or whatnot. P
[10:35] <Dickmaster_> Dammit how do I reach the terminal in ubuntu 11?
[10:36] <wildbat> Kolt: mount /dev/sdx /mounpoint
[10:36] <Lasers> Dickmaster_: You can set up a shortcut to invoke it with CTRL+T -- Look in Keyboard Shortcuts.  It's in Accessories --> Gnome-Terminal.
[10:37] <Kolt> wildbat:  Ty. Its mounted
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Lasers: well if there is no info, all I can do is guess can't I ;)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Dickmaster_: press CTRL+ALT+T and it will run. if you use terminal a lot I recommend you install guake
[10:38] <Lasers> ActionParsnip: True tat.
[10:38] <Dickmaster_> Thanks ActionParsnip and Lasers
[10:39] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: I think I need the ubuntu-restricted-extras to install before the site can work for me.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: which site?
[10:40] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: paste.com - I cannot see the security image. I think that requires flash.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: try:  http://www.pastie.org
[10:42] <Kolt> How do I connect to a wireless network in recovory mode (from shell)?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: or http://fpaste.org/
[10:42] <jiltdil> is ubuntu s/w center uses any torrent to download?
[10:43] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/2176985
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: if you want faster installs at command line, use apt-fast :)
[10:44] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:my question is not about that :)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: looks fine, ok copy the output of the commands I gave to a text file and pastebin that
[10:44] <janedoe> hello. does anyone know how to enable javascript with dooble?
[10:44] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:is apt-fast is new
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: do you mean this: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/7792/
[10:44] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: ok, I still have to wait for shell to finish, or can I open a second shell?
[10:46] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip: is apt-fast is providing good service that apt-get
[10:47] <Gryllida> jiltdil, just try it
[10:47] <jiltdil> firstly i have to install axel, am i right?
[10:48] <Alan> wildbat: thanks
[10:48] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: I opened a second shell (it works) and entered "lsb_release -a". The reply was "No LSB modules are available."
[10:48] <newobjectivec> hi
[10:48] <newobjectivec> anyone here?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: i use it, it rocks
[10:48] <Dickmaster_> Lots of people here
[10:48] <newobjectivec> cool
[10:48] <newobjectivec> how can i make the irc stamp time on every message?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: can you pastebin the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update     Thanks
[10:49] <newobjectivec> ?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> newobjectivec: which client?
[10:49] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:ok to use apt-fast firstly i have to install axel?
[10:49] <newobjectivec> the one from mirc channel
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: there is a PPA for it
[10:49] <newobjectivec> website
[10:50] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: how do I copy all text from shell?
[10:50] <spacebug-> I have some problems with gpg and ubuntu. I have set up a shortcut to run a script that uses gpg to decrypt a textfile and then open it in gedit. Then encrypt and sign it again and remove the cleartext file. This works great if I use passphrase but when using my key it does not work. Whyen running the script from commandline it works. Any idea?
[10:50] <newobjectivec> can some one answer me?
[10:50] <newobjectivec> how can i stamp tim on mirc?
[10:51] <Benkinooby> hi i have problems with updating http://pastebin.com/ng17nMCm i had some PPAs installed, but uninstalled and removed them from my sources list. any hints what i did wrong?
[10:52] <newobjectivec> hi
[10:52] <newobjectivec> its been one hour since i was asking for this people are coming and going, i was told this channel is full of people
[10:52] <newobjectivec> at least acknowledge that i asked
[10:52] <newobjectivec> i mean i'm being treated like casper
[10:52] <newobjectivec> i'm not invisible
[10:52] <Pirsch> newobjectivec: you asked
[10:52] <janedoe> yes you are ;P
[10:52] <ikonia> newobjectivec: we can see you
[10:53] <newobjectivec> :D
[10:53] <newobjectivec> so any idea on how to make messages have a time stamp on when they were sent?
[10:53] <ikonia> newobjectivec: what messages ?
[10:53] <janedoe> not me
[10:53] <newobjectivec> mirc message
[10:53] <ikonia> newobjectivec: mirc is a windows client
[10:53] <newobjectivec> like when you type
[10:53] <newobjectivec> how to make it sy you said so at so and so time
[10:54] <newobjectivec> oh
[10:54] <newobjectivec> ok
[10:54] <herkupus> newobjectivec: if you mean the service: it's IRC, not mirc
[10:54] <newobjectivec> no
[10:54] <newobjectivec> the client its self
[10:54] <newobjectivec> i idle in channels
[10:54] <newobjectivec> i just want to know when some one messaged me
[10:54] <newobjectivec> what time did they do it
[10:54] <ikonia> newobjectivec: mirc is a windows client - not a linux client
[10:54] <ikonia> newobjectivec: try the channel #mirc
[10:54] <newobjectivec> i see
[10:54] <herkupus> newobjectivec: so you are using a windows program (mirc) and you expect to get support for it in a linux channel?
[10:54] <newobjectivec> ok
[10:54] <Benkinooby> newobjectivec, isn't there a mirc channel?
[10:55] <newobjectivec> i just though ubunto is a place full fo people :D
[10:55] <newobjectivec> i didnt know that i went to another planet
[10:55] <newobjectivec> :D
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Pirsch: as you expect
[10:55] <ikonia> newobjectivec: we only support ubuntu linux here
[10:55] <janedoe> :S
[10:55] <newobjectivec> thats cool :)
[10:55] <newobjectivec> another question
[10:55] <newobjectivec> on this server there is a channel called objc
[10:55] <Benkinooby> newobjectivec, it is, but here people will help you with ubuntu, amybe some genera linux, but not windows and windows programs... there are channels with people who are better with that
[10:55] <newobjectivec> its an objective c channel
[10:56] <newobjectivec> i get a weird message everytime i try to get to it
[10:56] <Lasers> !enter | newobjectivec
[10:56] <ikonia> newobjectivec: please listen to what I've said "we support ubuntu linux only" not freenode, or mirc
[10:56] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: I've tried copying and pasting but I am unable to copy. It can only copy the lines I see but not further.
[10:56] <ikonia> newobjectivec: read freenode.net for information on how to use freenode
[10:56] <newobjectivec> what is freenode?
[10:56] <ikonia> newobjectivec: the IRC network you're on
[10:56] <ikonia> newobjectivec: read www.freenode.net
[10:56] <newobjectivec> everytime i try to get to this channel it says something aboutr r+
[10:57] <newobjectivec> calmn down
[10:57] <Benkinooby> troll
[10:57] <newobjectivec> whats wrong with you
[10:57] <Pirsch> ActionParsnip: thanks for all your help and patience, but a reinstall is simple enough and has worked in the past. I'd hoped there was one simple setting to fix the issue.
[10:57] <KAM> Is there a dev package for virtualbox ? I'm trying to write a guest addition for virtual box on ubuntu and I can find any header files in the system.
[10:57] <janedoe> so does anyone use dooble? I don't know how to enable javascript
[10:57] <jgeli> hi, need help. Installed Thunderbird but had to uninstall it coz the calendar is not that good. going back to evolution, but now evolution is carrying the name Thunderbird and its icon. How can I revert it back?
[10:57] <ikonia> newobjectivec: this is the last time I'll tell you - we support ubuntu linux only in this channel
[10:57] <newobjectivec> now i lost all the answers that were typed to me
[10:57] <ikonia> newobjectivec: www.freenode.net
[10:57] <Benkinooby> newobjectivec, there where no answers for you
[10:57] <jgeli> im on 10.10 BTW
[10:58] <Kolt> how do I connect to a wlan network from shell?
[10:58] <introuble-> hi, in our college, we have three campuses in three cities. we want to make record available on internet  that can be access by any privilaged user. records, tasks, activites.
[10:58] <introuble-> 2. we want to shift to IT based task management sheet from manual one. in which records apear like task given by one emplyee to other, time, warnings given. may be it gets red after three warning, or if task not completed.   indexing server to see completed/pending tasks. or all tasks of emply of one month. etc.
[10:58] <introuble-> is there an open source software like that which can suit our requirments. or be customisable?
[10:58] <ikonia> Kolt: iwconfig
[10:58] <newobjectivec> #mirc
[10:59] <Benkinooby> newobjectivec, http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.html read this... it tells you how do do stuff and where to find help for your problem
[10:59] <herkupus> newobjectivec: you should learn IRC basics first
[10:59] <wildbat> OH boy ~ give him the heavy foot .
[10:59] <ikonia> introuble-: trac or sugarCRM maybe a good starting point
[10:59] <Lasers> introuble-: Google Docs? I don't really know what you want -- but whatever. That was my first guess.
[10:59] <jgeli> anybody that knows how to solve my problem?
[10:59] <Benkinooby> newobjectivec, you have to type '/join #mirc'
[10:59] <introuble-> ikonia trac or sugarcrm ok..
[10:59] <ikonia> introuble-: not perfect for what you want, but a starting point
[11:00] <jpds> introuble-: Request Tracker?
[11:00] <ikonia> jpds: is RT fully open ?
[11:00] <jpds> ikonia: As in, sauce-wise?
[11:00] <ikonia> jpds: correcty
[11:00] <jpds> ikonia: Yes, it's Perl.
[11:00] <ikonia> oh, cool
[11:01] <Benkinooby> hello, can someone please help me with a pat/aptitude update problem. it seems some PPAs destroyed my update mechanism... http://pastebin.com/ng17nMCm
[11:03] <ikonia> Benkinooby: remove git ?
[11:03] <Lasers> !ppa | Benkinooby
[11:04] <Lasers> Benkinooby: That's what PPA are good at. Destroying stuffs.
[11:04] <Benkinooby> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/fVhYmYv8
[11:05] <pvh_sa> hey is there a way to restart unity? i'm on 11.04, and unity has stopped working right - it just starts shotwell, doesn't show a menu.... i mean restart without logging out...
[11:05] <ikonia> Benkinooby: ok, so you need to work out where you got git from in the first place, if possible reinstall/remove it
[11:05] <deem> pvh_sa: type in a terminal "compiz --replace &"
[11:06] <phper_> what is the difference between ubuntu amd64 and i386?
[11:06] <vlt> introuble-: Have a look at trac.
[11:06] <ikonia> phper_: 32 and 64 bit
[11:06] <jiltdil> phper:one is 64bit and the later one is 32 bit
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> phper_: one is for 64bit CPUs and the other will work on bot 32bit and 64Bit CPUs
[11:07] <phper_> ikonia: I am downloading wubi, but it seems that is downloading amd64 version, but my windows is XP, will it work on my machine?
[11:07] <Benkinooby> !paste
[11:07] <Lasers> phper_: It's hardware compatible. Nothing to do with whenever you're running XP or not.
[11:07] <phper_> Lasers: well, so wubi that uses amd64 will work in windows XP?
[11:07] <ikonia> phper_: if your machine is 64bit, yes
[11:08] <jgeli> hi, need help. Installed Thunderbird but had to uninstall it coz the calendar is not that good. going back to evolution, but now evolution is carrying the name Thunderbird and its icon. How can I revert it back?
[11:08] <Lasers> phper_: Look at your machine -- What can you tell us about it? Processor type?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> phper_: the arch of Windows is moot, wubi just uses (crappy) ntfs to store a file which is your Ubuntu "disk"
[11:08] <vlt> RickardAtWork: You'll have to install a boot loader like grub, otherwise booting from your usb drive won't work. You can try to dd your whole disk (not just partition) and try if the hard disk's geometry still matches the one of the flash drive.
[11:09] <Benkinooby> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/639417/ i fear i don't understand what you want to point out. so should i install the ppa again that gave me the git (and thereby corrupted it) do a reinstall, reuninstall and then remove the source again?
[11:09] <ikonia> Benkinooby: you got git from the PPA - in that case yes, and then remove it
[11:10] <vlt> Hello. When I run an OpenOffice presentation on 10.04 LTS in fullscreen (F5) mode, my gnome panel is still visible. How to avoid this?
[11:12] <villa> hello
[11:12] <phper_> ActionParsnip: I see
[11:12] <newobjectivec> ic C++ a lynix programing language?
[11:12] <villa> missing operating system, what's going on?
[11:12] <phper_> Lasers: at system I have this information:Intel(R) Core (TM) 2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz 1.87 GHz, 2.00 GB of RAM Does it tell you something?
[11:12] <ikonia> newobjectivec: it is use in "linux" yes
[11:13] <newobjectivec> does anyone know the difference between c++ and visual C++?
[11:13] <newobjectivec> trying to know the difference
[11:13] <phper_> Does Ubuntu uses this directory structure: var/www/html/? Also does it have directory /tmp/ ?
[11:13] <jpds> phper_: Yeah.
[11:14] <ikonia> phper_: you can lay it out as you want though
[11:14] <newobjectivec> ikonia is being text police
[11:14] <newobjectivec> more like text nazie
[11:14] <phper_> newobjectivec: C++ probably refers to ansi C++, the one you can compile with ming32, Visual C++ is the Microsoft compiler
[11:14] <phper_> jpds , ikonia : thanks
[11:15] <aum> how to change login and shutdown image on ubuntu 11.04
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> aum: you need a plymouth theme
[11:16] <Lasers> phper_: Seems to be 64-bit.
[11:16] <jgeli> @aum try plymouth
[11:17] <phper_> Lasers: many thanks for the information
[11:17] <jgeli> aum :  tyr also SBM, super boot manager. it has Burg, Grub and plymouth managers
[11:17] <aum> will i be able to set my own images using plymouth
[11:17] <jgeli> AUM yes, you can edit plytmouth
[11:17] <Lasers> phper_: No problem. Good luck with your goals. ;o
[11:18] <blargg> How do I have a script execute as root, without needing sudo? When I execute hddtemp here, it always executes as me, not root: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root   root       77 2011-07-07 06:14 hddtemp
[11:18] <phper_> Does ubuntu understands /www/ as /var/www/ also? in PHP?
[11:18] <opakavic> i accidently pressed ctrl+z while installing a app in terminal through apt-get
[11:18] <blargg> I've tried variations, like root myusername, only having s bit set for owner, etc.
[11:18] <jgeli> blargg try chmod
[11:18] <opakavic> now ican't able to install this app, its showing a error, unable to unlock
[11:18] <opakavic> Gryllida:
[11:19] <fairuz> opakavic: afaik, ctrl+z stopped the process
[11:19] <opakavic> Gryllida: are you there
[11:19] <fairuz> try fg or bg command to run the process back
[11:19] <blargg> jgeli, yes, I've used chmod to set the permissions as shown above, but it's not changing the userid (or at least, whoami says it's still me, and the smartctl command the script uses can't access /dev/sda)
[11:19] <opakavic> fairuz: now in the same terminal i used the same command to install the same app, its not working
[11:19] <Gryllida> opakavic, yes, I'm here.
[11:20] <opakavic> fairuz: see my error, here
[11:20] <Gryllida> opakavic, This sounds like you  have another instance of dpkg somewhere, gotta kill that first.
[11:20] <prabhakar>  hii friends
[11:20] <fairuz> yea, or just resume it
[11:20] <opakavic> yeah, how to find the running app now
[11:21] <opakavic> how to find that running dpkg, so that i can stop that instantly
[11:21] <prabhakar> my friend using 64 bit processor he want use ubuntu version 10.04 amd
[11:21] <fairuz> opakavic: try fg
[11:21] <fairuz> Does it continue the installation?
[11:21] <pvh_sa> deem, thanks, that restarted unity, but it froze up after a few seconds.
[11:21] <Gryllida> opakavic, Normally you find why it's running, like you have a running shell or window with it somewhere and wait for it to finish; otherwise `ps aux | grep dpkg`
[11:22] <jgeli> hi, need help. Installed Thunderbird but had to uninstall it coz the calendar is not that good. going back to evolution, but now evolution is carrying the name Thunderbird and its icon. How can I revert it back? Anyone?
[11:22] <Benkinooby> ikonia, readding the sources give me http://pastebin.com/FnFGB7fx seems it is complaining due to missing gpg keys... i looked up the site i got the ppa from but can not find out where the key is or how to install it... one ppa is located at http://ppa.launchpad.net/spring/ppa but i only see the files... ho can i recover the key?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> prabhakar: why not just use natty if you plan to use desktop (I assume desktop OS)
[11:23] <prabhakar> is it 32 bit  ubuntu os supports to install in 64 bit processor
[11:23] <ikonia> Benkinooby: the key should be in the PPA
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> prabhakar: yes 64bit CPUs can emulate 32bitness
[11:23] <prabhakar> is it working
[11:24] <opakavic> Gryllida: that command, shows this,  root      8848  0.0  0.0   3040   748 pts/0    R+   16:57   0:00 grep dpkg
[11:24] <opakavic> Gryllida: how to kill this
[11:24] <jgeli> Benkinooby try sudo add-apt-repository name-of-PPA
[11:24] <Gryllida> opakavic, that's not relevant, it's just the grep running; maybe `ps aux | grep apt`
[11:24] <jgeli> then sudo apt-get update
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> opakavic: that is the grep running
[11:25] <opakavic> its is showing 3 instances now
[11:25] <opakavic> hoe to kill the correct one
[11:25] <opakavic> root      8848  0.0  0.0   3040   748 pts/0    R+   16:57   0:00 grep dpkg
[11:25] <opakavic> root      8571  0.0  0.0   5168  1972 pts/0    T    16:20   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[11:26] <opakavic> root      8571  0.0  0.0   5168  1972 pts/0    T    16:20   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[11:26] <blargg> jgeli, I've got -rwsr-sr-x permissions, and have tried root blargg, blargg root, and root root as the group/owner combinations, but it always executes as me.
[11:26] <prabhakar>  is it there  any website to ubunte  64 bit iso image files supports intel processor
[11:26] <opakavic> prabhakar: hi,
[11:26] <Kingsy> anyone in here use tomboy for notes?
[11:26] <opakavic> prabhakar: find in ubuntu site
[11:27] <prabhakar> but it given an amd iso files
[11:27] <Guest25613> hey is there any one know about multitouch support in 11.04 ?
[11:27] <dimakx> hi
[11:28] <blargg> jgeli, oh, I just found that setuid doesn't work for scripts, only binary executables. I guess I'll have to rewrite this in C. Lame :)
[11:28] <prabhakar> opakavic:ubunte amd iso files support intel processor or not
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | opakavic
[11:29] <fairuz> prabhakar: You can use that as well
[11:29] <Benkinooby> jgeli, oh, remember that i used that command when i installed it back then!  seems i still do something wrong http://pastebin.com/3EhPrhQL atm moment i feel like a total moron for asking every little step... seems today is my stupid day
[11:30] <prabhakar> had you try anytime?
[11:30] <vlt> phper_: Could you define "understand", please?
[11:31] <Kingsy> nm
[11:33] <opakavic> ActionParsnip: i'm in root user, shall i user this command, root -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:33] <opakavic> ActionParsnip: i'm in root user, shall i use this command, root -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> prabhakar: the amd64 is just an old convention. It will work on intel cpus
[11:34] <Hansimat> Has someone get fai-setup working out of the box in 11.04?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> opakavic: copy the command and run it. I'm guessing you mean a root terminal
[11:35] <opakavic> i can't , this is error,  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:35] <opakavic> :S
[11:36] <ct529> hi everybody .... I have a host of windows files distributed over the machine, would like to remove all the spaces from the names .... is there a way to do it from CLI?
[11:39] <pvh_sa> Guest25613, yes i'm using that right now
[11:39] <pvh_sa> Guest21598, multitouch, that is.... what do you want to know?
[11:39] <vlt> ct529: An idea: Have a look at "find ... -exec" and regular expressions.
[11:40] <blargg> ct529, yeah, though it seems a risky operation. Why do they need to be removed?
[11:40] <pratz_> hey guys really i can not browse internet on 10.04, but i can download with a very good speed, can something restrict http protocol for speed ??
[11:40] <pratz_> i think ftp and bittorrent protocols get very good speed but http only 5-6kbps , any ideas guys ??
[11:41] <vlt> pratz_: Any derver?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> opakavic: do you have software centre open?
[11:41] <vlt> *server
[11:41] <villa> how can I install the flash plugin?
[11:41] <vlt> !flash | villa
[11:41] <pratz_> vlt: i have not installed any drivers
[11:41] <opakavic> ActionParsnip: don't know how to find that
[11:42] <opakavic> may be its running behind the screen
[11:42] <vlt> pratz_: server, not driver
[11:42] <pratz_> vlt: oooops you are asking about server, then only apache and mysql
[11:42] <ct529> blargg: I am not used to them, it just annoys me
[11:42] <blargg> ct529,tabcompletionmighthelp
[11:43] <vlt> pratz_: No, I mean ... when you test the download speed of HTTP, do you get these low numbers from any server?
[11:43] <pratz_> vlt: i have installed 10.04 2 days before as i though it is stable version, but i think this might be 10.04's problem though i am not sure
[11:44] <pratz_> vlt: to test at the first place the site is not opening itself , when i click on start test, it just keeps loading
[11:44] <pratz_> vlt: any other way to test the U/D speed ??
[11:44] <vlt> pratz_: Try wget (or curl)
[11:44] <TehAndrewRyan> howdy
[11:44] <pratz_> vlt: other than http protocol ??
[11:45] <TehAndrewRyan> i got a problem with my 10.04 install
[11:45] <TehAndrewRyan> rather, a lot of them
[11:45] <pratz_> TehAndrewRyan: me too dude with internet connection
[11:45] <TehAndrewRyan> same
[11:45] <TehAndrewRyan> not only that, graphics drivers etc
[11:46] <vlt> pratz_: Check your speed using "iperf" or watch packets fly in and out with "iftop".
[11:46] <Core> Hello people, I am having an issue with initramfs. For some reason it refuses to detect my eth0 network card
[11:46] <pratz_> TehAndrewRyan: i though it is the stable version because it is a LTS version
[11:46] <TehAndrewRyan> i can't set my color space to RGB for some reason, it's stuck at YU
[11:46] <TehAndrewRyan> YUV*
[11:47] <TehAndrewRyan> on my laptop with 10.04, the wireless randomly disconnects, can't reconnect until i restart it
[11:48] <ct529> blargg: yes, I have been pressing it so much I am getting carpal tunnel  :-D:-D
[11:48] <pratz_> vlt: but i will get a good D/U speed stats as bittorrent and ftp protocol are getting good speed, any way to test what speed i am getting for http protocol ??
[11:49] <pratz_> vlt: god it is really slow 3-4kbps while browsing
[11:49] <TehAndrewRyan> i've heard that ubuntu and ati doesn't like each other, can that be one of my problems?
[11:49] <TehAndrewRyan> cause i'm running a ati card on my desktop
[11:50] <antivirtel> Hi! How can I view (or convert to a more pupular format) a DGN file? http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/dgn (I think it was created with AutoCAD.)
[11:51] <TehAndrewRyan> wow, why is everybody joining and quitting like crazy?
[11:51] <szal> TehAndrewRyan: business as usual in a channel as large as this one
[11:52] <TehAndrewRyan> well can anyone help me?
[11:52] <robsean> I am new too
[11:53] <TehAndrewRyan> since noone's responding, i'm outta here
[11:53] <TehAndrewRyan> cya
[11:53] <robsean> huhu
[11:56] <CJay_> too many people with similar names :P
[11:56] <CJay_> should probably register
[11:57] <CJay_> so, to my network drive
[11:58] <CJay_> I did manage to actually login to the admin tools on the drive to find out the information about the server name on the network and the shares it has
[11:59] <introuble> hi, in our college, we have three campuses in three cities. we want to make record available on internet  that can be access by any privilaged user. records, tasks, activites.
[11:59] <introuble> 2. we want to shift to IT based task management sheet from manual one. in which records apear like task given by one emplyee to other, time, warnings given. may be it gets red after three warning, or if task not completed.   indexing server to see completed/pending tasks. or all tasks of emply of one month. etc.
[11:59] <introuble> is there an open source software like that which can suit our requirments. or be customisable?
[12:01] <vlt> introuble: Could you please first have a look at the tools reccommended to you and then ask again?
[12:01] <CJay_> there's lots of business software that does that introuble, yet nothing that's open sourse that I'm aware of
[12:03] <AlphaPsi> Hello, I was wondering if anybody knew a way to create Flash Games on Ubuntu. On windows there was FlashDevelop, but that is only for Windows. Is there an Ubuntu equivalent?
[12:03] <PsyCl0ne> Good morning all, I need some help with ubuntu server. Last night I was trying to fix errors that I was getting when I tried to ssh tunnle through it and now I think I locked myself out
[12:06] <tagny> Guest 33083 : why did you change your name?
[12:06] <Guest33083> tagny: i didn't - the system did it for me. my first time here.
[12:07] <vlt> PsyCl0ne: When happens when you try to ssh in?
[12:07] <blake> are private SSH keys without a passphrase any less secure? obviously if the private key fell into the wrong hands it would be, but otherwise?
[12:07] <tagny> PsyCl0ne I can advice U to reinstall ssh
[12:07] <PsyCl0ne> vlt: it refuses connection
[12:07] <PsyCl0ne> Ill explain why as well
[12:08] <tagny> Guest 33083 : So welcome!
[12:08] <PsyCl0ne> http://linuxindetails.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/channel-3-open-failed-administratively-prohibited-open-failed/
[12:08] <tagny> So reinstall Ur Os
[12:08] <PsyCl0ne> I copy and pasted root@remote-server:~# echo “PermitTunnel yes” >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config into the config saved then walked away from my laptop
[12:08] <blake> are private SSH keys without a passphrase any less secure? obviously if the private key fell into the
[12:09] <mordof> I've got a gtx 460 currently, and I'm looking into buying an 8600GS pci card - will my nvidia drivers allow me to use TwinView on 3 monitors that way?
[12:09] <blake>                wrong hands it would be, but otherwise?
[12:09] <PsyCl0ne> and when I got back to it, the connection was bugging out
[12:09] <blake> clear
[12:09] <blake> are private SSH keys without a passphrase any less secure? obviously if the private key fell into the wrong hands it would be, but otherwise?
[12:09] <CJay_> as a wondering, what do I need to do now that I have the device name of the network drive and the shares folder? Is there an easy way to add this? (I'm on ubuntu 11)
[12:09] <Lasers> blake: ssh-agent
[12:10] <blake> Lasers: huh?
[12:10] <PsyCl0ne> basically I was trying to fix this issue where randomly it would start acting up and spitting out "channel ##: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed" errors in the terminal
[12:10] <Pici> blake: Otherwise, they're no less secure.
[12:11] <Lasers> blake: "ssh-agent is a program that used together with OpenSSH or similar SSH programs provides a secure way of storing the passphrase of the private key."
[12:11] <blake> so if i don't plan to lose the private key, the passphrase serves no purpose
[12:12] <ojaswi> http://vizualize.me/vafca
[12:12] <Pici> blake: Its up to you.  You could also set your computer to auto-login and have no local passwords if you want.
[12:12] <ojaswi> many must like this appears cool. :D
[12:13] <Pici> !ot | ojaswi
[12:13] <Lasers> Spam.
[12:13] <PsyCl0ne> vlt: sorry about the huge and random spam but I hope you followed what kinda happened
[12:13] <Pici> blake: From what I've seen, passwordless keys are only used when they need to be used in scripts.
[12:14] <Guest5640> hello, i'm trying to share the printer which is connected to the server with notebooks at office, there's a ubuntu guide about cups on it's wiki but it's not detailed and i couldnt get it to work. can someone please tell me what i must do to share the printer with everyone who haves the same ip as the computer where the print is?
[12:20] <zamaliphe> how can i install intel 82G33/G31 VGA driver
[12:21] <PsyCl0ne> tagny: How would I go about reinstalling ssh if I cant get into my box. Im new to the server thing and nothing showes when I turn on the screen on the "server" computer
[12:21] <tagny> Please don't change my name!
[12:22] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: nothing will show on the server
[12:22] <Loonatic> It seems that all my flash related player stop working i only get a black rectangle in youtube no play button or else tried it with two different browser... any idea ?
[12:23] <Seven_Six_Two> Loonatic, I get that sometimes, but in my case it's because I use flashblock. Even with the whitelist, it still seems to mess up once in a while. I just reload and it usually works
[12:23] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: Where would I atleast begin, I can not ssh or telnet into my server, anyother ideas?
[12:24] <blargg> Loonatic, you could try reinstalling the flash plugin.
[12:24] <babu> i want to create a table in my mail... how to do in evolution....i see no options for creating table
[12:24] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: I would start with adding the -v option to your ssh command to see what errors you are getting
[12:24] <Loonatic> Seven_Six_Two: i'm not running any flashblock
[12:24] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: As of right now it keeps refusing access
[12:25] <Loonatic> blargg: do you know if i should remove the old one prior to re-install ?
[12:25] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: Try googling your exact error message
[12:25] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: check your sshd_config on the server to make sure you have access allowed
[12:25] <blargg> Loonatic, oh, hmmm, all the package manager controls is the installer, not the plugin itself.
[12:25] <Seven_Six_Two> babu, what client? I use evolution, and if I switch from plain text (my default) to html composer, there is a button in the new mail window
[12:26] <babu> sorry,, i didn't noticed...
[12:26] <Shinka> How can I ask grub to update its list ? I have installed Arch alongside Ubuntu *but* I can't see it in the menu (however I can open the partition from Ubuntu and the installation seems fine)
[12:26] <Pici> PsyCl0ne: Did you install ssh on your server?
[12:26] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: In putty when I type in my local ip address for my ssh server a window pops up "Network error: Connection refused"
[12:27] <PsyCl0ne> Pici: Yes I had it running and it was tunneling traffic
[12:27] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: putty?  are you on a windows box?
[12:27] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: Right now yes I am the ssh server is a different rig on my network
[12:27] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: sorry, don't know about troubleshooting windows
[12:28] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: I added a line to the sshd_config file while trying to fix the channel ##: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed output where my ssh tunnel would crap out
[12:29] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: Now I cannot access my ssh at all, I can get onto a linux laptop if you wish
[12:30] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: The line that I added to the end of it was root@remote-server:~# echo “PermitTunnel yes” >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:30] <blargg> Loonatic, you could try opening Ubuntu Software Center, searching for adobe flash plugin, and removing it, then installing it.
[12:30] <zamaliphe> how can i install intel 82G33/G31 VGA driver  pleases help
[12:30] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: sounds like you need to undo whatever it was you did to your sshd_config
[12:30] <zamaliphe> thanks
[12:30] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: How would I go about doing that?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> zamaliphe: which release?
[12:31] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: go over to your server, log in and edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> zamaliphe: lsb_release -d    will tell you
[12:31] <G0R> ?
[12:31] <bampersand> hey guys, i'm wanting to take a picture with my webcam every x seconds, and then compare it to a photo, and if the % difference < 70% then a script is executed, could you recommend me the tools for doing this? thanks.
[12:31] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: ok Im totally retarded how how would I go to my server??
[12:32] <vlt> Hello. When I run an OpenOffice presentation on 10.04 LTS in fullscreen (F5) mode, my gnome panel is still visible. How to avoid this?
[12:32] <c933103> Smaller not larger?…
[12:32] <Lasers> bampersand: Find out how to do them manually then put together a script. Tools? Dunno.
[12:32] <blargg> Loonatic, here, found this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Flash#Linux_and_Solaris
[12:33] <Lasers> bampersand: imagemagick?
[12:34] <bampersand> I don't know, i've managed to get it working on windows - but i have to do it manually, i'm wanting to do it automatically (through command line) on ubuntu
[12:35] <Lasers> bampersand: If this is one time thing -- then meh -- but if you intend to do it often -- then you want a script. Writing scripts always take up time because you have to test every thing.
[12:35] <bampersand> yes i'm wanting it to be running all the time.
[12:36] <maik_> servus
[12:37] <zamaliphe> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 11.04
[12:37] <babu> how to change the size of column after table creation in evolution...i don't find any dragging cntrl
[12:38] <fulc> Hi, I am trying Openstack cloud on a couple of server machines I have...now, the installation went smoothly but when i need to access the cloud at https://address:8773/ I get the following error Error 107 (net::ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR): SSL protocol error.
[12:38] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: I know im asking quite a bit from you but I can only ask to not leave me hanging here. I know noob stuff like this prolly annoys seasoned pros like yourself but atleast give me a kick in the right direction
[12:40] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: I am assuming you installed your server?  If you managed that, you should be able to log into it?
[12:40] <Loonatic> blargg: this is just weird in the help of youtube does video load without a problem but if i choose a video and try to play it... black box... it seem that the embeded are working
[12:40] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: I installed it and then I ssh into it, honestly I dont know of any other way my screen is blank....
[12:40] <blargg> Loonatic, so it works on web pages, but not when playing in a standalone player program like VLC?
[12:41] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: do you have a keyboard and monitor attached to your server?
[12:41] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: yes
[12:41] <Loonatic> the vlc portion work fine, it seem to be the main youtube type of video.... this is just weird...
[12:42] <c933103> How about other site like vimeo?
[12:42] <babu> how to change the size of column after table creation in evolution...i don't find any dragging cntrl
[12:42] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: then type ctrl+alt+F2 and you should be presented with a login prompt
[12:44] <hydester> hi.  suspend/hibernate doesn't work on natty.  it worked on maverick.  i realized that the Broadcom STA driver isn't running anymore, but hard to know if that is the reason.  any idea of ecryptfs, 64-bit, compiz, or broadcom driver is most likely the cause for suspend/hibernate failure?  lots of variables :(
[12:44] <PsyCl0ne> G0R:Nothing
[12:44] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: make sure you are pressing them all at the same time.  Failing that, just reboot the box
[12:44] <Loonatic> c933103: vimeo workinf fine...
[12:45] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: Im certain Im pressing them correctly gonna quick power cycle
[12:46] <jonalv> Could someone link me the faq for the new menu system comming before 11.04 so I can have a look at that before I start with long list of questions?
[12:47] <jonalv> s/before/with
[12:47] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: Its back up and its showing text thank you
[12:48] <blargg> Loonatic, could it be corrupt settings? You could try resetting Flash's settings manager: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
[12:48] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: no worries :)  Just undo what you did and carry on!
[12:48] <Loonatic> blargg : found the issue.... it seem that i cannot play video from a standard http request it need to be https...
[12:48] <Loonatic> i have no clue as why this is happening.., but i found a work-around.
[12:50] <bazhang> jonalv, before 11.04? you mean starting with 11.04, ie unity?
[12:50]  * jonalv will try that again. Is there a FAQ for the new Gnome dock system that came with 11.04 avilable that someone could give me a link to so I can have a read through that before I start asking you questions from my long list of questions in regards to it?
[12:50] <bazhang> !unity | jonalv you mean this?
[12:51] <c933103> !classic
[12:52] <jonalv> hm, for example the administration menu is now completely gone it seems, where can I find it?
[12:53] <bibic682> Hello, anyone know how to stream netfix in ubuntu ?
[12:53] <bazhang> jonalv, top right menu system settings?
[12:54] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: Thank you very very much
[12:54] <Pici> bibic682: You can't. :(
[12:55] <jonalv> bazhang: ooh, (I have been upgrading this desktop environment for so long it's turning in to a mess with all the old artifacts hanging around...)
[12:55] <Core> Could somebody help me configure network devices for initramfs ?
[12:55] <bazhang> jonalv, find it?
[12:55] <Pici> bibic682: Well, you could using a virtual machine, but thats not really a solution to me.
[12:55] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: Honestly I dont think you know exactly how much youve made my day today. Best wishes for you
[12:55] <jonalv> bazhang: yup, nexy questiuon is how do I move the dock back to the bottom of the screen?
[12:56] <bazhang> jonalv, you dont, not with unity. you can choose classic for the traditional gnome by choosing classic in the login window
[12:56] <G0R> PsyCl0ne: no worries mate :)
[12:57] <jonalv> bazhang: so I can only have that dock thing on the left of my desktop? Why do I suddenly start questionioning the maturity of this unity thing?
[12:57] <bazhang> jonalv, yes, only the left side. choose classic if its not to your liking
[12:57] <c933103> Excuse me, how to have Ubuntu on arm devices like phone?
[12:58] <jonalv> bazhang: oki, thanks
[12:58] <Pici> c933103: There are arm builds of Ubuntu, but its non-trivial to get it working on random devices.
[12:58] <bazhang> c933103, you might to ask in #ubuntu-arm
[12:59] <aLeSD> hi all
[12:59] <aLeSD> someone could suggest me an app to mount a video ?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: do you mean a DVD movie?
[13:00] <aLeSD> ActionParsnip, no ... a video to upload in youtube
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> c933103: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[13:00] <PsyCl0ne> G0R: Do you happen to have an SSH tunnel for your internet traffic?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: is it in a video camera of some kind?
[13:01] <aLeSD> ActionParsnip: no I have an audio track and I want to put it vith a video
[13:01] <mhb> which beter kubuntu 10.10 or 11.04 i have sony vaio vgn-fz25m 2 g ram intel core 2 duo process 2ghz
[13:02] <bibic682> Thanx Pici   thats what I thought
[13:02] <jiltdil> did any one really find apt-fast good as compared to apt-get :P
[13:02] <mhb> which beter kubuntu 10.10 or 11.04 i have sony vaio vgn-fz25m 2 g ram intel core 2 duo process 2ghz
[13:03] <bazhang> mhb, the latest is fine. why not try live cds of both and decide for yourself.
[13:03] <mhb> which beter kubuntu 10.10 or 11.04 i have sony vaio vgn-fz25m 2 g ram intel core 2 duo process 2ghz
[13:04] <bazhang> mhb, I just answered you
[13:04] <c933103> ……so what is beagleboards?
[13:04] <bazhang> c933103, hardware
[13:04] <Pici> c933103: A better question for #ubuntu-arm
[13:06] <vooze> Is there a good place to find cairo-dock themes? I've been google alot without luck,
[13:06] <mhb> is there any app to tweak kubuntu same like ubuntu tweak??????
[13:07] <maidou> hmm
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> mhb: it will tweak the same afaik, its teh same OS underneath
[13:07] <Girr> c.quakenet.org
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> mhb: ubuntu twak is just a gui for what the OS can already change.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: you may need mencoder or similar to put the two together
[13:08] <mhb> but kde dosnt have nautilus ?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> mhb: it can if you want, you will install a tonne of Qt deps if you install it
[13:09] <BlouBlou> mhb: it has dolphin
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> mhKubuntu uses Dolphin by default
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> GTK deps, sorry
[13:11] <Core> Could somebody help me configure network devices for initramfs ?
[13:13] <c933103> Thx for help.
[13:14] <techcrisis> sup all
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> hi techcrisis
[13:15] <Pici> Core: Could you please provide more information regarding what you're trying to do?
[13:15] <chipmonk> i wish i could persuade my two ubuntu 10.10s to share files
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: could use samba or sshfs easily
[13:15] <Core> Pici: i have an encrypted ubuntu server which i am trying to unlock from remote with dropbear
[13:15] <chipmonk> tried both
[13:16] <Core> Pici: main problem is that i can't get my network devices up in the initram
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: how did you  configure samba?
[13:17] <chipmonk> i have tried several instruction lists....guess i am just too stupid
[13:17] <chipmonk> well
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: not stupid, just inexperienced
[13:17] <Thraspic> Abyone heard of this problem:  I have a season of a TV show that isn't playing properly in mplayer.  The audio of the music and background noise is at full, normal volume, but all the dialogue is way low-volume.  The same file(s) played in VLC works fine.
[13:17] <chipmonk> first i tried shares-admin
[13:17] <Thraspic> *anyone
[13:18] <chipmonk> seems to set up fine
[13:18] <chipmonk> try to copy files and cant get permission to open folder
[13:19] <blargg> Thraspic, is music also quiet, or just dialog? Maybe mplayer is using some kind of surround output that treats the vocal channel differently.
[13:19] <chipmonk> then get smbd inactive and cannot activate it
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: then run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     set the password and you can authenticate as the user
[13:19] <c933103> Had you install proper codec?
[13:20] <Thraspic> blargg, Yeah, it's only the dialogue which is low-volume.
[13:20] <chipmonk> thraspic missing center channel
[13:21] <dmsuperman> How can I make the animations go away in unity? I like all the other aspects of the window manager but I'm on a work machine and I need my resources for other tasks
[13:21] <chipmonk> that added user root
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: you shouldn't be running stull like that as root, you should be using YOUR user
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: then samba users can authenticate as your user and get access
[13:22] <bazhang> dmsuperman, use unity-2d or try some of the ccsm settings
[13:22] <chipmonk> i typed in sudo smbpasswd -a $EMAN
[13:22] <dmsuperman> bazhang: It's still compiz?
[13:22] <dmsuperman> Ah, got it then
[13:22] <dmsuperman> Thought unity had taken that over
[13:22] <bazhang> dmsuperman, 2d?
[13:23] <dmsuperman> Yeah I have a 2d wall
[13:23] <Pici> chipmonk: what is $EMAN ?
[13:23] <chipmonk> EMAN is computer name
[13:23] <Pici> chipmonk: Thats not what you were asked to type though.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: nop, use:   sudo smbpsswd -a eman
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Pici: its confusion, I think I cleared it up
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: it's a username, not a computer name
[13:24] <Pici> ActionParsnip: chipmonk still needs to use his user's name no the hostname.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Pici: got that too :)
[13:24] <aLeSD> is it possible to create a video from one picture ?
[13:25] <bazhang> dmsuperman, seems that unity-2d still uses compiz to an extent, I'd choose classic and put on a dock if you want zero compiz as its quite bad without it
[13:25] <edbian> aLeSD: be rather boring wouldn't it?
[13:25] <dmsuperman> bazhang: I'll just disable the animations in compiz, it runs alright after that
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: if you quit messing with the root account and used sudo like normal, you would have fewer issues as the advise given here assume (and rightly so) that you do not. You are making it all harder for yourself
[13:25] <bazhang> dmsuperman, okay
[13:26] <gringoire> Is there a way to deal with not enought space errors?
[13:26] <chipmonk> how did i get ahold of the root?
[13:26] <chipmonk> was it the $ sign?
[13:26] <gringoire> My partition has 1 GB left, I don't know what causes the errors.
[13:27] <edbian> gringoire: The fact that you have 1Gb left.  How big is the hdd ?
[13:27] <aLeSD> edbian: yes
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: $ is the user prompt
[13:27] <gringoire> 232 gb, /dev/sda has 29 gb
[13:27] <gringoire> **/dev/sda5
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> gringoire: could uninstall unused kernels, frees up lots of space
[13:27] <edbian> aLeSD: Well, I'm sure it's possible.  Just make every frame the same image.
[13:28] <chipmonk> "sudo smbpasswd -a $EMAN" is what i typed
[13:28] <gringoire> ActionParsnip: already did that
[13:28] <canu-qumm> Corey: you there?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: I never said to run that. I said:    sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    if you change the commands given, you will get issues
[13:29] <chipmonk> then i typed " sudo smbpsswd -a eman"
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> gringoire: could install bleachbit  it's very good at freeing space. Have as many apps CLOSED as possible and watch the settings or it will remove stuff you want. Also avoid options which say they will take a long time
[13:29] <myk_robinson> i just installed an nvidia 8400gs in my desktop and cannot boot to X. How can I resolve the graphics issue? Currently in a virtual terminal
[13:29] <chipmonk> and got " sudo smbpsswd -a eman"
[13:29] <gringoire> ActionParsnip: I can't even install anything :( dpkg is broken
[13:29] <usr13> gringoire: du -sk * | sort -n  <Will list file sizes, largest last>
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: No, type the command EXACTLY as I gave it. I give the exact command so you can copy and paste it
[13:30] <myk_robinson> another question, how can I boot into low graphics mode
[13:30] <MikeH`> Hi guys, I have just added a new hard drive to a headless box. I need to format it as NTFS and transfer some files over
[13:30] <MikeH`> can this be done easily?
[13:30] <gringoire> usr13: thanks
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> gringoire: ok what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[13:30] <chipmonk> "No command 'smbpsswd' found, did you mean:"
[13:30] <usr13> ls -lS |grep ^d    <will show directories sorted by size>
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[13:31] <gringoire> ActionParsnip: E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[13:31] <chipmonk> it asks for new SMB password
[13:31] <blargg> Loonatic, oh man, now MY youtube is showing black for Flash too. You've infected me just by talking about it! :)
[13:31] <jrib> MikeH`: sure, you can just use mkfs.ntfs
[13:32] <chipmonk> mouse2
[13:32] <MikeH`> jrib, Thanks, secondly, is there any easy way to find sizes of devices?
[13:32] <jrib> MikeH`: if you need to partition, you can use fdisk or parted
[13:32] <MikeH`> I've no idea what the device will be, but it is the only 2TB drive
[13:32] <jrib> MikeH`: fdisk -l
[13:32] <usr13> blargg: Loonatic you might just update / re-install flashplayer plugin
[13:32] <Kartagis> hi
[13:33] <gringoire> usr13: apparently my desktop is 1 GB, moving it now
[13:33] <chipmonk> what does that do for me?
[13:33] <TehAndrewRyan> hello
[13:33] <usr13> blargg: Loonatic http://trryhend.startlogic.com/
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> gringoire: try:  sudo apt-get clean
[13:33] <gringoire> ActionParsnip: no output whatsoever
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> gringoire: good, how much space is free now?
[13:34] <chipmonk> i go to places and right click on network and get nautilus cannot handle network locations
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> gringoire: in linux, no news is good news
[13:34] <gringoire> :D happy to hear that
[13:34] <aalex> hello
[13:34] <TehAndrewRyan> why is my wireless disconnecting every now and then?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> chipmonk: what is the output of:   lsb_release -d
[13:34] <entel> i run startx and xorg starts up into the gnome desktop but most of the screen is cropped (black), can post my xorg log if anyone thinks they could help
[13:34] <aalex> What is the best way to cope with an optimus nvidia graphics card on Ubuntu?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: when it drops, run:  dmesg | tail
[13:35] <TehAndrewRyan> should i type that in the terminal
[13:35] <aalex> I have a Lenovo W520, but it's an Optimus and I'm unhappy
[13:35] <TehAndrewRyan> ?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> entel: X should run by default
[13:35] <aalex> Can I have GLX in any way?
[13:35] <chipmonk> ubuntu 10.10
[13:35] <deven_> i want know any linux antivirus which works, i tried avast,avira, avg, etc. they dont work on my pinguy os linux
[13:35] <entel> ActionParsnip: yes it does but ive been changing the video driver
[13:36] <jrib> deven_: this is ubuntu support
[13:36] <usr13> deven_: What are you trying to protect?
[13:36] <bazhang> deven_, pinguy? try pinguy support  ---> perhaps #pinguy
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> aalex: bumble can handle that optimus nonsense. I'm not sure how good it is. Its not hugely supported in Linux afaik
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:36] <aalex> For example: can I disable the Optimus switching and just use the Nvidia, not the intel card?
[13:36] <bazhang> usr13, its not ubuntu its pinguy
[13:36] <deven_> oh ok thanks guys.. but ubuntu softwares work on pinguy os
[13:37] <Kartagis> what's wrong with 30 16 * * thu today=`date +%F` && mkdir /var/www/$today && cd /var/www/$today && /usr/bin/httrack --list /var/www/websites.txt as a cronjob?
[13:37] <TehAndrewRyan> ActionParsnip: should i type it in the terminal?
[13:37] <deven_> can u tell me any antivirus which works on ubuntu properly
[13:37] <aalex> ActionParsnip, no success with bumblebee yet. I installed it... now there is no uninstall script :-/
[13:37] <bazhang> deven_, clamav
[13:37] <MikeH`> jrib, I assume there is no consequence of formatting an NTFS drive under Linux, assuming it's going back in a windows machine?
[13:37] <edbian> deven_: Antivirus is not necessary on Linux
[13:37] <usr13> deven_:  You don't need anti-virus for your linux system.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> aalex: go moan to nvidia, they may help. Maybe someone else can help
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> aalex: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/bumblebee-gets-a-ppa-brings-nvidia-optimus-graphics-switching-to-ubuntu/
[13:37] <jrib> MikeH`: not that I'm aware, no
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> aalex: if you use that ppa, it may be able to uninstall it after you install from the ppa
[13:38] <deven_> thanks bazhang, edbian, usr13 for prompt replies, my query is solved
[13:38] <jiltdil> When i plays nexuiz game after quiting it the screen resolution automatically changes any cause for this ,how to fix this?
[13:38] <chipmonk> this is a fresh load....i had 11.04 on but unity is hard to use with i menu bar and two monitors
[13:38] <TehAndrewRyan> what does the dmesg | tail thing do?
[13:39] <aalex> ActionParsnip, thanks for the link
[13:39] <bazhang> TehAndrewRyan, gives us some troubleshooting info
[13:39] <usr13> TehAndrewRyan: Lets you look at dmesg but just the last bit of it.
[13:39] <changeTheWorld> hi
[13:39] <volvering> hello i am using ubuntu 11 with unity  and the left menu pannel is not auto hidding anymore itself and i dont know how to fix it
[13:39] <TehAndrewRyan> so i type that in the terminal or what?
[13:39] <changeTheWorld> wow it worked
[13:39] <usr13> TehAndrewRyan: yES
[13:39] <changeTheWorld> i don't really like the ubuntu window manager
[13:39] <TehAndrewRyan> okay
[13:39] <changeTheWorld> is there a way to change it
[13:40] <changeTheWorld> it's preety but feels clumsy to me (compared to windows 7)
[13:40] <usr13> changeTheWorld: You can change it.  There is ubuntu-classic
[13:40] <chipmonk> volvering it won't
[13:40] <zamaliphe> ActionParsnip: can you help me with how to install intel
[13:40] <changeTheWorld> how to change to ubuntu-classic
[13:40] <chipmonk> unity still a work in process
[13:40] <TehAndrewRyan> typing that would display networking info, or what?
[13:40] <extraclassic> changeTheWorld: KDE is most like windows 7
[13:40] <changeTheWorld> oh
[13:40] <bazhang> changeTheWorld, choose at login window
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> zalbisser: you can't install intel. it's a company
[13:40] <changeTheWorld> but how do i change the window manager
[13:40] <zamaliphe> ActionParsnip: can you help me with how to install intel VGA driver ?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> zalbisser: it's part of the default install
[13:41] <volvering> chipmonk,  what do u mean¿
[13:41] <changeTheWorld> btw guys you should all run  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda    it will speed up your system 10x
[13:41] <BluesKaj> extraclassic, I beg to differ , windows 7 tries to emulate KDE :)
[13:41] <usr13> TehAndrewRyan: You will find the option on the login screen.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> zalbisser: its already installed. You may nned an xorg.conf to set it up. What is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[13:42] <volvering> chipmonk,  it was auto hidding itself till yesterday, now i cant hide it and it s bothering me
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: they all try to emulate Xerox ;)
[13:42] <gringoire> ActionParsnip and usr13: thank you all it solved it.
[13:42] <changeTheWorld> i wll try kde
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> gringoire: np man
[13:42] <vlt> Hello. When I run an OpenOffice presentation on 10.04 LTS in fullscreen (F5) mode, my gnome panel is still visible. How to avoid this?
[13:42] <chipmonk> it takes up left half of screen doesn't it?
[13:42] <spacebug-> how can I setup the keyring so it does not cache my passwords? (i.e always ask for my password) ?
[13:42] <chipmonk> or left one third
[13:43] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, Xerox  ?  Solaris ?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> vlt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1512876
[13:43] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[13:43] <lucidguy> hello
[13:43] <lucidguy> Drawing network diagrams, anyone recommend a linux app?
[13:44] <usr13> lucidguy: gimp
[13:44] <bazhang> !info dia
[13:44] <Pici> lucidguy: dia ?
[13:44] <bazhang> lucidguy, ^^
[13:44] <stetho> How do I set an environment variable so it's persistent? Specifically I want to set SNMPCONFPATH for all users of a machine but putting this in /etc/environment doesn't seem to work.
[13:44] <chipmonk> i had such a good time with unity i am using 10.10 with gnome
[13:45] <lucidguy> thanks .. will give dia a try
[13:45] <mattgyver> Can i just move my modules and themes to /sites/all and them still work, or will i have to make any adjustments other than perhaps flushing the caches?
[13:45] <blargg> Anyone else using 10.04 with FF 3.6.18 and now have YouTube videos show up as just black?
[13:45] <mattgyver> disregard, wrong chan ;X
[13:46] <usr13> blargg: Did you update adobe flashplayer-plugin?
[13:46] <vlt> ActionParsnip: It says it's solved in 10.04.1 (/etc/issue says Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS here). Any idea what else to do?
[13:46] <blargg> usr13, yeah, removed and reinstralled flashplugin-installer with Synaptic, which downloaded latest plugin
[13:46] <melter> does anyone know when the libreoffice ppa will be updated for 3.4?
[13:46] <usr13> blargg: Did you restart firefox?
[13:47] <asdfasleilse> hi
[13:47] <blargg> usr13, yes
[13:48] <zamaliphe> i cannot find the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[13:48] <usr13> blargg: Probably just installed same one. Uninstall it again and go to get.adobe.com/flashplayer and download the .deb file and your package manager will install it for you.
[13:48] <blargg> usr13, looks like it was three days ago that I last viewed YouTube videos fine. Since then I updated from I believe FF 3.6.17 to 3.6.18, and the Flash plugin. I'm wonder whether they broke something.
[13:49] <blargg> usr13, are you saying I should install an older version of the flash plugin?
[13:49] <usr13> blargg: No, I am saying you should install the newest.
[13:51] <opa> че за шняга тут
[13:51] <blargg> url13, FF doesn't know how to download apt: URLs
[13:51] <usr13> blargg: Do it manually and place the file libflashplayer.so in the ~/.mozilla/plugins/ directory  (which is where firefox looks first for it).
[13:51] <jpds> !ru | opa
[13:52] <usr13> blargg: What are you talking about?  "FF doesn't know how to dowload apt: URLs"?
[13:52] <c933103> !zh
[13:52] <zamaliphe> where can i find xorg.conf as i cannot find it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:53] <usr13> blargg: What version of FF do you have?
[13:53] <glenn__> is there a way to share ligthning 1.04 on xp/linux
[13:53] <MikeH`> wow
[13:54] <MikeH`> has anyone initialised a 2TB drive recently?
[13:54] <blargg> usr13, FF 3.6.18. apt url: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qta32c&s=7
[13:54] <chipmonk> action did you look at priv msgs i sent you?
[13:54] <MikeH`> ~half hour later, and I'm only on 6% :/
[13:54] <c933103> ... why #ubuntu-hk have no op/topic?
[13:55] <compdoc> MikeH`, how are you doing it?
[13:55] <compdoc> MikeH`, takes about 30 secs for me
[13:55] <usr13> blargg: Just download the file.  Right click on the link and choose "Save Link as"
[13:55] <MikeH`> compdoc, Created a primary partition in fdisk, and used mkfs.ntfs
[13:55] <blargg> usr13, right click->save link as brings up same dialog.
[13:55] <usr13> blargg: You must have changed the defaults
[13:55] <MikeH`> I wonder if I should just pull it out and do it in a Windows machine
[13:56] <usr13> blargg: Yes it does.  Save the file to ~/Downloads
[13:56] <blargg> usr13, it brights up the same dialog I linked a picture to above
[13:56] <usr13> blargg: Save it to the Downloads directory
[13:56] <compdoc> MikeH`, you dont use a desktop? command line only?
[13:57] <MikeH`> compdoc, THe linux server is headless, yes.
[13:57] <usr13> blargg: Which file did you choose?
[13:57] <MikeH`> I'll try initialising it on a windows box
[13:57] <usr13> blargg: You are supposed to choose the .deb file.  (The one for Ubuntu)
[13:57] <compdoc> MikeH`, I like gparted for that, but parted should work just as well
[13:57] <blargg> usr13, APT for Ubuntu 10.04+. There IS NO .deb file in the popup.
[13:58] <Guest59675> hello!
[13:58] <usr13> blargg: Yes that is it.
[13:58] <chipmonk> I have three computers in network one windows7 two ubuntu 10.10 I want to share files between them
[13:58] <blargg> usr13, APT for Ubuntu 10.04+ gives this url for the download button: apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$distro-partner
[13:59] <compdoc> chipmonk, use samba on the 2 ubuntu
[13:59] <TehAndrewRyan> i experience 10.04 more buggy than the 10.10 version
[13:59] <usr13> blargg: Oh I see.  Yea just go with the apturl
[13:59] <yacc> How does one move a Gnome Panel from one screen to another?
[13:59] <yacc> (dual monitor here)
[14:00] <usr13> blargg: ... and enable the additional software channel.  Is that what it asks?
[14:02] <yacc> Found it, disable expand, than one can drag the panels around.
[14:04] <usr13> blargg: You can just download the tar.gz file if you want.
[14:04] <Kartagis> what's wrong with 30 16 * * thu today=`date +%F` && mkdir /var/www/$today && cd /var/www/$today && /usr/bin/httrack --list /var/www/websites.txt as a cronjob? it doesn't work
[14:07] <usr13> blargg: Because it is just a file you place in the plugins directory.    ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[14:09] <blargg> usr13, I just downloaded the .tar.gz, and the only important item is libflashplayer.so. I compared this with the versions already installed, and they match (used cmp)
[14:09] <minimec> yacc: The panel puts itself on the primary screen. So on a dual screen setup, you have to change the primary screen with the according tool (depends on card and driver you use)
[14:09] <yacc> minimec, well, I do have panels on both screens, ...
[14:09] <mgolisch> actualy you can set that in gconf
[14:10] <yacc> Guess the new card/driver/X setup switched the primary monitor, so the two panels showed on the wrong monitors, ...
[14:10] <usr13> blargg: So where is it?  in ~/.mozilla/plugins/ ?
[14:10] <rabbit1> can i upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04 ?
[14:10] <rabbit1> and 8.04 to 11.04 ?
[14:10] <usr13> blargg: Is it anywhere else?  Check and see.   locate libflashplayer.so
[14:10] <bazhang> !upgrade | rabbit1 please have a look
[14:10] <rabbit1> !upgrade
[14:10] <h00k> rabbit1: you'll have to do incremental upgrades: 9.10 -> 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04, and see that !upgrade link ^
[14:11] <rabbit1> ok thank you
[14:11] <blargg> usr13, locate libflashplayer.so shows two, one in /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/ and another in /usr/share/ubufox/plugins/. Going to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ shows up fine, and the Flash content there works.
[14:11] <Jensit> heyho
[14:12] <minimec> yacc: You would have one large panel with the unity desktop, while the launchers would be on the primary screen.
[14:12] <`greenlight> are there any apps for ubuntu that is like itunes? or can anyone suggest a tool for ubuntu that is for ipod?
[14:12] <usr13> blargg: cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[14:12] <zamaliphe> ok i found that xorg.conf has been removed how can i edit my screen resoloion now ?
[14:12] <bazhang> `greenlight, banshee can do that
[14:12] <`greenlight> oh, thanks for the input bazhang
[14:13] <astraljava> Kartagis: Which part is failing? Quite impossible to say without details.
[14:13] <blargg> usr13, given that Flash content it working fine on other sites, I'm wondering why that would help.
[14:13] <usr13> blargg: Or first see if it is already there.
[14:13] <rabbit1> having problems changing ip address to static, if changed internet doesn't work
[14:13] <blargg> usr13, there's not even a plugins dir there :)
[14:13] <usr13> ls ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[14:13] <minimec> yacc: I see that you can move around the panel without 'expand', but when you expand again it moves back to the primary screen (using e17 on dual screen)
[14:13] <Kartagis> astraljava: well, I can see it running, but it doesn't do what I tell it to do
[14:14] <yacc> minimec, *shrug*, I'm using metacity.
[14:14] <KM0201> usr13: /.mozilla/plugins is not created by default, you have to create it, then paste libflashplayer.so there
[14:14] <minimec> yacc: That sould not change. I simply load the gnome-panel in my e17 session.
[14:14] <KM0201> usr13: however, i don't think thats gonna fix the 64bit flash problem
[14:14] <blargg> usr13, anyway, created dir and copied, same, Youtube just shows black for video :(
[14:14] <usr13> KM0201: Well, it used to be created by default.
[14:15] <KM0201> usr13: hm,m not in quite a while
[14:15] <usr13> blargg: Are you on a 64 bit system?
[14:15] <blargg> usr13, no, 32-bit single-core
[14:15] <Kartagis> astraljava: what I get in the log is this:
[14:15] <KM0201> blargg: you're having this prob on a 32bit system?
[14:15] <Kartagis> Jul  7 17:15:02 mtozses-sabanci CRON[26696]: (mtozses) CMD (today=`date +)
[14:15] <Kartagis> Jul  7 17:15:02 mtozses-sabanci CRON[26695]: (CRON) error (grandchild #26696 failed with exit status 2)
[14:15] <Kartagis> Jul  7 17:15:02 mtozses-sabanci CRON[26695]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[14:15] <usr13> blargg: ls ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[14:15] <usr13> What does that say  ?
[14:16] <blargg> usr13, $ ls ~/.mozilla/plugins prints libflashplayer.so
[14:17] <usr13> blargg: cmp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[14:17] <KM0201> ..
[14:17] <usr13> blargg: cd ~/Dowloads ; cmp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[14:17] <blargg> usr13, successful
[14:18] <astraljava> Kartagis: $ `date +F%`
[14:18] <astraljava> F%: command not found
[14:18] <usr13> blargg: Do the files differ?
[14:18] <astraljava> Kartagis: Is that supposed to work somehow?
[14:18] <blargg> Files are same. I just tried the Adobe Flash settings manager and deleted all website-specific settings, same.
[14:18] <Kartagis> astraljava: it works in the shell
[14:18] <usr13> blargg: cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[14:19] <usr13> and yer done
[14:19] <blargg> usr13, the files match, I don't see the point of doing the same thing over and over :)
[14:19] <KM0201> blargg: curious, do you have chrome installed?
[14:19] <usr13> blargg: Well, that is what I was asking.
[14:19] <usr13> blargg: do you have it in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/  ?
[14:20] <KM0201> usr13: ls showed it was there...
[14:20] <outer_space> is there any program on ubuntu that lets you browse fonts and filter them by sans-serif or rounded corners and other features?
[14:20] <blargg> I'm going to reboot, try again, then if that doesn't work, boot off a mirror of my machine from a month or so ago. I'm predicting that it'll still be broken, on the hunch that Youtube broke something, not Flash.
[14:20] <usr13> KM0201: He said he is using FF 3.6.18
[14:20] <usr13> blargg: Rebooting will not do anything.
[14:20] <KM0201> blargg: why don't you try upgrading firefox?...
[14:21] <usr13> blargg: You first told me that  ~/.mozilla/plugins   did not exist.  Was that correct?  Or were you just typing it wrong?
[14:21] <blargg> usr13, I created the plugins dir
[14:21] <KM0201> usr13: no, that was right, /.mozilla/plugins does not exist, you have to create it... and have had to for a while
[14:21] <usr13> blargg: OH... well, I don't know if it will work that way.
[14:21] <Broseph> I want to have multiple static IPs on ubuntu server 11, from my reading I've found that something like this will work: http://pastebin.com/dwPmj2Lh, but that seems a bit inefficient. Is there a better way?
[14:22] <blargg> I use FF 3 because I tire of constant upgrades and breakages and stupid new features. Hell, if I'd used FF 4, I'd have to be upgrading to FF5 in a month or so.
[14:22] <KM0201> blargg: 1. why are you not upgrading firefox? is there some reason?
[14:22] <usr13> blargg: cmp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[14:22] <astraljava> Kartagis: Ahh... so it does, there was some issue I can't think of.
[14:22] <KM0201> usr13: he already has that file there.
[14:23] <KM0201> he moved it there when he created the directory
[14:23] <edbian> KM0201: He really didn't wanna answer that question!
[14:23] <usr13> KM0201: YOu are correct.  He should probably upgrade to FFv4
[14:23] <Kartagis> astraljava: FYI, #bash tells me I need to escape the % in a cronjob
[14:23] <astraljava> Bah, I had F and % moxed.
[14:23] <edbian> KM0201: For the record he'd have to upgrade to FF5 a week ago
[14:23] <astraljava> mixed, that is.
[14:23] <KM0201> edbian: lol, i know.. :)
[14:24] <pppZero> Broseph, that will work, and its about as quickly/efficiently as you can bring up 3 interfaces afaik
[14:24] <usr13> KM0201: He did not create /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ dir  He created ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[14:24] <KM0201> ah ok.
[14:24] <KM0201> usr13: well, all i can say is, when i create /.mozilla/plugins   and add libflashplayer.so   there... Flash works.
[14:24] <KM0201> cuz i never install it from synaptic
[14:24] <usr13> edbian: Is it in the repos for 10.04?
[14:24] <Broseph> pppZero, it's just one interface with a shared gateway and netmask, do I need to use the auto eth0:n notation?
[14:25] <edbian> usr13: IDK what's in the repos for 10.04
[14:25] <KM0201> usr13: but regardless, this was a common problem last night w/ 64bit flash... surprised he was using 32bit.
[14:25] <usr13> KM0201: Ok, well, it works for me too.  And I have one system with FF 3.6.18  and one with FF 4  and they both work fine.
[14:25] <astraljava> Kartagis: Right, good that you found it.
[14:25] <KM0201> dunno.
[14:25] <usr13> KM0201: Ok well, thanks for the help.
[14:26] <Kartagis> astraljava: thanks anyway for trying
[14:26] <KM0201> usr13: i'm over it... :)
[14:26] <astraljava> Kartagis: Thanks for educating me. :)
[14:26] <KM0201> usr13: most the people i talked to w/ the 64bit flash problem, flash was working in Chrome, but not firefox 5.0...  which makes me suspect it was a firefox update
[14:26] <Kartagis> astraljava: it's mostly a win-win situation
[14:27] <blargg> I rebooted, cleared FF disk cache (nothing more), and power-cycled my cable modem and router, and now YouTube works fine.
[14:27] <monk7878> is intel 845gvsr supported in 11.04 ?
[14:27] <KM0201> blargg: hmm, interesting
[14:27] <KM0201> not sure what cycling the modem/router would do.. but ok.
[14:27] <usr13> KM0201: It is a convoluted situation.  FF will use the plugin from a number of different directories, (3 I think), and it all depends on which one it looks in.  It appears to me that FF looks in ~/.mozilla/plugins first.  But not totally sure.
[14:27] <blargg> KM0201, I should have done each separately, so I could figure out exactly what the cause was. Oh well.
[14:28] <KM0201> blargg: so.. why aren't you upgrading firefox and keeping it current?.. doesn't make a lot of sense that you don't want to upgrae firefox, then complain when something doesn't work
[14:28] <Broseph> say I have a block of 100 IPs, do I need 500 lines in my etc/network/interfaces
[14:29] <usr13> blargg: It is more-than-likely an older version of libflashplayer.so that FF was using.
[14:29] <blargg> KM0201, because they've apparently made lots of changes, and changes = breakage. I'll probably upgrade in a few months.
[14:29] <pppZero> Broseph, only if you want all of those IPs to go to one machine / physical nic
[14:29] <KM0201> blargg: thats an unusual approach to take... change doesn't always mean breakage, inf act, 5.0 works quite well...
[14:30] <blargg> KM0201, for example, does FF4 work well with the Global Menu on Lucid?
[14:30] <monk7878> :-| is intel 845gvsr mobo supported in 11.04 ?
[14:30] <monk7878> earlier i tried KDE and everything crashed
[14:30] <daysmen> evolution no longer retrieves mail using exchange plugin - is there a CURE for this ?
[14:30] <ghisetti> [GM]Orald
[14:30] <KM0201> blargg: well, i don't use Lucid, so i can't really give you an answer to that
[14:31] <usr13> blargg: You may find it in three places:  ~/.mozilla/plugins/  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins  &  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.18/plugins/  And I THINK FF looks for plugins in the directories in that order.  Not totally sure, but...
[14:31] <usr13> it's the last two I'm not sure of.
[14:31] <blargg> usr13, any reason locate wouldn't fine them? I'll try updating the database to be sure.
[14:32] <usr13> blargg: That is the key.  Depends on when locate was updated
[14:32] <usr13> blargg: updatedb
[14:33] <kingofswords> hi i cant load certain websites in ubuntu....any ideas?
[14:33] <blargg> usr13, just the ones I mentioned, which match the latest I downloaded.
[14:33] <usr13> blargg: But the default behaviour of the ubuntu package manager has historically been to use ~/.mozilla/plugins/  AFIK
[14:35] <blargg> usr13, I wonder whether my /home partition becoming full had any effect. I freed space once it did, but maybe that screwed up something temporarily.
[14:37] <WITRchris> Is there any way to set up postfix+dovecot so that messages sent from my domain to my domian have to be authenticated? I've already get auth set up so relay access is denied
[14:37] <venol> Excusme, How I can accelerate mailgraph to update rrd database without waiting for 5 minutes ?
[14:38] <WITRchris> postfix currently talks to dovecot for authentication
[14:39] <venol> WITRchris: Hmm, can you explain about your problem ?
[14:41] <WITRchris> venol: basically,  people can telnet to mydomain.com:25 and send messages from <whoever>@mydomain.com to <me>@mydomain.com
[14:41] <WITRchris> i want to mitigate this.
[14:42] <usr13> That's possible.  I don't know.  But then, there's a lot I don't know.  :\
[14:43] <Stevethepirate> WITRchris: hello
[14:43] <WITRchris> Stevethepirate: hello.
[14:43] <Stevethepirate> So you can either disable this functionality (called 'relay') within the smtpd
[14:43] <Stevethepirate> or you can firewall deny deny them.
[14:43] <Stevethepirate> *dent
[14:44] <venol> WITRchris: Hmm, I think default configuration postfix avoid mail relay with mynetworks parameter, but That's my opionion
[14:44] <WITRchris> Stevethepirate: i've already postfix set to deny relay to unauthenticated users
[14:44] <WITRchris> so a spammer can't use my smtp server to send messages to whatever domain he wishes
[14:45] <dr_willis> but you want authenticated users to be able to relay..
[14:45] <cindy_> aside from system reload is there anyway to recover a lost password in 10.10?
[14:45] <WITRchris> dr_willis: right
[14:45] <dr_willis> cindy_,  just set a new password.
[14:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword cindy_
[14:46] <dr_willis> or edit the passwd file to not have a password for the user, login via the user. and then set a password
[14:46] <dimas_> could someone explain me the alsa configuration?   hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
[14:46] <WITRchris> >edit the passwd file
[14:46] <WITRchris> > she probably lost her sudo account's password
[14:46] <Pici> WITRchris: That won't help.
[14:46] <dr_willis> then you fall back to live cd. :) chroot, and passwd
[14:46] <dhasenan> Or single user mode.
[14:47] <dr_willis> however you aer not 'recoverying' the paswword.. you are setting a new one. :)
[14:49] <kingofswords> i cant access soe websites in ubuntu...is there anywhere i can look 4 help/advice to sirt this out
[14:49] <venol> Excusme, How I can accelerate mailgraph to update rrd database without waiting for 5 minutes ? I have change $rrdstep=60 to $rrdste=10 on /usr/sbin/mailgraph, but it is not affect.
[14:49] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  what sites for example?
[14:50] <kingofswords> amazon
[14:50] <dr_willis> what browser? can you ping amazon.com?
[14:50] <kingofswords> dr_willis, it was originally modaco but thats fine now but amazon doesnt load
[14:50] <kingofswords> dr_willis, ff and chrominum
[14:50] <BluesKaj> kingofswords, make sure you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[14:51] <dr_willis> can you ping amazon.com, can you ping  72.21.211.176, does http://72.21.211.176    work?
[14:51] <kingofswords> im using mobile fone as modem so have a very big ping....dont know how to ping web sites thou
[14:51] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, how do i do that?
[14:52] <dr_willis> open terminal. use ping command
[14:52] <kingofswords> dr_willis, ubuntu forums doesnt load either
[14:52] <kermit> if i'm getting the same kernel panics on different systems, where do i search to see if other people are too?
[14:52] <dr_willis> !bugs
[14:52] <dr_willis> search the bug reports.
[14:52] <glda19> is there a way to share tb 5.0 with ligthning xp /linux
[14:52] <BluesKaj> kingofswords, in a terminal . sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:52] <ijkm> http://nowaygetreal.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/googleplus-vs-facebook-twitter-reddit-gsick/
[14:53] <kermit> i got this kernel directly from kernel.org though
[14:53] <venol> Excusme, How I can accelerate mailgraph to update rrd database without waiting for 5 minutes ? I have change $rrdstep=60 to $rrdste=10 on /usr/sbin/mailgraph, but it is not affect.
[14:53] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, i think i got it but dont know how to chck
[14:53] <BluesKaj> kingofswords, in a terminal . sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:53] <dr_willis> kermit,  then you are basically on your own. there may be a kernel forum/thread that might help.  but i would think the bug report would go to the kernel mailing list then.
[14:53] <kingofswords> dr_willis,  PING www.amazon.com (72.21.194.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[14:53] <kermit> dr_willis: thanks
[14:54] <sebastian> czesc
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !terminal  | kingofswords
[14:54] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  so ping works..   does  the http://72.21.194.1    (or the ip above work?)
[14:54] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  you do get a ping reply from amazon?
[14:55] <sebastian> ????
[14:55] <dr_willis> if they do reply to pings.. heh . checking here
[14:55] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, bet no fava and flash is preventing loading of some sites
[14:55] <BluesKaj> java
[14:55] <kingofswords> dr_willis, all i get in terminal is what i copy/pasted inhere
[14:55] <dr_willis> I use no flash here. and amazon works.. the forums dont use flash eithart i thoight
[14:55] <kingofswords> BluesKaj,  it was already installed thx anyway
[14:56] <dr_willis> kingofswords,    does  the http://72.21.194.1   work?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> the ads use flash  kingofswords , even on the forums
[14:56] <kingofswords> dr_willis, sorry amazon front page and search works but when i click on an item it wont load
[14:57] <dr_willis> now thats.. interesting...
[14:57] <BluesKaj> hmm
[14:57] <genii-around> Sounds like dns
[14:57] <kingofswords> dr_willis, no same as b4
[14:57] <dr_willis> so a url like ------>    http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Bluetooth-Micro-Adapter-GBU421/dp/B0018O9JIG/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_3      works or not?
[14:57] <kingofswords> dr_willis,  that link worked
[14:58] <dr_willis> http://72.21.194.1   does or does not work? or front page works?  but not clicking on any items with that ip# ?
[14:58] <melter> does anyone know when the libreoffice ppa will be updated for 3.4?
[14:58] <szal> sounds more like a general 'net problem if the 'net is so slow it won't even transport pings back in time
[14:58] <kingofswords> hmmmm it works now
[14:58] <Pici> melter: Contact the ppa's maintainers
[14:58] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  its pointing more and more to your isp's dns servers having issues...
[14:58] <kingofswords> oh ok
[14:59] <astraljava> Maybe try opendns?
[14:59] <kingofswords> dr_willis,  maybe because it a mobile network?
[14:59] <dr_willis> you could try changing dns server to 8.8.8.8    (googles dns server) or the opendns servers ones. (i fiorget the ##)
[14:59] <kingofswords> astraljava, yeh i tried b4 when i was having speed issues with ubuntu and didint do much for me
[14:59] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  it may start working here in a short while.
[15:00] <astraljava> 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[15:00] <BluesKaj> opendns works fine for US users , if you havan ISP mail server outside the US  opendns won't work wiith it
[15:00] <kingofswords> astraljava, thx
[15:00] <dr_willis> astraljava,  now did you have those memorised? :)
[15:00] <lucenut> My transmission won't DL any torrents. It shows 12 connected peers but sitting idle. "None of 400.3MB (0.00%) - Remaining time unknown."
[15:00] <lucenut> What casn I do?
[15:00] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, im in uk
[15:00] <astraljava> kingofswords: Oh okay. Well, don't have a clue, then. Except that I'm on a mobile as well, and it just doesn't always work.
[15:01] <dr_willis> ive noticed Mobil ISP's being.. flakey at times also. :)  but mainly when i try to connect to irc with them
[15:01] <astraljava> dr_willis: Not really. :) Just have them on a file for quick access. :)
[15:01] <kingofswords> astraljava, yeh i known as being a bad network
[15:01] <BluesKaj> kingofswords, then use google dns , primary 8.8.8.8 , secondary 8.8.4.4
[15:01] <dr_willis> astraljava,   No bonus nerd points then. :P
[15:02] <kingofswords> my connection doesnt usually work or is really slow during daytimes
[15:02] <nadz> hello !
[15:02] <kingofswords> plus like lucent i have problems with connecting to peers on torrents aswell
[15:03] <dr_willis> torrenting over a mobile network.. thats a little scary.
[15:03] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, isnt it an issue with the mobile network having a firewall their side
[15:03] <venol> Excusme, How I can accelerate mailgraph to update rrd database without waiting for 5 minutes ? I have change $rrdstep=60 to $rrdste=10 on /usr/sbin/mailgraph, but it is not affect.
[15:03] <dr_willis> venol,  you posted that on askubuntu.com yet?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> kingofswords,with what kind of device are you connecting to the internet ?
[15:03] <MrsB> lucenut: make sure the port is open. You can set it to use a static port if you dont use upnp. Look in options/network
[15:03] <kingofswords> dr_ its 2mb connection(been know to get 6mb before) soits not too bad
[15:04] <venol> dr_willis: not yet sir. I just post here..
[15:04] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  ok. when you said mobile - i was thinking mobile-phone...
[15:04] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, its called zte blade...its budget android fone
[15:04] <kingofswords> dr_willis, yeh its my phone
[15:04] <dr_willis> that speed seems high. :)  but im in the middle of the usa/corn field land.
[15:05] <spacebug-> how can I setup seahorse/gpg to not cache my passwords? I want to enter them everytime
[15:05] <kingofswords> dr_willis, im in uk....we are known for our crap interent speeds
[15:06] <_numbers> ever since i upgraded from maverick 10.10 to natty 11.04, both Firefox and Chrome downloads fail to open. it will download them to /tmp, then give me an error about the file no longer being present, but i can open it manually if i navigate to $HOME/Downloads/
[15:06] <BluesKaj> kingofswords, well connecting with a phone isn't excatly fast either , is it ?
[15:07] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, i think 2mb ok
[15:08] <lucenut> Mrs B. I am new to the ubuntu 11. I don't see "Options" anywhere.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> isn't rather expensive to use a mobile phone as a modem , kingofswords ?
[15:08] <glda19> is there a way to share tb 5.0 with ligthning xp /linux
[15:09] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, nah 15 pound uncapped
[15:09] <dr_willis> enjoy that while it lasts. :)
[15:09] <kingofswords> lol
[15:09] <kingofswords> it was 80 gb to start with but they changed it last month
[15:09] <MrsB> lucenut: you said you were using transmission?
[15:11] <dr_willis> I cant even imagine getting that muich data at 2mb speeds...
[15:11] <lucenut> Yeah
[15:11] <lucenut> I see File Edit Torrent View and Help in the top bar.
[15:11] <dr_willis> im barely able to use 500mb a month. but i dont do videos. I just ssh to my linux box and well.. sit here all day :)
[15:11] <MrsB> lucenut: In transmission, click on the edit menu then preferences, select the network tab
[15:11] <lucenut> And a Properties button in Transmission.
[15:12] <lucenut> K
[15:12]  * BluesKaj is in the boonies , so called 5mb is actually 750kbs ...105G b cap for 50$ /mos
[15:12] <MrsB> lucenut: where it says Listening Port, click the Test Port button, see what it tells you
[15:12] <kingofswords> dr_willis,  to be honest i been dling movies games alot(havent has own connection for yrs so playing catch up) and was only touching the 80gb at end of month anyway
[15:12] <cyto> does pptpd server support multicast forwarding?
[15:13] <dr_willis> I just got 1.07 mbs here from speedtest.net  $25 mo. 2GB.
[15:13] <lucenut> Says port 51413 is closed.
[15:13] <dr_willis> ive had issues with gettting  teathering working btween my phone and  linux laptops ive had. Havent tried it in 11.04 yet.
[15:13] <MrsB> lucenut: Is the Use UPnP box ticked?
[15:14] <lucenut> Yes
[15:14] <kingofswords> dr_willis, were you using android phones?
[15:14] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  yes. Galaxy S.
[15:14] <MrsB> lucenut: UPnP is probably disabled at your router, the easiest way to fix the problem is to enable it there
[15:14] <kingofswords> dr_willis, and it didnt tether? was android rooted?
[15:15] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  the issue was with the laptop and connecting to the tether..  otehr devices did work. (at&t wants another $10 a mo to enable the feature... but tjheres ways around that. :P  )
[15:15] <kingofswords> dr_willis, im on 10.04lts has real problem with previous ver as ivps6 or kernal slowed down my connection speed
[15:16] <lucenut> In the router it says Upnp is enabled.
[15:16] <dr_willis> I think theres some wireless network card drivers taht cant do 'adhoc' type networks..   but ive never really seen that  in print :) just from forums posts/rumors
[15:16] <martian> I have set up password-less ssh login to my server on which I have a screen session running. On my client, I am attempting to do "ssh my.server.address screen -r screenname" but it tells me I "must be connected to a terminal". What can I do to make this work?
[15:17] <kingofswords> dr_willis, im on 3 network...they known for their mobile bb but also for being a useless phone provider
[15:17] <myk_robinson> I have an Atheros AR928X in my laptop, running Natty, using the atk9k driver. Any idea why I cannot see wireless N networks?
[15:17] <MrsB> lucenut: You are probably firewalled then. Im not on ubuntu at the moment to be able to talk you through it step by step but Im sure somebody else can help you with that.
[15:18] <MrsB> lucenut: what port did it say it was trying to use?
[15:18] <dr_willis> bbl
[15:18] <lucenut> 51413
[15:19] <lucenut> I went in my port forwarding and opened 51413 to that machine and now the test works.
[15:19] <lucenut> But still not downloading.
[15:19] <_numbers> "Could not display /home/.../Downloads/... The location is not a folder." anyone else getting this after upgrading to natty? none of my downloads will open unless i do it manually anymore
[15:19] <MrsB> lucenut: Ok cool :) You'll find your bittorrent downloads work better now
[15:20] <MalMen> hello ,i am with problems with network manager, is not saving the vpn password, so i cant connect to vpn :S using ubunut 11.04
[15:20] <a1cd> Hey guys, Just wondering if there is a large difference between 10.4.1 vs 10.4.2? If so is the upgrade procedure the same as moving up from 9.x?
[15:20] <myk_robinson> does wireless N even work in Linux? or is there possibly something wrong with my card? I don't have dual boot to test it in Windows
[15:20] <ikonia> a1cd: no
[15:20] <lucenut> MrsB not working any better.
[15:20] <ikonia> a1cd: you just need to update the packages via update-manager
[15:20] <MrsB> lucenut: if you have manually forwarded a single port then make sure transmission always uses that port and doesnt pick a random one each time it starts
[15:20] <ikonia> a1cd: it's not a "release" it's just updates, if you keep up to date with the package manager, you're already running 10.4.2
[15:21] <lucenut> Yes, the pick a different port checkbox is not checked.
[15:21] <a1cd> alright. thanks!
[15:21] <ChogyDan> myk_robinson: googlin, it looks like many are having issues, even on windows.  Do you know what frequency the N network is?
[15:22] <MrsB> lucenut: If the port is showing as being open then there is some other reason your bt download is not working. It could be that your ISP throttles it
[15:22] <lucenut> I can torrent all day from windows.
[15:23] <Ginsu> ok, I need to modify my startup daemons, and in Arch, that would mean simply modifying the rc.conf.....how do I do it in Ubuntu? rc.conf isn't in /etc.....
[15:23] <BrianOfTacoma> What is the command to delete every folder within a particular folder that contains a "_" character at a particular dir I have cd'd to?
[15:23] <MrsB> lucenut: Then you need to check your firewall settings. transmission needs an incoming port is all.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> BBl...lawn cutting awaits
[15:24] <Ginsu> BrianOfTacoma: rm -r *_* ?
[15:24] <lucenut> Well, the incoming port test fine in Transmission.
[15:24] <ChogyDan> Ginsu: that will delete files also  :p
[15:24] <h1gh> find . -type d -name "*_*" -exec rm -rf "{}" \;
[15:25] <Ginsu> ChogyDan: he said he wanted the folders gone....which can't be done if there are files in them....so how else should he do it?
[15:25] <myk_robinson> ChogyDan: I can find out quickly, but if people are having problems with N even in windows, i wont worry about it
[15:25] <BrianOfTacoma> ...kinda a scary move.  =)  Will that put things in trash so I can grab them again if needed?
[15:25] <kusznir__> Hi all: I've got two big problems on natty that I was wondering if anyone had insights to help with.  The first is that "Document Viewer" will not open.  I've tried uninstalling evince and reinstalling it, both regular and -gtk versions, and neither version improved anything.  Second is that whenever one selects the "always on top" option in gnome, the window area is "scrambled" and unreadable.
[15:25] <myk_robinson> just making sure my hardware wasnt buggy or something. Thought it was odd that I dont even see the wireless n network
[15:25] <glda19> is there a way to share tb 5.0 with ligthning xp /linuxµ
[15:25] <kusznir__> (btw: we are NOT using Unity in this install, just "classic mode".  This is due to lack of hardware support for Unity)
[15:25] <ChogyDan> Ginsu: not sure exactly.  I find bash tricky
[15:26] <ikonia> glda19: lightning XP ?
[15:26] <MrsB> lucenut: You might find you need to enable the encryption settings to prevent your ISP throttling bittorrent transfers.
[15:26] <BrianOfTacoma> If I type: find . -type d -name "*_*" -exec rm -rf "{}" \;    ... will I be able to grab the folders from Trash if I make a mistake?
[15:26] <ikonia> glda19: do you mean the thunderbird plugin lighning that you've been asked to stop asking about because "we don't support it"  ?
[15:26] <Ginsu> ChogyDan: It's not that hard, he just wouldn't be able to rm the folders without rm'ing the files....but in what OS would that NOT be true?
[15:27] <XOXO1> has anyone made his/her own custom icon pack?
[15:27] <Pici> BrianOfTacoma: no, they'll be gone.
[15:27] <h1gh> BrianOfTacoma: no
[15:27] <BrianOfTacoma> is there a CLI command that can do this a bit more "safely"?
[15:27] <BrianOfTacoma> tons of stuff in there that I might lose by mistake ...
[15:27] <h1gh> BrianOfTacoma: you will have to write one.  Or ask on ##bash
[15:27] <BrianOfTacoma> kk ty
[15:28] <Ginsu> ok, I'm stuck at "*Starting AppArmor profiles".....how do I remove this from the startup?
[15:28] <Ginsu> in Arch, it would be a simple removal of the relevant daemon or module in rc.conf, but that's not the case here....
[15:28] <n7m_xs> htop
[15:29] <Ginsu> ?
[15:29] <Pici> n7m_xs: Was that in response to something?
[15:31] <Ginsu> does anyone know how to edit startup daemons and modules?
[15:31] <Ginsu> anyone?
[15:31] <teco> senthilraj
[15:32] <tony_> Hello!
[15:32] <tony_> I have a problem with nautilus
[15:32] <Pici> Ginsu: For apparmor, I see /etc/init.d/apparmor and /etc/rcS.d/S37apparmor
[15:33] <compdoc> Ginsu, I install and use boot-up manager
[15:33] <ChogyDan> Ginsu: I'm not sure removing AppArmor is the way to fix a failed boot
[15:33] <Ginsu> it's the one that's hanging the boot, though....
[15:33] <tony_> And all the windows overall
[15:33] <Python> hi how to check how much memory does my card have ?
[15:33] <BrianOfTacoma> Is there a CLI command that I can use to delete ever folder below a certain point that contains no files (even within sub-folders)?
[15:33] <koppe> Is it possible to download and install Firefox-extensions centrally so that the can be used by all users?
[15:33] <Pici> Ginsu: Its still managed by the old init system, but most things are being turned into upstart jobs nowadays, and those would be found in /etc/init/
[15:34] <goltoof> can has hotkey to cascade windows?
[15:34] <xangua> koppe: you can isntall some fx addons from software centre
[15:34] <Ginsu> Pici: ugh.....I miss Arch's rc.conf.....
[15:35] <goltoof> like take two open windows and maximize them side by side?
[15:35] <tony_> Ey, problem with Nautilus, anyone? >_>
[15:35] <tony_> <_<
[15:35] <Pici> BrianOfTacoma: This command will recursively search through /path/ for directories and attempt to delete them.  If they aren't empty, it won't do anything. find /path/ -type d -exec rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty {} \;
[15:35] <Ginsu> Pici: what config file makes it load? I see nothing about AppArmor in /etc/init
[15:36] <koppe> xangua: I know, but I need extensions that are not packed.  How have they made packages with extensions?
[15:36] <goltoof> 08:32 < tony_> I have a problem with nautilus
[15:36] <Ginsu> Pici: Oh, just caught your earlier comment....checking that now
[15:36] <Pici> Ginsu: The /etc/init/rc* jobs
[15:36] <swansaap> does anyone know a channel to discuss JSP? (java)
[15:36] <tony_> Hey goltoof.
[15:36] <Pici> swansaap: Start with ##java
[15:36] <goltoof> ok then, is there no way to do a recursive mogrify?
[15:37] <Python> hi how to check how much memory does my card have ?
[15:37] <tony_> goltoof, nautilus won't open
[15:37] <goltoof> hey tony_
[15:37] <goltoof> goltoof_ pkill nautilus first, then open it
[15:37] <tony_> And the buttons to close, maximize and minimize are gone too
[15:37] <goltoof> tony_:  if not that then apt-get removie it
[15:38] <ChogyDan> goltoof http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042042
[15:38] <tony_> It happened after a system update
[15:38] <goltoof> tony_:  and reinstall... that's how i roll
[15:38] <Ginsu> ChogyDan: what's that for?
[15:38] <goltoof> tony_:  most screw ups do
[15:38] <tony_> XD
[15:38] <koppe> Quick question... why does some channels have double hash-marks (##), while most have just one (#).
[15:38] <tony_> Ok goltoof. So: sudo apt-get remove ???
[15:39] <goltoof> ChogyDan:  yeah, the multiple desktops makes it somewhat tricky
[15:39] <appu> hi
[15:39] <Pici> koppe: freenode naming conventions, see http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming and #freenode for more IRC questions
[15:39] <ikonia> koppe: ask in #freenode, best explained there
[15:39] <koppe> ok
[15:39] <appu> how to upgrade ubuntu?
[15:39] <ikonia> !upgrade > appu
[15:40] <ChogyDan> Ginsu: it was just a loose answer to his question
[15:40] <goltoof> tony_:  sudo apt-get remove --purge nautilus
[15:40] <goltoof> tony_:  did you try pkill first?
[15:40] <Pici> tony_: I highly reccomend that you do not do that.
[15:40] <appu> thanks
[15:40] <tony_> NOpe, I'm a newbie at ubuntu :$
[15:40] <appu> my upgrade is not working
[15:40] <goltoof> Pici:  did i mess up?  it can be reinstalled yes?
[15:41] <Pici> goltoof: removing nautilus will force the removal of a number of core gnome packages that depend on it.
[15:41] <appu> it tells "check your internet connection"
[15:41] <tony_> I didn't do anything yet.
[15:41] <goltoof> Pici:  I've done it before with no problems
[15:41] <appu> my internet connection is ok
[15:41] <appu> but cannot upgrade
[15:41] <tony_> goltoof, Pici, can't I just reinstall it?
[15:41] <appu> can anyone help pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:42] <Pici> appu: Patience...
[15:42] <tony_> Without remove it first?
[15:42] <Pici> appu: What release of Ubuntu are you running right now.
[15:42] <Pici> tony_: You can, but thats not likely to fix anything.
[15:42] <appu> 9.10
[15:43] <Pici> appu: 9.10 is no longer supported, so you'll need to use these steps to upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[15:43] <goltoof> is there no way to do a recursive mogrify?
[15:43] <appu> i tried to upgrade but not working
[15:43] <Python> hi how to check how much memory does my card have ?
[15:43] <goltoof> to convert all images in all subdirs to jpg
[15:44] <goltoof> for example
[15:44] <goltoof> Python:  free
[15:44] <Pici> Python: system memory or video memory?
[15:44] <Python> video
[15:45] <pr0ton> what would be the best way to creating visiting cards in Ubuntu?
[15:45] <tony_> Checking the box?
[15:45] <Pici> Python: just a moment.
[15:45] <arooni-mobile> hi folks.  running 11.04 on my lenovo t420.  it seems once a day ubuntu freezes up and i have to restart it.  it just happened 10 minutes ago.  how can i figure out why this is happening?
[15:45] <RevSpecies116> Visiting Cards, pr0ton?
[15:45] <appu> check my logwww.sag-3.blogspot.com
[15:46] <pr0ton> RevSpecies116, like business cards
[15:46] <tdtusb> can anyone recommend me some TDT  USB adapters, that is usb adpaters that will enable me to watch DIGITAL TV  on my netbook? I am in Spain and the only TV you can watch is digital. I am looking for USB adapters that do NOT require non free firmware and are approved by the FSF
[15:46] <appu> check my blog www.sag-3.blogspot.com
[15:46] <goltoof> 08:45 < arooni-mobile> hi folks.  running 11.04 on my lenovo t420.  it seems once a day ubuntu freezes up and i have to restart it.  it just happened 10 minutes ago.  how can i figure out why this is  happening?
[15:46] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, pr0ton - LibreOffice Draw?
[15:46] <pr0ton> i'm on 10.04
[15:46] <Pici> appu: Don't advertise here.
[15:46] <arooni-mobile> goltoof, sorry?
[15:47] <appu> ok
[15:47] <appu> tell me how do i upgrade
[15:47] <appu> ?
[15:47] <RevSpecies116> http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Business_cards <- pr0ton
[15:47] <appu> my 9.10
[15:47] <RevSpecies116> PS: I'm on 10.04LTS, too
[15:47] <tony_> Hey Python: Try doing: sudo vmstat
[15:47] <goltoof> arooni-mobile:  sorry, mistake
[15:47] <tony_> In a terminal.
[15:47] <Pici> Python: sudo lshw -c display   might show it
[15:47] <Pici> appu: did you read the URL that I gave you?
[15:47] <pr0ton> thanks :)
[15:47] <goltoof> appu:  !upgrade
[15:48] <goltoof> !upgrade | appu
[15:48] <appu> yes
[15:48] <appu> that what i did
[15:48] <appu> but didn't work
[15:48] <Pici> appu: What part of it didn't work?
[15:49] <Python> Pici: resources: irq:42 memory:f0000000-f03fffff memory:e0000000-efffffff ioport:e080(size=8)
[15:49] <appu> i opened update manager and selected upgrade
[15:49] <Pici> appu: Thats not what the instructions that I gave you said to do.
[15:49] <appu> but it says that to check your internet connection
[15:49] <appu> oh
[15:49] <Pici> appu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[15:50] <mangomake> hi, im running ubuntu on joggler - it is a low powered embedded platform - i've installed xfce and trying to get rid of gnome - its too heavy  - but for some reason whenever i try to remove aload of the gnome stuff synaptic insist on installing KDE !!! why? how do i stop it??
[15:51] <pr0ton> RevSpecies116, i can't find LibreOffice in The Ubuntu Software Center
[15:51] <pr0ton> is there a seperate .deb download?
[15:51] <ChogyDan> mangomake: how did you install xfce?
[15:51] <c933103> Try xubuntu?
[15:51] <mangomake> ChogyDan, apt-get install xfce4
[15:51] <RevSpecies116> OpenOffice should do the same thing, pr0ton - I added LibreOffice through a Repo
[15:51] <extraclassic> pr0ton: you need a ppa
[15:51] <pr0ton> extraclassic, ok.
[15:51] <goltoof> how do I go about converting all files in subdirs from tif to jpg?
[15:52] <goltoof> recursively
[15:52] <pr0ton> RevSpecies116, OpenOffice doesn't have Draw
[15:52] <pr0ton> i just saw
[15:52] <pr0ton> oh it's called Open Office Drawing :)
[15:52] <pr0ton> thanks guys
[15:52] <mosx1> hi all, I am having some installation problems with 11.04 32bit downloaded ISO
[15:52] <extraclassic> goltoof: writing a perl script would do it
[15:52] <xangua> mangomake: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , you should have
[15:52] <TehAndrewRyan> okay i wrote dmesg | tail when the internet disconnected
[15:53] <TehAndrewRyan> now what?
[15:53] <mosx1> I have burnt to CD-R but when I try to boot from CD I get a message up on screen
[15:53] <RevSpecies116> :) pr0ton :) No worries :)
[15:53] <ChogyDan> mangomake: it is probably doing dependency resolution, you are probably still using gnome packages and it is trying to replace needed depends with kde stuff.  I think it would be better to install all the xfce stuff by installing either xubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop^
[15:53] <martian> mosx1: What does the message say?
[15:53] <xangua> !purekde | to remove gnome mangomake
[15:53] <ChogyDan> xangua: he wants xfce
[15:54] <xangua> ......
[15:54] <mosx1> cannot mount /dev/loop0
[15:54] <mosx1> sorry was attempting to copy paste...
[15:54] <mosx1> cannot mount /dev/loop0
[15:54] <mosx1> (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error.
[15:55] <Pici> !paste | mosx1
[15:55] <mosx1> Can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casperfilesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[15:55] <TehAndrewRyan> heello?
[15:55] <tony_> mosx1, did you checked the md5 of the iso file before burning it?
[15:55] <jLoth> mosx1: do you have a dvd you can burn to instead?
[15:55] <Pici> TehAndrewRyan: pasting the text from dmesg to a pastebin would be helpful to troubleshoot with.
[15:55] <mosx1> nope...I never do
[15:55] <goltoof> extraclassic:  writing a perl script would do anything :P
[15:55] <martian> mosx1: based on this thread, I'm wondering if your iso download failed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1556602
[15:55] <mangomake> hm.. xubuntu-desktop is trying to install a hole load of stuff i dont want also
[15:55] <mosx1> but I sure checked it afterwards and it was ok
[15:56] <TehAndrewRyan> uhh how do i paste it to a pastebin then?
[15:56] <ChogyDan> !purexfce | mangomake fwiw
[15:56] <goltoof> !pastebin | TehAndrewRyan
[15:56] <extraclassic> goltoof: yeah....imagemagick would convert the files but you'd need a script of you had hundreds to convert
[15:56] <pRoV7x>  hello, which's better, upgrading 10.10 to 11.04, or installing 11.04 on a formated hard drive?
[15:57] <mosx1> martian: so I've checked the ISOs md5 and it was good
[15:57] <mosx1> I used ImgBurn latest version to burn the ISO
[15:57] <tony_> mosx1, what was the file size of the .iso you downloaded?
[15:57] <martian> mosx1: well, regardless of the cause, it seems that many install problems like this are fixed by using the alternate install cd
[15:57] <TehAndrewRyan> since it's on another computer i gotta type it all down
[15:57] <goltoof> extraclassic:  i'm just suprised there no option like mogrify -r -format jpg *.tif
[15:58] <mosx1> 718,583,808 bytes
[15:58] <piotr_> hallo
[15:58] <djskidd> derp
[15:59] <piotr_> siemanko
[15:59] <pRoV7x>  hello, which's better, upgrading 10.10 to 11.04, or installing 11.04 on a formated hard drive?
[15:59] <mosx1> I have something else going on that I thought was a bit odd though...
[15:59] <piotr_> dzien dobry
[15:59] <Pici> !pl | piotr_
[15:59] <mosx1> when I boot from the cd I get the Ubuntu logo up for a while before the message...
[16:00] <jLoth> mosx1:  did you burn to a dvd or cd?
[16:00] <piotr_> hi howare you
[16:00] <mosx1> when I tried it on another machine I got a diff logo...in fact it said Ubuntu 11.04
[16:00] <mosx1> I burnt a CD have no DVD media
[16:00] <jLoth> ahh i see
[16:00] <blargg> pRoV7x, I think each has benefits. Updating a system keeps most settings intact, and the packages you've installed. A fresh install is sure to not carry any problems from the previous one.
[16:00] <martian> mosx1: You should try the alternate install iso
[16:00] <mosx1> the machine I am trying to install on had 9.04 but it failed to reboot
[16:00] <jLoth> i got this error alot with some of the laptops
[16:00] <jLoth> burning to dvd always fixes
[16:01] <mosx1> yeah i read a few threads that suggested that
[16:01] <mosx1> didn't make much sense to me why that could be the case - any suggestions ?
[16:01] <tony_> USB boot?
[16:01] <martian> mosx1: yes, use the alternate install cd
[16:02] <sarkis> hey guys, what package do i need for flashplugin on firefox?
[16:02] <TehAndrewRyan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/639566/
[16:02] <pRoV7x>  blargg: thank you
[16:02] <sarkis> is that installed with the restricted-extras?
[16:02] <appu> is there a software for facebook and google talk chat
[16:03] <TL1> the empathy client covers these i think
[16:03] <mosx1> is the alternate install using diff install scripts etc ?
[16:03] <TL1> or you can download pidgin
[16:03] <xangua>  /gogle facebook chat
[16:03] <jLoth> mosx1: i dont know why it happens seems to be an issue with certain cd drives, bt the alternate install will work
[16:03] <xangua> appu any jabber cliente
[16:03] <opello> Hi, I filed a bug on launchpad (#173082) but then found out about "SRU" vs. backports, and was wondering if it was ultimately in the right place.
[16:03] <xangua> http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php
[16:03] <appu> no
[16:03] <appu> empathy don't
[16:03] <xangua> appu: it does
[16:03] <sarkis> also, do you guys recommend chromium from the repos or download the .deb from chrome?
[16:04] <appu> yes empathy xangua
[16:04] <sarkis> google**
[16:04] <TL1> then try downloading pidgin from software channel
[16:04] <BajK> any idea to make Libre Office Impress actually USABLE? it is so slow
[16:04] <appu> my desn't
[16:04] <mosx1> I also ripped an iso off the cd I just burned and then MD5 checked the resulting ISO and it didn't match
[16:04] <xangua> sarkis: chromium is open source, google chrome is not
[16:04] <mosx1> the one from the download
[16:04] <koppe> Are there any good programs for downloading streamed videos -- usually displayed in flash-video player (something along the lines of Replay Media Catcher)?
[16:05] <sarkis> xangua: i see..
[16:05] <bastidrazor> mosx1: when burning OS to CD's you should burn at the slowest speed.
[16:05] <cassio> Hi. I have an hp p1005 printer. every time i try to print a file it fails, so i have to run hp-plugin and install it again, then it works. any idea why this happens? i can get it to work, but it's annoying to reinstall this every time
[16:05] <TL1> not really that important
[16:05] <TL1> it is about your drive
[16:05] <mosx1> I did have verify checked and it said it was cool
[16:05] <appu> no idea
[16:05] <extraclassic> koppe: I use video download helper in firefox and it works pretty well
[16:06] <mosx1> TL1: about my burning drive or about the CD drive in the machine I'm trying to install onto?
[16:06] <appu> yeah?
[16:06] <TehAndrewRyan> [18:02] <TehAndrewRyan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/639566/
[16:06] <appu> onto?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> cassio: do you have the latest HPLIP from the HPLP site?
[16:06] <TL1> both if the empty disc is covered with dust
[16:06] <TL1> chances there will be mistakes
[16:06] <opello> Oops, I mentioned the wrong number, *my* bug was: #806728
[16:06] <TL1> or if you have low end drive
[16:07] <sarkis> what do i need to download for google chrome and firefox flash plugins?
[16:07] <koppe> extraclassic: Will try, but would prefer a stand-alone program...
[16:07] <sarkis> flashplugin-installer from the repo?
[16:07] <mosx1> I'm presuming I should in theory be able to use ImgBurn to rip the ISO off the burnt CD and confirm the MD5 still matches the Downloaded ISO's MD5 ????
[16:07] <xangua> sarkis: yes
[16:07] <TL1> you've got it
[16:08] <extraclassic> koppe: there are command line ones but I couldn't get them to download anything but youtube
[16:08] <mosx1> k, thx
[16:08] <mosx1> I'll try burning it again at x1
[16:08] <TL1> youre welcomee
[16:08] <mosx1> what about this alternate install cd suggestion ?
[16:08] <mosx1> should I try that first ?
[16:08] <TehAndrewRyan> did anyone even read my pastebin?
[16:09] <bastidrazor> mosx1: no, check the ISO before burning.
[16:09] <xangua> !alternate | mosx1
[16:09] <TL1> not if you're a noob lol, we all  were once
[16:09] <mosx1> thx ubottu
[16:09] <appu> bye
[16:09] <TL1> bye
[16:10] <mosx1> bastidrazor: sorry if it sounded like I didn't know what I was on about - I have already explained that the downloaded ISO is good (i.e. MD5 matches)
[16:11] <mosx1> I think my issue is with the burning to crappy discs
[16:11] <tony_> Pici, do you know why if I try to close nautilus with "nautilus -q" I get this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/639577/
[16:11] <TL1> good luck mosx1
[16:12] <mosx1> thx
[16:12] <mangomake> k, well that removed a load of stuff - now to see if this thing still boots ;)
[16:12] <Roneet> kernel panic help? Please?
[16:12] <Roneet> kernel panic help? Please?
[16:12] <Roneet> kernel panic help? Please?
[16:12] <FloodBot1> Roneet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <ikonia> Roneet: you'll get a lot further if you just ask a question rather than blindly spamming the channel with pointless words
[16:13] <engammalsko> My screen is showing a black frame around the screen. Can I make Ubuntu fullscreen somehow? I have a 1920*1080 screen.
[16:14] <dr_willis> not like thats a magicaal  'set kernel-panic=dontdoit' setting :)
[16:14] <Roneet> Sorry. While trying to boot with an ubuntu disk, i get a kernel panic error:
[16:14] <TL1> you should ensure that the resolution is set to max
[16:14] <ikonia> Roneet: as in a CD ?
[16:14] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  sounds like your X display is not set to that res. and the monitor is set to not 'scale'
[16:14] <Roneet> Yes
[16:14] <Polah> Roneet: Possibly corrupt iso, burn or the disk could be damaged
[16:15] <ikonia> Roneet: what is the exact error ?
[16:15] <TL1> then i assume its a new lcd then press the auto button on your screen
[16:15] <engammalsko> dr_willis: in settings > screen I have 1920 * 1080. But maybe that isn't enough. How do I set the X res etc?
[16:15] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  whats your video chipset?
[16:16] <Roneet> Kernel panic - not syncing : attempted to kill init!
[16:16] <bob_> I have 11.04 (sda1) and 10.04 (sda6)on the same disc - can I uninstall 10.04 and have 11.04 use the whole drive?
[16:16] <TehAndrewRyan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/639566/ .
[16:16] <engammalsko> dr_willis: hd 6900 series. Or 6970 to be more exact.
[16:16] <dr_willis> bob_,  you can boot to 11.04 and use gparted to deleta the 10.04 install. and resize the partitions.. yes
[16:16] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  thats an ATI card?
[16:17] <engammalsko> dr_willis: no amd.
[16:17] <dr_willis> amd bought ati. :)
[16:17] <youngblood> My release is 10.10 and Im trying to update OpenOffice to LibreOffice. Everything was going find, but now the instruction what me insert the cd jauty jackalope, which I don't have anymore. Is ther a work-a-around?
[16:17] <jvgeli> bob_ : yes you can. Use gparted to increase the size of 11.04 and update grub after
[16:17] <engammalsko> dr_willis: aha. Okay. I have a catalyst controll center
[16:17] <bob_> thanks, dr Willis, I'll try it
[16:17] <engammalsko> dr_willis: for the gpu
[16:17] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  check the 'addational-drivers' tool (or run gksudo jockey-gtk) to see if any extra drivers are installable... use that controll center to set the res. if  the drivers are allready installed.
[16:18] <dr_willis> or use the Monitors setting tool to set a proper res.
[16:18] <thewanderer1> youngblood: remove the cdrom lines from /etc/apt/sources.list or all other files in sources.list.d and try again
[16:18] <TehAndrewRyan> are you gonna read my pastepin this year or not? i'm losing my patience
[16:18] <spacebug-> lol, engammalsko 'en gammal sko' = 'an old shoe' in swedish
[16:18] <spacebug-> ah swedish man/woman
[16:19] <engammalsko> spacebug-: It's a beautiful nickname.
[16:19] <spacebug-> hehe
[16:19] <awkisopen> I have Ubuntu Server 10.04.2 installed on a laptop and would like to install the Broadcom wireless drivers so I don't need to keep the laptop connected via ethernet cable. In Ubuntu Desktop all that meant was using the "Additional Drivers" utility; how do I do that from command line?
[16:19] <dr_willis> TehAndrewRyan,  i normally dont read a pastebin unless thers at least a summary of the problem alongside it.
[16:19] <seto9> hai
[16:19] <TehAndrewRyan> well i wrote it before? then one of you asked me for a pastebin?
[16:19] <youngblood> thewanderer1, thanks
[16:19] <Roneet> Sorry. While trying to boot with an ubuntu disk, i get a kernel panic error:
[16:19] <dr_willis> TehAndrewRyan,  i dident see it..  i imagine a lot of us havent.
[16:20] <engammalsko> dr_willis: Well I have the ati/amd driver that I installed on my first run, nothing more. When I installed it I got the amd control center + I was able to run unit.
[16:20] <engammalsko> unity*
[16:20] <jvgeli> Roneet : are you able to specify further please. Are you installing from a CD?
[16:20] <dr_willis> assume people on irc have the attention span of a goldfish.
[16:20] <pRoV7x>  Any one knows, which relese could work on AMD Athlon?
[16:20] <TehAndrewRyan> well my wireless on 10.04 randomly disconnects and won't reconnect until i restart it
[16:20] <Roneet> yes
[16:20] <TehAndrewRyan> until i restart my comp*
[16:20] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  so you ran the ciontrol center a 2nd time tio see if you can set the res?
[16:20] <TL1> all releases should
[16:21] <jvgeli> Roneet :  could be a bad burn. Try using a flash disk install or re-burn the image
[16:21] <engammalsko> dr_no just jockey-gtk. What was the other thing I should have run?
[16:21] <opello> I filed a bug on launchpad (#806728) but then found out about "SRU" vs. backports, and was wondering if it was ultimately in the right place?
[16:21] <Roneet> i got the cd from ubuntu. Didnt burn it.
[16:21] <Cyanure> Hi, can someone tell me how to set a default ssh login (different from the local one) for a specific remote host
[16:21] <pRoV7x>  TL1: it's a little bit old AMD Athlon.
[16:21] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  the ati control center you said was installed....
[16:22] <TL1> well try xubuntu
[16:22] <TL1> it runs well on old devices
[16:22] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  i dont use ati.. so no idea what tools it uses.. you could try the 'gnome-control-center' and the monitors  tool icon in there.
[16:22] <jvgeli> Ronnet :  what are the specs of the machine you are installing into?
[16:22] <opello> Cyanure: you'll need to create a .ssh/config and have something like: "Host *\n User otherusername"
[16:22] <KM0201> TL1: not so much anymore.. but.. thats another issue
[16:23] <TL1> sorry to hear that
[16:23] <Cyanure> opello, do you have a link to a tuto ?
[16:23] <awkisopen> Is the bcmwl-kernel-source package the equivalent of selecting Broadcom drivers under "Additional Drivers"?
[16:23] <TL1> if you want a light linux try siltaz
[16:23] <dr_willis> !info Lubuntu
[16:23] <dr_willis> ! Lubuntu
[16:23] <TL1> it's only 52 mb if i remember well
[16:23] <jvgeli> Roneet : I am assuming you have access to a computer now. Pop in the CD and make a Flash Installer with a 1GB flash disk. Use Unetbootin if you are on windows.
[16:24] <opello> Cyanure: not off hand, man ssh_config should have all the options you can put in there though
[16:24] <dr_willis> Lubuntu is  the lightest 'ubuntu' :) thats officially (well almost) supported.
[16:24]  * KM0201 agrees w/ the Dr.
[16:24] <engammalsko> dr_willis: There is no res setting...
[16:24] <pRoV7x>  TL!: thank you
[16:24] <Cyanure> opello, ok thanks a lot. I'll rtfm now
[16:24] <Roneet> it's an old machine with no os installed. I am trying to bring it back to life.
[16:24] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  check the monitors tool in gnome-control-center
[16:24] <engammalsko> dr_willis: Just colors and 3D etc
[16:24] <TL1> welcome pRoV7x
[16:24] <KM0201> pRoV7x: what are the specs on that athlon?
[16:25] <bampersand> hey guys, i have this usb camera, is there a way i can detect when a button is pressed on the camera? (it does nothing without windows software, and i'm wanting to assign it to something else any way)
[16:25] <jvgeli> Roneet : CD tray speed could too low. Use a flash install instead.
[16:25] <mosx1> me again...not really on topic but a quick Q about ImgBurn - if I checked Verify and it verified ok when I burnt my CD does that mean I can assume it did indeed make a perfect copy? If not how come ?
[16:25] <engammalsko> dr_willis: I already told that it was set to 1920*1080 ?
[16:25] <jvgeli> *could be too low
[16:26] <Roneet> 1.2 ghz, 512 mb ram.
[16:26] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  then either your monitor can do higher.. or theres some quiky monitor setting thats  not scaleing.. (or both)  or its not really set to 1920x1080
[16:26] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  see what the xrandr tools say about the res.
[16:26] <Roneet> enough for 8.04, hmm?
[16:26] <pRoV7x>  KM0201: it's really old, it had xp on it, i couldn't setup win7 or 10.10 on t, it says not enough hardware
[16:26] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  run 'xrandr' and check its output
[16:26] <engammalsko> dr_willis: lol 1680*1050 looks perfect xD
[16:26] <jvgeli> Roneet : Yes, should be enough
[16:26] <engammalsko> dr_willis: but it is 1920*1080 ...
[16:27] <KM0201> pRoV7x: well, "really old" could mean a lot of things.. how old.
[16:27] <dr_willis> example  for mine -->   Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 1440 x 900, maximum 1440 x 900
[16:27] <KM0201> pRoV7x: in other words, really old.. tells me nothing
[16:27] <dr_willis> current and max are the same.
[16:28] <phper_> Hello. I run ubuntu 11.04 at virtuabox, now I have a php script that at our server works normally, but at virtuabox it seems it can't connect to the dns for the database connection
[16:28] <phper_> how can I make ubuntu at virtuabox to see the dns?
[16:29] <pRoV7x>  KM0201: i'll find out and get back to you guys
[16:29] <dr_willis> phper_,  vbox has network settings where the vbox machine can appear on the lan as if it was a 'real' physical machine. gettting the dns and ip info from the lans dhcp server.
[16:29] <Roneet> so what do i do?
[16:29] <dr_willis> phper_,  you may want to try that. or set its dns and ip statically
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> phper_: do you have bridged networking in the virtualbox?
[16:30] <phper_> dr_willis: I am not sure what to do
[16:30] <pRoV7x>  just wonder, do Ubuntu CDs are for both Intel and AMD, or there are releses for AMD PCs?
[16:30] <awkisopen> Well, I tried to use bmcwl-kernel-source but iwconfig still isn't showing any wireless devices
[16:30] <dr_willis> i can never rember the vbox network settings..
[16:30] <engammalsko> dr_willis: Okay. Btw, you haven't taken your nick from dr wily in megaman? haha
[16:30] <dr_willis> phper_,  try the other network settings in vbox.. shut it down.. try differnt setting.. start it.. check its ip/if it works..
[16:30] <jvgeli> Roneet : you a computer now. Download and install Unetbootin. Grab a USB Flash disk (1GB will do) and pop in the CD . Create a flash disk installer.
[16:30] <phper_> ActionParsnip: bridged networking? I don't remember setting that
[16:30] <awkisopen> Man, on Desktop this was one simple step... I just want to know what the command line equivalent is
[16:31] <Milan1992> Hi
[16:31] <phper_> dr_willis: if I access a website from the network, e.g. http://10.10.10.9/site the browser loads it normally at virtuabox ubuntu
[16:32] <Milan1992> anybody use PMS (PS3 Media Server)?
[16:32] <TehAndrewRyan> how about helping me?
[16:32] <phper_> dr_willis: maybe if I try wubi? Does it see the DNS?
[16:32] <dr_willis> phper_,  i sugested trying the other network settings/modes in vbox first...
[16:33] <Roneet> jvgeli: i am trying to fix a friend's machine. only recources I have is an Ubuntu cd and my phone for irc
[16:33] <phper_> dr_willis: thanks, I will try that tomorrow at work
[16:33] <dr_willis> phper_,  vbox can set up a private lan, (by default) that may be causing the issue. check the dns server setting the box;s are using and what vbox is using.
[16:33] <Roneet> The cd works fine on my machine.
[16:33] <dr_willis> phper_,  you may want to check out the network settings section in the vbox manual.
[16:33] <bampersand> any ideas? i'm wanting to detect if a button is pressed on my usb camera
[16:33] <dr_willis> Roneet,  ive seen some optcial drives have issues reading some disks..
[16:34] <dr_willis> bampersand,  press it.. see if dmesg output mentions the press..  perhaps.
[16:34] <engammalsko> Should I install a linux server os to run a lamp server or just install it on this desktop os? I'm not gonna use it as a host in the future. I just find it easier to work with my own server then a web host.
[16:34] <bampersand> okay thanks dr_willis
[16:34] <Milan1992> it wil work on desktop too
[16:34] <bampersand> i'll try that now.
[16:34] <dr_willis> engammalsko,   desktop can run it most likely fine.
[16:35] <awkisopen> Anyone know how to install the broadcom drivers via command line? The same ones under "Additional Drivers" in Desktop, that is
[16:35] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[16:35] <thewanderer1> engammalsko: use a virtual machine or a container to run the server - the cleanest solution, otherwise just install the server on a regular desktop system
[16:35] <Milan1992> Is it possible to limeite the number of the clients on lan whom use a DLNA program which hosted form Ubuntu 10.10 server PC?
[16:36] <dr_willis> awkisopen,  try jockey-text ? i think thats the name..   jockey-<tab>
[16:36] <engammalsko> dr_willis: Okay, but last time I got some booting error and was unable to use my computer (not because of lamp) but something I did in hosts or in bind9
[16:36] <binki> I've seen something on some ubuntu machine I never see anywheres else; when I use middle-click to paste something into an xterm, the command I pasted doesn't get entered into bash's history and I can't use the up-arrow to retrieve that last executed command. Is this a ``feature''?
[16:36] <dr_willis> engammalsko,  no idea on that. I rarely have to mess with hosts or bind9
[16:36] <marshall> I've replaced the stock .bashrc on my ubuntu EC2 instance with my own custom file, complete with a new bash prompt $PS1, but when I ssh into the instance, I still get the old PS1 until I do `bash` to start a new shell. Any idea why this might happen?
[16:36] <awkisopen> dr_willis: Thank you, I will try it out
[16:36] <dr_willis> I cant imagine what  would keep it from booting, in those tools engammalsko
[16:37] <jrib> marshall: are you sure you are in bash when you login?
[16:37] <dr_willis> marshall,  the default shell is 'sh' not bash.
[16:37] <dr_willis> marshall,  i think ive seen this mentioned befor. :)
[16:37] <marshall> dr_willis: ohhhh, why might that be?
[16:37] <bampersand> dr_willis: nope, nothing is in dmesg when i press the button
[16:37] <dr_willis> marshall,  ask the EC2 people?
[16:37] <MrsB> awkisopen: Theres a page on the wiki here too : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:37] <marshall> dr_willis: why would somebody go with sh over bash?
[16:37] <jrib> yes, it's pretty stupid to have sh as login shell
[16:37] <marshall> dr_willis: ok
[16:37] <dr_willis> sh is a system shell.. normally.
[16:37] <awkisopen> MrsB: Thank you!
[16:38] <dr_willis> users shell is normally bash.. sh is also normally 'dash' in normal ubuntu.
[16:38] <MrsB> :)
[16:38] <dr_willis> marshall,  use chsh to change it.
[16:38] <dr_willis> sh uses less resources.
[16:38] <Milan1992> Is it possible to limeite the number of the clients on lan whom use a DLNA program which hosted form Ubuntu 10.10 server PC?
[16:38] <awkisopen> Heh, figures now the laptop won't work via ethernet
[16:38] <engammalsko> dr_willis: I also changed from 192.168.0.14 to 0.100 but I can't see how that made the computer unable to boot either. This happend twice. And my error was that xserver didn't work.
[16:39] <mosx1> ok, I re-burned at x1 - this time I'm getting: No init found. Try passing init= bootarg.
[16:39] <marshall> dr_willis: ah I see
[16:39] <engammalsko> But this was on my laptop, now I have a new computer. But well. In worst case I just need to reinstall my os. The only program I have is pidgin anyway haha
[16:39] <TehAndrewRyan> *snore*
[16:39] <tucemiux> how do you fix flash on firefox? The thing wont play !
[16:39] <dr_willis> TehAndrewRyan,  there is the askubuntu.com site also.. I have no experience with wireless troubleshooting.
[16:40] <dr_willis> other then the !wireless factoid
[16:40] <bampersand> dr_willis: http://pastie.org/2178476
[16:40] <dr_willis> bampersand,  so you had to paste that it showed nothing. :)
[16:41] <bampersand> dr_willis: heh, yeah.
[16:41] <dr_willis> bampersand,  theres the xev tool that might show if it even sends a keycode..
[16:41] <dr_willis> bampersand,  but ive never seen one of those buttons work on any webcam
[16:41] <marlboro62321> tucemiux : you dont fix what isnt broken. Flash is not natively installed so try to install it first
[16:41] <marshall> dr_willis: my default shell in /etc/passwd is /bin/bash, shouldn't that be the shell I get when I login?
[16:41] <bampersand> okay, yeah it probably won't work.. basically what i'm wanting is just a button, and i saw one on the webcam so i thought it'd be convenient to use that rather than another device
[16:41] <zeppelin101> for some reason, the brightness slider isn't working in ubuntu 11.04 for me. I have an Acer ASPIRE 5641-5763 laptop btw..
[16:41] <dr_willis> marshall,  check with 'echo $SHELL'
[16:42] <mosx1> I'm just ripping an ISO of my burnt CD to make sure it matches the original
[16:42] <bampersand> the webcam has a mic though, so perhaps i could try a simple voice command (though it's a low quality mic)
[16:42] <zeppelin101> i have tried the fix involving xorg.conf (pasting code into it), but it didn't fi x anything. any help is appreciated
[16:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:42] <marshall> dr_willis: `/bin/bash`
[16:43] <dr_willis> marshall,  weird..
[16:43] <marshall> dr_willis: yeah
[16:43] <Zxcvb> is it better to use ide or sata drives in a VM (ubuntu guest, ubuntu host)?
[16:43] <guitar_dave> sudo...sup
[16:44] <dr_willis> marshall,  put some echo commands in yoru system /etc/bashrc and users .bashrc to make it print out what ones are being ran.. could be some weird bug/setting
[16:44] <dr_willis> Zxcvb,  sata is normally used these days
[16:45] <mosx1> ok - I have confirmed my burnt CD is identical to the downloaded ISO but still I have this issue - am I stuck with using the alternative download CD ?
[16:45] <Zxcvb> dr_willis: is sata easier to emulate than ide?
[16:45] <guitar_dave> to any or all, how do i install a download?
[16:45] <ilangeeran> hello
[16:46] <tucemiux> great, now flash doesnt work at all on my laptop
[16:46] <ilangeeran> can you tell a good racing for 11.04?
[16:46] <guitar_dave> i downloaded open office, and i don't readily see an install app
[16:46] <marlboro62321> tucemiux, install restricted extras
[16:46] <marlboro62321> then reboot
[16:46] <phper_> dr_willis: But can virtuabox ubuntu see the dns of databases in the network if I experiment with the virtua dns server settings? and what is the difference between the box and vbox?
[16:46] <anomaliz> hello
[16:46] <xangua> guitar_dave: open office is n the reository
[16:47] <guitar_dave> reository?
[16:47] <tucemiux> marlboro62321: it used to work fine, I shouldnt have to reboot though,im using ubuntu, not windows
[16:47] <ilangeeran> please help me
[16:47] <barf> Anyone got a repo for novacut?
[16:47] <marlboro62321> guitar_dave : you dont download it like that. hwo did you install it? via software center?
[16:47] <Pici> guitar_dave: OpenOffice (or LibreOffice is installed by default on Ubuntu,.
[16:48] <guitar_dave> no...i went to open office site
[16:48] <creatorbri> Question: What is the CORRECT way to set my FQDN in 10.04 (Lucid)?
[16:48] <guitar_dave> pici...is open and libre the same?
[16:48] <Pici> guitar_dave: Essentially.
[16:48] <ChogyDan> barf: novacut doesn't exist yet
[16:48] <guitar_dave> ok...but how do i install anything in the future
[16:48] <ilangeeran> what is the end of life date for ubuntu 11.04?
[16:48] <tucemiux> guitar_dave: you think you can help me out with a guitar tab? :-)
[16:48] <awkisopen> Okay, new problem - up until now my Ubuntu Server install was using a shared internet connection over ethernet to connect to the Internet. Now, suddenly, I get all these "network is unreachable" errors. How can I reconfigure the Internet?
[16:49] <marlboro62321> guitar_dave use software center
[16:49] <archman> (i'm asking this for some other guy) i can't uninstall the ATI driver installed via their *.run installer. there's no aticonfig binary on my system and i can't do *.run --uninstall or anything. any help, maybe?
[16:49] <guitar_dave> tude...maybe...what's your question
[16:49] <bnesbitt> #mapnik
[16:49] <guitar_dave> marl...is there any other way?
[16:49] <Pici> !tab | guitar_dave
[16:49] <tucemiux> awkisopen: "shared internet connection over ethernet"??? Can you explain what you mean by ethernet??
[16:50] <ilangeeran> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:50] <archman> also, there's no fglrx-uninstall.sh or something like that on my system
[16:50] <awkisopen> tucemiux: A, um, ethernet cable?
[16:50] <creatorbri> Question: What is the CORRECT way to set my FQDN in 10.04 (Lucid)?
[16:50] <guitar_dave> tucemiux....what can i do for you
[16:50] <guitar_dave> in regards to tab
[16:50] <tucemiux> guitar_dave: you ever heard of rock the casbah by the clash?  I'm trying to figure out the lead riff in the chorus o.O
[16:51] <Roneet> can i delete partitions through an ubuntu live cd?
[16:51] <ilangeeran> how to join off topic channel?
[16:51] <Pici> ilangeeran: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:51] <chaddy>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:51] <Pici> tucemiux: Lets stay on-topic please.
[16:51] <awkisopen> That is to say I have another laptop without wireless problems sharing its wireless connection via an ethernet cable
[16:51] <tucemiux> awkisopen: OK but the ethernet cable doesnt give you connection to the internet, you have to connect that cable somewhere
[16:51] <jvgeli> Roneet : yes you can, the live CD has Gparted
[16:51] <awkisopen> And up until now, sharing that connection has been working
[16:52] <guitar_dave> Tucemiux...i suggest going to Ultimateguitar.com and they have everything
[16:52] <guitar_dave> EVERYTHING
[16:52] <Pici> guitar_dave: Please prefix your responses with the full nick of the person you are talking to, use your tab key to complete nicks.
[16:52] <tucemiux> Pici: ahhh so you can help me with flash on my laptop then?
[16:52] <Zxcvb> does the live cd use unity or X by default?
[16:52] <awkisopen> Right up until the moment I did apt-get remove bmcwl-kernel-source
[16:52] <Pici> tucemiux: I'm lousy with flash problems.
[16:52] <phper_> can ubuntu running through virtuabox see the dns of databases in my local work network?
[16:52] <Roneet> and how do i access terminal through the live cd?
[16:52] <Pici> Zxcvb: It uses unity and X.
[16:52] <guitar_dave> Pici...thanks
[16:53] <tucemiux> anyway,i removed all flash software from my laptop, then tried to browse a flash video, clicked on the adobe link, installed the software, lets see if that fixes it
[16:53] <Pici> Zxcvb: unity is a gnome-shell replacement, not an xorg replacement.
[16:53] <Time_Travel01> hello
[16:53] <tucemiux> guitar_dave: you want to go to talk in #opensourcemusicians for a few ?
[16:53] <Zxcvb> Pici: will it still try to use unity even if you don't have 3d acceleration
[16:53] <TL1> hey
[16:54] <guitar_dave> tucemiux, is that on the server?
[16:54] <tucemiux> flash still refuses to work on my god
[16:54] <Time_Travel01> well
[16:54] <Pici> Zxcvb: It will fall-back to gnome2 if you do not have 3d accelleration.  You can manually install unuty2d if you;d like though.
[16:54] <tucemiux> guitar_dave: /join #opensourcemusicians
[16:54] <Time_Travel01> it seems that i have already been to this time
[16:54] <Time_Travel01> that is odd
[16:54] <Roneet> How to access gparted on the live cd?
[16:54] <Zxcvb> Pici: just trying to get it working right in virtualbox
[16:54] <Pici> Time_Travel01: Lets stay on-topic here please.
[16:54] <Time_Travel01> im interested in this time
[16:54] <phper_> can someone help me please? I am trying to run a php script that needs php 5.3 through ubintu 11.4 running at virtuabox, but the php script can't connect to the dns of the database that is in the local network at work
[16:54] <TL1> LOL
[16:55] <Time_Travel01> but i hold a little bit of animosity towards it
[16:55] <TL1> terminal gparted
[16:55] <Time_Travel01> TL1 is there something wrong?
[16:55] <TL1> or menus
[16:55] <jvgeli1> Roneet : it should be under system
[16:55] <Dmole> how can I clone the rights from one file so another?  (ex: clone_rights.sh file1 file2)
[16:56] <Pici> Dmole: Both chmod and chown have a --reference option
[16:56] <Dmole> phper_: can you reach the DNS with dig?
[16:56] <KM0201> guitar_dave: u around?
[16:56] <Dmole> Pici: thanks for the hint I'll read the man...
[16:57] <mosx1> That is two machines I have tried this install CD on that have both not worked.
[16:57] <phper_> Dmole: I am not at work at the moment, but thanks
[16:58] <mithridates> anyone here has any difficulty with youtube today? [Ubuntu](noScript+Adblock-plus)
[16:58] <Dmole> phper_: try something like "dig @my.ns.tld somename.tld" maybe you have your vbox networking setup wrong~
[16:59] <TL1> i have it everyday
[16:59] <mosx1> that's four coasters I've made then - what is wrong with this install ISO?
[16:59] <phper_> Dmole: but can vbox ubuntu see dns of databases in the local windows network?
[16:59] <mithridates> TL1: yeah I have that kind of difficulty too but at least I could watch a video but now it's just a black screen, no button no sound no soul behind it
[17:00] <archman> to be precise, he gets "Uninstaller for ATI Catalyst(TM) Proprietary Driver, /usr/share/ati/amd-uninstall.sh, does not exist or cannot be found." when trying *.sh --uninstall
[17:00] <mosx1> and why does the Ubunt logo come up differently between the two machines I'm trying the CDs on?
[17:00] <ilangeeran> exit
[17:00] <Guest56180> exit
[17:01] <Dmole> phper_: should be able to you can ask it to make a bridge or NAT and mess with the settigns a bit but first narrow down the problem like what you can do and what you can't "ping google.com" etc
[17:01] <blargg> mithridates, exact same problem here. I eventually used Adobe settings manager to clear all Flash prefs for websites, rebooted, cleared the browser cache, and power cycled my modem/router.
[17:01] <awkisopen> By the way, why does sudo shutdown 0 never work on Ubuntu Server? It just gives me a recovery menu before rebooting again.
[17:01] <BLZbubba> anyone here familiar with grub-efi booting issues?
[17:01] <BLZbubba> awkisopen: i use shutdown -h 0
[17:01] <blargg> mithridates, not sure which fixed it. Flash on all other sites worked fine before that, just YouTube showed black screen.
[17:01] <TL1> it is i think "/exit"
[17:01] <BLZbubba> you can use "halt" too i think
[17:02] <BLZbubba> or the "vulcan nerve pinch" (hit the power button for 5 seconds) :)
[17:02] <Dmole> awkisopen: did "shutdown -r now" work?
[17:02] <Zxcvb> how well does unity work with virtualbox's 3d acceleration?
[17:02] <phper_> Dmole ask vbox or ubuntu to do a bridge or nat? and what is NAT?
[17:02] <Dmole> phper_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation
[17:02] <awkisopen> Dmole, BLZbubba: Thank you, I didn't know about that
[17:02] <no-name-> is ubuntu netbook edition just the same thing as plain ubuntu now?
[17:02] <Pici> no-name-: yes.
[17:02] <blargg> mithridates, that is, after all of the above, YouTube started working fine again.
[17:03] <mithridates> blargg: yes it worked now
[17:03] <Abhijit> how to rurn of laptop webcam off?
[17:03] <phper_> Dmole thanks, I will try dig tomorrow
[17:03] <dr_willis> Abhijit,  most have a switch/fn key. or you can unload the module
[17:03] <mithridates> Abhijit: sudo init 0
[17:03] <technikfreak> hello i have a really big problem with my xorg http://pastebin.com/qT5q30m4
[17:04] <mithridates> Abhijit don't do that please
[17:04] <mosx1> ok - maybe you guys can help me with this: I'm suspecting that the hdd may have failed in this machine that I am installing onto.
[17:04] <technikfreak> you mean a link?
[17:04] <mosx1> This time I have the message as follows:
[17:04] <mosx1> General error mounting filesystems.
[17:05] <mosx1> A maintenance shell will now be started.
[17:05] <kylesi> Hi ALL, I have a question on iso. Where can I find 11.04 image for Sparc?
[17:05] <technikfreak> if someone coudl check my log which i ahve pasted on http://pastebin.com/qT5q30m4
[17:06] <dr_willis> mosx1,  check dmesg output..  it may mention some hd errors..
[17:06] <rww> kylesi: SPARC is not a supported architecture for Ubuntu any more. Images haven't been made for it since before 8.04, and no supported versions of Ubuntu support it.
[17:07] <rww> s/before //
[17:07] <kylesi> rww, thanks
[17:07] <dr_willis> been ages since ive even heard sparc mentioned. :)
[17:07] <creatorbri> Question: What is the CORRECT way to set my FQDN in 10.04 (Lucid)?
[17:07] <Guest38993> i've a netbook but my screen is dimmed. what can i do?
[17:07] <rww> kylesi: If I may, I believe that Debian still supports it, and it's reasonably similar to Ubuntu.
[17:08] <kylesi> cool
[17:08] <dzone> Hi all! Is the error during install fixed already - Ubiquity error I mean!
[17:08] <mosx1> hmm..I ran that and it produced loads of error output lines
[17:08] <chipmonk> I have two ubuntu 10.10 machines with gadmin-samba installed on each. on the information they both say samba 3.5.4 status Activated
[17:08] <mosx1> Buffer I/O error on device sr0 ???
[17:08] <chipmonk> this machine also says inactive servers:winbindd
[17:08] <mosx1> which device is that ?
[17:09] <edbian> mosx1: Those are errors saying that it is having trouble reading the CD.
[17:09] <dr_willis> mosx1,  the cdrom
[17:09] <edbian> mosx1: I don't like that error.  Took me a long time to figure out what it meant.  It's cryptic.
[17:09] <mosx1> so basically the cdrom reader is screwed
[17:09] <chipmonk> what does this mean
[17:10] <dr_willis> disk bad.. drive may be flakey.. id try a usb install method
[17:11] <mosx1> pretty sure the disk is good dr_willis
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> mosx1: check dma is enabled with testdisk
[17:11] <dr_willis> ive had optical drives go 'weird' and out of alingment where they dont want to read  some disks.
[17:11] <dr_willis> even comercial made disks.
[17:12] <creatorbri> Question: What is the CORRECT way to set my FQDN in 10.04 (Lucid)?
[17:12] <dr_willis> hmm like this..
[17:12] <mosx1> testdisk produces: bash: /usr/bin/python: Input/Output error
[17:12] <dr_willis> !hostname
[17:13] <phper_> dnsmasq is available in ubuntu? Maybe i can use that to make my virtuabox ubuntu see the dns of databases in the local work network?
[17:13] <goltoof> 2/j css
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> phper_: is the vbox network interface set to bridged mode
[17:15] <dr_willis> phper_,  its also possible the databases are set where they only allow access from ip's on the same local lan.
[17:15] <semitones> hello, I've got a problem when I try to share a folder. Should I apt-get purge samba?
[17:15] <dr_willis> semitones,  i doubt if that will fix anything.
[17:16] <dr_willis> semitones,  you made an entry in /etc/samba/smb.conf ? or using the 'user created share' feature?
[17:17] <semitones> dr_willis: I'm not familiar with those terms. What is the 'user created share' feature
[17:17] <phper_> ActionParsnip: I will set the vbox to bridge mode tomorrow, I never though changed anything on vbox
[17:17] <phper_> dr_willis: I will ask the system administrator tomorrow
[17:17] <dr_willis> semitones,  right click on a folder..... share.....
[17:18] <semitones> dr_willis: that's what I'm trying to do right now, but I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/639612/
[17:18] <semitones> dr_willis: I did it successfully in the past I believe
[17:18] <dr_willis> semitones,  you are making a guest accessable share? or one for your user?
[17:18] <semitones> dr_willis: guest-accessible
[17:19] <MikeH> Hi, I'm looking for the most efficient method to copy files from a multi-disk LVM volume (EXT3) to an NTFS volume
[17:19] <dr_willis> semitones,  ive not tried that feature in 11.04. I normally just edit smb.conf and create the homes share.
[17:19] <MikeH> I'm thinking rsync may be the best option with it's ability to resume easily, but unsure of what options to use or what may be quickest?
[17:19] <phper_> dr_willis: iif the databases are set to allow access from ip's on the same local lan, it will be impossible to access the databases from the virtuabox ubuntu?
[17:20] <carbon357> Does anyone have some good comments on what log files are worth watching with security in mind.  ie// watching login's and file transfers etc...
[17:21] <dr_willis> phper_,  as we have mentioned Several times now.. there IS a virtualbox network setting that makes the vbox instance appear on the local lan as IF it was a 'real' machine on the local lan...
[17:21] <sudokill> carbon357, var log messages
[17:22] <semitones> dr_willis: it looks like my smb.conf is vanilla: http://paste.ubuntu.com/639617/
[17:22] <dr_willis> phper_,  or you could set up a ssh tunnle. but that would be a little overkll for a vbox on the lan.
[17:22] <semitones> how would i manually edit it
[17:22] <sudokill> carbon357, tail -f /var/log/messages is sometimes good to leave running
[17:22] <dr_willis> semitones,  with a text editor as root.. and some reading of the samba docs.
[17:22] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[17:22] <dr_willis> semitones,  are you sure samba is isntalled and running?
[17:23] <semitones> no -- how can i tell
[17:23] <carbon357> phper : yeah.  switch the network settings to "bridged adapter" instead of NAT
[17:24] <carbon357> sudokill : cool
[17:25] <carbon357> sudokill : so can I exclusively watch for logins threw that log .  I just look and see anyways but just wondering
[17:25] <phper_> dr_willis: thanks, that setting is the bridge mode?
[17:25] <sudokill> carbon357, it will shwow other things as well as logins
[17:25] <carbon357> sudokill :  cool
[17:25] <sudokill> i think auth.log is logins only
[17:25] <dr_willis> phper_,  i always have to reread the docs.. ior just try all the modes . till one of them gets a local lan ip.
[17:26] <phper_> dr_willis many thanks for the information
[17:26] <dr_willis> semitones,  try the sudo service command....
[17:26] <dr_willis> willis@Cowbuntu:~$ sudo service  smbd status
[17:27] <dr_willis> smbd start/running, process 1143
[17:27] <semitones> it's stop/waiting
[17:27] <dr_willis> phper_,  i learned it all from the vbox manuals. :) at the vbox homepage.
[17:27] <dr_willis> semitones,  its not running then.
[17:27] <semitones> hmm... how can I make it automatically start?
[17:27] <dr_willis> sudo service smbd start
[17:27] <Buffy> Hello
[17:27] <dr_willis> it should allready start automatically...
[17:27] <carbon357> anyone know what "     CRON[6704]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)    "     is.    I see it all the time.  Is it when I use sudo to elevate my privileges ?
[17:27] <Buffy> Can anyone help me with an update problem?
[17:27] <semitones> dr_willis: hmm well it doesn't
[17:27] <semitones> maybe that's what's causing all the problems
[17:28] <dr_willis> semitones,  or its starting and seeing no shares. so its exiting.. ive never had it not start when i install it.
[17:28] <dr_willis> semitones,  check the logs in -->  /var/log/samba
[17:29] <semitones> k, thanks
[17:29] <Buffy> Can anyone please help me with an update problem?
[17:29] <semitones> wow there are lots of logs
[17:30] <Buffy> CAN I please get help?
[17:30] <rww> !ask > Buffy
[17:31] <niklas_> hello
[17:31] <dr_willis> the log.smbd and log.nmbd are proberly  what you want to check out semitones
[17:32] <niklas_> can any one help me with ubuntu? i am not able to log into the internet exept google. my provider is alice, what could i do ?
[17:33] <semitones> dr_willis: it keeps giving me this error: [2011/07/05 11:47:45.505806, 0] lib/interface.c:519(load_interfaces)
[17:33] <semitones> ERROR: Could not determine network interfaces, you must use a interfaces config line
[17:33] <heslam> hey guys. i managed to bork my x-server and just reinstalling nvidia-current or trying to get the nouveau driver working isn't...working. what's the ...xorg reconfigure command?
[17:33] <tjiggi_fo> carbon357, CRON is a user like all others, and when she starts she needs to be authenticated. That's all that is
[17:33] <dr_willis> semitones,  odd. how are you networked?
[17:33] <Buffy> I keep getting "this page is not compatible with your browser" as an error when I try to use the internet. I also can't download any other browser, becaue I keep getting errors like "requires installation from untrusted sources"
[17:34] <semitones> heslam: i remember it being dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:34] <dr_willis> niklas_,  start with ping test  like .. ping freshmeat.net
[17:34] <semitones> dr_willis: I connect to my wireless network automatically with nm-applet
[17:34] <heslam> semitones: thanks, that sounds about right :)
[17:34] <dr_willis> niklas_,  then ping with  the ip -->  ping  216.34.181.101   , then try the http://216.34.181.101   see if any of those work.
[17:35] <dr_willis> semitones,  could be the samba server needs to be told what the wireless network interface is. it may not be the normal eth0 its used to.
[17:36] <carbon357> tjiggi_fo :   cool.  Yeah I figured after wards it must be a scheduled job by the system that needs root privileges.     would the 6704 part be the program id ?
[17:36] <tjiggi_fo> carbon357, correct
[17:37] <carbon357> nice
[17:37] <dr_willis> Night all.. gotta get to sleep.   semitones  you may need to mess witht he line in smb.conf --->  ;   interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0                                      iive never had to mess with that setting befor.
[17:37] <niklas_> the ping works, but i cant connect to that website
[17:40] <heslam> when i go to install nvidia-current, it claims that compiz, compiz-gnome, ubuntu-desktop, gnome-session, unity and xorg etc - pretty much everything graphical will be removed
[17:40] <heslam> what the hell's going on?
[17:40] <heslam> how can i tell it that i want nvidia-current but also would still quite like xorg
[17:44] <Odaym> I abruptly stopped the formatting process of an external hard drive, now when I plug it in it doesn't show up in /media/ but it does show up on `lsusb` and `dmesg`
[17:45] <Odaym> this happened when i was formatting the drive in ext4 and it didn't give me any permissions for it after finishing the formatting, only permissions for root
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> heslam: xorg will give the gui and use the nvidia driver, so you will have both
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> heslam: what is the output of: lsb_release -d
[17:46] <i2iot> I am having to hold my power button at least twice a day with 11.4.  How do you kill processes on Ubuntu?
[17:46] <Broseph> I'm trying to follow this guide (https://we.riseup.net/debian/publishing-git-repositories) to hosting a git repo on a test server but I'm getting "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" when I try and push
[17:46] <Odaym> man kill, i2iot
[17:46] <Broseph> oops wrong chat lol
[17:46] <i2iot> is there a ctrl alt del?
[17:46] <Zimopik> Hello there :P This is where I should ask questions in all of my idiocy, right?
[17:47] <Odaym> you don't need that, i2iot
[17:47] <Odaym> there is `ps ax | grep "process name"` for what you want to do
[17:47] <Odaym> or just `ps ax`
[17:47] <Odaym> or `top`
[17:47] <heslam> ActionParsnip: whoops! didn't see you reply
[17:47] <lechienkitu> hello, right that "rm -rf /*" is blocked in Ubuntu ?
[17:48] <Odaym> try, lechienkitu
[17:48] <heslam> ActionParsnip: lsb_release -d gives me 11.04 :P
[17:48] <rww> lechienkitu: no, and I don't recommend saying dangerous commands in here
[17:48] <blargg> i2iot, BTW, if you have "Mac-style" Alt enabled, you have to do something like Alt-Windows-Delete.
[17:48] <DarkKnightCZ> hi,i have this problem - soundcard "M-audio revolution 5.1",5.1 sound speakers (genius), "speaker-test -t wav -c 6" plays everything except front left speaker, ubuntu 10.10
[17:48] <lechienkitu> Odaym: ..
[17:49] <Zimopik> Well... Whatever xD
[17:49] <Zimopik> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and even though I have my computer to never dim the screen or the like set in power options it still does it... Can anyone help me out?
[17:49] <heslam> and i know xorg will give me the gui and use the nvidia driver - but apt-get install nvidia-current is telling me it will forcibly remove xorg if i try
[17:49] <Odaym> then don't post such commands in here if you wouldn't try them yourself, lechienkitu
[17:49] <lechienkitu> rww: yes, sorry. But a friend who works in ubuntu-fr said this.
[17:49] <lechienkitu> I'm sorry for it.
[17:50] <lechienkitu> but.. Must be as root for execute it ;)
[17:50] <blargg> lechienkitu, the * at the end is unnecessary :)
[17:50] <brophat> how do I get the control center onto the cairo dock?
[17:50] <lechienkitu> blargg: maybe.. but I like * :p
[17:51] <rww> lechienkitu, blargg: move on, please
[17:51]  * Odaym senses the troll
[17:51] <lechienkitu> Odaym: unnecessary, I quit :p
[17:52] <lechienkitu> (I'm on Debian, so.. I'm until here
[17:52] <lechienkitu> )
[17:52] <brophat> where is the control center located so i can drag it to the cairo dock
[17:55] <rww> brophat: /usr/bin/gnome-control-center
[17:55] <brophat> rww thanks
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> heslam: are there any bugs reported?
[17:56] <Dolbys> hi.. i want install in my vps a psybnc... i untar it.. and when i go in the folder.. write make but... command not found... why?
[17:57] <TonyTouch> Novice to the penguin need assistance. Im not able to tty (1-6) with current user/pass made a new acct and was able to login with that one (which btw is a normal user), cant seem to figure out the problem...
[17:57] <Corey> Dolbys: Install the build-essential metapackage first.
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> !compile | Dolbys
[17:57] <Corey> TonyTouch: Invalid credentials, from the sound of it.
[17:57] <Dolbys> Corey i've write apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[17:57] <Dolbys> but nothing
[17:58] <Corey> Dolbys: That's delightful, but isn't really relevant to what I said.
[17:58] <shugyosha> yosh
[17:58] <Dolbys> i write yum install build-essential
[17:58] <Dolbys> Corey
[17:58] <maco> Dolbys: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:59] <maco> Dolbys: yum is for fedora
[17:59] <Corey> Dolbys: Fantastic, yum is a RedHat-ism.
[17:59] <maco> TonyTouch: i cant login to TTY2 but can login to TTY3 and to the GUI
[17:59] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:59] <Dolbys> ok now works thanks Corey and maco
[18:01] <amalloy> is there a general way i can see what application/system is interpreting a given key combo? super-A seems to be interpreted as some kind of "show all windows", like mac's expose, but i'd like to bind that in emacs. i can't find it in compiz or in Keyboard Shortcuts. i'm on lucid fwiw
[18:01] <brophat> rww that file isn't executable
[18:02] <amalloy> ah, never mind. more searching through compiz found it in the Scale Windows section
[18:02] <Ceno3x> Hi guys. Is there anyway to lock the version of all the packages a certain ppa provives? Specificaly, I added the xorg-edgers ppa but I don't want to see any it updates it provides, I want to use it once and lock it. maybe update again in a month or so
[18:03] <DarkKnightCZ> i have this problem - soundcard "M-audio revolution 5.1",5.1 sound speakers (genius), "speaker-test -t wav -c 6" plays everything except front left speaker, ubuntu 10.10
[18:03] <Zimopik> Hey guys, I have a problem with my screen dimming and turning off and my computer going into sleep mode even though I have it disabled in power options... I'm using a laptop, if that helps any, too. I don't use the laptop screen so I have it closed and set to "Blank Screen" when laptop lid is closed, and it seems to work fine from that. But my computer keeps going to sleep despite the fact I have it set to "Never" on sleepin
[18:03] <beWilled> is there anyway to know which ftp my server is using?
[18:03] <Pici> beWilled: Often it will announce it when you connect.
[18:04] <beWilled> Pici i dont remeber the password
[18:04] <beWilled> should it apear in the processes?
[18:04] <Pici> beWilled: Yes.  If its running on a standard port: sudo netstat -tanp | grep 21
[18:05] <graingert> !question | melka
[18:06] <lrojas> can somebody explain to me the purpose of the ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)} in the PS1 variable that i get by default after installing the system?.
[18:06] <beWilled> Pici: TY!
[18:07] <amalloy> hm, it looks like super-s is bound to "open the shutdown menu". i'm having trouble finding the binding for that, too. does anyone know where it is, or how i could find out in general where a given key "goes"?
[18:07] <TDDER> ANYONE: How do I restore ubuntu that gives "grub rescue" when I turn on laptop
[18:08] <rww> lrojas: in short, if you're inside a chroot, that $PS1 will tell you that. if you don't know what a chroot is, it's unlikely you'll ever be inside one.
[18:08] <Pici> TDDER: Hold down your shift key during boot.
[18:08] <carl_> hey
[18:09] <sebsebseb> carl_: hi
[18:09] <TDDER> pici: ok just that an it will boot?
[18:09] <shezri_> ght
[18:09] <Pici> TDDER: Then it will give you the GRUB menu
[18:09] <lrojas> rww: thanks
[18:09] <TehAndrewRyan> hey Pici
[18:09] <TehAndrewRyan> you asked me for a pastebin, i sent it
[18:10] <DarkKnightCZ> noone can help me?
[18:10] <TehAndrewRyan> and you didn't read it?
[18:10] <TDDER> pici:thx
[18:10] <lrojas> rww: so is safe to set the prompt to something else without that part?
[18:10] <rww> lrojas: correct
[18:10] <rww> lrojas: I personally don't have it in my $PS1, and also removed the rest of the chroot-related stuff from my .bashrc
[18:11] <Pici> TehAndrewRyan: I meant that it would be helpful for people to troubleshoot if you actually had pasted the output from dmesg. I personally wasn't offering help, I don't even know what the issue you're having is.
[18:11] <TehAndrewRyan> Pici: PasteBin of what dmesg | tail said
[18:11] <TehAndrewRyan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/639566/
[18:11] <lrojas> rww: if you dont mind me asking, what is the purpose of the chroot? i know is helpfull when installing linux from a running system... but not sure how you can use it in everyday work
[18:12] <TehAndrewRyan> My wireless internet on my laptop (not my ordinary comp) randomly disconnects and then it won't reconnect until I restart the computer
[18:13] <rww> lrojas: they're often used when making Debian packages; I suspect that's why that ended up in the Debian default dotfiles :)
[18:13] <TehAndrewRyan> !pastebin
[18:13] <rww> lrojas: and since that section of .bashrc does nothing if you're not in a chroot, it's useful for the few people that use them and doesn't affect everyone else
[18:13] <extraclassic> I saw a video about bsd jails and you have to chroot to set those up...they seemed pretty cool
[18:14] <TehAndrewRyan> Seriously, noone out of a couple of hundreds here are unable to elp me with my problem?
[18:15] <TehAndrewRyan> I'm the least responded here, I see other people getting answered all the time
[18:15] <extraclassic> TehAndrewRyan: your question wasn't specific enough for anyone to know what's going on
[18:15] <BluesKaj> TehAndrewRyan, describe your problem without pastebin pls
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: when it drops, run:  dmesg | tail
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: what is output?
[18:16] <TehAndrewRyan> Everynow and then, my wireless connection disconnects (on my laptop)
[18:16] <TehAndrewRyan> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/639566/
[18:16] <TehAndrewRyan> Once it's disconnected, it won't reconnect until I restart the computer
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: tried a different wireless channel?
[18:16] <TehAndrewRyan> It's like trying to reconnect, without success
[18:17] <i2iot> blargg, I am on a macbook pro and can't figure out what the shortcut to kill programs
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> i2iot: xkill for gui apps or you can use the kill command in terminal
[18:18] <TonyTouch> I still trying to figure the problem with my main user account (the one I created when installing the OS) not being able to access the any of the tty lines (1-6) yet when testing to narrow the problem down I created a new account and was able to log in perfectly in all tty lines (1-6) the user have the normal permissions given when creating a normal account. I've check the privileges between the accounts and my main has all of the new user acct priv
[18:18] <TonyTouch> ileges + more.
[18:18] <i2iot> Odaym, how do I use man kill? I don't see it in the repos
[18:18] <TehAndrewRyan> Well, what does the output in the PasteBin say?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> i2iot: its in the terminal
[18:18] <i2iot> hmm
[18:18] <beWilled> I have and ftp user, how do I edit its details?
[18:18] <Mandrew> how do i check if the processor have 32bit or 64bit support in in ubuntu?
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> i2iot: you can use the processname or you can use the PID
[18:19] <Odaym> i2iot, go to the terminal, and type "man kill"
[18:19] <i2iot> ActionParsnip, I have xkill installed but how do I use it?
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> i2iot: run xkill then click the app to kill
[18:19] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip, tnx
[18:19] <i2iot> hmm
[18:19] <jrolland-ubuntu> I can't get the Unity sidebar to hide
[18:19] <Odaym> that too
[18:19] <i2iot> Ohhhhh
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: search the web for the CPU you have and you will see what it is
[18:19] <maco> Mandrew: grep cache_alignment /proc/cpuinfo
[18:19] <i2iot> Cool
[18:19] <Odaym> very cool
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> jrolland-ubuntu: is it unity 2d or unity normal?
[18:20] <jrolland-ubuntu> unity normal
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> jrolland-ubuntu: its set in ccsm
[18:20] <i2iot> ActionParsnip, Awesome!
[18:20] <i2iot> What if my system as a whole freezes up, as it does twice daily?
[18:20] <lookin4>  i had windows xp on my one of my drives(another partition still ntfs) I installed ubuntu 10.10 on the windows xp partition by formatting it, still i get the grub with windows xp as one option.. how to fix this? ne1 help!!
[18:20] <i2iot> Is my only option to hold down the power button?
[18:21] <TehAndrewRyan> Wow obviously it doesn't matter if i write any details of my problem, noone responds anyway, and the only way to get attention is like this
[18:21] <beWilled> How do I change a user's main directory?
[18:21] <Mandrew> maco it says cache_alignment	: 64
[18:21] <Mandrew> cache_alignment	: 64 does that tell you anything?
[18:21] <amalloy> TehAndrewRyan: unlucky, maybe you should ask for a refund on your #ubuntu dues
[18:21] <i2iot> TehAndrewRyan, sounds like a problem not with Ubuntu specifically
[18:22] <purfirio> Ciao a tutti!!!
[18:22] <lookin4> Hello ppl
[18:22] <Pici> !it | purfirio
[18:22] <TehAndrewRyan> i2iot: How comes that it's the only computer which doesn't work with wireless in my house then?
[18:22] <purfirio> thankyou
[18:22] <lookin4> have started with linux recntly and facing some issues, can any one help?
[18:22] <maco> Mandrew: 64bit then
[18:23] <Mandrew> aah crap i got one of those :S The Atom N2xx and Z5xx series Atom models cannot run x86-64 code
[18:24] <jrolland-ubuntu> Could you repeat that? Unity went FUBAR on my and I needed to do a hard reboot :(
[18:24] <Mandrew> tnx maco and ActionParsnip
[18:24] <extraclassic> lookin4: you can try "update-grub"
[18:24] <BluesKaj> lookin4, does , sudo update-grub , in the terminal show the windows entry ?
[18:25] <TehAndrewRyan> Since you obviously can't help me with my internet problem, can any of you at least help me with another problem?
[18:25] <lookin4> yes it does
[18:25] <lookin4> and i tried update grub as well
[18:25] <lookin4> din wor
[18:25] <lookin4> *work
[18:26] <TehAndrewRyan> For some reason the laptop with Ubuntu also think that I got a secondary monitor, though I've never connected one to it. So some programs opens on the side of the screen, where I can't reach it nor see it
[18:26] <Mandrew> TehAndrewRyan, what kind of help do you need?
[18:26] <Mandrew> TehAndrewRyan, with the internet
[18:26] <BluesKaj> TehAndrewRyan, did you try switching wireless channels as was suggested earlier ? we have to know hat you have and haven't done
[18:26] <lookin4_> got disconnected..
[18:26] <TehAndrewRyan> What do you mean with "switch wireless channels"?
[18:27] <lookin4_> extraclassic and blueskaj.. any other tip..
[18:27] <BluesKaj> on your router , TehAndrewRyan
[18:28] <lookin4_> i even get some other options like memtest and some generic thing.. how do i just make it open ubunut automatically without asking me for option
[18:28] <sisker> I need some help setting a static IP, using a terminal only, on Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop. I'm sshed into the box. I've been told that I can't just edit the /etc/network/interface file on the Desktop version. Any tips?
[18:29] <oconnore> Hi, how do I recover from a bad fglrx install? I want to use the open source ati driver again, but now my screen goes black a little while into bootup.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> sisker: let me get you a link. You will also need to define dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:30] <djskidd> lol i just did /grep -r minecraft. 259 results
[18:30] <JohnSS__> How do I see the current version of a program from CLI?
[18:30] <TehAndrewRyan> What would happen if I switch channel on my router?
[18:30] <oconnore> Apt could not successfully remove fglrx, so I had to remove things manually...
[18:30] <lvh> Hi!
[18:30] <oconnore> TehAndrewRyan: You would lose your connection for a few seconds and then reconnect.
[18:31] <TehAndrewRyan> What I don't get is how the computer can connect to the router at boot, but gets disconnected after a short period of time (like 10 minutes or so)
[18:31] <lvh> How can I access an SFTP mount I made in Nautilus outside of Nautilus? (ie not using sshfs)
[18:31] <lvh> I thought it was .gvfs, but I get cd: .gvfs: Transport endpoint is not connected when I go there.
[18:31] <oconnore> TehAndrewRyan: It could be a bug in your router, or a problem with the signal.
[18:32] <BluesKaj> lookin4_, check this out  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/clean-up-the-new-ubuntu-grub2-boot-menu/
[18:32] <TehAndrewRyan> But if it's a bug, why's all other wireless devices working flawless with it?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> sisker: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[18:33] <TehAndrewRyan> why are*
[18:33] <sisker> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[18:33] <lookin4_> @blueskaj thanks..
[18:34] <lookin4_> will try it
[18:34] <oconnore> TehAndrewRyan: Oh, well it could be a problem with your laptop driver/hardware. You could search for your router name and see if any problems are known. Or are all the other devices physically closer to the router?
[18:34] <TehAndrewRyan> No actually the laptop is the closest unit to the router
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: its worth trying just so you can rule out channel as the cause. Most home grade routers use channel 11. Too many channel 11s and you get issues
[18:35] <nmaxchat> Hello. I am not sure this is the right place but I may as well ask. I want to know where to get my iPhone 3GS unlocked & Jailbroken. I did it myself for my iphone 2 but it was absolute hell. I am willing to pay a resaonable fee but do not want to be conned and break my iphone. Any advice ?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> nmaxchat: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:36] <oconnore> nmaxchat: Are you going to put Ubuntu on your iPhone? That would be relevant.
[18:36] <oconnore> :)
[18:36] <TehAndrewRyan> Another odd thing: once I've rebooted it after the first disconnect, it won't disconnect again (until it has been shut down for an hour or more)
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: do you dualboot?
[18:36] <nmaxchat> ActionParsnip, thnaks. I dont really want to have to learn something new right now. (Bad ADHD)
[18:37] <TehAndrewRyan> Not on the laptop, it's a pure Ubuntu computer
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: ok that makes life simpler
[18:38] <ionut> sal all
[18:38] <lookin4_> exit
[18:38] <zeppelin101> for some reason, the brightness slider isn't working in ubuntu 11.04 for me. I have an Acer ASPIRE 5641-5763 laptop. i have tried the fix involving xorg.conf (pasting code into it), but it didn't fi x anything. any help is appreciated
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: all i can suggest is latest bios and full updates. Also disable wake-on-lan in bios. The channel would be good to explore
[18:40] <ricardisimo> Is this the channel where I might find some help with a LibreOffice issue?
[18:40] <sisker> How do I restart networking on Desktop version through terminal? I don't see the networking service in init.d/
[18:40] <sisker> SSHed in
[18:41] <mauro> holaaa...
[18:41] <mauro> ...
[18:41] <BluesKaj> sisker, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:42] <rww> BluesKaj: "I don't see the networking service in init.d/"
[18:42] <mauro> holaaa..
[18:42] <sisker> BluesKaj: Tried that
[18:42] <rww> mauro: Hi, welcome to #ubuntu, the English-language support channel for Ubuntu Linux.
[18:42] <Dmole> Pici: --reference is missing on some other OSs any alternatives?
[18:42] <Pici> Dmole: Not off the top of my head.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> zeppelin101: try adding the boot option: acpi_osi=
[18:43] <nmaxchat> ActionParsnip, I was steered to * ##iphone but get this: * ##iphone :Cannot send to channel What does that mean ?
[18:43] <rww> nmaxchat: that you'll need to register with nickserv to talk there
[18:43] <rww> !register
[18:43] <djskidd> #iphone
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> nmaxchat: ask in #freenode not sure myself. I don't use cruddy iphones
[18:44] <outer_space> I just started an Ubuntu server.  Why does it download index.php?  Can I make it render index.php instead?
[18:44] <TehAndrewRyan> It's a quite odd BIOS on this comp, what's UEFI boot?
[18:45] <nmaxchat> ActionParsnip, I would avoid them but am on disability right now and inherited this one. I dont like the way Apple  is behaving.
[18:45] <maco> outer_space: are php5.conf and php5.load in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ?
[18:45] <outer_space> yes
[18:45] <maco> outer_space: is AddType application/x-httpd-php .php    in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[18:46] <rww> outer_space: have you restarted apache recently?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> outer_space:
[18:46] <outer_space> there is no AddType in apache2.conf
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> outer_space: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP   shows how to stop it downloading
[18:47] <rww> maco: wouldn't that be in an include file somewhere/
[18:48] <theseum> hi
[18:48] <maco> rww: on mine thats right in apache2.conf
[18:48] <rww> maco: hrm
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> outer_space: you need a package installing
[18:48] <outer_space> which package?
[18:48] <sisker> I edited the /etc/network/interfaces file on Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop, put in the static info I need for eth0 . Rebooted. It came back up with DHCP again.
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> outer_space: read the link
[18:49] <stercor> What's the command to find out which video card is installed?  Also, if possible, which monitor/
[18:49] <outer_space> this is a default ubuntu install with only tasksel lamp installed
[18:49] <nmaxchat> rww, thks
[18:49] <theseum> my menu bar keeps turning light grey, and terminal windows become black on white instead of semi-transparent, and in general everything becomes ugly
[18:49] <theseum> what does this mean?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> sisker: can you pastebin the file please
[18:49] <pr0ton> does centOS use RPM or DEB ? (i'm ssh'd into a server which uses CentOS)
[18:49] <check3r> the gdb machine code window says: A syntax error in expression, near `0x80484b5'. (clean install) ?!
[18:50] <Pici> pr0ton: Ask #centos
[18:50] <rww> pr0ton: RPM
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> theseum: its compiz showing a hung app
[18:50] <coz_> pr0ton,  I am almost positive it is rpm
[18:50] <check3r> the bug was reported months ago but still no fix? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ddd/+bug/594883
[18:50] <TehAndrewRyan> Disabling Boot on LAN does what?
[18:50] <theseum> actionparsnip: it's like that way all the time tho
[18:50] <maco> outer_space: libapache2-mod-php5 is the one the wiki page says
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: means the system won't attempt to PXE boot
[18:51] <rww> check3r: correct
[18:51] <check3r> -.-
[18:51] <JohnSS_> Why does installing something or moving it over to /opt always cause it to have a username of root and belong to the root group?
[18:51] <TehAndrewRyan> Which is?
[18:51] <GenghisKhan> hello guys,i'm new here
[18:51] <coz_> GenghisKhan,  welcome
[18:51] <outer_space> I have installed libapache2-mod-php5, I am telling you this is a default ubuntu install with tasksel lamp installed
[18:51] <sisker> ActionParsnip:  https://gist.github.com/1070253
[18:51] <hobbel> can a broken powercord make your system freeze? my system runs great, as soon as i plug in the power it starts to lag tremendously
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: connect to a PXE server and start booting some defined media or OS
[18:52] <TehAndrewRyan> Ok
[18:52] <maco> outer_space: maybe try putting that line thats in my apache2.conf but isnt in yours into yours
[18:52] <Luxe> http://tahigwa.tumblr.com
[18:53] <Luxe> ;o
[18:53] <outer_space> is yours the latest ubuntu?
[18:53] <maco> outer_space: no, i'm on 10.04
[18:53] <maco> i dont run servers on non-LTS
[18:54] <outer_space> all the files are different on latest ubuntu
[18:54] <theseum> actionparsnip: in general, it either happens right after i boot, or it never happens
[18:54] <outer_space> why is latest ubuntu not parsing php files?
[18:54] <maco> outer_space: i dont think a default config of ubuntu has *ever* parsed php files
[18:54] <outer_space> the docs are out of date help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[18:55] <sisker> It's like the little GUI app to set the IP in the Desktop version doesn't let the /etc/network/interfaces file define the IP
[18:55] <BluesKaj> sisker, rww , install net-tools , if you have no networking
[18:55] <maco> outer_space: people in #ubuntu-server might know better
[18:55] <lookin4> hey blueskaj its me again
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> sisker: you missed:   auto eth0
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> sisker: it clearly has it in the link I gave
[18:56] <sisker> ActionParsnip: dang it... thanks again. must have missed it
[18:57] <lookin4> tried that site.. talks about removing entries.. i don't know from where does grub finds windows on my system when i formatted the partition and installed ubuntu on that partition
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Sisker:no worries. Don't forget DNS ;)
[18:58] <BluesKaj> lookin4, did you remove the windows entry in grub ?
[18:59] <lookin4> it was mentioned in os_prober kind of file..
[18:59] <lookin4> not directly but i think the code looks for any other os and if it finds it it shows it there..
[18:59] <lookin4> not sure how to undo that..??
[18:59] <nmaxchat> rww, I am trying to register but I am hopeless... Where is it that I type Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email-address> and do I type the < ?
[18:59] <lookin4> should i just remoe that file..?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> lookin4: if you run: sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub    is it better?
[19:00] <lookin4> let me try
[19:00] <pk___> hello i need help...i installed ubuntu using WUBI...now when i boot..sometimes it boots ubuntu succesfully but manytimes it show grub menu and i am stuck please help
[19:00] <rww> nmaxchat: type /query nickserv, then type it in the new tab that appears
[19:00] <guntbert> nmaxchat: no, the <  >  are just delimiters for you, don't type them
[19:01] <nmaxchat> Merci folks
[19:01] <randomseed> It looks like I should install Lubuntu n a netbook I inherited. What does  one get for repos with Lubuntu?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> pk___: is the ntfs partition healthy?
[19:01] <lookin4> sudo 30_os-prober gives error .. command not found..
[19:01] <BluesKaj> pk that what wubi does it shows the grub menu so you can choose windows or ubuntu
[19:01] <rww> nmaxchat: de rien
[19:02] <skarjoko> the laptop with Ubuntu also think that I got a secondary monitor, though I've never connected one to it. So some programs opens on the side of the screen, where I can't reach it nor see it
[19:02] <skarjoko> 14:26 < Mandrew> TehAndrewRyan, what kind of the laptop with Ubuntu also think that I got a secondary monitor, though I've never connected one to it. So some programs opens on the side of the screen, where I can't reach it nor see it
[19:02] <Jason> Hey folks, I'm trying to limit SSH connection attempts using ufw.  The documentation shows "ufw limit ssh/tcp", but when I do this, it seems that it is not a valid command
[19:02] <skarjoko> 14:26 < Mandrew> TehAndrewRyan, what kind of the laptop with Ubuntu also think that I got a secondary monitor, though I've never connected one to it. So some programs opens on the side of the screen, where I can't reach it nor see it
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> randomseed: lubuntu stuffs are pulled from the same servers as u
[19:02] <FloodBot1> skarjoko: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <skarjoko> oops
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> randomseed: as ubuntu is from
[19:02] <skarjoko> sorry bout that, sat on my touchpad
[19:03] <randomseed> ActionParsnip, cool, that will work for me, thanks for the info.
[19:03] <lookin4> /etc/grub.d$ sudo 30_os-prober
[19:03] <lookin4> sudo: 30_os-prober: command not found
[19:03] <nmaxchat> rww, Here is my interaction avec Nickserv so far....  /msg nickserv register password nma@cal.berkeley.edu
[19:03] <nmaxchat> -NickServ- Invalid command. Use /msg NickServ help for a command listing.
 help
[19:04] <TehAndrewRyan> skarjoko: what?
[19:04] <skarjoko> TehAndrewRyan: heh ignore that, mishap with my touchpad
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> randomseed: its a great thing and official after oneiric
[19:04] <rww> nmaxchat: ask in #freenode
[19:04] <TehAndrewRyan> skarjoko: lol
[19:05] <Jason> I'm using 8.04 LTS
[19:05] <nmaxchat> rww, Will do
[19:05] <theseum> i think that what i'm seeing is what compiz looks like with no hardware acceleration
[19:05] <theseum> but it only happens some of the time
[19:05] <pk___> ActionParsnip: i dont know
[19:05] <pk___> how to check
[19:05] <rww> theseum: Compiz won't start without acceleration. You're probably looking at gnome with no settings daemon
[19:05] <BluesKaj> lookin4,   sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub , copy and paste that into the terminal
[19:06] <theseum> rww: ah
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> pk___: kick off a chkdsk in windows
[19:06] <pfifo> My computer keeps crashing without warning, where can I get information about whats happening?
[19:06] <TehAndrewRyan> Well I guess I'll have to live with the internet problem, but can anyone help me with the monitor-thingy?
[19:06] <theseum> rww: how do i figure out what is going on?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: i'd start with a memtest
[19:07] <randomseed> ActionParsnip, XP is disappointing, After installing word the 8.6 gig ssd drive was full
[19:07] <pk___> ActionParsnip: okk running..deleting some corrupt records
[19:07] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, I dont think I can do a memtest
[19:07] <BluesKaj> pfifo, in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: try the bootoption: nomodeset
[19:07] <TehAndrewRyan> Where can I change that?
[19:07] <Travis-42> What program do I use on Ubuntu server to read and mark as read the mail that Ubuntu tells me I have when I log in on the command line? I can read it with cat, but how to mark it as read?
[19:08] <claviusmond> any radiotray user in here?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: hold shift at boot and select memtest
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | TehAndrewRyan
[19:09] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, custom grub.cfg
[19:09] <TehAndrewRyan> !nomodeset
[19:09] <SnowmanX11> Does somebody use amsn under 11.04?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: try researching a little once direction has been given, it will make you more autonomous
[19:09] <Hussain> i wanted the url for the ubuntu iso repos. ?
[19:10] <TehAndrewRyan> I've been trying to research a LOT before coming here, this was like my last chance of getting help
[19:10] <Hussain> kindly help
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: you can run one from the install cd
[19:10] <guntbert> !download | Hussain
[19:11] <Hussain> ok thanks a lot.
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Hussain: www.ubuntu.com has download links....
[19:11] <theseum> ok, how do i tell what window manager is running?
[19:11] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, no cd burner, I can copy the binary to my boot though. brb
[19:12] <coz_> Hussain,  you also have this option   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> theseum: ps -ef | grep compiz; ps -ef | metacity   maybe
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: you get the idea
[19:12] <theseum> compiz is running
[19:13] <proby> hello i  got this error even with normal commands 3 posts - 2 authors - Last post: 8 Feb
[19:13] <Hussain> to be more specific i wanted the ubuntu with pv drivers?
[19:13] <proby> This is most likely caused by the lack of administrative priviledges associated with your user account.
[19:13] <TehAndrewRyan> Any command in terminal to display info about the network card?
[19:13] <coz_> theseum,  you can open ccsm   click on the window decoration plugin,,,what is in the "Command" field ??
[19:13] <coz_> theseum,  also which window decorator do you want to use??
[19:13] <newbie01> how do I erase my hard disk from a usb?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: sudo lshw -C network
[19:14] <theseum> coz_ getting ccsm now
[19:14] <theseum> coz_: i have no idea
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> newbie01: use gparted
[19:14] <westz> theres a video editor called kdenlive that was rated pretty well. i run ubuntu with gnome 2. can i use kdenlive?
[19:14] <coz_> theseum,  are you on 11.04  with unity?
[19:14] <theseum> coz_: yes
[19:15] <theseum> i think
[19:15] <coz_> theseum,  ok then you want to use  gtk-window-decorator  for that
[19:15] <newbie01> ActionParsnip, there something called kill disk, i dont how to get it on a usb
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> westz: sure you'll just pull in a tonne of Qt deps
[19:15] <coz_> theseum,  when you open ccsm and click on the window decoration plugin,,, in the "Command"  field  remove what is there and type    gtk-window-decorator --replace
[19:16] <westz> ActionParsnip, so being on a little netbook, this probably wouldnt go over well?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Newbie01: if you want secure delete then you can use dd to zero out the partition
[19:17] <jhambo> I'm running XP guest in virtualbox.  From the XP guest I want to "burn" to a CD image (rather than a physical CD).  Is that possible?
[19:17] <theseum> coz_: the command is currently compiz-decorator
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> westz: depends how much space you have
 still have win xp on list
[19:17] <coz_> theseum,  right,, just replace that with   gtk-window-decorator --replace
[19:17] <newbie01> ActionParsnip, I want to do this on my laptop which im using now, how do I practically do it
[19:18] <BluesKaj> lookin4, does it boot ? :)
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> newbie01: something like: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdz
[19:18] <westz> ive got a gig of ram and a 1.6 ghz proc. space isnt a problem (got more than half my 250gb drive left) but if i'm running something intensive inside of a bunch of fixes
[19:18] <theseum> coz_: should that have fixed the menu bar right away?
[19:19] <coz_> theseum,  should have yes
[19:19] <westz> *it's going to run slower than flowing dog crap
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Newbie01: replace sdz with your actual drive name
[19:19] <coz_> theseum,   is the window title bar not showing up?
[19:19] <theseum> coz_: nope
[19:19] <theseum> coz_: i'm talking about the bar at the top of the screen, with the clock and stuff
[19:19] <sgerbino> can anyone help me out with auto-mounting USB externals I use for backups in a script?
[19:20] <coz_> theseum,  oh!
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> westz: how do you mean "fixes"?
[19:20] <coz_> theseum,   is it not there or what?
[19:20] <newbie01> ActionParsnip, Will the process complete if the ubuntu OS will be wiped while carrying out the erasing, if you see what I mean
[19:20] <theseum> coz_: it just looks wrong, it's light grey instead of dark grey
[19:20] <westz> ActionParsnip, i mean if it's depending on what is essentially a runtime emulator
[19:21] <theseum> coz_: also, the semitransparency is gone in the terminal window
[19:21] <wims> hows the mp3 / video format support these days?
[19:21] <theseum> coz_: and all of the icons are different
[19:21] <wims> is it supported right out of the box?
 nope it doesn't ..dont have it on my system ne more
[19:21] <coz_> theseum,  different from what?
[19:21] <theseum> coz_: from how they used to be
[19:21] <theseum> uglier
[19:22] <lookin4> formatted and installed ubuntu on the same partition (i have another ntfs partition though)
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Newbie01: the command runs until either ends. /dev/zero in infinite so it will do the full drive, you can even use individual partitions to zero out
[19:22] <coz_> theseum,  go under system/preferences/appearance   click Customize button and change the  Icon theme  see if that makes a difference ..also,,, take a screen shot and upload to picpaste.com so we can see it
[19:23] <BluesKaj> lookin4, now you tell us ...looks like th ntfs is listing as windows
[19:23] <toroasd> how do i install hci2hid
[19:23] <theseum> coz how do i take screenshot?
[19:23] <westz> also, unrelated, how can i change my computer's "name"
[19:23] <toroasd> sorry hid2hci
 but its pointing to the same partition windows was on..
[19:23] <mikebeauc> Just wondering if anyone knows of a quick fix to change the scrollbars in 11.04 back to 10.10?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> westz: ope
[19:24] <lookin4> or may be the ntfs partition..
[19:24] <lookin4> so how to solve it??
[19:24] <coz_> theseum,   hit the  printscreen button
[19:24] <Pici> mikebeauc: remove the overlay-scrollbar package
[19:24] <BluesKaj> lookin4, don't worry about it , if ubuntu is booting ok ..it could be a small glitch
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> westz: open BOTH /etc/hostname and /etc/resolv.conf in gedit (needs gksudo to get write access)
[19:25] <mikebeauc> Pici> thank you
[19:25] <mikebeauc> I'll try that now.
 ok.. so should i just go ahead and make the 30_os-prober file un executable?
[19:25] <lookin4> so that i wont have it on my grub.cfg list
[19:25] <lookin4> and ubuntu will boot auto
[19:26] <BluesKaj> no
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> westz: then change the name in both files then save both. Close the gedits and reboot :-)
[19:26] <toroasd> any one know how i can install hid2hci?
[19:26] <theseum> coz_: don't have one, here's the pic http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-KaKiwwFN.png
[19:27] <BluesKaj> lookin4, you can try that,  then sudo updte-grub
[19:27] <TehAndrewRyan> I believe I found the reason to why my internet is dropping
[19:27] <cdavis> If I purchase a macbook can I install Ubuntu on it without fuss?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> err update-grub
 will try ..thanks man!!
[19:28] <coz_> theseum,  ah I see.. try restarting x  with  ctrl+alt+F1   log in   type    sudo restart  gdm    then come back here
[19:28] <BluesKaj> TehAndrewRyan,, too many hosts on ch6
[19:28] <lookin4> this time no XP on list.. will try rebooting now..!! :D
[19:28] <TehAndrewRyan> No, it only drops when playing Minecraft on a server, don't know why though, seems to be a common issue
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> TehAndrewRyan: try disabling ipv6 (i assume you don't use it)
[19:29] <TehAndrewRyan> ActionParsnip: It's already disabled
[19:30] <theseum> coz_: ok i'm back, the same thing happened again, it looked good for maybe 5 seconds before turning grey
[19:31] <coz_> theseum,  did you install any new themes recently?
[19:31] <theseum> coz_: no i've never installed anything
[19:32] <coz_> theseum,  ok  open a terminal     gnome-appearance-properties
[19:32] <theseum> coz_: the problem has been happening randomly, with increasing frequency
[19:32] <TehAndrewRyan> ActionParsnip: The computer uses an Intel network card, do you think it would help updating it?
[19:32] <coz_> theseum,  when that opens hit the  "Customize" button
[19:33] <theseum> coz_: ok
[19:33] <coz_> theseum,  under the "Controls" tab, change the theme to Radiance,, then move over to the  "WIndow border" tab and do t he same
[19:33] <mountaindew123> hey
[19:33] <mountaindew123> hey
[19:33] <tjiggi_fo> you already said that
[19:34] <theseum> coz_: ok
[19:34] <guntbert> mountaindew123:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:34] <coz_> theseum,  that "should"  give a light theme to the windows and the upper panel
[19:34] <mountaindew123> what?
[19:34] <theseum> coz_: should the upper panel have a gradient now?
[19:34] <coz_> theseum,   it should of sorts yes
[19:34] <mountaindew123> im confused lol
[19:35] <coz_> theseum,  let me screenshot what that should look like hold on
[19:35] <sillykone> I'm having a problem with my key bindings: namely simulated middle click and many of the CTRL functions (for Blender).
[19:35] <theseum> coz_: nothing i'm doing has any effect on the upper panel
[19:35] <mountaindew123> what is this chat even for?
[19:35] <sillykone> Anybody having problem with key bindings?
[19:35] <h00k> ubottu: tell mountaindew123 about topic
[19:36] <BluesKaj> mountaindew123, ubuntu support
[19:36] <mountaindew123> like are you just people who sit on your comp all the time?
[19:36] <coz_> theseum,  hmm,, something is up with the gtk themeing there
[19:36] <Funkmaster7> Im using Ubuntu and the pre-loaded calendar app keeps opening by itself.
[19:36] <coz_> theseum,  it should look like this    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/Screenshot.png
[19:36] <Funkmaster7> any ideas on whats going on?
[19:36] <h00k> mountaindew123: do you have an Ubuntu related support question? If not, please head to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[19:36] <coz_> theseum,  out of curosity  try different themes
[19:37] <theseum> coz_: yeah, like i said, no effect on the top panel
[19:37] <theseum> coz_: or the terminal
[19:37] <coz_> theseum,  out of curiosity  in terminal paste this command      lspci | grep -i vga
[19:38] <io> e/12
[19:38] <Funkmaster7> anyone have any insights as to why my calendar app keeps opening on its own?
[19:38] <theseum> coz_ 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[19:39] <coz_> theseum,  ok  ,,,  you arent by change running this is vm are you?
[19:39] <theseum> coz_ no
[19:39] <coz_> ok
[19:39] <theseum> coz_ i did one click windows install
[19:39] <theseum> coz_ so it's running out of that image
[19:40] <coz_> theseum,  you are using wubi install for this?
[19:40] <theseum> coz_ i think so, yeah
[19:40] <theseum> makes an image on the ntfs volume and boots from that somehow?
[19:40] <guntbert> !enter | theseum
[19:41] <coz_> theseum, mmm  ok ,, I have no experience with wubi installs,, let me see if I can find an reference to this
[19:41] <Funkmaster7> My calendar program on ubuntu opens up by itself. Does anyone know why this is
[19:42] <sbalmos> good afternoon. Running Natty KUbuntu in a VM. Installed FreeNX, and am getting the infamous black-screen-after-logo-then-disconnect issue. I can successfully launch a custom xterm session, so it's not firewall. Ideas?
[19:43] <Arodnap> ola
[19:43] <theseum> coz_ would i have been better off doing a traditional install?
[19:43] <pat201> im dual booting ubuntu and suse, im trying to get rid of suse so i deleted the partition in Gparted. now when the computer boots i still have to option to boot to suse, how do i get rid of it?
[19:43] <Arodnap> tem gente do brasil ?
[19:43] <albertAnton> can someone check to see if 23 , 80 are open on 2.0.171.145 ?
[19:43] <Arodnap> BRAIL?
[19:43] <coz_> theseum,  absolutely ,, I am not that sure a wubi install is nearly as reliable as a clean install onto a separate patition
[19:43] <IdleOne> !br | Arodnap
[19:43] <coz_> theseum,   are you running windows xp?
[19:43] <Arodnap> oi
[19:44] <theseum> coz_ window 7
[19:44] <Arodnap> yes
[19:44] <Arodnap> i am brasil
[19:44] <Arodnap> are you from?
[19:44] <Arodnap> help
[19:44] <Arodnap> help
[19:44] <Arodnap> tem alguem do brasil
[19:45] <Arodnap> ?
[19:45] <coz_> theseum, ok  you may want to attemtp the clean install and use the partition manager in the ubuntu live cd  to partiion the drive,,, it is a slider you move back and forth to adjust,,"visually"  the amount of space you want to allocate to ubuntu install
[19:45] <FloodBot1> Arodnap: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <Arodnap> ?
[19:45] <IdleOne> Arodnap: faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspa
[19:45] <Arodnap> e comigo
[19:45] <Arodnap> ?
[19:45] <westz> !flood
[19:45] <Arodnap> -z #ubuntu
[19:46] <theseum> coz_ i would rather not have to reinstall right now if i can avoid it
[19:46] <Arodnap> ?
[19:46] <theseum> coz_ i also want to learn about how these things work
[19:46] <coz_> theseum,  ah ok...mm  then I am puzzled with this,, apparenlty the gtk stuff is a little wonky in the wubi install for you,,,
[19:46] <westz> !ping
[19:47] <coz_> theseum,  however,, the system apparenlty , otherwise,, is running well,, so if you want to learn "linux"  then you are set although  it doesnt look good
[19:47] <guntbert> !askthebot > westz
[19:47] <coz_> theseum,  also , dual booting,, with clean install isnt that difficult to do
[19:48] <coz_> theseum,  I understand your reluctance,,
[19:49] <theseum> coz_ so the problem is definitely in gtk ?
[19:49] <westz> guntbert, so what, they dont like me !ping'ing ubottu? i use it to make sure my connection's working
[19:49] <coz_> theseum,  the problem is in the wubi install with gtk yes,, most likely,,
[19:49] <coz_> theseum,  I am still searching for a solution so hold on
[19:49] <theseum> coz_ thx
[19:50] <guntbert> westz: please avoid anything that brings unnecessarily more text into this channel, you should be able to let your client tell you if the connection is working
[19:52] <Electron> My Wi-Fi internet connection connects great.  After my screensaver comes on and then goes into sleep mode after non-use for a little while, when I press a key to turn it back on I cannot get my wi-fi to reconnect without restarting 11.04 ubuntu, what could be my problem?
[19:52] <coz_> theseum,  I am finding nothing on this,, so to be fair,, I am going to let someone else take over on this issue,, I am puzzled,, ask the question again and hopefully someone may have more experience with wubi than I do ,,, sorry guy
[19:53] <theseum> coz_ ok thanks
[19:55] <xubu> COM'È CANALE ITALIANO??????
[19:56] <coz_> !it
[19:56] <xubu> tenks
[19:56] <nothingspecial> Electron: Is your wireless driver/module iwlagn?
[19:57] <Electron> nothingspecial,  I don't know.
[19:58] <ijkm> http://tinyurl.com/65yydz5
[19:58] <nothingspecial> Electron: Try lsmod | grep iwlagn does anything come up
[19:58] <IdleOne> !ot | ijkm
[19:58] <guntbert> ijkm: don't paste random urls here
[19:58] <Electron> nothingspecial, nothing came up.
[20:00] <nothingspecial> Electron: Then I don't know, post the wireless card you do have, but I got to go for now.
[20:00] <Electron> nothingspecial, ok
[20:01] <ilya_> Hi all. Does anyone know the default encryption algorithm Linux uses for zip -e?
[20:01] <theseum> i am having trouble with gnome; the top menu bar is the wrong color, the icons are wrong, and also, the terminal window has a white background (instead of semi-transparent).  this happens several seconds after i log in and doesn't go away unless i restart, at which point it just happens again as likely as not.
[20:01] <guntbert> ilya_: I suggest you read man zip...
[20:02] <Ziber> In 10.04, is it standard not to be able to ping from a non-root account?
[20:03] <guntbert> Ziber: not at all (root is disabled anyway)
[20:04] <TehAndrewRyan> Can I put things from a CD/DVD into a folder in Ubuntu? (if it's like a game or such, can't run it from the CD/DVD for some reason)
[20:04] <xenyz> hey can someone running ubuntu let me know if DejaVu Sans or Bitstream Vera Sans fonts are installed (by default)?
[20:04] <geirha> ilya_: The one specified in the zip spec. An insecure one.
[20:04] <Ziber> guntbert: I dont remember the exact error, but permissions are fine on the bin executable.
[20:05] <Ziber> guntbert: Something about "operation not permitted", I think.
[20:05] <guntbert> Ziber: that sound like a firewall issue
[20:05] <guntbert> *sounds
[20:05] <mahir256> xenyz: dejavu comes with ubuntu by default. not running ubuntu, though
[20:05] <Ziber> guntbert: Hm, interesting. Hadnt thought about that earlier.
[20:06] <kingofswords> hi, im using mobile fone as a modem but some web sites arent loading in ubunutu.....other than using opendns does anyone have any ideas how to sort this out?
[20:06] <guntbert> Ziber: that error message is typical - had it several times :)
[20:06] <xenyz> mahir256: Right on thanks. Trying to make a web site look nice cross-OS
[20:06] <szal> kingofswords: get a decent 'net connection
[20:06] <Ziber> guntbert: Got an iptables solution, then?
[20:07] <theGeeko61> @kingofswords, I also use a mobile modem...
[20:07] <szal> kingofswords: I'm pretty sure that's not a *buntu problem
[20:07] <theGeeko61> and I had to change from OpenDNS
[20:07] <drij> this is perhaps a strange request? is there a way to have an existing IP webcam appear as /dev/video0? like, instead of a usb webcam driver an "ip webcam driver"
[20:07] <kingofswords> szal, it is pretty decent
[20:07] <theGeeko61> to use Google Free DNS
[20:07] <theGeeko61> It's not a problem with Ubuntu, per se... I had similar problem with windoze...
[20:07] <kingofswords> szal, well i dont have problem in windoze
[20:07] <guntbert> Ziber: allow (some) ICMP, or for a test disable the firewall entirely
[20:07] <szal> kingofswords: w/ the miserable ping times you demonstrated to us earlier today and the DNS issues I'm pretty sure it isn't decent
[20:08] <kingofswords> oh eh i guess
[20:08] <Ziber> guntbert: Thats what I'm going to suggest - its my friend who's having this issue.
[20:08] <Ziber> guntbert: Disabling it completely to test it out, that is.
[20:08] <guntbert> Ziber: good :)
[20:08] <kingofswords> theGeeko61, thx
[20:09] <geirha> Ziber: you're sure the ping binary has the setuid bit?
[20:09] <kingofswords> szal, why doesnt windows have a problem  with my ping time then?
[20:09]  * OoTLink gets out a gnome 3 binary and waves it around
[20:09] <OoTLink> I'm in yer computerz breaking yer installz
[20:09] <OoTLink> oh and Hi :)
[20:10] <mahir256> !ot | ootlink
[20:10] <OoTLink> fine :)
[20:10] <sgerbino> is anyone familiar with a way to guarantee a USB externals mount point on ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[20:10] <OoTLink> although I'll probably be back later ;)
[20:10] <dtcrshr> hello, My new hp probook 6455 just arrived, with windows 7. Most tools I use is under ubuntu, and now ill install it with dual boot on windows 7. HP lets 3 partitions, one main one, one with 15gb, called hp tools, and another with 2gb in the end of the disk. will I be able to install ubuntu on this ? if i mess with hp partitions will I break my warranty? did anyone installed something similar, with hp notebooks?
[20:11] <sgerbino> dtcrshr: the little partitions may be an hp recovery thingamajigger.. if you overwrite it you may lose that
[20:12] <theGeeko61> I've been exploring Ubuntu for the past 6 weeks or so... I'm not a linux guru... I'm looking for a practical guide which clearly details all the steps booting Ubuntu... all the way to the GDM.  I've searched and searched... but haven't found this yet... can anyone help, please?
[20:12] <th0r> theGeeko61: check the linux documentation project tldp.org
[20:12] <dtcrshr> sgerbino, ill try to shrink the win 7 partition
[20:13] <sgerbino> yea thats what I would do
[20:13] <Polah> How are system loads calculated? What are the measurements actually of?
[20:13] <dtcrshr> im on the live boot right now, ill see if it lets me change its size
[20:14] <stercor> I've upgraded from Ubuntu 10.11 to 11.04.  The Samtron 75E monitor reports "Sync.  Out of Range" during the boot process.  It happens after the "F12 Boot Menu" prompt.  If I boot with the RAM stick, it boots OK.  xorg.conf has 3 lines in it.  I've tried several xorg.conf files, including the one from the RAM stick with no success.  I'm open to new ideas, approaches.
[20:14] <kiko__> Having a "severe" problem with my xfi soundblaster. As soon as I use more than 1 audio source, sound starts to be extremly distorted. I tried many settings, but nothing worked. Anyone got any idea? Or some hint (more than "ask google", what I did ;))?
[20:14] <theGeeko61> @th0r, yes... I have TLDP outlines XDM  (not GDM)... and with Ubuntu's "special" startup... it's quite different from any standards that I can find...
[20:14] <BluesKaj> dtcrshr, are you having probs booting your HDD install or ?
[20:14] <dtcrshr> it will take forever to resize it
[20:15] <dtcrshr> BluesKaj, to be honest i just took the notebook out of the box
[20:15] <kiko__> Minecraft & Youtube -> distortion (not necessarily immediately); video chat and mplayer (console) --> distortion
[20:15] <dtcrshr> didnt bother to boot the windows, first thing was to plug in my usb with ubuntu boot
[20:15] <vlt> Polah: I think, it's the avg number of processes waiting to be finished or something like that.
[20:15] <dtcrshr> ill let win7 to my wife to mess
[20:16] <toehio> i upgraded form 8.1 to 10.04, and after that lm-sensors hasn't detected the hardware it used to. What's causing this?
[20:16] <dtcrshr> holy crap, the partition resized to what i needed (set 60gb to win)
[20:16] <szal> kiko__: X-Fi and Linux = cr*p, I don't think that has changed much
[20:16] <dtcrshr> but the avaiable space is now inutilizable
[20:16] <dtcrshr> i cant create new partitions
[20:16] <edbian> toehio: Did you run lm-sensors detect   ?
[20:16] <toehio> edbian: yes
[20:16] <edbian> toehio: Then IDK
[20:16] <BluesKaj> dtcrshr, unallocated ?
[20:16] <dtcrshr> it has 5 partitions now, sda1 ntfs 315mb
[20:16] <kiko__> @szal: Do you think removing the card and using the onboard sound would help? This in fact sucks big time as it is ;)
[20:17] <dtcrshr> sda2 (that i resided) with 60gb ntfs
[20:17] <dtcrshr> a big free space, 241gb
[20:17] <toehio> edbian: thank you. Do you know how I could further troubleshoot this problem?
[20:17] <Benkinooby> !ppa-purge
[20:17] <dtcrshr> and in the end sda3 and sda4, sda3 is ntfs with 16gb
[20:17] <dtcrshr> and sda4 has 2gb fat32
[20:17] <edbian> toehio: This channel.  forums.ubuntu.com
[20:17] <szal> kiko__: no need to remove it, you can use the on-board sound system nevertheless
[20:17] <dtcrshr> BluesKaj, yes, free space
[20:17] <dtcrshr> in the partition windows it says "inutilizable
[20:18] <dtcrshr> the only option I have is to revert
[20:18] <Polah> vlt: I've just been searching around and that seems close. "The average number of processes in the run queue calculates the Load Average over some period of time (1 minute, 5 minutes and 15 minutes). For instance if one program was able to run/running for 30s, then the 1st LA would be approx “0.5″. If 5 processes were able to run in the last 1 minute then your load average is 5."
[20:18] <szal> dtcrshr: too many primary partitions, make an extended partition in the free space
[20:19] <BluesKaj> do you intend to dual boot or justrun ubuntu, dtcrshr /
[20:19] <dtcrshr> i cant create any partition
[20:19] <kiko__> @szal: Well, have to get to my bios at last, disabled the onboard sound in order to prevent problems ;)
[20:19] <dtcrshr> i need dual boot
[20:19] <dtcrshr> some apps from my wife college only run in windows
[20:19] <szal> dtcrshr: ah right..  you can only have 4 primary partitions on a drive, and an extended partition as a container is already a primary partition
[20:20] <dtcrshr> hp just screwed me
[20:20] <dtcrshr> and my windows partition is now 60gb only
[20:20] <dtcrshr> lol
[20:20] <dtcrshr> dunno if i can "move" them arround
[20:20] <dtcrshr> or put in another extended container
[20:20] <szal> don't think that'll work
[20:21] <dtcrshr> ill close the installation and run gparted, lets see
[20:21] <BluesKaj> but you can still install ubuntu there , in the free space if you use gparted to reformat to ext4 , dtcrshr
[20:21] <Polah> dtcrshr: You could back up your data elsewhere and redo all the partitions (and reinstall the systems). Y
[20:21] <vlt> Polah: The second part doesn't sound correct. I think it's not the more processes were able to run the higher the load value is ... hmmm
[20:22] <szal> the only thing you could do is back up e.g. the HP Tools partition, make an extended container, put the HP Tools in there & install *buntu in the remaining free space
[20:22] <Polah> dtcrshr, or you could take images of your systems, store them elsewhere then redo the partitions and replace the images.
[20:22] <dtcrshr> on gparted when i choose to create a new one on the free unallocated space it claims that i need to create a new container, no more than 4 partitions
[20:22] <szal> BluesKaj: does ext4 override the specification that says you can only have 4 partitions on a drive (unless you use an extended container that can contain another 255)?
[20:22] <kiko__> @szal: I'll give it a try, thanks!
[20:23] <vlt> szal: Not related at all I think.
[20:23] <edbian> dtcrshr: You can only have 4 primary partition on a hdd
[20:23] <Ziber> LVs however... :)
[20:24] <BluesKaj> szal, not sure ..I'v always had access to windows corporate OSsso reformatting/resizig has never been a problem
[20:24] <brewster> did they fix the nvidia problem with unity yet?
[20:24] <vlt> szal: A partition table defines (up to 4 primary) block devices. A file system like ext4 resides on such a block device.
[20:24] <dtcrshr> well, ill create a folder in the windoes partition, and copy the hptools partition content to it
[20:24] <brewster> if i have too many maximized windows they become blank
[20:24] <szal> vlt: that's what I was trying to point out to BluesKaj
[20:24] <dtcrshr> ill purge this partiton and try to remap the drive
[20:24] <dtcrshr> its only 400mb of data
[20:25] <edbian> dtcrshr: You could do that, and delete a partition.  Or you can use an extended partition that lets you cheat and have more than 4
[20:25] <Benkinooby> hi, i followed the link given by the bot for ppa-purge http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html but looking at the link for the download, it seems to be for karmik. so i decided to go to https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa but i can not find the "+file" subdirectory nor any hint for the ppa-purge. googgling for ppa-purge lucid i only get sites i never heard of. can someone point me out where to get
[20:25] <Benkinooby>  the deb of ppa-purge for lucid
[20:25] <Polah> szal: I think the 4 primary partition drive limitation is due to drives using MBRs.
[20:25] <edbian> dtcrshr: An extended partition holds other partitions.  Any partition inside the extended partition does not count against your 4
[20:25] <dtcrshr> does ubuntu boots on an extended partition?
[20:25] <edbian> dtcrshr: But your way is probably simpler and faster
[20:25] <Benkinooby> szal, Polah is correct
[20:25] <edbian> dtcrshr: It will
[20:25] <szal> edbian: that won't work in the existing setup, as the extended partition is a primary partition itself
[20:25] <dtcrshr> Or if i create an extended partition, create this two again, put theyr content back
[20:25] <Polah> dtrcrshr: Yes. Only Windows requires itself to be installed on a primary partition
[20:25] <dtcrshr> maybe that will work
[20:26] <edbian> szal: Does he already have 4?  I thought it was warning him like 'this will be your 4th'
[20:26] <BluesKaj> dtcrshr, does windows actually see ext as a partition
[20:26] <Polah> Benkinooby: Would you happen to know the alternative method that allows more than four primary partitions? I knew it once but I can't remember the name of it.
[20:26] <dtcrshr> im bothered if windows 7 uses some of this partitions as bootloaders
[20:27] <vlt> dtcrshr: Ubuntu (Linux) will boot from anything. The limit is your BIOS that must be able to run the boot loader off of something.
[20:27] <edbian> dtcrshr: what?
[20:27] <dtcrshr> but if i install ubuntu over grub maybe correct this
[20:27] <dtcrshr> theres a tiny partition in the beggining, with 300mb
[20:27] <szal> edbian: he has the Win7 boot partition, the Win7 system partition, a HP partition, and a restore partition, that makes 4
[20:27] <dtcrshr> with bootmgr, and a boot partition
[20:27] <edbian> szal: ouch
[20:27] <Benkinooby> Polah, there are only 4 primary partition, but you can use exptended partition, that allow logical partition within. i think the number of logical partition you can use is very high
[20:28] <dtcrshr> edbian, ill try to not mess with this first two
[20:28] <edbian> dtcrshr: good idea
[20:28] <szal> dtcrshr: I'd rather not mess w/ the restore partition either, so the only one left to mess with is the HP Tools partition
[20:28] <Benkinooby> Polah, the point is, that the MBR is limited to 512 bytes, so the partition table has a limited size, hence only for primary partition. i never heard of more than 4 PRIMARY partitions on one hard disk.
[20:28] <BluesKaj> yeah, w7 mbr  and reovery partition are usually first
[20:28] <Polah> Benkinooby: I know you can use more than four primary partitions, but you said I was correct about MBR being the reason behind the four primary limit. I wanted to know the name of the alternative method that functions the same as the MBR but uses a different method and allows something like 256 primary partitions
[20:29] <vlt> Polah: An extended partition is a pointer from one of the primary partitions to another partition table. These tables can be chained to infinity ;-)
[20:29] <dtcrshr> hmmm i cant mout the sda3, its the hp recovery partition
[20:29] <Benkinooby> Polah, never heard of this alternative...
[20:30] <Polah> Benkinooby: I know it exists, I recall someone telling me about it and giving me some links. I'll point you to it if I find it.
[20:30] <Benkinooby> Polah, that would be nice
[20:31] <Polah> Benkinooby: I don't think it's very widely used though
[20:32] <vlt> Polah is propably looking for "GPT"
[20:32] <Polah> vlt: Ah that is it! Thanks!
[20:33] <Benkinooby> Polah, that does not surprise me. it is a very experimentas non-standard setup.. you even could not recover it with usual tools. i really doubt that it is possible to have more than 4 primary partitions, but i am eager to learn. googleing for it didn't find me anything that supports your statement
[20:33] <Benkinooby> Polah, i saw the statement with GPT ... will read it
[20:34] <archet454> what would be the simplest way to access windows samba shares from a remote location?
[20:35] <Benkinooby> archet454, with ubuntu?
[20:35] <archet454> the windows equivalent of a vpn and smb shares ip addresses being forwarded, i'm new to linux and not sure where to start
[20:35] <archet454> Benkinooby, yes i have lucid 32 bit
[20:35] <vlt> archet454: In KDE you could type smb://server/share to your file browser's address. Don't know if there's an equivalent in Gnome.
[20:35] <archet454> vlt, doesnt this require a vpn to be setup on the remote network?
[20:35] <Benkinooby> vlt, archet454 nautilus, the file broswer of gone, can use smb too
[20:36] <faz_> archet454, smbclient?
[20:36] <faz_> if im understanding you correctly, that's all you would need. it acts like ftp.
[20:36] <Benkinooby> hi, i followed the link given by the bot for ppa-purge http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html but looking at the link for the download, it seems to be for karmik. so i decided to go to https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa but i can not find the "+file" subdirectory nor any hint for the ppa-purge. googgling for ppa-purge lucid i only get sites i never heard of. can someone point me out where to get
[20:36] <Benkinooby>  the deb of ppa-purge for lucid
[20:36] <vlt> archet454: An DE independent way is to mount it: mount -t cifs -o ip=192.168.0.199,user=user,password=xyz,iocharset=utf8  //server/share  /mnt/samba
[20:36] <archet454> faz_, 3.4.7
[20:36] <archet454> would i possibly need to foward smb ports via ssh and accomplish it this way?
[20:37] <vlt> archet454: These are two completely different things.
[20:37] <Polah> Benkinooby: Have you tried just doing sudo apt-get install ppa-purge?
[20:37] <archet454> vlt, this requires me to be on the network locally right?
[20:37] <vlt> archet454: Do you want to know how to connect to a windows file server or how to connect two networks (via VPN, for example)?
[20:38] <Polah> archet454: You'd need to edit the IP, user and pass as necessary to suit your environment
[20:38] <archet454> i've tried almost every guide i could find in the ubuntu forums and could never seem to get the correct forwardding settings
[20:38] <Polah> Benkinooby: It's in the repos for 11.04, I'm sure it's there for older versions too
[20:38] <dide> ola
[20:38] <Benkinooby> Polah, i use lucid, and ppa-purge is not available
[20:39] <dide> cè qualkuno?
[20:39] <Benkinooby> Polah, lucid is 10.04
[20:39] <Benkinooby> :(
[20:39] <vlt> !it | dide
[20:39] <IdleOne> !it | dide
[20:39] <archet454> in windows after setting up an incoming connectin, i could access the 192.168 network with this, i'm trying to replicate simply that on ubuntu
[20:39] <cuqaa> hey, I installed an all new ubuntu server with lamp
[20:40] <Benkinooby> archet454, so for now, you want a vpn connection to your network? id if you got that, you want to access the shared folders?
[20:40] <cuqaa> now I try to get everything running but .htaccess does not seem to work
[20:40] <cuqaa> what can I do wrong there?
[20:40] <archet454> Benkinooby, exactly
[20:40] <zakwilson> When I open sound preferences, I can set the volume above 100%. Is there a way to get the same range within the panel applet?
[20:40] <Benkinooby> archet454, just to get things straigt: you use ubuntu and want to vpn to a windows network and access files on a windows computer?
[20:40] <red> enable override to all, cuqaa
[20:40] <archet454> i have access via ssh, but i would like smb for other reasons that ssh is not made for
[20:41] <orchata1> Hi guys I have some problems with wireless card.  It does not work and does not show up in "Network manager".  When I open the "Hardware Drivers" it finds it but says "This driver is activated but not currently in use"
[20:41] <red> cuqaa: in vhost
[20:41] <archet454> Benkinooby, correct
[20:42] <red> if u neef to join a windows domain, check likewise open
[20:42] <girderdaveguy> Trying to use Florence virtual keyboard on a netbook loaded with ubuntu 11.04 - keyboard fills screen, I can't get it to unmaximize! Please help!
[20:42] <archet454> i've read almost every guide i could find for setting up a "simple" vpn with ubuntu but none would let me access the "remote network"
[20:42] <Benkinooby> maybe this one helps http://seanism.com/blog/?p=3
[20:42] <cuqaa> override to all? ,that is standard?
[20:42] <cuqaa> but thx :)
[20:42] <vlt> archet454: I'd suggest setting up a VPN first. SMB seems to need more than one port.
[20:42] <red> if u want .htaccess overriding to work
[20:43] <Benkinooby> archet454, btw, did you install the package needed for vpn?
[20:43] <red> check apache docs if u dont want it on all
[20:43] <Benkinooby> archet454, you can check that by opening a terminal and type 'vpnc -h'
[20:43] <red> i think there are stricter modes, cant recall
[20:43] <cuqaa> ah thx. works now :)
[20:43] <red> ok
[20:44] <archet454> Benkinooby, not installed, i recently reinstalled the OS and was right at that point :)
[20:44] <archet454> Benkinooby, "sudo apt-get install vpnc"?
[20:44] <Benkinooby> archet454, yes
[20:45] <archet454> Benkinooby, i have SMB shares on the lucid host remote computer, but have vnc and ssh access
[20:45] <Benkinooby> archet454, personally, i prefere aptitude over apt-get (it is more intelligent) but feel free what ever you liek to use
[20:45] <archet454> Benkinooby, yes i need to read more up about that, just learned there was another option recently and it intrigues me
[20:46] <archet454> Benkinooby, for the lucid host computer does it need the same package or a host specific one?
[20:46] <Benkinooby> archet454, there are a lot of websites and blog advocating aptitude over apt-get --- and i do too
[20:47] <Benkinooby> archet454, i thought your vpn server is a windows computer?
[20:48] <archet454> Benkinooby, 2 on the network win7/xp are, but there's a 3rd with lucid running smb server
[20:49] <Benkinooby> archet454, ah ok. so you want to connect from a ubuntu 10.04 client to a network with 2 windows computer and a ubuntu server
[20:49] <Benkinooby> archet454, what version is the server
[20:49] <astraljava> orchata1: Have you checked this page already? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[20:49] <almostroot> When doing a kickstart configuration, the only options for default display manager are KDE and GNOME. If there an undocumented option for the Xubuntu desktop?
[20:49] <Benkinooby> archet454, but yes, there is a vpn package for the server side
[20:49] <orchata1> astraljava: no, not yet
[20:50] <archet454> I should have made that more correct, the lucid machine isnt actually a sever OS, its 10.04.2 LTS
[20:50] <astraljava> orchata1: It will help you narrow down the cause for the problem, and if you still don't know the solution, then ask here, and give the details.
[20:51] <archet454> Benkinooby, but the 10.04.2 LTS machine is running smb shares for media to be streamed to XBMC
[20:51] <Benkinooby> archet454, ok
[20:52] <archet454> Benkinooby, If i can simply access the remote IP network (192.168 - lucid/xp/win7) I can have my remote media setup like with windows simple vpn
[20:52] <Polah> Benkinooby: Not sure if you're still looking but I found ppa-purge in the lucid repos
[20:52] <Benkinooby> archet454, to be honest i never set up a server. i thought you allready have a working vpn server
[20:52] <almostroot> Alternately, anyone have experience with preseeding?
[20:52] <Benkinooby> Polah, yes, i am still looking for it
[20:52] <Polah> Benkinooby: I changed all my sources to lucid and found it using apt-cache search
[20:53] <archet454> Benkinooby, I was able to connect successfully to vpn server, but i always got timeouts when even just pinging the 192.168 range network
[20:53] <archet454> vpn host network, which is what made me think it was just a forwarding setting wrong, or "Default gateway" possibly?
[20:54] <Benkinooby> archet454, hm, this problem is off my limits. i never set up or trouble shooted a vpn server. i am sorry, but i can not help you further. but out of interest. you can vpn connect to this ubunut server with a windows client without problem?
[20:54] <mnewton> Hi i have a bash question. I want to convert a folder of gif to tif. Here is the script i made - but its not working. Any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/639728/
[20:55] <archet454> Benkinooby, correct, thanks anyway m8 :)
[20:55] <Benkinooby> archet454, so, in that case it is funny that the windows computer for better with your ubuntu server than your ubuntu clinet
[20:56] <Benkinooby> archet454, i'd say that your ubuntu client is not well set up then
[20:56] <bailiff> during install, how long should i stare at red/white dots before I figure out that my older PC can't handle Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[20:57] <a_failure> bailiff: put in lubuntu-desktop
[20:57] <bailiff> thanks a_failure
[20:57] <a_failure> np
[20:58] <anujwalia> Views on PhoneGap ? it sucks or its gonna work ?
[21:00] <Benkinooby> Polah, i can not find it at best will. do you have any additional repos activated?
[21:00] <Polah> Benkinooby: Do you have partners enabled?
[21:00] <girderdaveguy> Is there any way to unmaximize an application? There is no option in the title bar.
[21:01] <a_failure> girderdaveguy: alt+f5, alt+space to get a menu for all that
[21:01] <Polah> girderdaveguy, alt+F10
[21:01] <Benkinooby> Polah, no, will activate it. i didn't see any hint that it could be there
[21:01] <a_failure> Polah: he wants to unmaximize not maximize
[21:02] <a_failure> girderdaveguy: the term is restore not unmaximize
[21:02] <Benkinooby> girderdaveguy, alt+f10 again
[21:02] <Benkinooby> girderdaveguy, or press the maximise button again
[21:02] <Polah> a_failure: Oh yes, my bad. There's Alt+F8 to resize it
[21:03] <dresden_> Greetings and salutations!  I am a linux newb.  I purchased an external hd and I like to share it from my ubuntu box to all of my windows pc.  I tried following https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html  but my Windows7 machine is not able to connect to so i have purchaged the samba and samba-common so i was hoping someone could give me a hand.
[21:03] <mnewton> I want to convert a folder of gifs to tif. Here is the script i made - but its not working. Any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/639728/ It gives me error at line 4
[21:04] <Benkinooby> Polah, i get this error message W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 25863649E3F2A519
[21:04] <a_failure> dresden_: are your ports open
[21:04] <a_failure> dresden_: on your router
[21:04] <dresden_> well i can connect to the server, and i can see the folder i am sharing when i try to open the folder it says windows is unable to open it.
[21:05] <a_failure> Benkinooby: try gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv THATNUMBER
[21:05] <a_failure> Benkinooby: then do gpg --export -armor THATNUMBER | sudo apt-key add -
[21:05] <cuqaa> damn. another question regarding php and .htaccess
[21:06] <Polah> cuqaa: Have you tried asking in #php and #apache?
[21:06] <a_failure> Benkinooby: sorry armor is supposed to have two --, i.e. --armor
[21:06] <Polah> Well, #httpd actually
[21:06] <girderdaveguy> I'm trying to make Florence (virtual keyboard) so that you can see the the screen and the keyboard. If I make it resizable, it doesn't cover the whole screen, but it's still too big. If I check the button for resizable, it maximizes the keyboard, and I can't seem to change it.
[21:07] <Benkinooby> a_failure, and then sudo aptitude update?
[21:07] <a_failure> Benkinooby: if you like slow aptitude--i'm a apt-get guy
[21:07] <New2> hey guys. i would like to know how can i open EXT partition from Windows OS?
[21:08] <Benkinooby> your suggestions seem to have worked http://pastebin.com/WXh6agFz updateing now... will report back
[21:09] <Polah> New2: The only version of ext that is compatible with Windows is ext3. I believe you need specific programs to access them still though.
[21:09] <girderdaveguy> Hey, I may have solved it myself! Uncheck resizable, make the keyboard smaller, and choose move!
[21:09] <New2> Polah well i have it EXT3 and i have WIN 7. do u know any software that can handle it?
[21:09] <Benkinooby> a_failure, the update did work well (usually i get a error message, now it works) but installing the packages to be updated does not work http://pastebin.com/UHSmrRRx
[21:10] <astraljava> mnewton: I forget, but shouldn't there be like a "ls *gif" on the for clause? I'm not sure it understands what you're trying to say with plain *gif.
[21:10] <bailiff> a_failure, i tried 10.04 before lubuntu and the thing is installing, my Athlon + 750meg ram might work
[21:10] <a_failure> Benkinooby: can you describe the problem--i'm in shell and have no browser at the moment
[21:11] <Benkinooby> a_failure, let's go to a private channel, where i can paste the output
[21:11] <New2> and also i have "Ext2Mgr.exe" on my laptop
[21:11] <New2> Pola ^
[21:11] <a_failure> Benkinooby: sure /msg a_failure
[21:11] <New2> Polah ^
[21:11] <astraljava> mnewton: Ahh.. sorry, seems it's not necessary. What is the error message for line 4?
[21:12] <Benkinooby> Hit http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release.gpg
[21:12] <Benkinooby> Hit http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch lucid Release.gpg
[21:12] <Benkinooby> Ign http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch/isg.ee-ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US
[21:12] <Benkinooby> Hit http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release.gpg
[21:12] <Benkinooby> Ign http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Translation-en_US
[21:12] <FloodBot1> Benkinooby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:12] <Benkinooby> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg
[21:12] <Polah> New2: Don't know any specifics of it: http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=Using+ext3+on+Windos+7&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=ab90aaaebdbbd579&biw=1279&bih=827
[21:13] <New2> Polah tnx
[21:13] <a_failure> bailiff: you could always install the base system and boot manager and package manager--leave out the install software portion of an install then install lubuntu-desktop or lxdm for a faster light weight but still very versitle set of tools and X
[21:13] <mnewton> astraljava: I changed the script a bit - now it looks like this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/639739/
[21:13] <Benkinooby> a_failure, the /msg thing didn't work
[21:14] <Benkinooby> a_failure, got muted for flooding
[21:14] <mnewton> astraljava: when i run it it echos lines of basename $img .gif
[21:14] <Benkinooby> a_failure, please join #wabbawabba so i can paste it for you
[21:15] <mnewton> astraljava: if i change it to singe quotes then it actually says the file name but it does not excequte any command
[21:15] <bailiff> excellent idea a_failure
[21:15] <sillykone> Hello, I have two major problems with my mouse/keyboard in Ubuntu.  (1) CTRL doesn't work (I see it in Blender) and (2) I can't simulate a middle click.  How do I fix this?
[21:16] <astraljava> mnewton: Yes, you gotta change the ' to `, they are backticks instead of what you have now.
[21:16] <astraljava> mnewton: Meaning: base=`basename $img .gif`
[21:16] <mnewton> wooo it worked!
[21:16] <mnewton> astraljava: thanks a lot!
[21:17] <ze-84> #ubuntu-pt
[21:17] <astraljava> mnewton: No prob.
[21:20] <dresden_> Ok so I just purchased Samba and Samba-Common I followed the https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html   i just tried getting to it from my XP machine and it says "share is not accessible. you might not have permission to use the network resource" according to the document i should not need to password. Something to note is that it did not ask me for a username or password.
[21:20] <dresden_> erm purchased = purged
[21:21] <spyvsspy> hi, is there anyway to run an apt-get over HTTPS
[21:21] <spyvsspy> http is blocked for me, but I have 443 open
[21:21] <Polah> spyvsspy: The server at the other end would need an appropriate SSL certificate too, which I don't think the repos have.
[21:22] <spyvsspy> k
[21:22] <spyvsspy> kidn of what i figured
[21:25] <almoxarife> what channel deals with nick specifics?
[21:27] <Mac-Rumours> anybody know of a PCI wifi card that works out of the box with Ubuntu 11.4 (I've just spent 4 hours trying to get an Edimax EW 7711IN to work)
[21:27] <venik212> can anyone tell me why commands that work just fine from the terminal fail when I put them in a bash file and run it?
[21:30] <bailiff> venik212 are you sure that your terminal vs your bash file have the same paths and environment variables
[21:30] <Dolbys> hi.. how can i restard http ?
[21:30] <luftikuss> venik212: There may be several reasons. One may be that your bash file is not made executable.
[21:30] <Dolbys> hi.. how can i restard httpd apache webserver ?
[21:31] <StevenR> Dolbys: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[21:31] <hussein> hi my empathy doesnt log me into msn ... can anyone help ?
[21:31] <venik212> I clicked on the "allow executing file as a program"
[21:31] <Baribal> Hi. I have two monitors. Now how do I give them different desktop backgrounds?
[21:31] <StevenR> hussein: up to date with updates?
[21:31] <venik212> bailiff-- I am not sure how to check for that
[21:31] <hussein> yea i have done all the updates
[21:32] <StevenR> hussein: any errors? can you reach the messenger server with ping?
[21:32] <dresden_> Any chance of anyone having a few to try to help me out with this samba problem? I will love you guys for a long time.
[21:32] <hussein> the empathy accure ( error in connection) although um talking in here and connecting to FB
[21:32] <bailiff> Try making a simple bash script that just does something like: echo hello
[21:32] <bailiff> See if that works
[21:33] <bailiff> or even something like: touch /tmp/my_last_script_runtime
[21:33] <bailiff> then ls -al /tmp my_last_script_runtime
[21:33] <bailiff> to check the timestamp on the file
[21:34] <Mac-Rumours> anybody using a trouble free wireless PCI ?
[21:34] <hussein> Steven.. :)
[21:34] <Dolbys> ok.. but /etc/init.d/apache2 restart but ini.d wich is?
[21:34] <StevenR> Dolbys: huh?
[21:35] <StevenR> hussein: can you contact the messenger server with ping?
[21:35] <Dolbys> StevenR: root@server ~]# /etc/httpd/apache2 restart
[21:35] <Dolbys> -bash: /etc/httpd/apache2: No such file or direct
[21:35] <venik212> luftikuss-- is clicking on the Allow executing as a program the same as making it executable with chmod?
[21:35] <OoTLink> I'm baaack
[21:35] <StevenR> Dolbys: did you read what I wrote?
[21:36] <Dolbys> you wrote /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[21:36] <OoTLink> and now I have a question for you :)
[21:36] <monsterwiz> hellop
[21:36] <hussein> Steven : i really don knw how to ping
[21:36] <StevenR> Dolbys: yes, do you see what you did differently?
[21:36] <monsterwiz> I have a problem in 11.04 and 10.04
[21:36] <monsterwiz> but not in 10.10
[21:37] <monsterwiz> Every now and then the screen will freeze then go to a zebra black and white stripes
[21:37] <OoTLink> I'm having an issue with my laptop where when I put it to sleep, it restarts when I wake it up
[21:37] <monsterwiz> :/
[21:37] <monsterwiz> but the freezes are random
[21:37] <StevenR> hussein: look at the advanced settings for your msn account, open a terminal and ping servername (get the servername from the advanced settings)
[21:37] <OoTLink> and it was suggseted to put acpi_sleep=nonvs in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file as an option
[21:37] <monsterwiz> It doesn't even have to be used
[21:37] <OoTLink> err.. suggested*
[21:37] <hussein> ok
[21:38] <OoTLink> I added these: acpi_sleep=nonvs resume=/dev/sda6 to grub_cmdline_linux_default
[21:38] <OoTLink> then ran sudo update-grub2 and that.. didnt change a thing
[21:38] <OoTLink> xD
[21:38] <monsterwiz> well maybe I just need to stick to 10.10 :(
[21:38] <OoTLink> sda6 is indeed where my linux install is
[21:38] <OoTLink> any ideas?
[21:38] <monsterwiz> :(
[21:39] <OoTLink> monster that's pretty freaky :(
[21:39] <monsterwiz> The screen will have white stripes flashing
[21:40] <theseum> i am having trouble with unity; the top menu bar is the wrong color, the icons are wrong, and also, the terminal window has a white background (instead of semi-transparent).  this happens several seconds after i log in and doesn't go away unless i restart, at which point it just happens again as likely as not.
[21:40] <monsterwiz> with a black backgrounmd
[21:40] <Baughn> So, the installer freezes right at the start, first time I press forward.
[21:41] <Baughn> Is there a log or something I can look at?
[21:41] <OoTLink> these: try loading the appearance prefs program?
[21:42] <venik212> why does Quassel fail to connect to freenode.net,  and the webchat connects immediately?
[21:42] <OoTLink> if you can't get the appearance tool straight off the bat, try logging out and when you log back in, choose ubuntu classic from the option drop'down' at the bottom middle of your screen
[21:42] <OoTLink> then open the appearance thing from the menu
[21:43] <OoTLink> (it's in system->preferences)
[21:46] <fergus> can i burn an ubuntu iso onto a dvd?
[21:46] <fergus> they only ever mention cds
[21:46] <Mac-Rumours> anyone know how i can add GPU drivers for intel HD3000 to xbmc live (ubuntu 10.04)
[21:46] <louis_> hi, how can change the first day of the week? 11.04
[21:46] <sudokill> fergus of course
[21:47] <fergus> ok but i have tried it and the dvd wont boot
[21:47] <fergus> i guess my boot order isnt right but it should be cd first be default right?
[21:47] <sudokill> fergus, yes
[21:47] <sudokill> or there sohuld be a button to press to choose something to boot from
[21:47] <sudokill> rather than messing with the boot order
[21:47] <tsimpson> most systems don't have the optical device first in the list by default
[21:47] <tsimpson> as it slightly delays boot time
[21:48] <Mac-Rumours> i think boot from optical can also be diasbled completely in BIOS
[21:48] <sudokill> it can
[21:48] <New2> Polah ?
[21:48] <sudokill> i only have the hdd in my boot list
[21:48] <sudokill> and use the f8 to choose devices to boot from
[21:48] <jeeves__> why does my server keep trying to use "::1..." (the local ipv6 address) and NOT 127.0.0.1?
[21:49] <louis_> someone knows how to change the first day of the week? there is no option for that...
[21:49] <Mac-Rumours> anbody know how to backport ppa for lucid?
[21:49] <venik212> why do some commands work fine in the terminal, but fail when I put them in a bash file?
[21:50] <fergus> sudokill: ok ill give it a try thanks
[21:50] <jeeves__> anyone on how to change this thing so it won't keep using the IPv6?
[21:50] <sudokill> you can disable ipv6 if you never use it with a boot line
[21:51] <tsimpson> jeeves__: if it's only a local connection, why does it matter?
[21:51] <jeeves__> tsimpson, there are scripts that are erroring out.  I can't get roundcube to connect, etc
[21:51] <bailiff> venik212 post the bash file on a website somewhere and give us the url to look at it
[21:52] <tsimpson> jeeves__: it should be configurable in the application, "localhost" returns both the IPv4 and IPv6 addresses, so specify 127.0.0.1 specifically. other than that, disable IPv6 totally
[21:52] <jeeves__> tsimpson, I would like to toally dissable IPv6
[21:52] <venik212> bailiff-- here it is: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3902878/backup.sh
[21:53] <louis_> i can't change the first day of the week... it's crazy :)
[21:53] <tsimpson> !ipv6 | jeeves__
[21:53] <joshlegs> question regarding upgrade from 10.04 .......
[21:53] <joshlegs> the update manager says there's a dkms update, but when it tries to download it, i get a popup box that says Please insert the disk labeled:
[21:54] <joshlegs> Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release i386 (20110427.1)
[21:54] <joshlegs> in drive /cdrom/
[21:54] <joshlegs> anybody know why that is?
[21:54] <bailiff> sec
[21:54] <tsimpson> joshlegs: you can "fix" that by removing the CD from your apt sources
[21:54] <joshlegs> how do i do that tsimpson ?
[21:55] <fabiobik> hello guys
[21:55] <bailiff> Try removing the "-l" after the sh and see if it works
[21:56] <tsimpson> joshlegs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu should tell you how
[21:56] <qin> venik212: Why sh and not bash, also rsync might be better, or find ~/stuff to backup -atime ... -exec cp ....
[21:56] <venik212> I only put that in because it did not work, and I read somewhere that it might help-- it did not
[21:56] <fabiobik> does anyone know how to run this huawei E173 on ubuntu lastest version?
[21:56] <bailiff> I know he keeps asking why a bash file doesn't work, yet he's calling sh instead
[21:56] <jeeves__> tsimpson, nm, beat the script into submission
[21:56] <joshlegs> thanks tsimpson
[21:58] <tsimpson> venik212: explaining exactly what you mean by "did not work" would help
[21:58] <venik212> qin-  your message was way too cryptic for me, but I thought I was using bash..  In Open With I chose Bash
[21:58] <venik212> nothing happened-- the files were not copied
[21:58] <fabiobik> does anyone know how to run this huawei E173 usb modem on ubuntu lastest version?
[21:59] <joshlegs> that totally worked tsimpson :) you rock bro thanks
[21:59] <coz_> fabiobik,   look here  maybe    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613373
[21:59] <joshlegs> now im off to upgrade :)
[22:00] <louis_> is someone able to change the first day of the week on ubuntu 11.04 clock?
[22:00] <bailiff> my version of cp doesn't have a u extension venik212 (I'm testing on freebsd though)
[22:00] <newbie01> I will erase my hardrive with sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/.... what is the location of my hard drive i.e. ...
[22:00] <newbie01> ?
[22:01] <coz_> louis_, hold on let me check
[22:01] <venik212> bailif-- I forgot now what the u did, but at the time it seemed necessary
[22:01] <louis_> thanks coz...
[22:01] <bailiff> I'm trying to help, but I think I have to wait until I get ubuntu installed -- I have hardware that doesnt want to cooperate. I'm migrating to a ubuntu desktop from freebsd as a server
[22:01] <coz_> louis_,   seems to work here are you left clicking the clock to get into settings?
[22:02] <venik212> -u, --update	copy only when the SOURCE file is newer than the destination file or when the destination file is missing
[22:02] <louis_> no i just left click and the settings
[22:02] <venik212> I used -u to get incremental archiving
[22:03] <bailiff> Well how did you make out with the trick of running a simple bash command to echo "hello" or to touch a file in /tmp to see the timestamp?
[22:03] <bailiff> this way we can rule out the problems with the rest of your script
[22:03] <bailiff> and look at why you can't run ANY scripts
[22:03] <louis_> i have opened the time and date settings but there is nothing about this...
[22:03] <newbie01> what is the command line to wipe my hard drive
[22:04] <coz_> louis_,   well you have to unlock the settings on the first tab to change the day and time
[22:04] <louis_> coz: done it
[22:04] <olivio> oi
[22:04] <coz_> louis_,   if the wrong day is showing then the "wrong date" is entered ...yes?
[22:04] <venik212> I can run scripts-- I have several that launch programs, and they all work, and their format is rather similar to what I have here
[22:04] <qin> How to ssh-copy-id on not standart port?
[22:04] <olivio> Brasil
[22:05] <dee27> i downloaded a software,where u find the souce code?
[22:05] <louis_> coz: the calendar begins with sunday but want monday. i can't see any option to change that
[22:05] <olivio>  #ubuntubrasil-orkut
[22:06] <tsimpson> qin: did you try user@host:port ?
[22:06] <qin> tsimpson: just about to...
[22:07] <bailiff> so when you run this script, how do you know it doesn't work -- do you get an error, or it just doesn't seem to perform the actions?
[22:07] <llutz> qin: ssh-copy-id "user@host -p xyz"
[22:07] <qin> tsimpson: Can't resolve...
[22:08] <astraljava> dee27: Could you tell us _how_ you downloaded it?
[22:08] <bnesbitt> #mapnik
[22:08] <coz_> louis_,   I believe this post deals with this problem   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=807281
[22:08] <tsimpson> qin: try just adding -p <port> to the end of the command
[22:08] <qin> llutz: Bingo
[22:08] <tsimpson> yeah, llutz wins... this time
[22:08] <llutz> :D
[22:09] <qin> Ok, what was zie password....
[22:09] <llutz> "secret"
[22:09] <louis_> coz: ok thanks i will check it...
[22:10] <Zacheous> I kinda need help if anyone here would be so kind
[22:10] <lighta> !ask | Zacheous
[22:10] <astraljava> !ask | Zacheous
[22:14] <Zacheous> Here's my question, My headphones are working fine, my microphone is not dead, because i can hear myself in my headphones, im using a turtle-beach earforce x11 headset that is plugged into 1 USB and both my front audio output and input jacks, I hear audio just fine but when i use an application that receives audio input nothing is received, so I cannot use skype or teamspeak or ventrilo successfully. I have tried to install a
[22:14] <Zacheous> different driver but im a noob with linux and failed to correctly do so. Can anyone help me get my problem resolved?
[22:14] <Zacheous> here let me get my soundcard model as well
[22:14] <Zacheous> one sec
[22:14] <duvel> Zacheous
[22:15] <duvel> you're from pittsburgh?
[22:15] <Mac-Rumours> i can't get wifi card to work – can anyone recommend a PCI or USB wifi card that actually WORKs with Ubuntu?
[22:15] <Zacheous> yup
[22:15] <duvel> cool
[22:15] <Zacheous> how did you know
[22:15] <duvel> cos im a pro
[22:15] <Zacheous> right...
[22:16] <RaNa> hey guys i need something help im all new to ssh i have linux system that i need to add a user to group but the only way i can access this system is by ssh now how do i give a user access over ssh to a group or add a user to a group i have that makes sense sorry about me english
[22:16] <peat88> www.google.com
[22:16] <peat88> :D
[22:17] <Zacheous> lol
[22:17] <peat88> kidding
[22:17] <FloodBot1> peat88: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <bailiff> Get to a shall RaNa and /usr/bin/useradd
[22:17] <bailiff> shall/shell
[22:17] <llutz> RaNa: sudo adduser <user> <group>
[22:17] <RaNa> thank you so much
[22:17] <bailiff> Or if they already have a userid, edit /etc/group
[22:18] <duvel> Zacheous
[22:18] <RaNa> ok think you both
[22:18] <duvel> how do you think i know?
[22:18] <Zacheous> yes?
[22:18] <Zacheous> well...
[22:18] <Zacheous> I don't know
[22:19] <duvel> well let me tell you
[22:19] <Zacheous> probable from a whois
[22:19] <duvel> cos im a fuckin PRO
[22:19] <duvel> yeah, you're right :D
[22:19] <bazhang> duvel, no cursing here
[22:19] <DriversBroken> Is it proper behavior when waking from hibernate for the display to be off?
[22:19] <Zacheous> So can anyone help me with my microphone issue then?
[22:19] <duvel> bazhang sorry dude, thought i was on a different network LOL
[22:19] <duvel> so so sorry.
[22:20] <a_failure> Mac-Rumours: do you have wireless-tools installed
[22:20] <venik212> I may have found the problem-- I need to mount the target drive b4 I can write to it.  Can I do that from the script? Just: mount 396-gb-drive does not seem to wrok
[22:20] <Mac-Rumours> a_failure: i think so. how can i check?
[22:21] <bailiff> You have to mount it to a precreated folder
[22:21] <a_failure> Mac-Rumours: give a iwconfig to your cli
[22:21] <bailiff> like mkdir /mymount then mount /dev/sda1/somedir /mymount
[22:21] <lighta> Zacheous, what sound system you're using atm ? pulseaudio ? OSS ? ALSA ?
[22:22] <bailiff> don't copy the /dev/sda you have to figure out what your driveis etc
[22:22] <DriversBroken> Also:  How do I stop ubuntu from trying to leech of everyone else's internet, and then pestering me with multiple "this network needs a passcode" modal dialogs?
[22:22] <Mac-Rumours> a_failure: wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn
[22:22] <louis_> coz: you are the man :) that is worked well
[22:22] <qin> DriversBroken: edit (remove) networks
[22:23] <orolin> Someone please help... mysql is constantly giving me access denied error
[22:23] <Star_Light> orolin
[22:23] <lighta> orolin, when ?
[22:24] <louis_> it's just annoying always go to terminal and edit text staff :)))
[22:24] <orolin> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[22:24] <orolin> gives error
[22:24] <orolin> mysql -u root
[22:24] <orolin> mysql -u root -p
[22:24] <orolin> all of these
[22:24] <Star_Light> ok
[22:24] <Star_Light> give the message
[22:25] <Star_Light> error message
[22:25] <lighta> I think he have a permission issue
[22:25] <monsterwiz> can I come here for programming advice?
[22:25] <monsterwiz> general n00b programming that is
[22:25] <qin> orolin: is: service mysql stop also gives err?
[22:25] <rww> monsterwiz: probably best to go to the channel for the programming language you're using
[22:25] <orolin> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[22:25] <callaghan> monsterwiz: which language?
[22:25] <monsterwiz> python
[22:26] <lighta> like mysql was launch as root and he's trying to turn off with user 1st issue, connection one seem he didn't specify user into he's db..
[22:26] <rww> monsterwiz: #python is good
[22:26] <Elj51> Does anyone know how to stop ubuntu classic from flickering. I can only use classic (no effects).
[22:26] <monsterwiz> thanks
[22:26] <monsterwiz> :D
[22:26] <monsterwiz> :P
[22:26] <rww> monsterwiz: though you'll need to register with nickserv to go there
[22:26] <orolin> qin: service mysql stop gives "stop: unknown instance"
[22:26] <jrolland-ubuntu> I accidentally dragged some text in TexMaker, and now the dock won't hide in Unity; can anyone help?
[22:26] <lighta> orolin, did you setup your database with another user as root ?
[22:26] <rww> !register > monsterwiz
[22:26] <rww> oh shut up ubottu
[22:26] <cb1609> is there a program that I can set to log all users' terminal or ssh sessions? i don't want to use script because I don't want the users to be able to modify the logs.
[22:27] <qin> orolin: How did you start mysql?
[22:27] <orolin> lighta no, i dont think so
[22:27] <chaddy> acct, cb1609
[22:27] <orolin> qin well, thats kind of the problem .. im unable to start mysql
[22:27] <louis_> jrolland: did you log out and back? or restart?
[22:28] <jrolland-ubuntu> There was a small blue triangle in the corner of the Ubuntu menu, until I futzed with ccsm
[22:28] <jrolland-ubuntu> I would prefer not to log out, as I have a ton of programs running
[22:29] <cb1609> chaddy will that log all commands the user runs?
[22:29] <chaddy> Description: The GNU Accounting utilities for process and login accounting
[22:29] <jrolland-ubuntu> Never mind, exiting out of TexMaker did it for me
[22:29] <a_failure> Mac-Rumours: sounds good, sudo iwconfig essid YourNetwork key s:YourPassword
[22:29] <chaddy> all processes, cb1609 and logins
[22:30] <intelcorei0proce> Can I talk to someone privately about some odd stuff with Ubuntu and VMware please?
[22:30] <louis_> jrolland: you can try this: unity --reset
[22:31] <louis_> ok I just read above...
[22:32] <cb1609> thanks chaddy, i will take a look
[22:32] <lighta> orolin, what do you have when you do ps -ax | grep mysql ?
[22:33] <Star_Light> bb
[22:34] <venik212> quit
[22:35] <orolin> "sudo mysqladmin -u root password secret" gives access denied
[22:35] <orolin> any ideas?
[22:42] <dmunoz> #rapid7
[22:45] <Snicers-Work_> Hey, how would I format my /etc/network/interfaces in ubuntu to allow the network line to be the domain address?
[22:45] <feydr> I typically run terminal full-screen and I had it setup at one point to where when I opened a new tab or had a js alert box show in a browser that wouldn't switch back to my shell -- but now it's doing that -- anyone rememberhow to fix this?
[22:45] <Snicers-Work_> v 10.10 and 11.04
[22:45] <Elj51> My panel is unreadable and everything flickers after I did the last update. Is there any way to fix this? Ubuntu Classic (no effects) is the only one the works. I'm running 11.04
[22:45] <callaghan> orolin: The only thing I found is: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/access-denied.html
[22:46] <callaghan> orolin: Maybe this helps :)
[22:50] <astraljava> Snicers-Work_: I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that. Since several releases now, NetworkManager actually takes care of networking, so you'd have to tweak that instead of that file.
[22:54] <goltoof> can I get a script to run sftp in nautilus?
[22:54] <goltoof> connect to server, does not give option
[22:56] <callaghan> just enter sftp://IP-Address in the nautlius location bar, this should do it
[22:56] <Ceno3x> latest nvidia proprietary driver, with compositing on or off. Screen tearing on fullscreen flash videos. Does anyone know of a fix?
[22:56] <rbranson> I've got a borked upstart script and it keeps respawning under old config, anyone know how to force init to either reload the config or quit respawning it? stop is not working
[22:57] <bazhang> Ceno3x, use html5? flash is bad
[22:57] <test34> bazhang, html5 is not always available
[22:57] <mentat> firefox 5 not supporting webgl?
[22:59] <wildbat> goltoof gvfs can mount sftp ~ you don't need script .
[23:01] <goltoof> wildbat:  howto?  i got no location bar, i do but it's not a place to enter a url
[23:01] <wildbat> goltoof : MENU : File-> Connect to Server
[23:01] <goltoof> wildbat: wildbat  that's what i'm saying, no place to put in sftp
[23:02] <wildbat> goltoof: pick SSH
[23:02] <goltoof> wildbat:  i don't have full ssh access, only sftp
[23:02] <astraljava> goltoof: Go | Location...
[23:03] <goltoof> astraljava:  thanks
[23:03] <astraljava> goltoof: No prob.
[23:03] <wildbat> goltoof: it should work ~ sftp is ssh's subsystem
[23:04] <goltoof> wildbat: understand that, but it's not connecting that way
[23:07] <Ceno3x> bazhang: using html5 isn't really a fix for screen tearing in flash videos now is it?
[23:08] <bazhang> Ceno3x, you seem to be cross posting this in #kubuntu ,
[23:10] <Ceno3x> bazhang: you seem to be investigating whether I'm crossposting this on #kubuntu
[23:12] <Matisse> hi
[23:13] <Matisse> i would like to have a newer version of a certain software (audacious), and there's a launchpad ppa... but its from person... how do I now if I can trust him?
[23:13] <Matisse> https://launchpad.net/~bdrung/+archive/backports
[23:15] <astraljava> Matisse: By getting to know him personally? Seriously, that's the problem with PPAs. You have absolutely no guarantees of anything.
[23:15] <callaghan> Matisse: ppa's are by definition personal ;) But bdrung is a top ubuntu developer, I think you can trust him...
[23:16] <Matisse> hmm... i thought if there's ppa of firefox, thats something different
[23:16] <astraljava> callaghan: But what if Benjamin has been working hard for several years, to gain the position and respect he enjoys nowadays, to use that for his advantage in planning the world domination?
[23:16] <astraljava> ;)
[23:16] <astraljava> Okay, nevermind. Like callaghan said, bdrung should be trusted for sure.
[23:16] <callaghan> astraljava: Then we are all doomed! :O
[23:16] <astraljava> ;)
[23:16] <kroq-gar78> :D
[23:17] <slckr> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, and cannot seem to add Konversation to my launcher. Other programs, I can drag onto the launcher, but Konversation, absolutely nothing happens --- no error message, it just does not add. Any help with this?
[23:17] <astraljava> Matisse: All PPAs are of some user/group/whatever. They provide no official support by anything ubuntu, except the individual[s] themsel[f|ves]
[23:18] <AlphaPsi> Hello everyone, in Wine, how do I create a new wine prefix? I heard that you can just rename the .wine folder, is that true?
[23:18] <AlphaPsi>  / correct?
[23:19] <lighta> slckr, try using init.d : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[23:19] <slckr> Oh my. I'm sorry. I just figured it out on my own, I believe. Right clicking after opening the program, on the Konversation icon on the launcher, and selecting Keep In Launcher.
[23:19] <denisb_> hello
[23:19] <slckr> Does what I just said seem right, lighta?
[23:19] <kroq-gar78> slckr: don't think so...
[23:19] <kroq-gar78> slckr: i mean yes
[23:19] <kroq-gar78> sorry
[23:19] <lighta> idk slckr seem too much gui related for me sorry
[23:19] <fishscene> Hey folks, Just wanted to thank the few people who helped me out yesterday with trying to set up smb://(server)/share/$LOGUSER.   I finally got it working by creating a script (as you guys suggested) and using gvfs-mount to mount the server-share, and then auto-open the proper subdirectory. I am *this* much closer to creating a seamless transition from Windows to Ubuntu for our organization. :)
[23:20] <kroq-gar78> slckr: yes, you're right :) sry for the previous response(s)
[23:20] <slckr> Welp. I'm gonna assume this did the trick. But I'm gonna check out the link you gave me just in case. And thanks kroq-gar78. Goodbye.
[23:21] <astraljava> fishscene: Awesome news. Thanks for sharing!
[23:21] <fishscene> That's what Linux is all about, right? :)
[23:21] <kroq-gar78> fishscene: of course!
[23:24] <Matisse> Is there an disadvantage to compile from source instead of using ppas?
[23:24] <kroq-gar78> Matisse: no auto updates
[23:24] <tyg13> So I think I may have screwed myself with this one a bit
[23:24] <lighta> Matisse, librairie may differ
[23:24] <kroq-gar78> Matisse: if you use source, you don't get automatic package updates. and you have to make/compile/install the source every time there's an update ot the code. For PPA's
[23:24] <ubuntunoobie2903> I am having troubles getting Ubuntu to detect my second monitor. I restarted and it switched monitors, so I know they're working, I just can't get it to detect both monitors at the same time.
[23:25] <tyg13> I tried to dist-upgrade the oneiric until I realized it was just a developer preview, so I logged out to prevent it from upgrading. Only problem is that it already updated package repository sources. How do I reset them
[23:25] <tyg13> to oneiric*
[23:25] <kroq-gar78> ubuntunoobie2903: do you use proprietary graphics card drivers?
[23:25] <DasEi> Matisse: you run in incompatiblity more , always to use a vm to test first
[23:25] <kroq-gar78> DasEi: yes, I agree
[23:25] <DasEi> always good*, Matisse
[23:26] <astraljava> tyg13: oneiric is the devel release, there's no newer than that.
[23:26] <ubuntunoobie2903> possibly, I have an nDivia card so that's entirely possible
[23:26] <tyg13> I know
[23:26] <kroq-gar78> ubuntunoobie2903: which ubuntu you using?
[23:26] <tyg13> I'm using natty, but when I try to install things it grabs from oneiric
[23:26] <tyg13> Which is bad
[23:26] <ubuntunoobie2903> 11.04
[23:26] <Matisse> DasEi,  so if I just want to try out a newer version (to this if some bugs vanished), still I should use a (good) ppa?
[23:26] <astraljava> tyg13: If on the other hand you meant natty, then `sudo sed -i s/oneiric/natty/g /etc/apt/sources.list` should do it.
[23:26] <Matisse> *to see
[23:27] <tyg13> astraljava, that's exactly what I needed, thanks!
[23:27] <kroq-gar78> ubuntunoobie2903: go to menu, then type "nvidia"
[23:27] <astraljava> tyg13: No prob.
[23:27] <DasEi> Matisse: yes, and sometimes there are also newer repos , second link coming
[23:27] <Matisse> newer repos? you mean instead of ppa?
[23:27] <astraljava> tyg13: It might not fix any/all PPAs, if you had those, though.
[23:27] <ciupicri> what's the name of the package that provides vim enhanced?
[23:27] <lighta> ubuntunoobie2903, did you tryed xrandr ? always working fine for me
[23:27] <DasEi> Matisse: mind that's own risk : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[23:28] <ubuntunoobie2903> just found nvidia, thanks
[23:28] <kroq-gar78> ubuntunoobie2903: now to go monitors (its a sub-menu on the left side)
[23:29] <jstoone> Hey everyone! I've been seing a lot of ip ranges written like 192.168.0.1/16 can any of you explain what the 16 means? Is it the same as 255?
[23:29] <astraljava> ciupicri: vim?
[23:29] <astraljava> $ apt-cache search vim | grep enhanced
[23:29] <astraljava> vim - Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor
[23:29] <ciupicri> astraljava, I have no idea, I'm not an Ubuntu user. It's for a friend.
[23:30] <fishscene>  /24= 255.255.255.0. If I recall correctly, /16= 255.255.0.0
[23:30] <kroq-gar78> fishscene: yes, you're right. those are the correct values
[23:30] <fishscene> Hooray for CCNA classes!
[23:30] <kroq-gar78> :D
[23:30] <kroq-gar78> what are those...
[23:30] <kroq-gar78> :P
[23:30] <ciupicri> astraljava, http://superuser.com/questions/127292/how-to-install-vim-full-in-ubuntu
[23:30] <lighta> jstoone, 16 mean your subnet will be on 16bit
[23:31] <jstoone> It's because I'm playing around with nmap on my network and I've seen some people use 16 instead of 255
[23:31] <lighta> just like fishscene said for decimal
[23:31] <DasEi> jstoone: the /16 defines how many addresses are defined, /24 is full , see: http://www.ralphb.net/IPSubnet/
[23:31] <astraljava> ciupicri: Please see the three lines above your "I have no idea..." line.
[23:31] <Psydoll> hey light!
[23:31] <astraljava> ciupicri: That article is more than a year old. A lot happens during that time.
[23:31] <kroq-gar78> jstoone: if you want more info, go to my thread some time ago...
[23:31] <kroq-gar78> lemme get the link...
[23:32] <ciupicri> astraljava, yeah, I saw them
[23:32] <jstoone> kroq-gar78: sounds great!
[23:32] <astraljava> ciupicri: But feel free to issue: $ apt-cache search vim | grep enhanced
[23:32] <ciupicri> astraljava, so there's just a vim package, that's it?
[23:32] <DasEi> jstoone: 256 addresses is a full ip4 pool in the last subnet
[23:32] <woonix> jstoone: The number after the slash is the number of bits that identify the network. Since there are 32 bits in an IP address, that means there are 16 bits left for hosts.... the way you can represent the subnet mask is as fishscene said.
[23:32] <kroq-gar78> jstoone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1782721&page=2
[23:33] <ciupicri> astraljava, unfortunately I'm not the one running Ubuntu, so I can't test that, but I thank you for your help
[23:33] <astraljava> ciupicri: You're probably thinking of vim-tiny, which isn't the full one.
[23:33] <jstoone> woonix: Oh, so if I do the /16 I will only get the half of the hosts?
[23:33] <astraljava> ciupicri: `sudo apt-get install vim` should provide the "enhanced" editor, though.
[23:33] <jstoone> kroq-gar78: Thanks! I'll take a look!
[23:34] <ciupicri> astraljava, probably; most VIs or VIMs from Ubuntu have disappointed me every time
[23:34] <orolin>  exit
[23:34] <ciupicri> astraljava, got it
[23:34] <lighta> there jstoone this may explain it n detail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[23:34] <kroq-gar78> jstoone: look @ the posts from capscrew on that thread
[23:34] <astraljava> ciupicri: Then you just don't know how to use it. *grin*
[23:34] <woonix> jstoone: It means that valid IP addresses on that subnet would range from 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255, minus a couple of reserved addresses
[23:34] <ciupicri> astraljava, ha ha ha. If I would want to travel back in time I would use a time machine :-P
[23:35] <astraljava> ciupicri: That does not dignify a response. :D But okay, this is getting off-topic, so... Hope that helped!
[23:35] <woonix> woonix: Which is 2^16 IP addresses, which is a lot
[23:35] <ciupicri> astraljava, I hope so.
[23:36] <astraljava> woonix: Self-centered much?
[23:36] <astraljava> ;)
[23:36] <jstoone> kroq-gar78: That helped a lot!
[23:36] <kroq-gar78> jstoone: thank capscrew! :P
[23:36] <woonix> astraljava: oh I get it. haha little mistake there
[23:37] <jstoone> woonix: So now that i did 192.168.1.1/16 it's 192.168.1.0 - 192.168.1.255? am i rite?
[23:37] <astraljava> woonix: Just found it funny. :)
[23:37] <kroq-gar78> astraljava: lol
[23:37] <Psydoll> how can you easily change the gui in ubuntu?
[23:37] <fishscene> IP address = 8bit.8bit.8bit.8bit. There are 2 parts to an IP address. The "Network", which represents routing. And the "host". The network mask tells the network which part of the IP address to use for routing and what part is the host. /(##) is a short-hand to do this. For example: /24 = 255.255.255.0 (255's represent "Network" and 0 represents "host")
[23:38] <woonix> jstoone: No, that would be /24 to limit it to the last 0-255. 24 bits to identify the network and 8 bits for the hosts
[23:38] <fishscene> 192.168.1.0/24 = 255.255.255.0 = 254 hosts (computers/devices)
[23:38] <DasEi> Psydoll: left click on logout-button, change session, either unity or gnome-classic
[23:38] <lighta> no jstoone 192.168.1.x would be a /24 subnet
[23:38] <DasEi> !classic | Psydoll
[23:38] <lighta> 253
[23:39] <fishscene> 192.168.1.0/16 = 255.255.0.0= 254x254 hosts (appx~)
[23:39] <lighta> didn't forget broadcast and reseau ?
[23:39] <fishscene> (aka a WHOPPING amount of computers)
[23:40] <fishscene> 0 and 255 are reserved for network and broadcast :) 254 hosts total.
[23:40] <woonix> astraljava: what would have been a hoot is if you had accidentally made that comment to yourself instead of me.
[23:40] <kroq-gar78> fishscene: lol yup :) I love Ubuntu..... and IRC.... and the forums.... (random)
[23:40] <lighta> 0 and 255 can't be assign so 253 host in a subnet /24
[23:40] <jstoone> Wow, that was a hell lot of info! I'm so glad I'm saving logs ;)
[23:40] <astraljava> astraljava: I don't know what you mean by that.
[23:41] <woonix> ;-)
[23:41] <fishscene> jstoone: If you really want to get into networking and such, feel free to take Cisco's introductory course: CCNA (Cisco Certified Network Academy). That's where I learned a lot of this stuff from. Before that, my eyes would glaze over trying to understand subnetting.
[23:41] <astraljava> jstoone: And even if you were not, you can always find them at irclogs.ubuntu.com
[23:41] <fishscene> I believe it was $80 in my area for an adult-ed course.
[23:41] <kroq-gar78> fishscene: that's what CCNA is..... is it free?
[23:41] <lighta> ah ? all mine was from web and try hahaha
[23:41] <woonix> fishscene: I was going to preface a similar comment with, "If you really want your head to explode..."
[23:41] <fishscene> LOL
[23:42] <kroq-gar78> fishscene: :| $80.... lol
[23:42] <fishscene> Just wait until you run into /18 and such :)
[23:42] <kroq-gar78> :)
[23:42] <woonix> my home net is a /27
[23:42] <kroq-gar78> wow
[23:42] <fishscene> $80 to gain a life-skill? Not too bad in my opinion. But I think I'm pretty far off the "Ubuntu" topic, so this will be my last post on this unless there's further Ubuntu-networking questions :)
[23:43] <Psydoll> thanks DasEi
[23:43] <woonix> well it's also a /64 since I run dual stacks
[23:43] <fishscene> cheater :)
[23:43] <jstoone> fishscene: I want to ask, but I fear the reply ;) haha
[23:43] <woonix> fishscene: Hello from the future :)
[23:43] <lighta> btw jstoone only some adresse are reserve for private used like 192. 10 and 172 well you'll understand when playing with for a while
[23:43] <fishscene> lolol
[23:44] <kroq-gar78> lighta: and 127
[23:44] <lighta> ah yeah localhost hehe
[23:44] <jstoone> also called trackback? right?
[23:44] <fishscene> There's no place like 127.0.0.1
[23:44] <jstoone> fishscene: what do you mean?
[23:44] <kroq-gar78> fishscene: isn't it localhost?
[23:44] <woonix> Teaching people about the internet is fun. Like, getting looks of surprise when I tell someone that web sites don't actually need to begin with "www."
[23:45] <fishscene> It's a bit of a joke. Yes, it is localhost.... There's no place like localhost (home)
[23:45] <sudokill> woonix, i think ff6 is getting rid of www in the address bar
[23:46] <sudokill> maybe its ff7
[23:46] <jstoone> fishscene: you lost me there..
[23:46] <fishscene> All in due time ;)
[23:46] <wabash> Hi, I have 2 monitors, of different sizes. The message bus messages always appear in the upper right corner, but that's my shorter monitor. Is there a way to move the message location?
[23:46] <jstoone> fishscene: Just that you said there is no such place as localhost? o.O
[23:47] <kroq-gar78> O.o
[23:47] <astraljava> jstoone: Not much to do with ubuntu support anymore, could you please carry this on @ #ubuntu-offtopic?
[23:47] <fishscene> good idea. I had forgotten about that channel
[23:48] <kroq-gar78> yeah mee too
[23:48] <jstoone> astraljava: Yea, sorry about that mate, I also felt a little bad for taking all that time about something that went off-topic a while ago ;)
[23:48] <astraljava> wabash: Seems it's not an easy task to do, but there's some info @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1293212, maybe that works for you?
[23:49] <wabash> astraljava: Thank you so much. I will look at it now.
[23:49] <jAguAr_> how do i connect a new hp laptop to a wireless connection?
[23:49] <astraljava> jstoone: No worries, just have that in mind for the future. :)
[23:49] <hamnegga> Anyone know how I can add a delete option, and or an open terminal option to the right click menu on gnome?
[23:50] <astraljava> jAguAr_: Does nm-applet not provide you with access points?
[23:50] <hamnegga> I downloaded and installed the nautilus-actions package in intrepid (what I'm running), but I still don't see those two optionI downloaded and installed the nautilus-actions package in intrepid (what I'm running), but I still don't see those two option
[23:50] <fishscene> Hamnegga: Have you tried: Preferences > Main Menu
[23:50] <a_failure> hamnegga: not sure did you look around /usr/share for a menu
[23:50] <wabash> astraljava: Well, it is close. I'll follow it as a starting point and see where it goes.
[23:50] <wabash> It just seems that the position should be a config param *somewhere*...
[23:50] <jAguAr_> there isn't even an applet showing up astraljava
[23:51] <astraljava> hamnegga: Open a Nautilus window, go to Edit | Preferences, Behaviour tab should have that option.
[23:51] <hamnegga> okay I'll check it out, thanks
[23:51] <fishscene> ignore me, I misread.
[23:51] <astraljava> wabash: Okay, I really have no other ideas, so good luck!
[23:52] <astraljava> jAguAr_: Really? Can you take a screenshot and paste it @ http://imagebin.com and copy the link to here?
[23:52] <hamnegga> That worked astraljava, thank you.  Do you know if there is an "open-terminal" equivalent to KDE's in gnome
[23:53] <astraljava> hamnegga: No idea, I hardly ever use Nautilus. Maybe one of its plugins?
[23:53] <jrib> In nvidia-settings, my tv is no longer detected despite being on and connected via s-video -> rca cable.  This used to work pre-natty.  I am currently on natty with nvidia driver version 270.41.06.  How can I troubleshoot?
[23:54] <astraljava> hamnegga: $ apt-cache search nautilus plugin terminal
[23:54] <astraljava> nautilus-open-terminal - nautilus plugin for opening terminals in arbitrary local paths
[23:54] <jAguAr_> this stupid laptop isn't even letting me take a screenshot
[23:54] <jAguAr_> There was an error running gnome-screenshot:
[23:54] <jAguAr_> Failed to execute child process "gnome-screenshot" (No such file or directory)
[23:54] <astraljava> jAguAr_:Can you find a PrtSc button?
[23:55] <astraljava> jAguAr_: Oh.
[23:56] <jAguAr_> i did a clean install of kubuntu, and then downloaded & put gnome onto it, and that is where i'm at right now
[23:56] <astraljava> jAguAr_: And how did you "download & put gnome onto it", if I may ask?
[23:56] <jAguAr_> thru a wired connection
[23:57] <ASrock> Is there any way I can go back to allowing me to move a window to a different workspace by moving it to the side of the screen?
[23:57] <astraljava> jAguAr_: No, I mean what did you use to install gnome on top of kubuntu?
[23:57] <kroq-gar78> ASrock: you can with cube
[23:57] <misreckoning> hey guys, I want to shred/nuke two HDDs on my laptop, and I don't have a live CD - can I do it from the on hard disk installation?
[23:57] <vlt> jAguAr_: You get the Ubuntu Gnome version by installing the pkg "ubuntu-desktop"
[23:57] <jAguAr_> Synaptic package manager
[23:57] <ASrock> kroq-gar78: Inside of compiz settings?
[23:57] <astraljava> misreckoning: gparted?
[23:57] <kroq-gar78> ASrock: yes. at least for me
[23:58] <ASrock> ok, ill try it out... thanks
[23:58] <misreckoning> astraljava: I don't think gparted supports shredding
[23:58] <Psydoll> jAguAr_: what do you mean?
[23:58] <astraljava> jAguAr_: Do you recall what package[s] you installed? Sounds like the installation didn't go through thoroughly.
[23:58] <vlt> misreckoning: You can even shred w/o gparted. Just run it on /dev/your_hd
[23:58] <misreckoning> astraljava: also it probably won't allow shredding a partition which is mounted
[23:58] <nesoi> hello, I just installed 11.4 on a dell xps m1330 and can't figure out how to get it to show the wireless networks. Or perhaps it didn't configure the wireless adapter properly. How can I tell and/or get it to work?
[23:58] <misreckoning> vlt: cool, however, will the system panic/stop working if I do that? :p
[23:59] <jAguAr_> there were a couple hundred packages that were installed as dependancies
[23:59] <astraljava> misreckoning: Depends on what you really mean by shredding. It can totally format hard discs.
[23:59] <astraljava> misreckoning: if you want, you can always use dd for that. But please, please be careful with it!
[23:59] <jAguAr_> i'm doing the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop now
[23:59] <misreckoning> astraljava: I meant using shred command tool
[23:59] <a_failure> nesoi: apt-get install wireless-tools
[23:59] <vlt> misreckoning: No, everything that's needed to shred should be in RAM when beginning.
[23:59] <misreckoning> astraljava: man I want to kill my HDD so there's nothing to be careful about
[23:59] <nesoi> a_failure, um... but I can't get on wireless.... :)
[23:59] <kroq-gar78> misreckoning: is it mounted?