| Unit193 | astraljava: Little late, but I haven't used it, I just heard horrors about it... | 00:11 |
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| pleia2 | charlie-tca: our past news announcements have been very basic "Xubuntu 11.04 alpha 1 released" and such, do we want that "Another great milestone.." thing to be the title now, or just a tagline? (I'm thinking tagline) | 01:57 |
| pleia2 | doh! | 01:57 |
| Unit193 | Good one ;) | 01:57 |
| * pleia2 fails at timing :) | 01:58 | |
| pleia2 | charlie-tca: our past news announcements have been very basic "Xubuntu 11.04 alpha 1 released" and such, do we want that "Another great milestone.." thing to be the title now, or just a tagline? (I'm thinking tagline) | 02:01 |
| charlie-tca | okay, I'm fine with that | 02:01 |
| charlie-tca | I just hope to get people excited, somehow | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:02 |
| charlie-tca | I am not much of a writer, just kind of hoping to get some people excited about Xubuntu | 02:02 |
| * Unit193 is -1 writer | 02:05 | |
| pleia2 | charlie-tca: mind if I change the long bit in the parentheses to a Please note: instead? | 02:05 |
| Unit193 | This will be on the side of the homepage? | 02:05 |
| pleia2 | looks a bit funny to have a multi-line parentetical | 02:05 |
| pleia2 | actually, I can make it not multi-line by changing text formatting a little | 02:07 |
| pleia2 | ok, draft saved, just need to publish in the morning when the isos are let out into the wild :) | 02:07 |
| pleia2 | ack, it's showing up in the list anyway | 02:08 |
| pleia2 | so much for prepping a draft, stupid drupal | 02:09 |
| Unit193 | It's not showing up on xubuntu.org if that's what you're saying... | 02:13 |
| pleia2 | yeah, i removed the draft | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | Go ahead | 02:14 |
| charlie-tca | I expect the release around 10:00 UTC again, but we will see | 02:14 |
| charlie-tca | Go ahead with any changes you think are needed. | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 02:16 |
| pleia2 | I will be sleeping at 10UTC :) | 02:16 |
| pleia2 | I'll update when I wake up | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 02:16 |
| Unit193 | I'll have to remember to check that... On another note, I just about finished up on 32alt autoresize | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | and it worked? | 02:17 |
| Unit193 | Normal issues, few icons missing, partly xfce theme, etc. | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | So, it worked | 02:20 |
| Unit193 | Yep! | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | all the bugs should be in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Bugs/OneiricOcelot | 02:20 |
| Unit193 | All but the guest one (That I can think of/see now) | 02:22 |
| charlie-tca | but no new ones yet? | 02:25 |
| Unit193 | Nope, not that I can see | 02:27 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, I have to go now and rest | 02:27 |
| Unit193 | Have a great nap ;) | 02:27 |
| charlie-tca | Not released yet, will be watching #ubuntu-release for the announcement | 15:05 |
| * pleia2 waves to charlie-tca | 15:55 | |
| plantoschka | is alpha 2 out already? | 16:04 |
| pleia2 | it is! | 16:05 |
| pleia2 | working on ubuntu-news post for big ubuntu, then adding xubuntu one to our site | 16:05 |
| plantoschka | great :) | 16:06 |
| pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/node/47 | 16:09 |
| charlie-tca | alpha2 is released | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | as of 15 minutes ago | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | pleia2: apparently 10:00 my time | 16:16 |
| pleia2 | :) | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | Please advise people to read the technical overview before they try oneiric. It will cause great headaches if they don't. | 16:23 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: got a bug that maybe we should trackL bug 807090 | 16:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 807090 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "New Login doesn't work since /usr/bin/gdmflexiserver is missing with lightdm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807090 | 16:23 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, goody, can't that be part of the missing session settings? | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/803499 | 16:25 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 803499 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu session using wrong settings" [High,Triaged] | 16:25 |
| micahg | well, Ubuntu will technically have the issue as well, but idk if they'll do anything about it since they don't ship xscreensaver | 16:25 |
| micahg | ideally this should be in some type of shared/global package vs xubuntu specific, but I think we should track it since we're impacted OOTB | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | Not until the next milestone, at least, when they actually work on the high importance bugs reported on the ISO tracker | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | adding lightdm to it, since that directly affects this bug | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: added to oneiric bug watches for us | 16:33 |
| plantoschka | is ubuntu using thunderbird as default on oneiric? | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | They added it for alpha2 | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | The final decision has not been made yet, whether or not it will really replace evolution. | 16:40 |
| plantoschka | just looking at it. they made some improvements with unity | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | Expect that decision for alpha3 | 16:40 |
| plantoschka | :) | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | Many thanks to everyone for helping get Oneiric Ocelot Alpha2 out! This was a difficult milestone, as can be seen by the number of flavours not releasing it. | 16:53 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: thanks | 17:19 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you. Feel free to add bugs to the watch, if you spot them. | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | It at least gives us a quick list to them | 17:20 |
| * pleia2 hugs meetingology | 18:49 | |
| Unit193 | He just had a name change in #lubuntu and #lubuntu-offtopic :D | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | That should make it easier | 18:51 |
| Unit193 | Quite! Thanks to AlanBell and #ubuntu-irc ! | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | Guess I can go work on my grass some more, but it is hot out there for me | 19:12 |
| micahg | so, bots are now 20% of the channel :-/ | 21:13 |
| Unit193 | 3 of them are supybots | 21:13 |
| charlie-tca | and two of them we will actually use | 21:15 |
| charlie-tca | oh, well | 21:16 |
| micahg | well, 3 are interactive, one passive | 21:16 |
| knome | now that we have 20% bots, can we also leave the talking to them?? | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 21:16 |
| knome | good | 21:16 |
| micahg | but still, the point was that we need more people :) | 21:16 |
| ochosi | i would love to see the bots talk to each other :) | 21:16 |
| * knome lapses to an infinite idle | 21:16 | |
| charlie-tca | Agreed. Now how to get more people? | 21:16 |
| ochosi | hm, the thing is, we shouldn't just get *anybody* but people who are at least 1) motivated and 2) capable | 21:17 |
| Unit193 | Looks like I shouldn't be here, I only have half the 1st | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | I am motivated, at least | 21:25 |
| knome | Unit193 & charlie-tca, in total you make 0,75 | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | Well, that's something, anyway | 21:26 |
| knome | out of four... | 21:26 |
| knome | err | 21:26 |
| knome | not | 21:26 |
| knome | :P | 21:26 |
| knome | 0,75 out of 2 | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | heh, confusing, isn't it? | 21:26 |
| knome | no wait, what | 21:26 |
| knome | 0,75% | 21:26 |
| knome | err! | 21:26 |
| knome | 75%! | 21:26 |
| knome | i blame the beer | 21:27 |
| knome | not enough of it yet | 21:27 |
| Unit193 | Me and Charlie both are motivated, but we are not capable? | 21:28 |
| knome | you said that yourself | 21:29 |
| Unit193 | Aye, that I did! I'm just summing it up ;) | 21:29 |
| knome | so because you both have the same half, i suppose that makes a strong 0,25 and then 0,25 | 21:29 |
| * micahg is quite confused | 21:30 | |
| knome | so probably a strong 0,375 | 21:30 |
| Unit193 | Exactly! | 21:30 |
| knome | ochosi, what's the lower limit? | 21:31 |
| ochosi | hehe, not sure, the lower limit is still getting a xubuntu release twice a year ;) | 22:14 |
| Unit193 | The only other Xubuntu user I know can't really help (And I'm working to get others converted to Xubuntu) | 22:19 |
| ochosi | that's cool, i mean things are working ok at the moment | 22:19 |
| knome | "can't really help" | 22:19 |
| ochosi | we have enough updrift due to unity and gnome3 breaking the old conventions | 22:19 |
| ochosi | but in a way steve (SiDi) was right recently when he said we're mostly doing packaging and painting | 22:20 |
| knome | (s)he can advertise, write a blog, give support, triage bugs... | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | knome: I can barely help... He might not have the time | 22:20 |
| knome | yeah... | 22:20 |
| knome | but i hate those guys who tell they have bugs and they need them fixed for their work, then they maybe fix them themself but don't post the back.. | 22:21 |
| knome | i was introduced to FOSS by a guy who pretty much never have worked with FOSS | 22:21 |
| knome | "yeah you definitely should take part" | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | You don't have to worry about me, I can't program worth a lick :D | 22:21 |
| knome | i'm not so good at plain programming either | 22:22 |
| knome | but there are other ways you can help | 22:22 |
| * Unit193 is still trying his hand at testing with the major help of charlie and astralj | 22:22 | |
| knome | that's appreciated | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | And the help I'm getting from those two is also great! I couldn't do it without them! | 22:23 |
| micahg | there are so many other ways to help Xubuntu besides coding | 22:24 |
| ochosi | i agree, but we could really use some coders... | 22:25 |
| micahg | is there more dev work I don't know about? | 22:26 |
| ochosi | you mean apart from packaging? | 22:27 |
| micahg | yeah | 22:27 |
| ochosi | well if there were more coders there would simply be more things we *could* do, e.g. improve some xfce-stuff that is important to us (e.g. indicator-plugin) | 22:27 |
| xrdodrx` | ochosi, you mean you want people to push changes beneficial to xubuntu upstream to xfce | 22:28 |
| xrdodrx` | right? | 22:28 |
| ochosi | basically yes | 22:28 |
| ochosi | micahg: it simply would be cool because we could deal with the unbeneficial changes to the codebase that ubuntu does way better | 22:30 |
| charlie-tca | Well, this is so much better. Now my installation of Oneiric which had been fine lost it's Xubuntu session settings | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | At least it matches the alpha2 images now | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: Did you change the wallpaper in greybird? | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca | haha, I now have the xfce-stripes.png wallpaper | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca | It also switched to tango icon set | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca | Transformation is not complete, though. I still have indicators... | 22:49 |
| ochosi | nope, didn't do a thing :) | 22:49 |
| charlie-tca | hm, clicked on settings manager -> Desktop, and the wallpaper changed to the right one. | 22:51 |
| charlie-tca | This is weird. The icons are now a mixed set, using both tango and xubuntu elementary | 22:53 |
| Mandrew | hi ya'll | 22:55 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, Mandrew | 22:56 |
| Mandrew | hi charlie-tca | 22:56 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: do you have the normal elementary-icon theme installed? | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | yup - Installed: 2.7.1-0ubuntu1 | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | It's got to do with the session settings and lightdm bugs | 23:00 |
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