| RAOF | bdrung_: It's called GNOME Do :P | 01:14 |
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| LLStarks | hi, if the expose doesn't work while gnome-terminal is in f11 fullscreen, is that a bug for unity or gnome-terminal? | 01:52 |
| RAOF | Unity. | 01:53 |
| RAOF | Well, probably compiz :) | 01:54 |
| LLStarks | k thx | 01:54 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:42 |
| oSoMoN | good morning | 07:01 |
| MacSlow | greetings | 07:19 |
| oSoMoN | hey MacSlow | 07:21 |
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| RAOF | njpatel: Hah! I finally have a server that emits raw events regardless of grabs. | 08:25 |
| njpatel | RAOF, awesome!! | 08:25 |
| RAOF | njpatel: I can throw it in a PPA if you'd like; I'm not going to upload it immediately before the weekend :) | 08:26 |
| njpatel | RAOF, I don't think I'll be able to use it before next week, so I can probably wait for upload into O | 08:34 |
| njpatel | RAOF, but, thank you so much :) | 08:34 |
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| jjardon | Hi, Im seeing a bunch of updates today. What is a good time to upgrade? | 12:11 |
| jjardon | ie, the upgrades are always at the period of time in the day or there is not a fixed plan for them? | 12:12 |
| njpatel | jjardon, I think there is a huge transition going on with *indicat* right now | 12:47 |
| njpatel | seb128, ^ | 12:47 |
| jjardon | njpatel: yeah, I know :/ | 12:48 |
| njpatel | yeah, so don't upgrade :D | 12:48 |
| njpatel | jjardon, ted has this effect on ubuntu where everything breaks ;) | 12:48 |
| jjardon | late ;) | 12:49 |
| jjardon | mmm, after the upgrade: No package 'indicator3-0.4' found, shouldnt be indicator-0.4 ? | 12:54 |
| njpatel | jjardon, it's indicator3-0.4 now I believe | 12:56 |
| njpatel | jjardon, tedg hates us | 12:56 |
| tedg | njpatel, No, just you. | 12:56 |
| tedg | :-) | 12:56 |
| jjardon | pkg-config --list-all | grep indicator | 12:56 |
| tedg | There was some collateral damage though | 12:56 |
| njpatel | :D | 12:56 |
| jjardon | indicator-0.4 libindicator - libindicator. | 12:56 |
| tedg | jjardon, GTK2 version, GTK3 is indicator3-0.4 | 12:57 |
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| kenvandine | jjardon, the new libindicator got built and NEWd before indicator-power to built.. | 13:27 |
| kenvandine | jjardon, so how is the update of indicator-power for the new libindicator coming :) | 13:27 |
| jjardon | kenvandine: I'm working on that ;) | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | thx :) | 13:28 |
| jjardon | but I get a sstrange error when compiling: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed | 13:28 |
| jjardon | (the same happens in indicator-sound) | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | ah! | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | look in your configure.ac | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | you missed changing one of the pkg-config calls | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | at least that is what was wrong with indicator-sound | 13:29 |
| jjardon | kenvandine: trying indicator-sound trunk now and the same problem persist | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | where it sets INDICATORDIR | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | jjardon, i don't think that fix has been merged yet | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | lp:~ted/indicator-sound/indicator-dir/ | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | -INDICATORDIR=`$PKG_CONFIG --variable=indicatordir indicator3` | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | +INDICATORDIR=`$PKG_CONFIG --variable=indicatordir indicator3-0.4` | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | same for INDICATORICONSDIR | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | jjardon, looking at that, i see indicator-power still has gtk2 cruft in configure.ac... :) | 13:32 |
| jjardon | kenvandine: yeah, just fixing it ;) | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | :) | 13:33 |
| tedg | You guys should really read the mail I sent to ayatana-dev on this issue :-) | 13:37 |
| * tedg pouts, no one listens to me :-( | 13:37 | |
| tedg | You know there is no emoticon for pout. Interesting. | 13:38 |
| andyrock | is there a member of the design team? | 13:38 |
| andyrock | njpatel, when you have a moment we can debug my branch... | 13:40 |
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| jjardon | kenvandine: https://launchpad.net/indicator-power/trunk/0.2 ;) | 13:47 |
| om26er | could anyone with the appropriate right re-open this bug 772612 | 13:47 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 772612 in compiz (Ubuntu Natty) "maximized window is displaced" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772612 | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | jjardon, thx! | 13:48 |
| om26er | and also smspillaz the compiz branch attached in bug 772612 creates a regression i.e. unity does not start, even the classic session hangs with high cpu usage | 13:49 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 772612 in compiz (Ubuntu Natty) "maximized window is displaced" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772612 | 13:49 |
| andyrock | DBO, around? | 15:30 |
| DBO | andyrock, yes | 15:33 |
| Trevinho | DBO: could you give a look to my merge request for BAMF? :) | 15:33 |
| DBO | yes | 15:33 |
| andyrock | DBO, i have a question about a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/761155 | 15:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 761155 in unity-2d "[launcher] Workspace Switcher icon cannot be moved" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:34 |
| DBO | Trevinho, reading now | 15:34 |
| DBO | will merge if all is well :) | 15:34 |
| Trevinho | Ok fine... thanks DBO... | 15:34 |
| Trevinho | And... For the wm_class thing, i've some ideas... | 15:34 |
| andyrock | DBO, is not a technique question, but a "design" question :) | 15:34 |
| Trevinho | I think I will "speak" with some code as soon as I can.... | 15:35 |
| DBO | andyrock, ask away | 15:35 |
| andyrock | DBO, if all icon can be moved in the launcher, when we add another icon (i.e. opening a new app), where it should be positioned? | 15:36 |
| Trevinho | but, there's already something that is not related to us, but mostly to libwnck... and his missing class APIs. Now the ubuntu package include some new APIs that I've added through a patch that libwnck are reviewing | 15:37 |
| DBO | andyrock, logically it would end up at the very end | 15:37 |
| DBO | which... sucks | 15:37 |
| DBO | andyrock, logically it would end up at the very end | 15:37 |
| DBO | which... sucks | 15:37 |
| DBO | Trevinho, you rock :) | 15:37 |
| Trevinho | No... I don't.. :P | 15:38 |
| Trevinho | Did you see that I also patched libSDL as you requested in their bugzilla? | 15:38 |
| andyrock | DBO, we could add the app icon after the last app icon... | 15:38 |
| DBO | Trevinho, no | 15:38 |
| DBO | awesome! | 15:38 |
| Trevinho | Patch is in their bugzilla both for libSDL-1.2 and libSDL-1.3 | 15:39 |
| DBO | andyrock, that would be confusing and random | 15:39 |
| Trevinho | however the ubuntu package is including it now | 15:39 |
| Trevinho | so pygame apps are now working fine with BAMF :P | 15:39 |
| DBO | YES! | 15:39 |
| andyrock | Trevinho, DBO is booking :P | 15:39 |
| DBO | andyrock, if you can mix all icons together, logically they are all "the same thing" | 15:39 |
| andyrock | *ed | 15:39 |
| DBO | andyrock, therefor, when a new one opens | 15:39 |
| DBO | you only have 2 logical spots | 15:40 |
| DBO | top or bottom | 15:40 |
| DBO | top sucks because it causes too much motion | 15:40 |
| DBO | so bottom! | 15:40 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: now that I've found him, I won't leave this precious guy to you only! :D | 15:40 |
| andyrock | Trevinho, i hate you :) | 15:40 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: Me too... :P | 15:41 |
| Trevinho | ops... you too! :D | 15:41 |
| Trevinho | however... Despite on what you say... I know that your heart totally loves me! | 15:41 |
| andyrock | Trevinho, i miss you :( <3 | 15:42 |
| Trevinho | DBO: for the WM_CLASS thing, however... I was thinking that if some windows shares the tuple (or triple) (wm_class_name, wm_class_resource, desktop_file) they are *always* belonging to the same app | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | so that mix can be used for generating their app_id too... That shouldn't be confusing at all | 15:45 |
| DBO | yes that's probably true | 15:46 |
| Trevinho | of course applications can set bad "wm_class" that could make BAMF to crash, but we could avoid this in two ways | 15:46 |
| Trevinho | tracking if that bus name already exist, or just keeping a list of known buses... | 15:46 |
| Trevinho | or... Move to gdbus (that I'm planning) | 15:46 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, before you work on moving BAMF to d-bus, would appreciate a chat | 15:47 |
| Trevinho | gdbus... | 15:47 |
| Trevinho | ok :P | 15:47 |
| njpatel | yes, gdbus :) | 15:47 |
| DBO | yes, gdbus | 15:48 |
| Trevinho | Ah... About this fact... and to libbamf... I was wondering: why don't we move that library to vala when moving to gdbus? It would make the code more easy to maintain... However I don't know if we could keep the API compatibility | 15:48 |
| * DBO glares at Trevinho | 15:48 | |
| DBO | no | 15:48 |
| Trevinho | Ok... :D | 15:49 |
| Trevinho | Any other reason for this? | 15:49 |
| Trevinho | DBO ? | 15:51 |
| DBO | Vala == easier to maintain, WAY harder to debug | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | Mh, no that much... | 15:51 |
| DBO | okay, can I just go "personal bias" here? | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | Also because it's just a wrapper library | 15:51 |
| DBO | also I dont much want to see the entire lib re-written | 15:51 |
| DBO | and it's a little more than just a wrapper | 15:52 |
| DBO | since it does local favorites | 15:52 |
| DBO | its a wrapper with benefits | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | ah, ok... Yes I agree for that... | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | however you're the boss... | 15:52 |
| njpatel | -1 for Vala | 15:52 |
| DBO | njpatel ^^ see what I did there | 15:52 |
| njpatel | DBO, I did, *applauds* | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | njpatel: what's the thing I should consider when porting? | 15:53 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, we'll change the way it works on D-Bus to be a bit more leaner, and ditch objects | 15:54 |
| Trevinho | Mh, ok | 15:55 |
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| Daekdroom | When I start gwibber through the messaging indicator, it won't use appmenu. What package should I report it against? | 16:14 |
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| Trevinho | Daekdroom: I guess gwibber itself | 16:15 |
| Daekdroom | Trevinho, well, I just tested it and it affects liferea too. | 16:16 |
| Daekdroom | So it's definitely not gwibber. | 16:16 |
| Trevinho | Ok, so it's the indicator menu | 16:17 |
| Daekdroom | but it doesn't affect thunderbird. | 16:17 |
| Daekdroom | Well, I'll file it against indicator-messages and a developer will change it if necessary | 16:19 |
| Trevinho | It could be possible that something has changed in the api and the projects you tested aren't synced yet.... I've not checked BTW. | 16:21 |
| Daekdroom | bug 807614 | 16:28 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 807614 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "Aplications do not use appmenu when launched through messaging indicator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807614 | 16:28 |
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