[03:26] <ScottK> Let me see what I can do.
[03:39] <ScottK> apachelogger: I got grantlee repromoted.  Please find someone to fill out the MIR properly.
[05:24] <apachelogger> ScottK: kthx
[06:25] <apachelogger> yofel: amd64 build gets new symbols in kdelibs :O
[06:25] <apachelogger> so does i386
[06:26]  * apachelogger blinks
[06:33] <CIA-52> [kdelibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708063304-ebxitpmpq1so16xl * debian/ (14 files) Update symbols files for i386
[06:50]  * apachelogger wonders wth libksane builddeps on phonon
[06:53] <CIA-52> [libksane] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708065313-t55onptw0zdtaqo2 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[07:01] <CIA-52> [kate] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708070122-hzp76sgnp05vgibg * debian/control fix builddep order
[07:03] <CIA-52> [kate] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708070301-rz4l82bwf0xtma2o * debian/control * data packages are arch all * dont repeat section defintions of the source para
[07:08] <CIA-52> [kate] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708070807-shl7vh7f97xmulqd * debian/control fix order of package relations, first depends then recommends then suggests then breaks then replaces then conflicts, kthxbai
[07:09] <CIA-52> [kate] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708070920-a34ked2ssnuxwy9m * debian/control fix double epoch
[07:12] <CIA-52> [kate] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708070952-oqcqh2l077r1zg4s * debian/control (log message trimmed)
[07:12] <CIA-52> break and replace <<, <= is less obvious for the reader, also in our case it is
[07:12] <CIA-52> a bogus statement. as there was no 4.6.80 on our end we do not know if our
[07:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, yofel: kate embargo'd missing license copies of GPL and GFDL
[07:19] <shadeslayer> morning  folks
[07:19] <apachelogger> please fix ASAP, kate is part of the builddep chain
[07:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: morningz
[07:19]  * shadeslayer checks
[07:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i see COPYING.doc
[07:20] <shadeslayer> in git 
[07:21] <shadeslayer> ah fooey
[07:21] <shadeslayer> not commited yet
[07:21] <apachelogger> also I only care about the tarball, not about git :P
[07:21] <apachelogger> well, about both, actually, but more about the tar ^^
[07:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also, why do you install CommitPolicy.draft.txt?
[07:22] <shadeslayer> in kate?
[07:22] <apachelogger> although, it will not work anyway
[07:22] <apachelogger> yes
[07:22] <apachelogger> debian/docs
[07:22] <apachelogger> just remove it
[07:22] <shadeslayer> sounds wrong
[07:22] <shadeslayer> will do
[07:22] <apachelogger> docs will not work with multi-bin packages anyway :P
[07:22] <apachelogger> unless it is debian/bin.docs
[07:23] <shadeslayer> will rename it then
[07:23] <apachelogger> no
[07:23] <apachelogger> look at the file
[07:23] <apachelogger> it is utter useless
[07:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kate-dev should depend libkate* I guess
[07:24] <shadeslayer> ok
[07:24] <apachelogger> usr/lib/kde4/katepart.so I think that should be in kate, otherwise thinks that use the kate kpart need to dep on kate-plugins, which would be odd
[07:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also the lintian override needs an update
[07:25] <apachelogger> kate: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libkateinterfaces4 libktexteditor-codesnippets-core0
[07:25] <apachelogger> former is a seperate package it seems
[07:26] <apachelogger> ah
[07:26] <apachelogger> nvm
[07:26] <shadeslayer> anything else?
[07:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=false why is that?
[07:27] <shadeslayer> because it failed tests during building iirc
[07:27] <apachelogger> ahk
[07:27] <apachelogger> should be good otherwise
[07:27] <shadeslayer> will check with again with RC2
[07:29] <apachelogger> I actually think it fails because of some build system weirdness
[07:29] <apachelogger> I have not seen any test pass in rc1
[07:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U
[07:30] <CIA-52> [libkdcraw] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708073056-qmeu8b1ctyew9pba * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack1-0ubuntu1
[07:34] <Quintasan> Good morning
[07:34] <apachelogger> yo Quintasan
[07:34] <apachelogger> Quintasan: feel motivated to work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grantlee/+bug/601662
[07:34] <apachelogger> ScottK got it prepromoted but wants better mir
[07:35] <apachelogger> good news everyone!
[07:35] <apachelogger> kdelibs built on i386 and amd64
[07:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: should i break/replace more stuff in kate now? seeing how we moved files? but since we didn't release them into public repos ....
[07:35] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[07:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: nvm unreleased moves
[07:35] <shadeslayer> ok
[07:36]  * apachelogger retries amd64 of kdepimlibs
[07:36] <apachelogger> ScottK: okular, libkdcraw and libksane in source new
[07:36] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 14 * debian/ (docs control kate-plugins.install kate.install) Fixes as suggested by Harald
[07:36] <shadeslayer> kate fixored
[07:36] <shadeslayer> now back to rocs
[07:36] <apachelogger> need new tar
[07:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sure can do
[07:37] <apachelogger> plz uploads repacke'd to ppa
[07:37] <shadeslayer> kk
[07:38] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Nope. Working on 4.6.5
[07:38] <Quintasan> Not now at least.
[07:41]  * apachelogger kicks pbuilder really really hard
[07:44] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Sup?
[07:44] <shadeslayer> uh
[07:45] <Quintasan> yofel: uploading kdebase-runtime 4.6.5
[07:45] <shadeslayer> yofel: shouldn't kate depend on kate-data (= {source:Version})
[07:45] <Quintasan> IT shout
[07:45] <Quintasan> typoday--
[07:45] <Quintasan> It should.
[07:45] <apachelogger> Quintasan: dunno, doesnt wanan create anymore
[07:45]  * shadeslayer fixes
[07:45] <apachelogger> craps out when installing libc
[07:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 807386 if you touch kdevelop indecently again
[07:46] <shadeslayer> ok
[07:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw what happens in mid term eval?
[07:46] <apachelogger>  56 Depends: ${misc:Depends}, kde-runtime-dbg, libkipi8 (= ${binary:Version})
[07:46] <apachelogger>  57 Suggests: libkipi8 (= ${source:Version})
[07:46] <apachelogger> clearly it woud like to have libkipi8 ^^
[07:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: mentor decides whether you were lazy scum, you decide whether you were lazy scum
[07:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what package is that?
[07:47] <apachelogger> libkipi-dbg
[07:47] <shadeslayer> oh
[07:47]  * shadeslayer most certainly was not lazy
[07:47] <apachelogger> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build/26974/. dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-9ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[07:47] <apachelogger> I does not compute
[07:48] <apachelogger> y u fail me so much
[07:49] <Quintasan> It is clearly obvious that it doesn't like you much apachelogger
[07:49] <Quintasan> :<
[07:50]  * Quintasan hates distrubuted development shit
[07:51] <CIA-52> [libkipi] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708075108-8yod53jj84ns0obv * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[07:51] <apachelogger> Quintasan: why be that?
[07:52] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) * Depend on kate-data( = {source:Version}) instead of {binary:Version}
[07:52] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Tell me how I'm supposed to patch something with quilt without having to extract the source, copy the debian dir, do quilt magic refresh and then copy back
[07:53]  * Quintasan goes apeshit over list-missing
[07:53] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-axQht-XDI
[07:53] <apachelogger> ARRRm
[07:53] <apachelogger> did I already mentioned that I oreded me some class10 micro sds?
[07:53] <shadeslayer> yes
[07:54] <Quintasan> some?
[07:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how much did they cost you?
[07:54] <apachelogger> bzr builddeb -e
[07:54] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[07:54] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[07:54] <apachelogger> 8 gig like 20 and 16 gig like 30 or so
[07:54] <shadeslayer> thats ... cheap
[07:54] <apachelogger> Quintasan: builddeb -e was for you btw
[07:54] <Quintasan> apachelogger: What be that?
[07:55] <Quintasan> $20 for 8GB Class 10 card?
[07:55] <Quintasan> FFS
[07:55] <apachelogger> the tool you should use to do distributed development :O
[07:55] <apachelogger> Quintasan: euros!
[07:55] <shadeslayer> oh
[07:55] <shadeslayer> lol
[07:55] <apachelogger> I only pay in real moniez
[07:55] <shadeslayer> i thought USD as well
[07:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: repacked kate is up
[07:55] <apachelogger> you are two drunken pirates
[07:56] <shadeslayer> includes COPYING.DOC and COPYING.GPL2
[07:56]  * Quintasan orders http://alplast-resellerweb.systemb2b.com/s/s/p-c9852381
[07:56] <Quintasan> ~41 euro
[07:57] <apachelogger> kingston is expensive like that
[07:57] <apachelogger> also get yourself some proper moniez
[07:57] <apachelogger> that is like monopoly all over again
[07:57] <Quintasan> Tell that to Polish gov
[07:58] <apachelogger> bzr: ERROR: Unable to find the needed upstream tarball: kate_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.gz.
[07:58] <apachelogger> :(
[07:58] <shadeslayer> hmm
[07:58] <apachelogger> even the apt source faisl me
[07:58] <apachelogger> bstd
[07:58] <shadeslayer> well .. ofcourse
[08:01] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLvFLEzC8lw
[08:06] <shadeslayer> ffs
[08:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i uploaded it to natty :/
[08:07] <shadeslayer> please kick me
[08:08] <apachelogger> srsly?
[08:08] <shadeslayer> yes
[08:08] <shadeslayer> wait
[08:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: feel better now ^^
[08:09] <shadeslayer> yus
[08:09] <apachelogger> however did I get to voice, oh, typo day
[08:09] <shadeslayer> hah
[08:09] <Quintasan> yofel: kdebase progress
[08:09] <Quintasan> work in progress
[08:10]  * Quintasan makes tea
[08:10]  * apachelogger read mates and was confused there for a second
[08:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: y no symbols file for kate?
[08:11] <Quintasan> lol
[08:12] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: PROTIP: dpkg-gensymbols
[08:12]  * Quintasan hides
[08:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because the build didn't say any were generated
[08:12] <apachelogger> Quintasan: that be spelled with a B you silly person
[08:12] <shadeslayer> heh
[08:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: because you did not include the proper mk files
[08:12] <apachelogger> I reckon
[08:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i shall look into it
[08:12] <apachelogger> k
[08:12] <Quintasan> PROTIP is like BROTIP but it's widely considered supid
[08:12] <apachelogger> embargoing again :P
[08:12] <Quintasan> stupid*
[08:13] <Quintasan> typoday--
[08:14]  * Quintasan is hungry
[08:14]  * shadeslayer too
[08:14] <apachelogger> ScottK: libkipi in source new
[08:14] <Quintasan> yofel: uploading kdebase
[08:14] <Quintasan> I think we will have 4.6.5 ready in staging in hour or so
[08:15] <apachelogger> retrying pimlibs on ppc
[08:15]  * Quintasan thinks he can upload everything at once and then just retry if it fails when in dep-wait
[08:15] <apachelogger> wth
[08:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: where will you upload 4.6.5 to? don't we have 4.6.90 in archives now
[08:15] <apachelogger> yofel: pimlibs also has dated symbols
[08:15]  * apachelogger waves fist 
[08:15] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Plan says Upload to kubuntu-ppa/staging with ~ppa1
[08:16] <shadeslayer> frankly, i find 4.6.5 a waste of time
[08:17] <CIA-52> [kdepimlibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708081704-an2zy9gl06ivipai * debian/ (14 files) Refresh symbol files
[08:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why is that?
[08:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because we will be packaging 4.6.90 for natty
[08:17] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Start doing RC2
[08:18] <apachelogger> .90 is dated already
[08:18] <shadeslayer> 95 then :P
[08:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also peopel should not use .90 in production envrionments
[08:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: let me finish rocs
[08:18] <apachelogger> also they should not use 4.7 in those
[08:18] <apachelogger> also unlike 4.7 4.6.5 can go into updates
[08:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Are there really no hopes for EGL on iMX?
[08:21] <apachelogger> I dunno, there are bigger problems right now
[08:21] <Quintasan> Such as 4.7?
[08:21] <apachelogger> yuz
[08:21] <apachelogger> also gsoc :
[08:21] <apachelogger> P
[08:21] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you could try to find someone who can tell us if there is a way to debug EGL init somehow
[08:22] <apachelogger> because without knowing what exactly goes wrong it is hard to ask for fixed stuff
[08:22] <Quintasan> I'll do it when I am done with 4.6.5
[08:22] <apachelogger> kk
[08:24]  * apachelogger thinks that yofel also forgot to symbol update libkdeedu
[08:24] <apachelogger> btw
[08:24] <apachelogger> does anyone know why I get No Such Resource
[08:24] <apachelogger> when trying to access a ninja ppa buildlog?
[08:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you use chrome
[08:25] <shadeslayer> thats why
[08:25] <apachelogger> -.-
[08:25] <apachelogger> in what browser does this particular feature work?
[08:25] <apachelogger> lynx?
[08:25] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Do you have a fast connection?
[08:25] <apachelogger> or perhaps I need IE?
[08:25] <shadeslayer> firefox
[08:25] <apachelogger> ah, right
[08:25] <apachelogger> so
[08:25] <shadeslayer> or rekonq as well
[08:25] <apachelogger> how exactly is canonical different from microsoft?
[08:26] <apachelogger> "need to use that browsa or wiii no like you"
[08:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: afaik its a bug in chrom*
[08:26] <shadeslayer> could be launchpad, but i was told it was a bug in chrom*
[08:29] <apachelogger> I care that much -><-
[08:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Do you have a fast connection?
[08:30] <apachelogger> not particularly
[08:30] <apachelogger> why?
[08:30] <Quintasan> :/
[08:30]  * Quintasan can't really do kdeedut
[08:30] <Quintasan> -t
[08:31] <Quintasan> Uploading that will take at least 1 hour
[08:31] <apachelogger> how big is it?
[08:31] <Quintasan> 71MB
[08:31] <apachelogger> well, will also take about an hour here
[08:31] <apachelogger> though I can proxy upload it
[08:31] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do you still have this spare machine I used long time ago?
[08:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i can upload it
[08:32] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Do you have faster upload than me? :O
[08:32] <Riddell> Quintasan: I still have my server in the cupboard
[08:32] <Riddell> Quintasan: I can start an EC2 machine too if you need a machine
[08:32]  * apachelogger wonders why libkdeedu didn't run gensymbols
[08:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i have ssh access to yofel's thinkpad
[08:32] <shadeslayer> oooh
[08:32] <Quintasan> Riddell: What I need is a connection with fast upload
[08:32] <shadeslayer> redesigned pkg-kde.alioth
[08:33] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you could always hog ScottK's connection ^^
[08:33] <Riddell> Quintasan: EC2 it is then
[08:36] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whats the speed of you connection anyways?
[08:36] <shadeslayer> upload speed that is
[08:38] <Quintasan> 512 Mb/s
[08:38] <Quintasan> BLEH
[08:38] <Quintasan> Kb/s
[08:39] <shadeslayer> a bit faster then
[08:39] <shadeslayer> i have 600 Kbps (day) / 1Mbps (night)
[08:40] <Riddell> Quintasan: ubuntu@ec2-50-17-30-70.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[08:40] <Riddell> Quintasan: let me know when you're done with it
[08:40] <Quintasan> Thanks
[08:41] <CIA-52> [libkdeedu] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708084126-0n41bu8nbp00nt7l * debian/changelog typoday--
[08:41] <CIA-52> [libkdeedu] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708084154-n9zbhuaw3r2x8scq * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack1-0ubuntu1
[08:42] <Quintasan> Packaging at the speed of light~!
[08:42] <shadeslayer> heh
[08:45] <apachelogger> ScottK: libkdeedu in source new
[08:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kate fixed yet?
[08:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: was fixing rocs, does kate have a higer priority?
[08:47] <apachelogger> nah, since ScottK is not around to let the stuff through new it doesnt really matter
[08:49] <CIA-52> [libkexiv2] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708084902-n5z9djao0987ngob * debian/control remove pointless original maintainer
[08:49] <CIA-52> [libkexiv2] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708084918-7x8nni0v254mb6yy * debian/control bump sc-dev-latest to .90
[08:49] <CIA-52> [libkexiv2] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708084940-krxxcibsslnoaac7 * debian/control update vcs entries
[08:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, Quintasan: does pbuilder creatio work for you?
[08:52] <apachelogger> oneiric builder that is
[08:53] <Quintasan> No idea, too lazy to try
[08:53] <Quintasan> It worked because I have one
[08:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it worked for me a couple of weeks back
[08:53] <apachelogger> well, I also have one
[08:53] <apachelogger> but now it doesnt work
[08:53] <shadeslayer> dunno about the latest status
[08:54] <Quintasan> THIS UPLOAD SPEED
[08:54]  * Quintasan tries to get a cable our of EC2 machine center
[08:54] <Quintasan> out*
[08:54] <CIA-52> [libkexiv2] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708085451-etfkrh5ri22d2a5c * debian/control fix description a bit
[08:56] <Quintasan> Riddell: I'm done with it, thanks!
[08:56] <shadeslayer> kate_4.6.95+repack.orig.tar.bz2                                                                                                                100% 1984KB   1.9MB/s   00:00    
[08:56] <shadeslayer> muwhahahaha
[08:56] <Quintasan> :/
[08:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: kdeedu was uploaded in like 3 seconds on EC2
[08:57] <Quintasan> lol
[08:57] <shadeslayer> lol
[08:57] <apachelogger> ooohhhhno
[08:57] <apachelogger> dpkg-gensymbols: warning: debian/libkexiv2-10/DEBIAN/symbols doesn't match completely debian/libkexiv2-10.symbols
[08:57] <apachelogger> why oh why
[08:58] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[09:01] <apachelogger> i386 build in ppa sez it is ok
[09:01] <apachelogger> interesting observation amd64 ppa builds do not run gensymbols for some reason
[09:01] <shadeslayer> wound /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/library-packages.mk be the rules file i need to build symbols?
[09:01] <apachelogger> http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html
[09:02] <shadeslayer> sawn
[09:02] <apachelogger> you first need to create an initial symbos
[09:02] <apachelogger> symbols
[09:02] <shadeslayer> and it will then pick them up automagically?
[09:03] <apachelogger> well, I reckon having a symbols file is first requirement to get symbol checking
[09:03] <shadeslayer> hmm
[09:34] <shadeslayer> hmm .. my emacs needs fixing
[09:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: halp
[09:35] <shadeslayer> i have this in my .emacs file : http://paste.kde.org/93343
[09:35] <shadeslayer> Error : http://paste.kde.org/93361
[09:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what makes you think I know anything about emacs?
[09:35] <shadeslayer> uh, i thought you did 
[09:36] <shadeslayer> iirc don't you use emacs? :P
[09:36] <Riddell> using a text editor is different from understanding Lisp :)
[09:36] <Riddell> actually i mostly use Kate these days, makes things much easier
[09:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: we need symbols just for libkatepartinterfaces4 right?
[09:36] <shadeslayer> hmm
[09:36] <apachelogger> the enterprise is dead to me
[09:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh, yes, right
[09:37] <shadeslayer> hahah
[09:37] <apachelogger> I possue
[09:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats a fun video isn't it
[09:38] <apachelogger> sure why not
[09:38] <shadeslayer> symbols++
[09:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does pkgkde-gensymbols not write the generated symbols to a file?
[09:40] <CIA-52> [kdeaccessibility] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708094030-2hakx3vj90bgywfc * debian/control bump kde-sc-dev-latest version
[09:40] <shadeslayer> ah nvm found it
[09:41] <CIA-52> [kdeaccessibility] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708094127-0yy77jvrouw7nl46 * debian/changelog remove unreleased entry
[09:41] <CIA-52> [kdeaccessibility] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708094136-4fl2og25ajv3tom5 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[09:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/PZ8LiKmQ
[09:44] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.com/ypshCsiD << kate.symbols
[09:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: any other package in kate that needs symbol building?
[09:45] <apachelogger> only libsrarories need symbolz
[09:46] <apachelogger> ScottK: doko wants to do a test rebuild today, so we better leave stuff in source new for now
[09:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no need for kate.symbols?
[09:46] <shadeslayer> but kate provides libkateinterfaces .. so don't we need symbols for that?
[09:47] <apachelogger> does it contain public libraries with public headers that upstream wants to be public?
[09:47] <apachelogger> because if it does then those should be properly packaged as libraries to begin with
[09:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well ... we do have kate-dev
[09:49] <apachelogger> that does not answer my question
[09:49] <shadeslayer> doesn't look like it
[09:49] <shadeslayer> so no then
[09:49] <shadeslayer> i just see symlinks to libkateinterfaces.so  libkatepartinterfaces.so  libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so
[09:50] <shadeslayer> s/to/from
[09:52] <apachelogger> looking at this I being to think that the packaging is moot
[09:52] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libkateinterfaces.so
[09:52] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libkatepartinterfaces.so
[09:52] <apachelogger> ./usr/lib/libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so
[09:52] <apachelogger> all public libraries
[09:53] <apachelogger> install all that stuff until necessary
[09:53] <apachelogger> on a related note why is libkatepartinterfaces4 necessary?
[09:55] <Quintasan> kk, going on a short break
[10:03] <CIA-52> [kalzium] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708100311-uod9ta0oqzot0zhm * debian/ (changelog control) fix version and clean trailing whitespaces
[10:03] <steveire> apachelogger: Ok cool. (re grantlee bugs monitored)
[10:04] <steveire> btw it is an optional dependency for kdelibs.
[10:04] <steveire> I think all unit tests still build and pass without it
[10:04] <steveire> And it is only used by unit tests
[10:05] <steveire> Although kjots and kaddressbook need it too anyway
[10:07] <CIA-52> [kalzium] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708100708-zzfs4zlwu6qdgmtd * releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[10:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because libkatepartinterfaces4 is a public lib?
[10:08] <apachelogger> so is libkateinterfaces and libtexteditor_codesnippets_core
[10:08] <yofel> apachelogger: huh? I did update symbols for kdelibs, but I somehow believe the recent gcc upload introduce more symbols (think of my kdenetwork failure)
[10:09] <apachelogger> that would explain why doko wants to do a rebuild test
[10:09]  * apachelogger finds it weird that a gcc upload introduces more symbols though
[10:09] <shadeslayer> hmm
[10:09] <yofel> or glib or whatever else was updated
[10:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sp split more?
[10:10] <apachelogger> what i said earlier
 install all that stuff until necessary ?
[10:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why is builddep order all messed up with yer pacakges
[10:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what build dep order?
[10:11] <apachelogger> Build-Depends: kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.6.90),
[10:11] <apachelogger>  cmake, debhelper (>= 7.0.50~), pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.12),
[10:11] <apachelogger>  kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.6),
[10:11] <shadeslayer> debhelper, cmake, kde-sc-dev-latest, kdelibs, foo bar
[10:11] <apachelogger> that is what it is supposed to be
[10:11] <apachelogger> with yuour stuff it always is semingly random
[10:11] <shadeslayer> well, is it really necessary to follow that order?
[10:12] <apachelogger> as necessary as obeying a codign style
[10:12] <apachelogger> there is a reason why kde-sc-dev-latest is first followed by a newline
[10:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: which is?
[10:13] <apachelogger> it is the only builddep you need to change for every package
[10:14] <CIA-52> [kamera] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708101441-08hkl676oq42na6d * debian/copyright newline at eof
[10:18] <CIA-52> [kamera] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708101800-g6ioj7xbv0cqlca6 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[10:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you did not mention Burkhard's copyright on kamera docs, you might want to fix that
[10:18] <shadeslayer> will do
[10:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also the license on docs is not clear, you might want to poke upstream about that
[10:19] <shadeslayer> not under GFDL?
[10:19] <apachelogger> nope
[10:19] <apachelogger> it doesnt say so anyway
[10:19] <apachelogger> if it did it is missing the complete copy
[10:19] <shadeslayer> looks like it
[10:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i'll email the author
[10:21] <shadeslayer> done
[10:21] <apachelogger> kbruch is missing kde-sc-dev-latest completely :/
[10:22] <shadeslayer> hold on
[10:22] <CIA-52> [kbruch] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708102208-1wh6ofdt2tpsa6tf * debian/control fix build deps, update vcs entries, fix version of dbg breaks/replaces
[10:24] <apachelogger> <<< 12:23.43 Fri Jul 08 2011!~/src/bzr/build-area/kbruch-4.6.90+repack 
[10:24] <apachelogger> <<< me@avatar!1009 E:1                                                                                                                                      
[10:24] <apachelogger> >>> grep -r legal doc/
[10:24] <apachelogger> doc/index.docbook:<legalnotice>&FDLNotice;</legalnotice>
[10:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^
[10:24] <apachelogger> also missing copyright statement
[10:24] <shadeslayer> is that kbruch?
[10:24] <apachelogger> yes
[10:24] <shadeslayer> fixing
[10:24] <shadeslayer> does not have COPYING.DOC too
[10:25] <apachelogger> that is what I was indicating :P
[10:25] <shadeslayer> ah ok :P
[10:25] <yofel> good, at least on my eeePC again
[10:25] <CIA-52> [kbruch] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708102538-w01c1d16rd0uaho3 * debian/rules newline at eof
[10:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also, i don't think i completely understand what you want me to do with kate
[10:26] <yofel> bah, the upgrade of my thinkpad is stuck on overwrites
[10:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: find out why we would want the libraries to be public
[10:26] <shadeslayer> alright
[10:26] <apachelogger> and only have the headers of selected libraries in the -dev
[10:27] <apachelogger> like should we only need/want libfoo1 you should only have the headers of that one library in the dev
[10:27] <apachelogger> (arguably you'd even only make a -dev for that lib rather than the whole source package)
[10:28] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 215 * debian/ (changelog control) Add breaks/replaces on kde-runtime-data for nepomukcontroller
[10:29] <yofel> bah, and next one
[10:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dude
[10:30] <apachelogger> get a proper editor
[10:30] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/control kde-wallpapers breaks/replaces kdebase-workspace-wallpapers (<< 4:4.6.80)
[10:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what happened?
[10:31] <CIA-52> [kcolorchooser] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708103150-9lp97kph3wvyoco1 * debian/ (control copyright) newline at eof!!!!
[10:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that ^
[10:32] <shadeslayer> :S
[10:32] <apachelogger> Replaces: kdegraphics-dbg (>= 4:4.6.80)
[10:32] <apachelogger> that my friend is a bug
[10:32] <shadeslayer> yes it is
[10:33] <CIA-52> [kcolorchooser] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708103255-z61hp9uc4w66rfey * debian/control fix deps
[10:33] <shadeslayer> i could not remember where i made that mistake, although i was sure i made it somewhere
[10:33] <CIA-52> [kcolorchooser] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708103338-jnr2vhj94ykhx9ih * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[10:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: grep is your friend ^^
[10:34] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 509 * debian/ (changelog control) kde-workspace-data breaks/replaces kde-icons-mono << 4:4.6.80
[10:35]  * apachelogger waits for Quintasan to return
[10:35] <yofel> bah, you already uploaded kalzium
[10:35] <apachelogger> yofel: find an archive admin to reject it from source new
[10:36] <yofel> well, needs some breaks/replaces, so ubuntu2 would be fine too
[10:36] <yofel> and I don't know any archive admins
[10:37] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalzium] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/ (changelog control) libcompoundviewer4 breaks/replaces kalzium << 4:4.6.80
[10:38] <CIA-52> [konsole] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708103823-oq1xrqkl70f9m6ub * debian/copyright tabs--
[10:40] <CIA-52> [konsole] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708103952-trdakp8c7srzpeoe * debian/source/lintian-overrides remove unrelated overrides
[10:40] <bambee> morning
[10:41] <CIA-52> [konsole] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708104113-qg7q375654ii2emz * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[10:43] <apachelogger> bambee: ahoy, please take a look at libkexiv2, I had missing symbols when building it earlier
[10:43] <apachelogger> on amd64 that was
[10:43] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch] Rohan Garg * 6 * debian/copyright Add copyright for docs
[10:43] <bambee> apachelogger: ok
[10:48] <shadeslayer> fffffuuuuu .... also have to fill in the german visa form
[10:48] <shadeslayer> etoomuchwork
[10:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can i upload the kbruch 4.6.95 tarball instead of the 4.6.90 one?
[10:52] <yofel> please don't, that'll be a mess
[10:52] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[10:53] <shadeslayer> will have to upload with repack1 then
[10:53] <yofel> besides, you fixed it post-rc2, so you would need to repack it anyway
[10:53] <shadeslayer> yeah
[10:56] <bambee> apachelogger: you're totally right
[10:56] <bambee> I did not see them
[10:57] <bambee> well, no abi breakage => these missing symbols are methods into a private class
[10:58] <bambee> which is not installed in public headers and only used into KExiv2
[10:58] <bambee> (the class KExiv2 I mean)
[10:59] <apachelogger> kk
[10:59] <apachelogger> plz update symbols file
[11:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: new kbruch with proper license uploaded
[11:04] <shadeslayer> plz rename it to repack tho, since you haven't uploaded it
[11:05] <apachelogger> meh
[11:05] <apachelogger> additional work
[11:05] <apachelogger> me not likes
[11:05] <apachelogger> >>> basename `pwd` && grep -r legal doc
[11:05] <apachelogger> kturtle-4.6.90
[11:05] <apachelogger> doc/index.docbook:<legalnotice>&FDLNotice;</legalnotice>
[11:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^
[11:05] <apachelogger> next one :P
[11:05] <shadeslayer> fixing
[11:07] <apachelogger> also -dbg is empty
[11:07] <apachelogger> no ida why
[11:07] <apachelogger> *idea
[11:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: Source: <url://example.com>
[11:08] <apachelogger> lulz
[11:08] <shadeslayer> where
[11:09] <shadeslayer> ffs
[11:09] <CIA-52> [kturtle] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708110912-47qid4qpggw4bh41 * debian/ (control docs rules) newline at eof and deps fixes
[11:09] <shadeslayer> now i have to wait for a couple of minutes :<
[11:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kbruch no repack1?
[11:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whut?
[11:11] <apachelogger> Using saved parent location: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch/
[11:11] <apachelogger>  M  debian/copyright                                                                                             
[11:11] <apachelogger> All changes applied successfully. 
[11:11] <apachelogger> no update to changelog
[11:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes, just rename the tarball from repack1 to repack
[11:12] <shadeslayer> ppa had reapck, archives don't
[11:12] <apachelogger> why yes
[11:12] <apachelogger> no I manually need to get the tar
[11:12] <apachelogger> s/no/now
[11:13] <shadeslayer> yus, sorry
[11:14] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kturtle] Rohan Garg * 5 * debian/copyright Fix Source field in copyright
[11:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kaput
[11:15] <shadeslayer> ?
[11:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: >>> ls COPYING COPYING.DOC
[11:15] <apachelogger> ls: cannot access COPYING: No such file or directory
[11:15] <apachelogger> COPYING.DOC
[11:15] <shadeslayer> WHAT 
[11:15] <shadeslayer> ARE YOU SHITTING ME
[11:15] <apachelogger> would be fun
[11:15] <apachelogger> oh, btw
[11:16] <apachelogger> someone tell the dirk to remove .gitignore or he's gonna get a beatin
[11:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fix on your own then :P
[11:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you broke, you fix
[11:16]  * apachelogger updates embargo :P
[11:18] <yofel> uh...
[11:18] <yofel> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/konq-plugins_4%3a4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa6_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[11:18] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/config.kcfg/keditbookmarks.kcfg', which is also in package kde-baseapps-data 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa6
[11:18] <yofel> keditbookmarks.kcfg is NOT in konq-plugins.install
[11:18] <shadeslayer> LOL
[11:19] <shadeslayer> apt has finally gone kaput handling our packages
[11:19] <apachelogger> yofel: is cantor blocked on that kalgebra thing?
[11:19] <yofel> apachelogger: well, not really, maxima ant the other backend should work fine
[11:19] <yofel> s/ant/and
[11:22] <apachelogger> yofel: ./konq-plugins.install:/usr/share/kde4/config.kcfg
[11:22] <apachelogger> that takes the dir
[11:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kbruch_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2
[11:22] <shadeslayer> thats the fixed one
[11:22] <yofel> BAH
[11:23]  * yofel goes fixing
[11:24] <CIA-52> [kbruch] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708112427-o3to791zehlrjny2 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[11:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: lets hope nothing broke
[11:25] <shadeslayer> yes :P
[11:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kturtle_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2 << kturtle
[11:27] <CIA-52> [kanagram] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708112723-25rtae9prsic0a37 * debian/ (control copyright rules) newline business
[11:28] <apachelogger> zomg kanagram actually is in proper shape
[11:28] <apachelogger> woohoo
[11:28] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[11:28] <CIA-52> [kanagram] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708112843-npgwyf0bxhfzarbn * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[11:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: rocs is nearly done as well
[11:29] <apachelogger> well
[11:29] <apachelogger> lunch break
[11:30] <shadeslayer> bai
[11:31] <shadeslayer> great
[11:31] <shadeslayer> rocs has each and every GPL licensing 
[11:34] <yofel> fooey, new symbols here too
[11:36] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 175 * debian/ (konq-plugins.install libkonq5abi1.symbols) fix konq-plugins install file and add new symbols
[11:38] <shadeslayer> how do i handle the GPL v1 license now?
[11:38] <shadeslayer> we don't install GPLv1 on systems anymore
[11:39] <yofel> bbl
[11:46] <bambee> apachelogger: fixed btw
[11:57] <yofel> where's jonthetaco when you need him...
[11:58] <yofel> k, now let's reboot my thinkpad and see if KDE is broken ^^
[12:00] <shadeslayer> yay, rocs even has LGPL 2.1 ... this is fun
[12:06] <yofel> now this was NOT fun
[12:07] <yofel> the nvidia driver failed to load GLX again => kde crashed at login
[12:07] <yofel> reinstalling the driver and kde started fine
[12:07] <yofel> other than that, welcome KDE 4.7 ^^
[12:08]  * Quintasan resumes 4.6.5 frenzy
[12:08] <yofel> oh right, I had workspace marked for me, doing it now
[12:09] <yofel> *headdesk*
[12:09] <yofel> cd dump/kubuntu/4.6.5/kde-work<tab>...<tab><tab> - huh? where's the folder -.-
[12:10] <yofel> good that 4.6.5 is the last of that
[12:11] <Quintasan> kdeplasma-addons dep-wait on workspace :)
[12:11] <yofel> building now
[12:12] <Quintasan> yofel: Can you  kdeartwork and games since they are too big for me to upload?
[12:12] <Quintasan> do*
[12:13] <Quintasan> ahh
[12:13] <Quintasan> network is on depwait too
[12:13] <yofel> sure
[12:14] <Quintasan> once you upload I will retry
[12:19] <yofel> stupid indicator, plasma crash:
[12:19] <yofel> #6  0x00007fec4e85e794 in ?? () from /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_message_indicator.so
[12:20]  * Quintasan would kill it with fire
[12:20] <Quintasan> Here, Plasma spawns some jobs at random
[12:20] <Quintasan> at lest 16 of them
[12:21] <Quintasan> ofc the desktop gets unresponsive as it can get
[12:21] <Quintasan> yofel: workspace nao
[12:21] <Quintasan> :S
[12:22] <yofel> well, at least I now know why plasma crashes everytime I launch thunderbird
[12:22] <Quintasan> >thunderbird
[12:22] <yofel> still building
[12:22] <yofel> oh right, let's try kmail from 4.7
[12:23] <shadeslayer> ^^ that would be fun
[12:23]  * Quintasan doesnt even bother
[12:23] <Quintasan> it's broken
[12:23] <yofel> doesn't work better or worse than 4.6 for the first minute ^^
[12:24] <yofel> meaning: I still can't read my mails
[12:24] <Quintasan> I told you :D
[12:25] <yofel> thunderbird FTW!
[12:25] <yofel> anyone an idea if kmail 4.4. works with KDE 4.7?
[12:26] <yofel> grr... workspace: build faster...
[12:26]  * yofel needs an i7 octa-core
[12:27] <yofel> maybe I should just fix icecc
[12:28] <yofel> apachelogger: does icecc work for you?
[12:29] <Quintasan> lol rampage
[12:30] <Quintasan> MOAR FAILURES
[12:32] <Quintasan> yofel: Done, ping me when workspace is uploaded so I can retry
[12:34] <yofel> 74%...
[12:34] <yofel> wtf, kmail finally managed to list my bugmail, after like 10 minutes
[12:40] <yofel> WTF? I can't right-click the 4.7 panel. The context menu opens and closes itself after less than a second
[12:42] <yofel> wtf, works now
[12:48] <yofel> workspace up, games coming
[12:54] <tim> hi, are there plans to package the kdevelop-4.2.3 bugfix release in the near future?
[12:57] <yofel> tim: planned yes, although I can't give you a good estimate considering our current workload
[12:57] <yofel> shadeslayer: didn't you want to do that?
[12:59] <tim> yofel: ok ... i was just wondering because 4.2.2 sometimes crashes on my machine and i hope some of those issues have been fixed
[13:18]  * yofel prepares kde-l10n 4.6.5
[13:19] <shadeslayer> tim: its on my TODO after KDE 4.7
[13:19] <tim> shadeslayer: great, thanks!
[13:20] <shadeslayer> probably should be able to touch it on mondau
[13:20] <shadeslayer> *monday
[13:23] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-natty] Philip Muškovac * 97 * debian/ (changelog rules) 4.6.5
[13:24] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-natty] Philip Muškovac * 98 * debian/build-l10n.sh fix branch location
[13:25] <yofel> bah, still uses ktown
[13:26] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-natty] Philip Muškovac * 99 * debian/build-l10n.sh fix tarball server and location
[13:44] <yofel> wtf o.O
[13:44] <yofel> Err https://private-ppa.launchpad.net oneiric/main Sources
[13:44] <yofel>   The requested URL returned error: 416
[13:44] <ulysses> !find libkontactinterface.so.4
[13:45] <ulysses> !find libakonadi-contact.so.4
[13:45] <ulysses> !find libakonadi-contact.so.4 lucid
[13:45] <Quintasan> yofel: Build retried
[13:46] <yofel> might fail again, i386 not yet published
[13:47] <yofel> now that I have my copy script I'll upload l10n to the PPA too so we can do some regression testing
[13:48] <yofel> and stress testing for my script :P
[13:54] <bambee> yofel: which ppa should I use ?
[13:55] <yofel> for?
[13:57] <bambee> kde 4.7 for natty
[13:57] <bambee> backport, I guess?
[13:58] <yofel> don't bother with 4.6.90, 4.6.95 was uploaded a few hours ago, we'll backport that
[13:58] <bambee> ok
[14:04] <CIA-52> [grantlee] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708140415-9pahwxjjdcii0btc * debian/ (13 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[14:04] <CIA-52> Sync with archive!!@!!! * Revert previous upload and try again with the correct
[14:04] <CIA-52> patch * Backport upstream commits 128272d4f65d7f02372cb606c148817c2f15a78d and
[14:06] <apachelogger> DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_ALL = -V -u-c0
[14:06] <apachelogger> TF
[14:06] <apachelogger> srsly
[14:10] <yofel> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkexiv2-10_4%3a4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[14:10] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/libkexiv2/data/topicset.iptc-subjectcode.xml', which is also in package kdegraphics-libs-data 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu1
[14:11]  * yofel fixes
[14:13] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/control libkexiv2-10 breaks/replaces kdegraphics-libs-data << 4:4.6.80
[14:14] <yofel> that removes koffice and krita btw.
[14:14] <yofel> since they depend on libkexiv9 which depends on kdegraphics-libs-data
[14:16] <apachelogger> fun
[14:16] <apachelogger> yofel: provides :P
[14:17] <apachelogger> good lord
[14:17] <apachelogger> install libqt4-dev and it rapes your omap install to the point where gles is fuck'd again
[14:17] <apachelogger> awesome
[14:17] <yofel> uh, I'm not convinced that would work right here ^^
[14:17] <apachelogger> wondering why
[14:18] <apachelogger> yofel: course not because having one package for all libs is the weapon of choice for brain demage
[14:19] <yofel> I'm not convinced doing things the fedora way is better either
[14:19] <apachelogger> what is the fedora way?
[14:19] <yofel> batch everything somehow into one package per component
[14:19] <apachelogger> ehm
[14:19] <apachelogger> that is what kdegrafck-libs-data is
[14:19] <yofel> at least that's how I understood their position in the splitting discussion
[14:20] <yofel> apachelogger: nono, I meant ala project-neon-kdegraphics
[14:20] <apachelogger> yeah
[14:20] <apachelogger> that is what kdegrafck-libs-data is
[14:20] <apachelogger> one large blob package
[14:20] <bambee> did someone upgrade to kde 4.6.90 ?
[14:20] <apachelogger> so that shit breaks when it should not
[14:20] <yofel> bambee: me, crashed due to my nvidia driver not working right. Works fine after I fixed that
[14:21] <apachelogger> ScottK: I could use an archive admin now
[14:21] <bambee> yofel: any troubles with kde-window-manager ?
[14:21] <ScottK> OK.
[14:21] <yofel> not that I remember
[14:21] <bambee> apt-get tries to remove kde-windows-manager :\
[14:21] <ScottK> apachelogger: Did doko give the go ahead?
[14:21] <apachelogger> aye
[14:21] <bambee> everything is right except kwin...
[14:21] <apachelogger> he needs to do more uploads so he decide to postpone the rebuild test after kde update fun
[14:21] <yofel> bambee: uh, it is installed here
[14:22] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ping
[14:22] <apachelogger> poor armel is building 8 hours on kde4libs
[14:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: What should I look at first?
[14:23] <apachelogger> ScottK: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging everything orange
[14:23] <apachelogger> almost all of them are part of builddeps
[14:24] <ScottK> Anything in particular higher priority?
[14:24] <yofel> let me see if I can get the licensing of marble worked out, it's total chaos
[14:24] <apachelogger> ScottK: nope
[14:24] <apachelogger> they are all high in priority ^^
[14:24] <ScottK> OK.
[14:26] <apachelogger> debfx: ping
[14:26] <apachelogger> them kubuntu devs are never around when you need them
[14:26] <apachelogger> yofel: is workspace ready?
[14:27] <bambee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/640167/  o_O
[14:27] <yofel> apachelogger: read over https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/67202 again, I fixed some overwrite and the Vcs links
[14:27] <apachelogger> bambee: aptitude is not supported
[14:28] <apachelogger> yofel: couldn't I just do that in the branch? :P
[14:28] <bambee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/640169/ :D
[14:28] <bambee> (apt-get)
[14:28] <ScottK> OMW.  Just looked at the dep graph.
[14:29] <bambee> there is just a wtf remove ...
[14:29] <yofel> apachelogger: well, LP has such nice colors :P
[14:29] <apachelogger> well, that output suggests I should not upload workspace just now :P
[14:29] <apachelogger> yofel: git diff would have that too :P
[14:29] <apachelogger> besides
[14:29] <apachelogger> qbzr has them too
[14:29] <yofel> true
[14:29] <apachelogger> and if fastarrrr
[14:29] <apachelogger> s/if/is/g
[14:29] <kubotu> apachelogger meant: "and is fastarrrr"
[14:29] <yofel> well, It should be ready IMO, but I didn't do a check build
[14:30] <apachelogger> yofel: so why does it want to remove almost all workspace stuff from bambee's system?
[14:30] <yofel> it didn't here
[14:30] <debfx> apachelogger: pong
[14:30] <apachelogger> debfx: do you have time to review/upload stuff?
[14:31] <apachelogger> I do not feel comfortable uploading my own packages, especially since I did not do much packaging lately
[14:31] <yofel> bambee: use aptitude to tell you WHY it wants to remove it
[14:31] <debfx> not much but I can upload a few
[14:32] <bambee> yofel: already done http://paste.ubuntu.com/640167/
[14:34] <apachelogger> yofel, bambee: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.6.80), <--- you should only be using 4.6, kde-sc-dev-latest takes care that the appropriate version is available
[14:34] <yofel> bambee: that doesn't tell a thing, run it interactively and go to kde-window-manager in the dep-resolution dialog
[14:35] <yofel> k
[14:35] <debfx> apachelogger: which ones do you want me to review?
[14:35] <yofel> oh, I belive kde-window-manager is auto-removed due to nothing depending on it
[14:35] <apachelogger> debfx: all I did
[14:35] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'm a bit confused on libkipi licensing.  debian/copyright mentions lgpl as does libkipi.lsm.cmake, but I find no reference to it in the code, nor do I find a full copy of the LGPL included.
[14:36] <yofel> or rather, due to kde-workspace(-bin) don't get installed
[14:36] <yofel> *not getting installed
[14:36] <ScottK> Would you please investigate?
[14:37] <apachelogger> ScottK: it is gpl, there is but one header with lgpgl
[14:38] <apachelogger> complete copy seems indeed to be missing
[14:38] <ScottK> We'll need that.
[14:38] <ScottK> I'll reject and then please reupload.
[14:38] <apachelogger> *nod*
[14:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^
[14:42] <shadeslayer> what happened?
[14:42] <shadeslayer> the power went out here again
[14:42] <shadeslayer> yofel: i haz good news :)
[14:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: theres a new template in syncevolution that allows you to sync calendars \o/
[14:43] <yofel> nice :)
[14:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: unfourtunately ..... http://i.imgur.com/tuPLq.png
[14:43] <ScottK> libkdeedu accepted.
[14:44] <yofel> meh
[14:44] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:45] <ScottK> shadeslayer: :P after libkipi is fixed.
[14:45]  * shadeslayer reads backlog
[14:46] <shadeslayer> alright, i'll have a look
[14:46] <apachelogger> bambee: did you refresh arbitary patches in workspace?
[14:46] <bambee> apachelogger: I just refreshed existing patches
[14:46] <apachelogger> ok
[14:46] <apachelogger> bambee: you should not do that :P
[14:46] <bambee> aaah...
[14:46] <apachelogger> especially if the patches are from debian
[14:47] <apachelogger> as it increases the delta we have to review for merges next time around
[14:47] <yofel> only refresh if there's fuzz, otherwise leave them
[14:47] <bambee> ok 
[14:47] <bambee> noted
[14:50] <apachelogger> bambee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/640179/
[14:51] <apachelogger> there was something removed?
[14:52] <ScottK> apachelogger: In libkdcraw, what's the licensing on profiles/srgb-d65.icm and profiles/prophoto.icm?
[14:55] <bambee> apachelogger: apparently I did some crap xD
[14:56] <apachelogger> bambee: yeah, please revisit your patche changes
[14:56] <apachelogger> ultimately revert everything that is not necessary
[14:57] <apachelogger> and if something beyond refresh is necessary please document in the changelog
[14:57] <shadeslayer> yofel: wth is kde4libs-4.6.2 doing in your /tmp ? :P
[14:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: not explicitly defined
[14:57] <ScottK> apachelogger: So on what terms are they distributable in our package?
[14:57] <yofel> shadeslayer: that's owned by YOU, so ask yourself
[14:58] <ScottK> I suspect they were grabbed from somewhere else and Google knows where/licensing, but it should be investigated.
[14:58] <apachelogger> ScottK: didn't find anything on google
[14:58] <shadeslayer> heh, no idea, removed
[14:58] <apachelogger> seems the digikam guys came up with the stuff themselves
[14:58] <ScottK> Copyright (C) 1999-2005 Scarse Project
[14:58] <apachelogger> ScottK: I'd put that into the same category as icons and ignore the files ;)
[14:58] <shadeslayer> ScottK: libkipi/libkipi_export.h is LGPL
[14:59] <shadeslayer> so i just need to include the LGPL copyright ?
[14:59] <ScottK> Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company
[14:59] <shadeslayer> what
[14:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: where do you see that?
[14:59] <ScottK> apachelogger: Embedded in the files.  Open them with vim.
[14:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: complete copy of lgpl missing
[15:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: right, anything else?
[15:00] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, that could mean anything
[15:00] <ScottK> apachelogger: grep -ir copyright * is a wonderful tool.
[15:00] <apachelogger> like the editor they were created with
[15:00] <ScottK> It could.
[15:00] <ScottK> It's unlikely to though.
[15:00] <apachelogger> Scarse is a free color calibration and management software package. It lets you build and use ICC profiles. Custom profiles can be generated from variety of calibration targets. Scarse is intended for (and developed on) Unix machines and is distributed under the terms of GNU Public License.
[15:00] <apachelogger> not so unlikely :P
[15:01] <ScottK> apachelogger: How about the HP one?
[15:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you uploaded the tar from ninjas right?
[15:01] <apachelogger> well if it was created with scarse then clearly hp doesn't hold copyright
[15:01] <ScottK> That's a different file.
[15:01] <apachelogger> ah
[15:01] <ScottK> And HP can certainly use Scarse to create stuff they own.
[15:02] <ScottK> GPL doesn't infect files that way.
[15:02] <apachelogger> ScottK: what file is that?
[15:02] <ScottK> profiles/srgb-d65.icm
[15:02] <genii-around> Hi, with Muon upcoming, I'd like to update the !adept factoid for #kubuntu. What Kubuntu release is the last where Adept is default?
[15:02] <ScottK> genii-around: None that are supported.
[15:03] <ScottK> Jaunty, IIRC.
[15:03] <genii-around> OK, thanks. That factoid is pretty far out of date then!
[15:04] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'd suggest a repack for now that drops those files so we can get it in the archive and then someone consult with upstream on the licensing.
[15:05] <apachelogger> I do very much believe that renders the library useless
[15:05] <ScottK> Those aren't the only profiles.
[15:05] <ScottK> It's two out of several.
[15:05] <ScottK> Is it not useless enough to build other stuff?
[15:06] <apachelogger> just removing two because of the random character appearance seems bit, ehm, weird
[15:07] <yofel> I'll send Gilles Caulier a mail, he added them (I already did for something else)
[15:07] <apachelogger> where is that crap used anyway
[15:07] <apachelogger> G
[15:07]  * apachelogger needs to write a mail to kde-core-devel
[15:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/libkipi_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2
[15:08] <bambee> libkexiv2 last changes uploaded into kubuntu-ninjas :)
[15:08] <yofel> apachelogger: do that
[15:08] <apachelogger> ScottK: quite honestly I'd rather not upload the package and rip out eveyr part that uses it
[15:08] <bambee> (I've synced bzr and kubuntu-ninjas/ppa)
[15:08] <apachelogger> just to piss upstream off
[15:08] <yofel> bambee: ah thanks, I forgot that
[15:08] <bambee> yofel: yw
[15:08] <ScottK> apachelogger: Then let's have someone chat with upstream and leave it for the moment.
[15:09] <ScottK> apachelogger: Next bit of licensing fun: in libksane, what's the license for ksanetwain/twain.h?
[15:10] <bambee> apachelogger: I just need to upgrade my kde completly (I found a workaround finally) and then I will fix that
[15:14] <ScottK> Binaries for libkdeedu accepted.
[15:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: did you upload kturtle?
[15:18] <maco> ScottK: good news! cjwatson figured out the keyboard crashy thing!
[15:19] <ScottK> maco: Excellent.
[15:19] <ScottK> maco: Is the fix in then?
[15:19] <ScottK> okular accepted.
[15:20] <maco> ScottK: yes. i have a few bug reports in my inbox about crashes that occur on the page after the keyboard 
[15:21] <ScottK> Great.
[15:23] <ScottK> Konsole goes back a ways: debian/copyright:Copyright 1996 by Matthias Ettrich <ettrich@kde.org>
[15:23] <shadeslayer> i have a bunch of files which have [Copyright: <year> <name of author>] in tem
[15:23] <shadeslayer> s/tem/them/
[15:23] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "i have a bunch of files which have [Copyright: <year> <name of author>] in them"
[15:24] <shadeslayer> how does one document that using dep5 ?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> git blame them and find out author?
[15:25] <yofel> funny enough, those .icm profiles in libkdcraw have been there since 2007-09-19 and nobody cared about the copyright
[15:25] <ScottK> yofel: If you file a bug with upstream about the licensing being unclear, I'll accpet it.
[15:27] <yofel> filing
[15:27] <ScottK> konsole accepted.
[15:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: ^^^ libkdcraw sorted.
[15:29] <yofel> heh, no libkdcraw item in bugs.kde.org...
[15:29] <yofel> I'll put it under digikam then
[15:30] <yofel> ah right, that has the component
[15:32] <ScottK> yofel: libksane has an issue too.
[15:32] <ScottK> ksanetwain/twain.h is lacking it's license.
[15:33] <ScottK> looking at http://old.nabble.com/twain.h-in-kdegraphics-td26562538.html it should be http://www.twain.org/license.shtm
[15:33] <ScottK> Can you add that?
[15:33] <ScottK> apachelogger: ^^^ should go upstream too.
[15:34] <yofel> I can add it to both package and upstream after I'm done with libkdcraw
[15:34] <ScottK> Great.
[15:37] <ScottK> yofel: That'll need to be in debian/copyright too.
[15:37] <ScottK> libkdcraw accepted.
[15:37] <yofel> right
[15:38] <bambee> why does plasma-widgets-addons depend on libkexiv2-10 >= 4:4.5.90 ? o_O
[15:38]  * bambee fixes
[15:39] <bambee> aah
[15:40] <bambee> wait
[15:40] <yofel> bambee: won't matter much, libkexiv2-10 is only 4:4.6.90
[15:40] <bambee> xD
[15:40] <ScottK> libksane rejected (since it needs the license added)
[15:42] <yofel> ScottK: kde bug 277370
[15:42] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks.
[15:44] <yofel> ah good, COPYING.twain is in old kdegraphics
[15:45] <yofel> ScottK: uh.... COPYING.twain IS in libksane
[15:45] <ScottK> Oh.
[15:45] <yofel> just in the toplevel folder, not the ksanetwain/ one
[15:45] <yofel> but I need to fix the copyright file anyway
[15:46] <bambee> yofel: I found a workaround finally -> install kde-workspace by hand and then everything works fine :)
[15:46] <ScottK> OK.
[15:47] <ScottK> yofel: I'll leave it rejected then and wait for the next upload.
[15:47] <bambee> natty users should check the apt output , just in case, imho :\
[15:48] <yofel> bambee: it's not just that, rekonq etc. get removed, so we need to rebuild some things
[15:48] <yofel> or add some transitional packages
[15:48] <yofel> I added one for kdebase-runtime
[15:48] <bambee> right
[15:53] <shadeslayer> finally http://paste.ubuntu.com/640212/
[15:54] <yofel> shadeslayer: line 73 is broken, looks fine otherwise
[15:54] <yofel> although I do find it more readable if the full license copies are at the bottom
[15:56] <shadeslayer> yofel: any ideas how to handle the GPL license? line 114
[15:56] <ScottK> kalzium accepted.
[15:57] <yofel> shadeslayer: looks fine to me, and we do have a system copy of the gpl-1
[15:57] <shadeslayer> yofel: where?
[15:58] <yofel> base-files: /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-1
[15:58] <shadeslayer> i don't have it here 0.o
[15:58] <yofel> funny system you have ^^
[15:58] <shadeslayer> shadeslayer@saphira ~ » ls /usr/share/common-licenses                                                                                                                        1 ↵
[15:58] <shadeslayer> Apache-2.0  Artistic  BSD  GFDL  GFDL-1.2  GFDL-1.3  GPL  GPL-2  GPL-3  LGPL  LGPL-2  LGPL-2.1  LGPL-3
[15:58] <yofel> o.O
[15:58] <shadeslayer> and GPL is just a symlink to GPL-3
[15:59] <bambee> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kontact_4%3a4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[15:59] <bambee>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/kontact/ksettingsdialog/specialdates.setdlg', which is also in package korganizer 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[15:59] <ScottK> libkdcraw binaries accepted.
[15:59] <yofel> shadeslayer: is that fine? http://paste.kde.org/93523/
[15:59] <bambee> breaks/replaces   korganizer (<< 4:4.6.90)  :)
[15:59] <yofel> bambee: fixing
[16:00] <shadeslayer> funny license
[16:00] <yofel> isn't it? ^^
[16:00] <bambee> yofel: you mean, you're fixing it?
[16:00] <yofel> yes
[16:00] <bambee> ok
[16:00] <shadeslayer> looks good
[16:01] <ScottK> Why does konsole-dbg have /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/konsole?
[16:01] <yofel> what else should it have o.O?
[16:02] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/copyright fix twain copyright
[16:02] <ScottK> It's got the lib, but why does it have a copy of the executable.
[16:02] <yofel> apachelogger: please re-upload libksane
[16:02] <ScottK> IIRC dbg's don't normally duplicate the executable, just the debug lib.
[16:02] <yofel> ScottK: well... where should the debugging symbols of the executable be then?
[16:03] <apachelogger> my intarwebs exploded
[16:03] <yofel> ScottK: the have the /debugging symbols/ of the executable
[16:03] <ScottK> I guess.
[16:03] <ScottK> OK.
[16:04] <yofel> apachelogger: why are you even trying to download your intrawebs onto shadeslayers PC
[16:04] <apachelogger> prn sharing
[16:04] <ScottK> konsole binaries accepted.
[16:04] <apachelogger> so what did I miss?
[16:04] <ScottK> apachelogger: Please not with shadeslayer, his head will explode.
[16:04] <ScottK> apachelogger: You need to sponsor libksane.
[16:05] <apachelogger> what did change?
[16:05] <apachelogger> ah, twain
[16:05] <ScottK> Fixed debian/copyright
[16:05] <apachelogger> was wondering about that
[16:05] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 167 * debian/control kontact breaks/replaces korganizer << 4:4.6.80
[16:06] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 168 * debian/changelog forgot the changelog entry
[16:06] <yofel> ok, I'm gone for a while, bbl
[16:07] <CIA-52> [libksane] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708160721-x8cq90vxgjjvlo0c * releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[16:07] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:08] <apachelogger> ScottK: are you updating the wiki?
[16:08] <ScottK> apachelogger: No.
[16:08] <ScottK> Just grinding through the queue.
[16:08] <apachelogger> kk
[16:08] <apachelogger>   Uploading libksane_4.6.90-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[16:08] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[16:08] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/93541 \o/
[16:09] <ScottK> kamera source accepted.
[16:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: have you uploaded kturtle yet?
[16:10] <apachelogger> ScottK: dcraw is rejected or sitting in new?
[16:10] <ScottK> dcraw is accepted.
[16:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dunno, ask the wiki
[16:10] <apachelogger> or the branch
[16:10] <shadeslayer> wiki says "missing GFDL copy"
[16:10] <ScottK> apachelogger: My deal with yofel is he filed a bug with upstream bitching about the license.
[16:10] <apachelogger> oh, groovy
[16:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i gave you the new tarball a couple of hours ago
[16:11] <apachelogger> bambee: workspace is fixed?
[16:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did not revisit it yet
[16:11] <shadeslayer> k
[16:11] <shadeslayer> oh hmm, rocs might need symbols now
[16:12] <ScottK> kcolorchooser source accepted.
[16:12] <bambee> apachelogger: as I said, I upgrade to kde 4.6.90 first, then I will fix it
[16:12] <bambee> (don't worry it's into my todo list :P)
[16:12]  * apachelogger points out that it is a bit of a lbocker :P
[16:13] <bambee> apachelogger: well, I fix it now
[16:13] <ScottK> libksane source accepted.
[16:13] <apachelogger> ok, groovy
[16:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: Needs newer libindi in archives ..... did you package it?
[16:14] <bambee> I've just to revert refreshed patches ?
[16:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope
[16:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it builds fine without libindi, just a optional package
[16:14] <apachelogger> did you file a bug then?
[16:14] <apachelogger> and add it to a blueprint
[16:14] <shadeslayer> nope
[16:15] <shadeslayer> lemme finish rocs
[16:15] <shadeslayer> will come to that then
[16:15] <apachelogger> if you forget Quintasan will surely give you a beatin, he is in a beating mood these days
[16:16] <ScottK> shadeslayer: kbruch-dbg description needs fixing.
[16:16] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'll accept the package if you'll make sure it gets fixed after.
[16:17] <apachelogger> how is it broken?
[16:17] <ScottK> Description: debugging symbols for the KDE games module
[16:17] <apachelogger> ah, k
[16:17] <shadeslayer> one sec
[16:18] <shadeslayer> done
[16:18] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch] Rohan Garg * 8 * debian/control Fix description
[16:18] <ScottK> Source accepted.  Please don't forget.
[16:18] <shadeslayer> bah
[16:18] <apachelogger> added note to the wiki
[16:19] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch] Rohan Garg * 9 * debian/control Fix description, again.
[16:20] <ScottK> Is libkalzium supposed to install its headers in /usr/include/libkdeedu?
[16:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: GFDL copy missing for kwordquiz, if you get a chance
[16:21] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, it needs to for source compatibility
[16:21] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:21] <apachelogger> whether it has others too is arguable
[16:21] <apachelogger> s/has/should have/g
[16:21] <kubotu> apachelogger meant: "whether it should have others too is arguable"
[16:21] <ScottK> OK.  Is source compatibility is bug or a feature in KDE these days?
[16:22] <apachelogger> bug
[16:22] <apachelogger> besides
[16:22] <apachelogger> kalzium is not covered by source compatibility IIRC
[16:22] <apachelogger> only kdelibs and kdepimlibs, just like with ABI
[16:22] <ScottK> kalzium binaries accepted.
[16:24] <CIA-52> [kturtle] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708162417-3c0rasu0292p4ior * debian/changelog bump to repack
[16:26] <CIA-52> [kturtle] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708162603-xdk9onc5chjmhlyl * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[16:26] <ScottK> kanagram source accepted.
[16:27] <apachelogger> kturtle source in queue
[16:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think I've reviewed/accepted all the New source.  
[16:27] <ScottK> Oh.
[16:27] <ScottK> Looking
[16:27] <ScottK> Not there yet.
[16:27] <apachelogger> slow soyuz ^^
[16:28] <apachelogger> ScottK: was libkdeedu in new?
[16:28] <ScottK> Already accepted
[16:28] <apachelogger> k
[16:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindi/+bug/749820 << already there
[16:29] <shadeslayer> they have 0.8 now
[16:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: add to desktop-o-kubuntu-packaging
[16:30] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:30] <apachelogger> and take up an item to rebuild kstars with indi
[16:30] <apachelogger> also, does the bzr version of kstars build right now?
[16:32] <apachelogger> bambee: did you file a merge request for the fixed libkexiv2?
[16:32] <bambee> apachelogger: I just used the same packages rules :)
[16:33] <apachelogger> I do not understand
[16:33] <bambee> these rules are already into bzr
[16:33] <apachelogger> well
[16:33] <apachelogger> the symbols were kaput
[16:33] <apachelogger> not the rules
[16:34] <bambee> no I did not file a merge request yet
[16:34] <ScottK> apachelogger: Please look at src/interpreteradaptor.cpp and .h and tell me where those were generated from?
[16:34] <apachelogger> ScottK: dbus file
[16:34] <apachelogger> I gues s^^
[16:34] <ScottK> I'm trying to figure out the license.
[16:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: done
[16:34] <apachelogger> ScottK: kturtle?
[16:34] <ScottK> Yes.  Sorry.
[16:35] <apachelogger> ScottK: generated from a dbus introspection xml
[16:35] <apachelogger> no license, no copyright
[16:35] <ScottK> apachelogger: Sigh.  You know what that means ...
[16:35] <apachelogger> no
[16:36] <ScottK> No license, not distributable.
[16:36] <shadeslayer> ScottK: but its generated from XML files
[16:36] <shadeslayer> automagically using qdbusxml2cpp ....
[16:36] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Yes, but then that means it's effectively the binary.  Where's the source?
[16:36] <shadeslayer> looking
[16:37] <apachelogger> ScottK: seriously, by that reasoning the kdevelop file in there needs licensing too
[16:37] <apachelogger> and the lsm file
[16:37] <apachelogger> and the cmakelists.txt
[16:37] <apachelogger> and the readme
[16:37] <apachelogger> ...
[16:37] <shadeslayer> ScottK: src/interpreter/dbus_adaptor_generator.sh
[16:38] <apachelogger> nah
[16:38] <apachelogger> ScottK: src/interpreter/org.kde.kturtle.Interpreter.xml
[16:38] <apachelogger> that is the source
[16:38] <shadeslayer> there's also org.kde.kturtle.Interpreter.xml
[16:38] <apachelogger> "source"
[16:38] <ScottK> OK.
[16:38] <shadeslayer> well, i think thats what he was asking for ?
[16:38] <ScottK> It is.
[16:39] <ScottK> It would be better if we'd actually regenerate that file during the build, but I won't block on that.
[16:40] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think kturtle will FTBFS.  Spaces instead of tabs in debian/rules.
[16:40] <apachelogger> oh woosh
[16:40]  * apachelogger waves fist at kate
[16:41] <ScottK> Other than that it's fine.  I'll reject and you can reupload.
[16:41] <ScottK> Done.
[16:41] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/KpgvZ.png
[16:41] <apachelogger> vim is the nicest
[16:41] <ScottK> Yep.  That's exactly how I spotted it.
[16:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i agree on that point,  xml files should be converted to classes on build
[16:42] <CIA-52> [kturtle] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708164221-w0ednxuvn6k0co78 * debian/rules releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[16:42] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Please fix for the next upload then.
[16:42] <apachelogger> they are not converted!
[16:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i'll have a talk with upstream first
[16:42] <apachelogger> that is an adaptor
[16:42] <ScottK> OK.
[16:42] <shadeslayer> yes, and adaptors can be built during runtime
[16:42] <shadeslayer> s/can/should/
[16:42] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "yes, and adaptors should be built during runtime"
[16:43] <apachelogger> not necessarily
[16:44] <apachelogger> there is plenty of reasons for not generating an adaptor at build time
[16:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: like?
[16:44] <apachelogger> whether any good are behind the kturtle case is the question
[16:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: fatness, internal api limition, adaptor expansion beyond the marked up API, subset support of dbus api....
[16:45] <Quintasan> yofel: How is 4.6.5?
[16:45] <apachelogger> in particular I'd argue that such stuff never ever should be generated at build time as it could have unpredictable effects
[16:45] <shadeslayer> ah, yes, i forgot you can extend the generated class
[16:46] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think that's exactly why it should be generated.
[16:46] <apachelogger> like suddently you have one gigantic security whole because the adaptor generator messed up
[16:46] <ScottK> OK.  Let me know when kturtle's up again.
[16:47] <shadeslayer> rocs is done, just pushing bzr, would someone like to review?
[16:48] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/rocs] Rohan Garg * 1 * (10 files in 3 dirs) Initial Packaging for rocs
[16:48]  * apachelogger is going to bed in a bi
[16:48] <apachelogger> t
[16:49] <Quintasan> yofel: Trying upgrade to 4.6.5
[16:50] <ScottK> debfx: Can you take over from apachelogger on reviewing stuff to upload?  I can't both upload and be archive admin for stuff.
[16:50] <Quintasan> yofel: no breakage in deps :P
[16:51] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/rocs] Rohan Garg * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) Use repacked tarball with GFDL-1.2 Licensing
[16:51] <yofel> re, reading backlog (and didn't test 4.6.5 yet)
[16:53] <bambee> well... why is it possible to apply patches with quilt push and not with debuild -S ? o_O
[16:53] <bambee> s/why/how/
[16:53] <kubotu> bambee meant: "well... how is it possible to apply patches with quilt push and not with debuild -S ? o_O"
[16:54] <yofel> bambee: what's the error?
[16:54] <shadeslayer> bambee: yeah happens
[16:54] <shadeslayer> refresh them?
[16:55] <CIA-52> [kde-baseapps] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708165541-q9lggn52p8dsqsey * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[16:56] <yofel> oh right, I needed to add meta packages
[16:56] <yofel> toomuchtodo
[16:57]  * apachelogger has no idea what he uploaded already
[16:57] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:58] <shadeslayer> rocs: DONE
[16:58] <apachelogger> ScottK: kturtle and kde-baseapps (former kdebase) should be in new in a few minutes
[16:58] <shadeslayer> i'll bbiab
[16:58] <ScottK> OK.
[17:00] <apachelogger> wiki timoeut
[17:00] <apachelogger> yay
[17:00] <yofel> FOLKS: kde 4.6.5 natty needs testing in kubuntu-ppa/staging
[17:01] <apachelogger> uhh
[17:02] <apachelogger> I forgot to create copyright for kde-wallpapers
[17:02]  * apachelogger embargos
[17:02] <ScottK> apachelogger: You uploaded kturtle twice?
[17:02] <apachelogger> ScottK: possibly, they are the same though
[17:03] <ScottK> OK.
[17:03]  * apachelogger didn't remember whether he uploaded already
[17:03] <ScottK> OK.  One accepted.  One rejected.
[17:04] <CIA-52> [kdeaccessibility] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708170442-xj8cviu1s0f0i76l * debian/changelog remove unreleased (now useless) changelog entry
[17:07] <CIA-52> [kdeaccessibility] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708170714-xgnzucvxl5rpyvif * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[17:08] <ScottK> apachelogger: For kde-baseapps, kdepasswd/passwd.h is MIT.  It's not reject material, since MIT is in debian/copyright, but it should be fixed.
[17:09]  * apachelogger blames debian :P
[17:09] <ScottK> kde-baseapps accepted.
[17:10] <apachelogger> note added to wiki
[17:11] <CIA-52> [kalgebra] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708171145-4l0y81znyu7xpvmk * debian/TODO.source remove todo left over from kdeedu
[17:12] <CIA-52> [kalgebra] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708171231-ywgo2f7ec9a929d0 * debian/source/lintian-overrides remove old kdeedu lintian-overrides
[17:13] <CIA-52> [kalgebra] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708171308-q3814f3txc3e907s * debian/control bump kde-sc-dev-latest to .90
[17:13] <ScottK> libksane-data seems like overkill.
[17:14] <ScottK> Accepting anyway.
[17:14] <yofel> I wasn't sure whether to add it or not...
[17:14] <yofel> added it in the end
[17:14] <apachelogger> and the winner is.....
[17:14] <apachelogger> yofel: 
[17:15] <apachelogger> >>> basename `pwd` && grep -r legal doc
[17:15] <apachelogger> kalgebra-4.6.90+repack
[17:15] <apachelogger> doc/index.docbook:<legalnotice>&FDLNotice;</legalnotice>
[17:15] <yofel> *SIGH*
[17:15] <apachelogger> not mentioned in copyright and copy missing
[17:15] <ScottK> kcolorchooser binaries accepted.
[17:15] <yofel> fising
[17:15] <yofel> -.-
[17:15] <yofel> *fixing
[17:16] <ScottK> kamera binaries accepted.
[17:17] <apachelogger> yofel: cmake/FindReadline.cmake has no license
[17:17] <apachelogger> yet apple sez it is bsd
[17:17] <apachelogger> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/pcre/pcre-4.1/pcre/cmake/FindReadline.cmake
[17:18] <ScottK> kbruch binaries accepted.
[17:19] <yofel> apachelogger: well, in kdeedu it was with the other ones together with the COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS
[17:19] <apachelogger> emit yawn(HippoYawn);
[17:19] <apachelogger> yofel: hence my suspicion ;)
[17:19] <yofel> apachelogger: can I just add the file or should I bash upstream for missing copyright?
[17:19] <apachelogger> I am sure that should be BSD licensed
[17:19] <ScottK> kanagram binaries accepted.
[17:19] <yofel> k
[17:20] <apachelogger> otherwise kde-builsystem will come after apol
[17:20] <yofel> heh
[17:20] <apachelogger> 465 upgrade successful
[17:21] <ScottK> kturtle binaries accepted.
[17:22] <CIA-52> [ksaneplugin] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708172151-orlt7m0txdgkaq1i * debian/control do not overspecify kdelibs5-dev builddep as kde-sc-dev-latest takes care of that
[17:24] <apachelogger> ScottK: would you reject a package that neglects to mention that cmake/* is BSD
[17:24] <apachelogger> in debian/copyright
[17:25] <apachelogger> ?
[17:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I do very much think that aligning packaging license with the primary license of the upstream source is a good idea
[17:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: mostly everything was GPL-2+ till now
[17:26] <shadeslayer> any package in particular that you think is wrong?
[17:26] <apachelogger> ksaneplugin is all LGPL-2.1+ except for your packaging :P
[17:26] <yofel> apachelogger: and how do you LINK to packaging?
[17:26] <ScottK> apachelogger: If it's got BSD in debian/copyright somewhere, no.
[17:26] <apachelogger> there was anoter package I noticed this with
[17:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: doesn't
[17:26] <yofel> LGPL only mkaes sense for libraries
[17:26] <yofel> otherwise it's nonsense
[17:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: please update debian/copyright of ksaneplugin to mentin cmake/* 
[17:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: Probably.
[17:27] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:27] <ScottK> (unless of course I missed it)
[17:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: kwordquiz GFDL licensing added
[17:27] <apachelogger> yofel: why is that?
[17:27] <apachelogger> yofel: also what do you mean with linking?
[17:27] <shadeslayer> ( in git that is )
[17:28] <yofel> apachelogger: did you ever bother to read what the difference is...?
[17:28] <apachelogger> lgpl and gpl?
[17:29] <yofel> yeah
[17:29] <apachelogger> what you need to keep in mind is that code that is in an application could very well be useful in a library
[17:29] <yofel> ok, and how does that affect the packaging?
[17:30] <apachelogger> well
[17:30] <apachelogger> here is the thing
[17:30] <yofel> (EXCEPT patches)
[17:30] <apachelogger> well, except patches not at all :P
[17:30] <yofel> k, I'm listening...
[17:30] <apachelogger> then again what else would you be licensing?
[17:30] <yofel> uh... debian/rules? :D
[17:31] <apachelogger> at the point where debian/rules contains logic that is worth licensing it is a) highly specific and thus useless to anything but the package at hand b) should be moved into a general makefile (which would then be a library in a way :P)
[17:32] <ScottK> Looks like I'm caught up again.
[17:32] <apachelogger> at any rate you'd want to be in line with upstream's perferred license, so that upstream can adopt patches without your involvement at all
[17:33] <apachelogger> though ultimately of course you'd state that all patches are condition to the license of the file they change
[17:33] <yofel> ah well, I don't care enough about it to argue with you
[17:33] <yofel> I'll do it your way then
[17:33] <apachelogger> just a suggestion :P
[17:33] <apachelogger> you can do it however the flip you want
[17:34] <yofel> well, it's not like it doesn't make sense
[17:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i think the license is BSD-4 clause
[17:34] <shadeslayer> not 3 clause
[17:34] <apachelogger> count the numbas
[17:34] <apachelogger> I think it is 3
[17:34] <apachelogger> but I did not look
[17:34] <shadeslayer> oh nvm
[17:34] <shadeslayer> yes its 3 clause
[17:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whom should i attribute the copyright too?
[17:34] <apachelogger> ScottK: what package would you like to get? cause I am running low on material that is properly licensed and not packaged by me
[17:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: lord vader
[17:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: unkown
[17:35] <apachelogger> doesn't matter
[17:35] <apachelogger> though
[17:35] <ScottK> apachelogger: You can upload stuff packaged by you.
[17:35] <apachelogger> you could probably check gitty
[17:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i put the file there :P
[17:35] <apachelogger> ScottK: yeah, but I do not want to
[17:35] <shadeslayer> fixed it for neon long ago
[17:35] <ScottK> apachelogger: Whatever's ready.  I've got plenty of $WORK to do in the meantime.
[17:35] <apachelogger> ScottK: didn't do enough packaging to trust myself enough on this
[17:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so where did you steal it?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> from SVN
[17:36] <apachelogger> so go look who added it there
[17:36] <apachelogger> ah parley
[17:36] <apachelogger> fregl: we are now going to break parley in kubuntu :P :P :P
[17:36] <shadeslayer> where was ksaneplugin from
[17:37] <shadeslayer> i can't remember :S
[17:37] <yofel> kdegraphics
[17:37] <yofel> I believe
[17:37] <yofel> apachelogger: what's so important about parley? ^^
[17:37] <apachelogger> it was one of the first apps we fluffied up
[17:38] <yofel> ohmy
[17:39] <shadeslayer> lol move FindKSane.cmake (for ksaneplugin) to kdegraphics
[17:39] <bambee> gtk-update-icon-cache has been droped?
[17:39] <shadeslayer> hmm .. added by sars
[17:39] <bambee> "/usr/sbin/update-icon-caches: 24: gtk-update-icon-cache: not found"
[17:41] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I am honored to be the one to notify you that you have won in the lottery
[17:41] <apachelogger> >>> basename `pwd` && grep -r legal doc   
[17:41] <apachelogger> parley-4.6.90+repack
[17:41] <apachelogger> doc/index.docbook:<legalnotice>&FDLNotice;</legalnotice>
[17:41] <apachelogger> Quintasan: please be fixing parley
[17:42] <yofel> he haz no dev acc. I'll do the upstream fixing
[17:43] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ./src/modeltest/modeltest.* is gpl2 without+
[17:46] <CIA-52> [rocs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708174629-yhesrz181fap53n0 * debian/ (control rules) newline at eof
[17:47] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/copyright fix copyright
[17:48] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ksaneplugin] Rohan Garg * 6 * debian/copyright Fix copyright
[17:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: rocs is missing a copy of the LGPL
[17:50] <apachelogger> and while you are at it, cmake/... is not mentioned in copyright
[17:50] <yofel> uh... parley is missing more than just the docs license copy
[17:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: none of the items you clame are License: GPL are really GPL
[17:51] <yofel> bah, why do people have to invent their own license header style
[17:51] <apachelogger> they are all GPL-2
[17:51] <apachelogger> yofel: to annoy others
[17:51] <yofel> indeed
[17:51] <apachelogger> also artistic creativity or something
[17:52] <yofel> then they should use the artistic license or something
[17:52] <apachelogger> fun
[17:52] <apachelogger> rocs is funfunfun
[17:52] <apachelogger> there is a class where the header is GPL and the cpp is LGPL
[17:54] <fregl> apachelogger: why do you want to break that little parley thingy?
[17:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: >>> basename `pwd` && grep -r legal doc
[17:54] <apachelogger> rocs-4.6.90+repack
[17:54] <apachelogger> doc/index.docbook:<legalnotice>&FDLNotice;</legalnotice>
[17:54] <apachelogger> fregl: cause you dunno how to license your software properly :P
[17:55] <apachelogger> yofel: go get him
[17:55] <yofel> bwahahahha
[17:55] <apachelogger> I recommend bamboo for whipping
[17:55] <yofel> nah, enough upstream bashing for today, I'll leave the fun to you ^^
[17:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ah, nvm I did forget that I saw a copying.doc while digging around in src/ ^^
[17:56] <fregl> apachelogger: isn't it just the git splitting stuffs? or is it more messy than just missing a gpl?
[17:56] <apachelogger> I only saw a missing FDL copy for the docs yofel knows more
[17:56]  * apachelogger embargos rocs
[17:56] <yofel> copy of the GPL is missing too
[17:56] <yofel> GPL-2
[17:57] <yofel> but seems to be only those 2
[17:57] <apachelogger> eh
[17:57] <apachelogger> I see a COPYING
[17:57] <yofel> uh, sec
[17:58] <apachelogger> >>> basename `pwd` && head -n2 COPYING 
[17:58] <apachelogger> parley-4.6.90+repack
[17:58] <apachelogger>                     GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
[17:58] <apachelogger>                        Version 2, June 1991
[17:58] <yofel> ok, but that's not from upstream
[17:58] <yofel> no COPYING in git
[17:59] <apachelogger> oh, you did not upstream for Quintasan then :P
[18:00] <yofel> fixing
[18:00] <apachelogger> G
[18:00] <yofel> apachelogger: kalgebra needs re-review
[18:00] <apachelogger> kde4libs is still building on arm
[18:00] <apachelogger> Started 12 hours ago
[18:00] <apachelogger> dpkg-deb: building package `kdelibs5-dbg' in `../kdelibs5-dbg_4.6.90-0ubuntu1_armel.deb'.
[18:00] <apachelogger> I blame it all on this
[18:01] <yofel> and it's not even using lzma ^^
[18:01] <apachelogger> which is a bug
[18:01] <yofel> it is?
[18:01] <yofel> we're esp. exluding armel from lzma
[18:01] <apachelogger> I know
[18:01] <apachelogger> that is the bug
[18:01] <apachelogger> we actually could improve the heuristics a bit
[18:02] <apachelogger> get size of debian/tmp
[18:02] <apachelogger> if >10 do not use lzma on armel
[18:02] <apachelogger> that would lzma all the now split packages
[18:02] <yofel> that defies the point IMO
[18:02] <apachelogger> which is better than nothing
[18:02] <apachelogger> yofel: why is that?
[18:02] <yofel> ah k
[18:02] <yofel> nah, that sounds reasonable
[18:03] <apachelogger> you still have 50% space saving, just distributed across more packages ^^
[18:03] <apachelogger> and by setting an appropriate max size for lzma application we can prevent timeouts on arm
[18:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok so whats wrong with rocs? i kept disconnecting
[18:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: see wiki
[18:03] <apachelogger> copying stuff of course
[18:04]  * apachelogger ponders getting a beer before going to bed
[18:04] <shadeslayer> alright
[18:04] <yofel> parley fixed in git
[18:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: license check says its GPL
[18:04] <apachelogger> yofel: did you not upload a new kalgebra to ppa or somewhere?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> s/says/said/
[18:04] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "apachelogger: license check said its GPL"
[18:04]  * apachelogger forgot the issue ayway ^^
[18:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: how much I care -><-
[18:05] <yofel> apachelogger: [PPA kubuntu-ninjas] [ubuntu/oneiric] kalgebra	4:4.6.90+repack1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 (Accepted)
[18:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: BROTIP: if licensecheck sez GPL you better be checking
[18:05] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:05] <apachelogger> yofel: but no changelog update in bzr?
[18:05] <yofel> ah nope
[18:05] <yofel> forgot -.-
[18:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if it can match GNU Genereal Public License but nothing else matches its templates it will just say it is GPL
[18:06] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/changelog repack again
[18:06] <apachelogger> a quick look at head -n5 usually shows the exact version
[18:06]  * shadeslayer will keep in mind
[18:08] <apachelogger> yofel: I see no copying.doc? :(
[18:09] <yofel> kalgebra-4.6.90+repack1 $ ls
[18:09] <yofel> analitza  analitzagui  calgebra  cmake  CMakeLists.txt  config-kalgebra.h.cmake  COPYING  COPYING.DOC  COPYING.LIB  debian  doc  icons  Mainpage.dox  Messages.sh  mobile  plasmoid  src  TODO  utils
[18:09] <apachelogger> oh
[18:09] <apachelogger> wrong dirz
[18:09] <apachelogger> yofel: sry
[18:09] <yofel> ^^
[18:09]  * apachelogger should really stop looking at the screen
[18:09] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:09] <apachelogger> did do wicked video paintaing already today ^^
[18:10] <apachelogger> highly magic
[18:10] <apachelogger> yofel: looks good now
[18:10] <yofel> :D
[18:10] <CIA-52> [kalgebra] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708181057-k92ng8mnf1dz7t7i * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack1-0ubuntu1
[18:11]  * yofel goes fixing kwordquiz
[18:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: kalgebra arriving in a bit
[18:12] <ScottK> K
[18:13] <yofel> ah, shadeslayer added gfdl for kwordquiz, thx
[18:13] <shadeslayer> yus
[18:13] <apachelogger> perhaps Quintasan or debfx can continue with uploading
[18:13] <apachelogger> most of the stuff that I did not do is either up or blocked
[18:13] <apachelogger> also all of non-split is still left
[18:14] <yofel> kdeplasma-addons is blocked by me going on a crusade for marble licensing
[18:20] <Quintasan> yofel, apachelogger, ScottK: Update to 4.6.5 in Natty woks here
[18:20] <yofel> add to wiki
[18:20] <ScottK> Cool
[18:21] <yofel> if there's no problems I'll publish before going to bed
[18:21] <ScottK> Quintasan: Once it's baked in the PPA for a few weeks we can push it to -proposed.
[18:22] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwordquiz] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog copyright) fix docs copyright
[18:22] <yofel> apachelogger: ^
[18:25] <ScottK> kalgebra source accepted.
[18:28] <ScottK> Why does kde-baseapps depend on kde-baseapps-bin?  Shouldn't that get pulled in by any app that needs it?
[18:29] <ScottK> kde-baseapps accepted, but someone please look at that.
[18:30] <yofel> ScottK: kde-baseapps is a metapackage?
[18:30] <ScottK> Yes, but shouldn't it be a metapackage of apps?
[18:31] <yofel> dunno, I just renamed that, kdebase did the same thing
[18:31] <ScottK> OK
[18:31] <ScottK> Anyway, all the KDE stuff it out of New.
[18:42] <Quintasan> ScottK: Good idea
[18:42] <Quintasan> apachelogger: uploading what where and are there any special things I need to know before uploading?
[18:42] <apachelogger> 4.7 packages to oneiric
[18:42] <apachelogger> peferrably those that are new
[18:43] <apachelogger> those need pretty much a revu kind of review
[18:43] <shadeslayer> i'll have rocs ready in a couple of minutes btw
[18:43] <yofel> Quintasan: you can upload kwordquiz
[18:43] <yofel> (repack1)
[18:43] <apachelogger> especially beware licensing foo, to make ScottK's job easier
[18:43] <ScottK> Please.
[18:44] <Quintasan> yofel: Upload as in "it's ready, run dput" or "check it over 9000 times before dputting?"
[18:44] <yofel> run dput, apachelogger already checked it
[18:44] <apachelogger> Quintasan: common pitfalls: no fdl copy, doc/ not mentioned in copyright file, no cmake copying file or cmake stuff not mentioned in copyright file
[18:45]  * yofel forgot what he wanted to do next...
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/rocs_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2 << rocs repacked from there and packaging from bze
[18:46] <shadeslayer> s/bze/bzr/
[18:46] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "Quintasan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/rocs_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2 << rocs repacked from there and packaging from bzr"
[18:47] <shadeslayer> ok now i have to look at my GSoC project, ciao everyone
[18:48]  * Quintasan enters "triple-check" mode
[18:49] <shadeslayer> M-x triple-check-mode
[18:49] <apachelogger> I am kuput(tm)
[18:50] <yofel> :set triple-check-mode
[18:50] <Quintasan> yofel++
[18:50] <apachelogger> ScottK++
[18:50] <apachelogger> yofel: how is that blog post coming along
[18:52] <yofel> still blank
[18:54] <bambee> apachelogger: kde-workspace uploaded, sorry I was away
[18:55] <yofel> anyone else going to test 4.6.5?
[18:55] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ^ that needs super review btw
[18:55] <apachelogger> there was some stuff wrong with the patches and stuff
[18:57] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Should I do anything with kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.6.90) or leave it like that?
[18:57] <apachelogger> must be like that
[18:57] <Quintasan> Okay. Uploading kwordquiz
[18:59] <Quintasan> It looks like 4.6.5 is shipping with a KCalc regression due to a faulty commit
[18:59] <Quintasan>  which has already been reverted, can we please have a kdeutils respin with the
[18:59] <Quintasan>  faulty commit reverted?
[18:59] <Quintasan> WHAT?
[19:00] <Quintasan> no shit
[19:00] <Quintasan> It's true
[19:00] <Quintasan> Doesn't work
[19:00] <CIA-52> [grantlee] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110708190031-a8aybb3db7om02w0 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) Cleanup debian-changes patch
[19:00] <Quintasan> apachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256591#c43 <<--- that broke KCalc
[19:00] <ScottK> Quintasan: Patch it and move on.
[19:01] <Quintasan> kde rev 1235446
[19:02]  * Quintasan patches
[19:04] <yofel> heh, broken in rc1 too
[19:07] <shadeslayer> hmm .. i might have broken rocs
[19:07] <shadeslayer> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=rocs.git&a=commit&h=e6e0325b5b9505af9c927bb0ffa9dd9640d107c0
[19:08] <shadeslayer> yofel: can you have a look at that ? ^^
[19:08] <yofel> wtf?
[19:08] <shadeslayer> yeah, i did a git pull and since i have rebase on pull, i thought it would automagically rebase
[19:08] <shadeslayer> don't know what went wrong
[19:09] <ScottK> kwordquiz source accepted.
[19:09] <Quintasan> ScottK: Cool \o/
[19:09] <ScottK> kalgebra binaries accepted.
[19:10] <shadeslayer> yofel: well, theres this : http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=rocs.git&a=commit&h=2ba2124b8f7f335d8bbfa314b831a19a255b2a0e
[19:10] <shadeslayer> which means the only thing that went wrong was the merge part
[19:10] <Quintasan> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/93619 <-- that apparently should fix KCalc
[19:10] <Quintasan> building and testing
[19:10] <yofel> well, you added a ton of comments
[19:11] <yofel> aks Povaddict how to revert that
[19:11] <yofel> *ask
[19:11] <shadeslayer> i did?
[19:11] <shadeslayer> yofel: thats from scripty
[19:11] <shadeslayer> yofel: see http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=rocs.git&a=commit&h=2ba2124b8f7f335d8bbfa314b831a19a255b2a0e
[19:12] <yofel> I was running 'git diff 730c5cbf..e6e0325' as it's commit e6e0325b5b9505af9c927bb0ffa9dd9640d107c0 Merge: 730c5cb 2ba2124 in the log
[19:12] <bambee> apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/67385 :D
[19:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: and you're adding some comments from master in 4.7 it seems (translations)
[19:14] <yofel> or I'm understanding the diff wrong
[19:20] <yofel> git is seriously confusing...
[19:20] <shadeslayer> yus
[19:20] <shadeslayer> and equally powerfull
[19:20] <yofel> true, and nice ascii art :P
[19:20] <shadeslayer> s/powerfull/powerful
[19:20] <shadeslayer> ha :P
[19:21]  * shadeslayer needs to meddle with git configs again now
[19:22] <yofel> the ascii art for the kernel is fun, with intersections and stuff
[19:26] <shadeslayer> :O
[19:26] <shadeslayer> it seems i'm out of midnight snacks
[19:27] <shadeslayer> all i have is iced tea ....  :<
[19:33] <Quintasan_> yofel: That patch works
[19:33] <Quintasan_> uploading ~ppa2 to staging
[19:33] <Quintasan_> THAT being kcalc magic
[19:34] <yofel_> good :)
[19:36] <Quintasan> Bah, kwordquiz failed on armel
[19:37] <yofel> tonz of stuff failed on armel
[19:37] <yofel> tell me how to get a armel QEMU vm and I'll help with fixing
[19:37] <Quintasan> yofel: kde-sc-dev-latest : Breaks: kdelibs5-dev (< 4:4.6.90) but 4:4.6.3-2ubuntu2 is to be installed
[19:37] <yofel> ah ^^
[19:41] <shadeslayer> i need to setup one of those myself
[19:41] <yofel> there was a wiki page explaining that for like lucid, but I didn't get that to even boot
[19:42] <shadeslayer> postponed for tmrrw
[19:43] <ScottK> kde4libs only recently finished on armel
[19:43] <Quintasan> Oh
[19:43] <Quintasan> I see
[19:44] <Quintasan> ScottK: Can I retry those builds or one needs some special magical power to retry?
[19:46] <micahg> Quintasan: ubuntu-build can do it if you have upload rights
[19:48] <Quintasan> micahg: kwordquiz apparently does not exist
[19:48] <Quintasan> :S
[19:49] <Quintasan> I'm pretty sure that I have upload rights since I uploaded that package to archive
[19:51] <Quintasan> micahg: Any ideas?
[19:52] <micahg> Quintasan: you can always trigger it from the LP interface of the build record
[19:52] <Quintasan> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwordquiz/4:4.6.90+repack1-0ubuntu1/+build/2616392
[19:52] <Quintasan> I do not have an option to retry there :S
[19:52] <micahg> that's a bug then :)
[19:53] <yofel> try adding /+retry to the URL ^^
[19:53] <Quintasan> Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.
[19:55] <micahg> weird, no uploaders in the LP DB for it
[19:55] <Quintasan> :/
[19:55] <ScottK> Quintasan: It's probably not in the packageset yet.
[19:56] <micahg> right
[19:56]  * micahg wonders why though since it's old
[19:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: uploaded new rocs?
[19:56] <ScottK> New source.
[19:56] <Quintasan> yofel: >godzilla came over it
[19:56] <Quintasan> yofel: WTF?
[19:56] <micahg> ah, right
[19:57] <yofel> Quintasan: YOU ADDED THAT
[19:57] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[19:57] <micahg> Quintasan: so, you could upload because you're MOTU, but once it was promoted to main, you lost rights to it
[19:57] <Quintasan> I did not
[19:57] <Quintasan> yofel: ^
[19:57] <shadeslayer> probably apachelogger in that case
[19:58] <Quintasan> ScottK: Doesn't Kubuntu Developer grant me access to kubuntu seed in main?
[19:58] <ScottK> It's more complicated that that.
[19:58] <apachelogger> this is youbuntoo after all
[19:58] <Quintasan> Oh I see.
[19:58] <ScottK> Mostly, but there's a script cjwatson has to run to update stuff.
[19:58] <Quintasan> :D
[19:59] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: kate 4.6.90 	Natty
[19:59] <Quintasan> wut?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: where?
[19:59] <ScottK> Where did libkipi go?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> and kate is currently kaput, please do not upload
[19:59] <Quintasan> ScottK: How often cjwatson runs this magical script?
[19:59] <ScottK> Dunno
[19:59] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: in ninjas
[19:59] <ScottK> Was someone fixing it?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ah right, thats my mistake
[20:00] <shadeslayer> but i'm not doing any packaging right now ...
[20:00] <Quintasan> apachelogger: kde-runtime <-- Y U NO IN ARCHIVE?
[20:00] <yofel> Quintasan: ok, sorry, it was apachelogger
[20:01] <Quintasan> yofel: You have to teach me l10n magic someday
[20:01] <yofel> read the wiki, not much to do
[20:01] <Quintasan> wiki?
[20:02] <Quintasan> We have wiki on l10n?
[20:02] <yofel> apachelogger: a l10n question though - why are you fetching stuff from svn for l10n?
[20:02] <shadeslayer> yes
[20:02] <yofel> Quintasan: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide
[20:02] <ScottK> Quintasan: okular needs reuploading without the libchm-dev build-dep.
[20:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/67385 <-- I kinda guess we want to merge that before uploading anything
[20:03] <apachelogger> right you are
[20:03] <apachelogger> yofel: where else would it be from
[20:03] <apachelogger> Quintasan: do not do l10n yet though
[20:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: No kate upload, no fixored libkipi, and okular needs fixing.
[20:03] <apachelogger> I have some modifications for that
[20:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I was not even planning on that
[20:04] <Quintasan> ScottK: Getting to it
[20:04] <yofel> apachelogger: what are the kde-l10n tarballs for then?
[20:04] <ScottK> Great.
[20:04] <ScottK> I mashed the retry button on a bunch of armel stuff.
[20:04] <apachelogger> yofel: to quote ScottK "it's more complicated than that"
[20:04] <apachelogger> and to quote myself "this is youbuntoo after all"
[20:04] <yofel> -.-
[20:05] <bambee> "kdmgreet(1274) KdmPixmap::definePixmap: Cannot find wallpaper "Horos"
[20:05] <bambee> kdm starts without wallpapers
[20:05] <bambee> except this problem everything works fine ! :)
[20:05] <bambee> (I am talking about kde 4.6.90)
[20:05] <Quintasan> bambee: I will be looking at kde-workspace merge soon so prepare yourself :P
[20:06] <yofel> bambee: you haz no kde-wallpapers installed
[20:06] <yofel> a bit huge dep for kdm though...
[20:06] <apachelogger> eh
[20:06] <apachelogger> hold on
[20:06] <bambee> yofel: mhhhh good point
[20:06] <apachelogger> kdm should have stripes.pn
[20:06] <apachelogger> g
[20:06] <apachelogger> at least it is in workspace IIRC
[20:06] <apachelogger> so something must be fishy on our end
[20:06] <yofel> itis
[20:07] <yofel> true, it does
[20:07] <Quintasan> ScottK: Fixed okular uploaded.
[20:07] <ScottK> Cool.
[20:08]  * bambee is afraid of Quintasan :P
[20:09] <Quintasan> bambee: Does 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa5 upload contain the same fixes you did in bzr?
[20:09] <bambee> Quintasan: exactly the same yes
[20:09] <bambee> without the revision :)
[20:09]  * Quintasan testbuilds anyways
[20:09] <Quintasan> Better safe than sorry and waiting on LP
[20:10] <bambee> np :)
[20:11] <Quintasan> Rejected:
[20:11] <Quintasan> Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a series in the 'CURRENT' state.
[20:11] <Quintasan> ScottK: ^ ?
[20:12] <ScottK> Quintasan: Did you bump the version?
[20:12] <Quintasan> okular_4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu2_source.changes
[20:12] <ScottK> Needs to be ubuntu2 also you may have uploaded to natty
[20:12] <Quintasan> Hmm
[20:12]  * Quintasan looks
[20:13] <Quintasan> ...
[20:13] <Quintasan> dch YEAH
[20:13] <bambee> apachelogger: your nightmare http://the-space-station.com/2011/7/8/python-on-iphone-ipad :D
[20:13] <bambee> :P
[20:13] <bambee> (python+ apple)
[20:13] <Quintasan> ScottK: That was natty @_@
[20:13] <ScottK> "series in the 'CURRENT' state" means Natty,.
[20:14]  * Quintasan updates devscripts
[20:15] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Patches now apply correctly, merging
[20:17] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Question: When merging something, what should be said in commit message? I see pending merges: blah blah in the ignored section
[20:18] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I will be deleting the natty stuff you pushed into ninjas
[20:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: feel free to
[20:18] <Quintasan> ScottK: Now I'm not permitted to upload to main
[20:18] <Quintasan> :/
[20:18] <ScottK> Ah.  Packageset thing.
[20:18] <ScottK> Put it somewhere and I'll upload.
[20:21] <micahg> Quintasan: you can upload to the kubuntu packageset in main
[20:21] <Quintasan> ScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/okular_4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu2_source.changes.tar.gz
[20:22] <Quintasan> micahg: okular is apparently not there :)
[20:22] <ScottK> Quintasan: A link to the .dsc would be much easier
[20:22] <micahg> well, anything that was broken out into new sources won't be in the packageset until the magic is done
[20:22] <Quintasan> ScottK: Made a mental note to self
[20:23] <Quintasan> apachelogger: kde-workspace merged
[20:23] <Quintasan> bambee: ^
[20:23] <Quintasan> Looks good and works too
[20:24] <yofel> hm wait
[20:24] <Quintasan> Huh?
[20:24] <yofel> is bzr up-to-date? need to check something in workspace
[20:24] <Quintasan> I just pushed the merge
[20:25] <bambee> Quintasan: thanks
[20:25] <Quintasan> yofel: Throw bricks at me if that broke something
[20:25] <yofel> ok, bzr is fine, I probably didn't refresh the package in ppa
[20:25] <bambee> yofel: I have synced bzr and kubuntu-ninjas/ppa
[20:26] <yofel> nah, was looking if a breaks/replaces I added was there
[20:26] <bambee> everything is okay now
[20:26] <bambee> I added it ;)
[20:26] <ScottK> Quintasan: Uploaded.
[20:26] <bambee> yofel: the breaks/replaces for kde-workspace-data ?
[20:26] <yofel> right
[20:26] <bambee> added
[20:26] <yofel> good
[20:26] <Quintasan> ScottK: Thanks
[20:26] <yofel> Quintasan: go ahead
[20:26] <ScottK> Quintasan: Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[20:27] <ScottK> cmake 2.8.5 is out.
[20:29] <Quintasan> hmm
[20:29] <micahg> well, no one fixed the FTBFS for the version currently in the archive
[20:29] <Quintasan> # list-missing files result:
[20:29] <Quintasan> -./usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasmascript.py
[20:29] <Quintasan> -./usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasmascript.pyc
[20:29] <Quintasan> bambee: ^
[20:30] <ScottK> Quintasan: Normal for Python stuff that gets moved by the Debian Python build system stuff.
[20:30] <Quintasan> Okay
[20:31] <ScottK> Make sure there's no .pyc in the final .deb though.
[20:31] <ScottK> That's "bad".
[20:31] <Quintasan> ScottK: It's not in install files
[20:31] <Quintasan> So it does not get installed hopefully
[20:31] <ScottK> Quintasan: Use debc *.changes to check.
[20:31] <ScottK> (for the binary .changes file)
[20:32] <ScottK> Okular building now.
[20:33] <Quintasan> bambee: Good, no pyc inside :P
[20:34] <bambee> hehe thanks to debian/not-installed :D
[20:34] <bambee> Quintasan: these files are installed
[20:34] <bambee> except the pyc
[20:34] <bambee> see the install files
[20:35] <bambee> (there is a usr/lib/python*/site-packages/PyKDE4 somewhere)
[20:36] <bambee> Quintasan: it's not in the install file? what?
[20:37] <Quintasan> bambee: We DO NOT want *.pyc inside our debs according to what ScottK said
[20:37] <bambee> about pyc I agree
[20:37] <bambee> I was talking about the .py
[20:37] <Quintasan> ScottK: Is it alright when ksmserver/* is under MIT/X11 and there is no full license inside of source tarball?
[20:38] <ScottK> No.
[20:38] <Quintasan> It's covered by debian/copyright though
[20:38] <ScottK> Need the license.
[20:38] <ScottK> I doesn't need to be a separate file though.
[20:38] <ScottK> Sometimes for short licenses it's just in the actual code.
[20:38] <ScottK> That's fine.
[20:38] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/93649
[20:38] <Quintasan> Is that enough?
[20:39] <Quintasan> okular failed on i386 :/
[20:40]  * Quintasan waits for amd64 fail and goes fixing
[20:40] <ScottK> Yes.  FIne.
[20:40] <Quintasan> Docs are licensed, libs are too and both have full license text
[20:41] <ScottK> Great.
[20:42] <ScottK> Quintasan: I'll upload the fixed okular too, just point me at a .dsc when you're ready (please testbuild)
[20:42] <Quintasan> Course of action: confirmed.
[20:49] <yofel> Quintasan: kcalc confirmed fixed, thanks
[20:53] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ping
[20:53] <shadeslayer> ack
[20:53] <shadeslayer> ssup
[20:53] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Private request: Make KTeaTime use Plasma notifications
[20:54] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: maybe during DS hack sessions?
[20:54] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/BhMb6.png <-- what it looks like
[20:54] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[20:54] <shadeslayer> looks horrible
[20:54] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Whenever you wish. I do not have enough knowledge in c++ to do it
[20:55] <shadeslayer> ok, right now i'm wrestling with QML
[20:55]  * Quintasan uses KTeaTime frequently and would like it to look like the rest of KDE
[20:57]  * Quintasan wonders if something like quick music player exists
[20:58] <shadeslayer> ew, kdetoys uses SVN
[20:58]  * Quintasan creates i386 pbuilder
[20:59] <shadeslayer> uh uh
[20:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: Port KTeaTime to KStatusNotifierItem
[20:59] <Quintasan> Huh?
[20:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: thats the last commit on KTeaTime
[21:00] <Quintasan> You sure?
[21:00] <shadeslayer> thats what svn tells me
[21:00]  * Quintasan is running 4.6.5 and it looks like that
[21:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdetoys/kteatime/src/main.cpp?view=log
[21:02]  * Quintasan tries
[21:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I: Installing core packages...
[21:03] <Quintasan> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /home/quintasan/Sauce/pbuilder/build/21616/. dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-9ubuntu1_i386.deb
[21:03] <Quintasan> :/
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://i.imgur.com/qmk34.png
[21:04] <yofel> Quintasan: what are you trying to do?
[21:04] <yofel> oh, i386
[21:04] <yofel> WFM
[21:04] <Quintasan> Create i386 pbuilder
[21:04] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: :/
[21:04] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I wonder if it made it to 4.7
[21:04] <shadeslayer> yes
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: thats from the 4.6.95 tarball
[21:05] <Quintasan> The commit was in January lol
[21:05] <Quintasan> and we have July now
[21:05] <shadeslayer> hehe
[21:05] <Quintasan> yofel: Do you have a working one?
[21:05] <yofel> I do
[21:05] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: now go upload rocs
[21:05] <Quintasan> Can you testbuild okular?
[21:06] <yofel> sure, from where?
[21:06] <Quintasan> uploading
[21:07] <Quintasan> yofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/okular/okular_4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu3.dsc
[21:08] <Quintasan> I was supposed to go to bed in 30 minutes but I'll make that 1h and 30 minutes so I can upload some more
[21:09] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: That can wait, can't it?
[21:09] <Quintasan> I want to look at kde-workspace
[21:09] <yofel> I've roughly figured out marble licensing, which has highest priority after workspace
[21:09] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: sure, workspace has higher priority
[21:11]  * Quintasan tries Tomahawk
[21:12] <yofel> Quintasan: building, what to check?
[21:12] <Quintasan> if it works
[21:12] <Quintasan> and list-missing if any
[21:13] <yofel> I got some more symbols
[21:13] <yofel> list-missing is empty though
[21:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we can share music on tomahawk ^_^
[21:14] <Quintasan> symbols?
[21:15] <shadeslayer> which is the only reason i use it
[21:15] <Quintasan> IT can't connect to my jabber server
[21:15] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[21:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: why?
[21:15] <Quintasan> No idea
[21:15] <yofel> lemme rebuild on 64
[21:15] <Quintasan> How do I play everything from my collection shadeslayer?
[21:16] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: go to "My Collection" -> Select everything -> Right click -> Add to queue
[21:17] <shadeslayer> then just play a song from the queue
[21:17] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: What's you JID?
[21:17] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: rohangarg@jabber.org
[21:18] <Quintasan> It crashed
[21:18] <Quintasan> damned ppa
[21:18] <shadeslayer> lol
[21:18] <shadeslayer> build it from source
[21:19] <shadeslayer> yofel: got your request
[21:19] <yofel> :D
[21:19] <shadeslayer> don't expect alot of songs :P
[21:19] <shadeslayer> i have 98 
[21:20] <yofel> nah was just curious, need to figure out how that works anyway
[21:20] <shadeslayer> how what works? 
[21:21] <yofel> tomahawk
[21:21] <Quintasan> yofel: You got new symbols on okular?
[21:21] <yofel> I did on i386
[21:22] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/libokularcore1.symbols update symbols
[21:24] <Quintasan> k
[21:24] <Quintasan> yofel: nothing else?
[21:24] <yofel> nothing obvious
[21:26] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: tomahawk source FTBFS :P
[21:26] <shadeslayer> wat
[21:26] <shadeslayer> i'm building it right now, and its at 70 %
[21:26] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: pastebin log
[21:28] <Quintasan> make -j10 is too fast to log
[21:28] <Quintasan> gotta do just make
[21:28] <shadeslayer> heh
[21:28] <Quintasan> Well, not too fast but makes the log unreadable
[21:30] <Quintasan> ZzZZzZ
[21:31] <yofel> $ grep Copyright -R * | wc
[21:31] <yofel>    1618   10173  158915
[21:31] <shadeslayer> ^^ i'm going to sleep in 10 minutes as well
[21:31] <yofel> noooooo...
[21:31] <shadeslayer> yofel: lol
[21:32] <yofel> this is SO NOT FUN
[21:32] <Quintasan> ScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/okular/okular_4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu3.dsc
[21:32]  * ScottK grabs
[21:32] <yofel> I think I'll go per-person
[21:32] <Quintasan> three testbuilds here and one on yofel's pbuilder
[21:32]  * Quintasan can't get a i386 pbuilder
[21:33] <yofel> Quintasan: added the new symbols file`
[21:33] <yofel> ?
[21:33] <Quintasan> yofel: yes
[21:33] <yofel> k
[21:33] <Quintasan> I'm not that forgetful :P
[21:33] <ScottK> Quintasan: Uploaded.
[21:33]  * Quintasan pokes shadeslayer
[21:33] <Quintasan> ScottK: Awesome.
[21:33] <shadeslayer> yus
[21:34] <ScottK> 96 seconds to get sponsored. Not bad.
[21:34] <ScottK> Quintasan: There's /run transition problems right now that mean you can't create a new oneiric chroot.  You might try making a natty chroot and upgrading it.
[21:35] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/93667
[21:35] <Quintasan> ScottK: Oh, that might also explain why apachelogger could not create one
[21:36] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: inb4 echonest not installed
[21:36] <shadeslayer> yus
[21:36] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: one sec
[21:37] <Quintasan> lol k
[21:37] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I did make -j11 and it worked
[21:37] <Quintasan> Magic.
[21:37] <shadeslayer> i was just checking if libechohonest was provided under tomahawk/thirdparty
[21:38] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[21:38] <Quintasan> 97% now
[21:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: look at the laste make command thats rung ^_^
[21:38] <shadeslayer> s/rung/run/
[21:38] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "Quintasan: look at the laste make command thats run ^_^"
[21:38] <shadeslayer> last even
[21:40] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Still does not like my jabber :S
[21:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: no even the standard @jabber.org JID ?
[21:41] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I dont have JID on jabber.org
[21:41] <shadeslayer> oh weird
[21:41] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: report bug etc
[21:41] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I tried adding you form my google mail account
[21:41]  * shadeslayer looks
[21:42] <shadeslayer> yup got it
[21:42] <Quintasan> Pfffftsh
[21:42] <Quintasan> 98 songs
[21:42] <Quintasan> lol
[21:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i think this feature is new, but if i play a song, you can listen along
[21:42] <shadeslayer> lol yeah
[21:43] <shadeslayer> i just stream whenever i need them using tomahawk :
[21:43] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Play something
[21:43] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: started
[21:43] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I think we both need to have the same song on HDD
[21:43] <shadeslayer> nope
[21:43] <Quintasan> or not
[21:43] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[21:43] <Quintasan> oh shit
[21:44] <Quintasan> this is awesome
[21:44] <shadeslayer> yeah :D
[21:44] <shadeslayer> and to think its just using TCP sockets 
[21:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Listen to mine
[21:44] <Quintasan> oh damn
[21:44] <Quintasan> and I'm behind a NAT
[21:44] <shadeslayer> weird, its stopping every now and then
[21:45] <Quintasan> Slow uploads?
[21:45] <Quintasan> It's FLAC afaik
[21:45] <shadeslayer> plays for 5 seconds and then stops for 1 second
[21:45] <Quintasan> Y
[21:45] <Quintasan> FLAC
[21:45] <Quintasan> 31 MB
[21:45] <Quintasan> :D
[21:45] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[21:45] <yofel> man, just how man people have copyrights in marble...
[21:45] <shadeslayer> also, slow upload
[21:46] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: IMO there should be a warning when streaming FLAC or HQ audio
[21:46] <shadeslayer> i'm just getting 50-60 KBps
[21:46] <Quintasan> STOOOOP
[21:46] <Quintasan> :P
[21:46] <shadeslayer> lol
[21:46] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: even if i stop, it'll keep streaming it until i switch to another track
[21:46] <Quintasan> :D
[21:47] <shadeslayer> but, this is a awesome feature
[21:47] <yofel> 600 lines left...
[21:48] <yofel> hey, tazz has copyrights in marble ^^
[21:55] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: domme has 20618 songs :P
[21:56] <yofel> 200 lines left...
[21:58]  * yofel wonders why Simon's Cat doesn't have copyrights in marble
[22:05] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: My sister said it's sick shit
[22:05] <Quintasan> Works over LAN
[22:05] <Quintasan> :D
[22:05] <yofel> 36 people with copyright in general marble, *phew*
[22:06] <yofel> only cmake files left
[22:06] <Quintasan> lol
[22:09] <yofel> chaos I tell you
[22:15] <Quintasan> Too tired to continue
[22:16] <Quintasan> yofel: I am heading to bed. Good night
[22:16] <yofel> gn
[22:16] <Quintasan> workspace looks good but I'd like to give it a fresh look tomorrow if it's not a pressing issue
[22:17] <yofel> ok, I'm done with marble copyright
[22:18]  * Quintasan hits the bed
[22:18] <yofel> someone recheck this: http://paste.kde.org/93691
[22:20] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/copyright Fix copyright file
[22:20] <Quintasan> yofel: Looks sane (structure)
[22:20] <Quintasan> but insane (number of ppl)
[22:20] <yofel> good, now check the contents :P
[22:22] <Quintasan> Files: debian/*
[22:22] <Quintasan> License: LGPL-2.1+
[22:22] <Quintasan> Are you sure?
[22:22] <yofel> blame apachelogger
[22:22] <Quintasan> ...
[22:22]  * Quintasan went GPL-3.0+ with his
[22:22] <Quintasan> :/
[22:23] <yofel> I usually went with gpl-2+, but he said use the general license of the source
[22:23] <yofel> for marble that's lgpl-2.1
[22:23] <Quintasan> apachelogger: KC vote required for licensing our packaging
[22:24]  * Quintasan fails to see how having different copyright for every packaging is good
[22:24] <yofel> *shrug* - don't forget it affects the patches too
[22:24] <yofel> so you might need to use different licensing for them, etc...
[22:24] <yofel> chaos
[22:25] <yofel> good recipe to go insane
[22:26] <Quintasan> yofel: I'm going to bed for good this time :P
[22:26] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/changelog repack
[22:26] <yofel> good night
[22:27] <yofel> Quintasan: anything you think is needed for 4.6.5?
[22:27] <Quintasan> yofel: You sure love to troll me don't you?
[22:28] <yofel> sure, you're the only one here right now ^^
[22:28] <Quintasan> yofel: I patched kdeutils to fix the regression
[22:28] <Quintasan> No other reports so far
[22:28] <yofel> k, anyone else that wants to test them?
[22:28] <Quintasan> We need some normal users to test it
[22:29] <yofel> well, we won't find those here, and I don't want to make staging public
[22:30] <yofel> so I would rather just copy them
[22:30] <yofel> I've been running on 4.6.5 for a few hours now, no other issues
[22:30] <Quintasan> Same here
[22:31] <yofel> I'll copy them then
[22:31] <Quintasan> K
[22:31] <yofel> now how did that script I wrote work again...
[22:31] <Quintasan> lol
[22:31] <Quintasan> yofel: I'll start reviewing 4.6.90 again tomorrow
[22:31] <Quintasan> or later today
[22:31] <Quintasan> Whatever :S
[22:32] <yofel> k, good night for real now ^^
[22:32] <Quintasan> Yeah
[22:32] <Quintasan> Good night
[22:34] <yofel> copied, launchpadlib FTW!
[23:18] <wunderbaum> hi
[23:18] <wunderbaum> is there already a ppa for 4.7 for kubuntu natty?
[23:42] <yofel> wunderbaum: no, not yet, and there probably won't be for RC1, we'll backport RC2 when we're done with it
[23:51] <yofel> rosetta spam \o/