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Tatsujinopenshot sure has issues in lubuntu, first in lubuntu-desktop it doesn't run at all and in a clean install of lubuntu it does actually start but shuts down instantly.00:10
lubunhow do i get to a mp3? media?00:38
lubunwow my mp3 has 7.9 gigs and 6gigs is deleted files and i cant get them off..? but i think its a mp3 problem not with pc00:46
ethani'd just like to say thank you to any programmers of lubuntu who might be here01:05
ethanthis system is awesome01:05
ethani'm running on an asus eeepc 900a with 4 gb of hard drive space and 1 gb of ram01:05
ethanand this thing is running really well01:06
Unit193I'm not dev, but thanks for those kind words!01:08
bioterrorbest music player is MOC02:05
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ethani want to install a deb file02:30
ethanis there a program i can use with a gui02:30
ethanthat i can download with the terminal02:30
Unit193ethan: You should be able to use gdebi02:31
ethani'll try that02:31
ethanis there a gui i could download with it?02:32
ethanthis doesn't have it02:32
ethanoh got it thanks02:33
Unit193You couldn't just double click on the .deb?02:33
ethanit was set to open in the terminal02:34
ethanwhich i could figure out, but i dont feel like taking the time02:34
Unit193It's the method I use :P (Not for everyone...)02:35
ethanya i use the terminal a lot but i feel uncomfortable using it to install from the hard disk02:35
ethani just dont know that well how to use it02:35
Unit193I use   sudo dpkg -i file.deb   and you may also need   sudo apt-get install -f   for missing depends02:37
ethanwell this is pretty much a fresh install02:38
ethani dont see how there could really be any missing depends02:38
KM0201ethan: when you double clicked the .deb, did it open in terminal and ask you to type I for install, or a couple other commands?02:38
KM0201otherwise, they'll open in Gdebi, at least they do for me02:39
ethanyeah02:39
ethanbut i dont really need that02:39
KM0201yeah what?02:39
ethanyeah it asked to type i for install02:39
ethanthat stuff02:39
ethanbut it's fine02:39
KM0201ethan: thats an install script it runs, click I, then type sudo..02:39
KM0201thats not how you install from terminal, some .debs just do that.02:40
ethani understand how to do it i just would rather have a gui02:40
KM0201ethan: ok, then install gdebi02:41
ethaneven though its a lot easier to type five characters02:41
jmarsdenWhy are we doing installs from downloaded .deb files instead of from a repository?02:41
KM0201you're not making sense... you don't want to install a gdebi, cuz you "don't need it"... but you don't want to use the terminal either02:41
KM0201jmarsden: well, thats another issue..02:41
ethanthe .deb was nt from a repository02:41
jmarsdenethan: Where *was* it from?  That sounds dangerous...02:41
ethani already have gdebi02:41
KM0201ethan: then install it weith gdebi, or is clicking "install package" to much work now?02:42
ethani didnnt know02:42
ethanguys its done youre making a mountain out of a mole hill02:42
ethanit was just using terminal as default instead of gdebi02:42
KM0201ethan: ok, well, at least you got it resolved, but you said a minute ago, you'd rather not install gdebi02:43
KM0201but tats fine, glad you got it resolved02:43
ethanhahaha no i meant i didnt need to cause i had it02:43
ethanim not new to ubuntu02:43
KM0201.. the more this conversation goes, the more confused i get02:43
ethanim just used to more enhanced versions02:43
ethanok02:44
ethanone more thing02:44
ethanim trying to download a package02:44
ethanfrom chromium02:44
KM0201chromium is in the repository..02:44
ethanit gives me an external protocol request02:44
ethanand i click ok02:44
ethanand it just opens a new windoow in chromium02:44
Unit193KM0201: Download from a website using chromium02:45
KM0201man, i'm either off my game, or.. i dunno...02:45
KM0201nothing being said makes sense.02:45
ethanany way to make it actually download the file?02:45
jmarsdenethan: Sounds like either chromium or xdg-open or both do not fully know how to deal with the mime-type that website is giving to the package file.02:46
jmarsdenCan't you right click and do save as... ?02:46
ethandoesnt work02:46
ethanso how do I fix it?02:46
jmarsdenethan: You can figure out the relevant mime type, then hack on the xdg-open script, I'd guess... easier to just use wget (or better still, quit downloading packages from anywhere that is not a known and trusted repository in the first place!)02:47
jmarsdenUbuntu is not Windows.  We do not just downlaod random binary packages and install them.02:48
ethani understand that02:48
jmarsdenThen ... why are you downloading random binary packages and installing them?02:48
ethanis it wrong i want do download a few  packages that arent in a repo?02:49
ethanand they arent that random02:49
jmarsdenIf you downloaded the source packages adn checked them out carefully, and then built the binaries from them, that's fine...02:49
Unit193jmarsden: They may not be random to him and he may require something that isn't in the repo or is an old version02:49
jmarsdenUnit193: Deliberately breaking package management by dwonloading binaries from untrusted places is a bad idea.  period.02:49
KM0201ethan: what other versions of linux have you used?02:50
KM0201(and were proficient with)02:50
ethanpretty much ubuntu02:50
ethani tried fedora02:50
ethanbut didnt like it02:50
ethanlubuntu is just more stripped down02:50
Unit193jmarsden: And if the person installing trusts them? The repo isn't always up to date.02:50
jmarsdenUnit193: The only way you know you can trust a package is if you trust whoever signed it... or you built it yourself, of course, after reading the sources from which it is built.02:51
ethanor you can just not care because theres nothing on the computer of real value anyway02:52
jmarsdenPPAs are free; anyone providing binary packages without corresponding sources is therefore pretty suspect.02:52
jmarsdenethan: Your bandwidth has real value... to spammers.  They don't care what is on your computer, just that they can take it over and use it for their own purposes.02:52
jmarsdenFailing to care about the security if an Internet connected machine is, therefore, unwise.02:53
jmarsdens/if/of/02:53
zkriesse_jmarsden: Calm down buddy03:11
zkriesse_You don't need to go all into super security on the guy, just answer the question as it was asked, not give a biography on how to install a file03:11
jmarsdenzkriesse_: Someone else already did that; I merely questioned the wisdom of the underlying act.03:12
zkriesse_Indeed03:13
zkriesse_Which is fine :) Just don't scare the guy with your knowledge lol03:13
jmarsdenzkriesse_: Some of us have been working in network admin and network security since well before some folks in this channel were born...03:13
jmarsdenScaring people away from random downloads of binaries is, IMO, probably a good thing :)03:13
zkriesse_jmarsden: Indeed, I do not dispute that fact, I'm merely suggesting a little less info at one time lol don't overwhelm, rather inform at an understandable pace.03:14
jmarsdenWell.... OK.  Each sentence was in response to a specific statement from someone else in channel.  I didn't just type in a security encyclopedia :)03:15
zkriesse_Hehehe03:15
stlsaintsup folks03:26
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ethanyou guys know any vnc/remote desktop applications that are good with lubuntu?04:22
Unit193x11vnc works for me04:22
Unit193!vnc04:22
ubot5VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX04:22
ethanx11vnc gives me an error though04:23
Unit193How do you start it?04:23
Unit193x11vnc -safer -forever -usepw -display :0     is what I use04:24
ethani just go to the internet applications04:24
ethanand click x11vnc04:24
ethanI'm trying vino but i have no idea how to configure it04:25
ethanoh hey i got it nevermind04:27
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Eddiehi, I have to use proxy to access internet, I want to create a shortcut (like a quick-launcher) on the panel, shortcut with a command like this:  chromium-browser --proxy-server="10.14.0.241:3128", any help would be appreciated, tia. Eddie12:55
Eddiesorry, I forgot to mention that I am using Lubuntu, can't find the way around to create a shortcut on the panel in Lubuntu... thanks12:57
EddieHi, is there any way around to create a shortcut on the panel in Lubuntu... thanks13:11
dzone_how to burn lubuntu oneiric on my usb flash drive14:15
dzone_I tried with LinuxLive USB creator but it can't do it14:16
dzoneis there a problem to install lubuntu 10.10 and next to upgrade to 11.1014:45
dzonehow the update/upgrade is happening14:45
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Slick666Hi all18:29
Slick666I'm trying to share my network connection and I can't seem to get it working under lubuntu18:30
Slick666anyone seen some good posts explaining it?18:30
andantinoi have just installed lubuntu on an older pc to see how it runs. I love it thus far. Very agile system. But I am having a problem with my monitor settings. It is detecting them at 1280x96018:36
andantinoit should be 1024x768. I can change it without any problems but when I restart it resets to 1280x96018:37
Kurdistanandantino, open the terimal and right xrand18:38
Kurdistanwrite18:38
andantinoone second kurdistan...ill be right back18:38
andantinoalright....sorry about that18:41
andantinoxrandr?18:41
Kurdistanyes18:42
andantinook18:42
andantinodone18:42
Unit193andantino: Just to make sure, how are you changing it?18:43
andantinoi was using Monitor Settings in the preferences menu18:43
andantinoive had this problem with certain distros on this computer18:44
Unit193Hmmm.... That should keep the settings. Do you have an xorg.conf file? (/etc/X11/xorg.conf )18:45
pmatulisyea, finally got around to configuring dual k/b layout18:45
Kurdistanandantino, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution18:45
andantinoim just going to try another restart here18:46
andantinobrb18:46
Slick666Kurdistan do you have any idea about my network manager question?18:48
KurdistanSlick666, samba share?18:48
Slick666nope18:49
Slick666trying to share my internet18:49
Slick666I'm on a laptop, wifi connects to the internet18:49
andantinoalright its saved this time18:49
Slick666I was hoping to set network manager to share internet over the lan18:49
KurdistanSlick666, I donĀ“t use gnome network manager more18:51
Kurdistanso I can not say exactly18:51
Slick666what do you use?18:51
KurdistanSlick666, you can try to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing18:52
Slick666thanks18:52
Kurdistanyou can also read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9137018:53
trakinashi all.19:03
trakinasLubuntu keep complaining about my system having less than 5.3GB. Why I can boot the iso on a 4GB pendrive but can't install it on the netbook? which also has 4GB19:03
trakinastrying to install 11.0419:04
Unit193trakinas: Trying to install with less HDD space needs the disk from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu19:05
Unit193"32 bit, low disk usage - For those people where hard disk space is critically low, this community edition requires just 2.7 GB of hard drive. This version is discussed at 11.04 Minimal Disk Space."19:05
trakinasthanks! i was trying to find some link like that.19:06
trakinasare there many seeds for the torrent?19:07
phillwit's in the topic :) I do wish people would read it :P19:07
trakinasphillw: I wouldnt try "get lubuntu" because I already got it.19:08
Unit193phillw: What do you think I typed right before? :D19:09
trakinasI tried something like "lubuntu 4gb" on google, but google finds many Ubuntu's link, but none lubuntu. and since today Im not on the mood of digging links from results, I came here. sorry for that.19:09
phillwtrakinas: I'm not too sure how else to call that page. It is a listing of all our releases after 9.1019:09
phillwtrakinas: it is no problem, we are here to help :)19:10
trakinas=]19:10
phillwtrakinas: the torrent is on a server, as is the 1st iso area. The secondary iso area is my server.19:12
trakinasIm getting from http. thanks!19:15
phillw;topic Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat  ||  The various version of Lubuntu 11.04The various versions of Lubuntu are available at http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). Always follow the channel guidelines - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines20:12
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Unit193phillw: Failed :)20:12
phillw;topic Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat  ||  The various version of Lubuntu are available at http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). Always follow the channel guidelines - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines20:13
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phillw;part #lubuntu20:14
LAcanguys I'm having a weird issue about the password for my default keyring... it doesnt accept my system password but rather my ubuntuone password... how can i change this?20:16
phillwLAcan: I'm not familiar with ubuntuone, you may be better asking on #ubuntu-beginners. They may well be familiar with the issue.20:21
Unit193LAcan: You can reset your keyring if you wish20:22
trakinas(please use the torrent feed) - sorry! haha! but there were no "minimal.torrent" link there. so I used the http20:25
phillwtrakinas: that is why I try my best to ensure I hold a mirror of each iso on my server area.20:33
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phillwthe main minimal install isos are held on Canonical's own servers. I only hold the lubuntu ones.20:34
trakinasphillw: cool! If there is any .torrent somewhere/someday, let me know, so I can seed.20:35
phillwtrakinas: seeders are always welcome, at each release the servers just get hammered. Even though I'm on a shared server, they are dead cool about it as they do not mind a sudden massive spike in my data bandwidth as they know for most of the time it is low.20:37
trakinasnice20:37
phillwI have no hesitation in recommending both my DNS provider, nor hoster. It has taken a few years, but for those who use them I've never heard a complaint.20:39
phillwtrakinas: I'm going to send you an invite....20:40
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derSoldathello all21:33
derSoldatI would like to disable the resize icon in lxterminal21:34
derSoldathttp://i.imgur.com/2CB0l.png21:34
phillwhiu derSoldat21:34
derSoldatI want to get rid of the grey rectangle in the bottom right hand corner21:34
derSoldatAny ideas?21:34
LAcanUnit193, how do i reset my keyring?21:57
Unit193LAcan: rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring (or login.keyring )21:59
Unit193LAcan: Are you using Natty or Maverick?22:00
LAcanand then just log back in?... im on lubuntu// not sure which it uses..?22:00
Unit193Type   lsb_release -rc   in the terminal22:00
LAcanmaverick22:01
LAcanand thanks22:01
Unit193It's the first one in that case22:01
andantinolubuntu is great! i should have tried this before.22:24
andantinothis is the perfect distro for my older pc22:24
Kurdistanandantino, yes lubuntu is indeed great distro.22:27
Unit193andantino: I think it's nice22:27

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