[00:10] <Tatsujin> openshot sure has issues in lubuntu, first in lubuntu-desktop it doesn't run at all and in a clean install of lubuntu it does actually start but shuts down instantly.
[00:38] <lubun> how do i get to a mp3? media?
[00:46] <lubun> wow my mp3 has 7.9 gigs and 6gigs is deleted files and i cant get them off..? but i think its a mp3 problem not with pc
[01:05] <ethan> i'd just like to say thank you to any programmers of lubuntu who might be here
[01:05] <ethan> this system is awesome
[01:05] <ethan> i'm running on an asus eeepc 900a with 4 gb of hard drive space and 1 gb of ram
[01:06] <ethan> and this thing is running really well
[01:08] <Unit193> I'm not dev, but thanks for those kind words!
[02:05] <bioterror> best music player is MOC
[02:30] <ethan> i want to install a deb file
[02:30] <ethan> is there a program i can use with a gui
[02:30] <ethan> that i can download with the terminal
[02:31] <Unit193> ethan: You should be able to use gdebi
[02:31] <ethan> i'll try that
[02:32] <ethan> is there a gui i could download with it?
[02:32] <ethan> this doesn't have it
[02:33] <ethan> oh got it thanks
[02:33] <Unit193> You couldn't just double click on the .deb?
[02:34] <ethan> it was set to open in the terminal
[02:34] <ethan> which i could figure out, but i dont feel like taking the time
[02:35] <Unit193> It's the method I use :P (Not for everyone...)
[02:35] <ethan> ya i use the terminal a lot but i feel uncomfortable using it to install from the hard disk
[02:35] <ethan> i just dont know that well how to use it
[02:37] <Unit193> I use   sudo dpkg -i file.deb   and you may also need   sudo apt-get install -f   for missing depends
[02:38] <ethan> well this is pretty much a fresh install
[02:38] <ethan> i dont see how there could really be any missing depends
[02:38] <KM0201> ethan: when you double clicked the .deb, did it open in terminal and ask you to type I for install, or a couple other commands?
[02:39] <KM0201> otherwise, they'll open in Gdebi, at least they do for me
[02:39] <ethan> yeah
[02:39] <ethan> but i dont really need that
[02:39] <KM0201> yeah what?
[02:39] <ethan> yeah it asked to type i for install
[02:39] <ethan> that stuff
[02:39] <ethan> but it's fine
[02:39] <KM0201> ethan: thats an install script it runs, click I, then type sudo..
[02:40] <KM0201> thats not how you install from terminal, some .debs just do that.
[02:40] <ethan> i understand how to do it i just would rather have a gui
[02:41] <KM0201> ethan: ok, then install gdebi
[02:41] <ethan> even though its a lot easier to type five characters
[02:41] <jmarsden> Why are we doing installs from downloaded .deb files instead of from a repository?
[02:41] <KM0201> you're not making sense... you don't want to install a gdebi, cuz you "don't need it"... but you don't want to use the terminal either
[02:41] <KM0201> jmarsden: well, thats another issue..
[02:41] <ethan> the .deb was nt from a repository
[02:41] <jmarsden> ethan: Where *was* it from?  That sounds dangerous...
[02:41] <ethan> i already have gdebi
[02:42] <KM0201> ethan: then install it weith gdebi, or is clicking "install package" to much work now?
[02:42] <ethan> i didnnt know
[02:42] <ethan> guys its done youre making a mountain out of a mole hill
[02:42] <ethan> it was just using terminal as default instead of gdebi
[02:43] <KM0201> ethan: ok, well, at least you got it resolved, but you said a minute ago, you'd rather not install gdebi
[02:43] <KM0201> but tats fine, glad you got it resolved
[02:43] <ethan> hahaha no i meant i didnt need to cause i had it
[02:43] <ethan> im not new to ubuntu
[02:43] <KM0201> .. the more this conversation goes, the more confused i get
[02:43] <ethan> im just used to more enhanced versions
[02:44] <ethan> ok
[02:44] <ethan> one more thing
[02:44] <ethan> im trying to download a package
[02:44] <ethan> from chromium
[02:44] <KM0201> chromium is in the repository..
[02:44] <ethan> it gives me an external protocol request
[02:44] <ethan> and i click ok
[02:44] <ethan> and it just opens a new windoow in chromium
[02:45] <Unit193> KM0201: Download from a website using chromium
[02:45] <KM0201> man, i'm either off my game, or.. i dunno...
[02:45] <KM0201> nothing being said makes sense.
[02:45] <ethan> any way to make it actually download the file?
[02:46] <jmarsden> ethan: Sounds like either chromium or xdg-open or both do not fully know how to deal with the mime-type that website is giving to the package file.
[02:46] <jmarsden> Can't you right click and do save as... ?
[02:46] <ethan> doesnt work
[02:46] <ethan> so how do I fix it?
[02:47] <jmarsden> ethan: You can figure out the relevant mime type, then hack on the xdg-open script, I'd guess... easier to just use wget (or better still, quit downloading packages from anywhere that is not a known and trusted repository in the first place!)
[02:48] <jmarsden> Ubuntu is not Windows.  We do not just downlaod random binary packages and install them.
[02:48] <ethan> i understand that
[02:48] <jmarsden> Then ... why are you downloading random binary packages and installing them?
[02:49] <ethan> is it wrong i want do download a few  packages that arent in a repo?
[02:49] <ethan> and they arent that random
[02:49] <jmarsden> If you downloaded the source packages adn checked them out carefully, and then built the binaries from them, that's fine...
[02:49] <Unit193> jmarsden: They may not be random to him and he may require something that isn't in the repo or is an old version
[02:49] <jmarsden> Unit193: Deliberately breaking package management by dwonloading binaries from untrusted places is a bad idea.  period.
[02:50] <KM0201> ethan: what other versions of linux have you used?
[02:50] <KM0201> (and were proficient with)
[02:50] <ethan> pretty much ubuntu
[02:50] <ethan> i tried fedora
[02:50] <ethan> but didnt like it
[02:50] <ethan> lubuntu is just more stripped down
[02:50] <Unit193> jmarsden: And if the person installing trusts them? The repo isn't always up to date.
[02:51] <jmarsden> Unit193: The only way you know you can trust a package is if you trust whoever signed it... or you built it yourself, of course, after reading the sources from which it is built.
[02:52] <ethan> or you can just not care because theres nothing on the computer of real value anyway
[02:52] <jmarsden> PPAs are free; anyone providing binary packages without corresponding sources is therefore pretty suspect.
[02:52] <jmarsden> ethan: Your bandwidth has real value... to spammers.  They don't care what is on your computer, just that they can take it over and use it for their own purposes.
[02:53] <jmarsden> Failing to care about the security if an Internet connected machine is, therefore, unwise.
[02:53] <jmarsden> s/if/of/
[03:11] <zkriesse_> jmarsden: Calm down buddy
[03:11] <zkriesse_> You don't need to go all into super security on the guy, just answer the question as it was asked, not give a biography on how to install a file
[03:12] <jmarsden> zkriesse_: Someone else already did that; I merely questioned the wisdom of the underlying act.
[03:13] <zkriesse_> Indeed
[03:13] <zkriesse_> Which is fine :) Just don't scare the guy with your knowledge lol
[03:13] <jmarsden> zkriesse_: Some of us have been working in network admin and network security since well before some folks in this channel were born...
[03:13] <jmarsden> Scaring people away from random downloads of binaries is, IMO, probably a good thing :)
[03:14] <zkriesse_> jmarsden: Indeed, I do not dispute that fact, I'm merely suggesting a little less info at one time lol don't overwhelm, rather inform at an understandable pace.
[03:15] <jmarsden> Well.... OK.  Each sentence was in response to a specific statement from someone else in channel.  I didn't just type in a security encyclopedia :)
[03:15] <zkriesse_> Hehehe
[03:26] <stlsaint> sup folks
[04:22] <ethan> you guys know any vnc/remote desktop applications that are good with lubuntu?
[04:22] <Unit193> x11vnc works for me
[04:22] <Unit193> !vnc
[04:23] <ethan> x11vnc gives me an error though
[04:23] <Unit193> How do you start it?
[04:24] <Unit193> x11vnc -safer -forever -usepw -display :0     is what I use
[04:24] <ethan> i just go to the internet applications
[04:24] <ethan> and click x11vnc
[04:25] <ethan> I'm trying vino but i have no idea how to configure it
[04:27] <ethan> oh hey i got it nevermind
[12:55] <Eddie> hi, I have to use proxy to access internet, I want to create a shortcut (like a quick-launcher) on the panel, shortcut with a command like this:  chromium-browser --proxy-server="10.14.0.241:3128", any help would be appreciated, tia. Eddie
[12:57] <Eddie> sorry, I forgot to mention that I am using Lubuntu, can't find the way around to create a shortcut on the panel in Lubuntu... thanks
[13:11] <Eddie> Hi, is there any way around to create a shortcut on the panel in Lubuntu... thanks
[14:15] <dzone_> how to burn lubuntu oneiric on my usb flash drive
[14:16] <dzone_> I tried with LinuxLive USB creator but it can't do it
[14:45] <dzone> is there a problem to install lubuntu 10.10 and next to upgrade to 11.10
[14:45] <dzone> how the update/upgrade is happening
[18:29] <Slick666> Hi all
[18:30] <Slick666> I'm trying to share my network connection and I can't seem to get it working under lubuntu
[18:30] <Slick666> anyone seen some good posts explaining it?
[18:36] <andantino> i have just installed lubuntu on an older pc to see how it runs. I love it thus far. Very agile system. But I am having a problem with my monitor settings. It is detecting them at 1280x960
[18:37] <andantino> it should be 1024x768. I can change it without any problems but when I restart it resets to 1280x960
[18:38] <Kurdistan> andantino, open the terimal and right xrand
[18:38] <Kurdistan> write
[18:38] <andantino> one second kurdistan...ill be right back
[18:41] <andantino> alright....sorry about that
[18:41] <andantino> xrandr?
[18:42] <Kurdistan> yes
[18:42] <andantino> ok
[18:42] <andantino> done
[18:43] <Unit193> andantino: Just to make sure, how are you changing it?
[18:43] <andantino> i was using Monitor Settings in the preferences menu
[18:44] <andantino> ive had this problem with certain distros on this computer
[18:45] <Unit193> Hmmm.... That should keep the settings. Do you have an xorg.conf file? (/etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[18:45] <pmatulis> yea, finally got around to configuring dual k/b layout
[18:45] <Kurdistan> andantino, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[18:46] <andantino> im just going to try another restart here
[18:46] <andantino> brb
[18:48] <Slick666> Kurdistan do you have any idea about my network manager question?
[18:48] <Kurdistan> Slick666, samba share?
[18:49] <Slick666> nope
[18:49] <Slick666> trying to share my internet
[18:49] <Slick666> I'm on a laptop, wifi connects to the internet
[18:49] <andantino> alright its saved this time
[18:49] <Slick666> I was hoping to set network manager to share internet over the lan
[18:51] <Kurdistan> Slick666, I don´t use gnome network manager more
[18:51] <Kurdistan> so I can not say exactly
[18:51] <Slick666> what do you use?
[18:52] <Kurdistan> Slick666, you can try to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:52] <Slick666> thanks
[18:53] <Kurdistan> you can also read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[19:03] <trakinas> hi all.
[19:03] <trakinas> Lubuntu keep complaining about my system having less than 5.3GB. Why I can boot the iso on a 4GB pendrive but can't install it on the netbook? which also has 4GB
[19:04] <trakinas> trying to install 11.04
[19:05] <Unit193> trakinas: Trying to install with less HDD space needs the disk from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[19:05] <Unit193> "32 bit, low disk usage - For those people where hard disk space is critically low, this community edition requires just 2.7 GB of hard drive. This version is discussed at 11.04 Minimal Disk Space."
[19:06] <trakinas> thanks! i was trying to find some link like that.
[19:07] <trakinas> are there many seeds for the torrent?
[19:07] <phillw> it's in the topic :) I do wish people would read it :P
[19:08] <trakinas> phillw: I wouldnt try "get lubuntu" because I already got it.
[19:09] <Unit193> phillw: What do you think I typed right before? :D
[19:09] <trakinas> I tried something like "lubuntu 4gb" on google, but google finds many Ubuntu's link, but none lubuntu. and since today Im not on the mood of digging links from results, I came here. sorry for that.
[19:09] <phillw> trakinas: I'm not too sure how else to call that page. It is a listing of all our releases after 9.10
[19:10] <phillw> trakinas: it is no problem, we are here to help :)
[19:10] <trakinas> =]
[19:12] <phillw> trakinas: the torrent is on a server, as is the 1st iso area. The secondary iso area is my server.
[19:15] <trakinas> Im getting from http. thanks!
[20:12] <phillw> ;topic Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat  ||  The various version of Lubuntu 11.04The various versions of Lubuntu are available at http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). Always follow the channel guidelines - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[20:12] <Unit193> phillw: Failed :)
[20:13] <phillw> ;topic Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat  ||  The various version of Lubuntu are available at http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). Always follow the channel guidelines - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[20:14] <phillw> ;part #lubuntu
[20:16] <LAcan> guys I'm having a weird issue about the password for my default keyring... it doesnt accept my system password but rather my ubuntuone password... how can i change this?
[20:21] <phillw> LAcan: I'm not familiar with ubuntuone, you may be better asking on #ubuntu-beginners. They may well be familiar with the issue.
[20:22] <Unit193> LAcan: You can reset your keyring if you wish
[20:25] <trakinas> (please use the torrent feed) - sorry! haha! but there were no "minimal.torrent" link there. so I used the http
[20:33] <phillw> trakinas: that is why I try my best to ensure I hold a mirror of each iso on my server area.
[20:34] <phillw> the main minimal install isos are held on Canonical's own servers. I only hold the lubuntu ones.
[20:35] <trakinas> phillw: cool! If there is any .torrent somewhere/someday, let me know, so I can seed.
[20:37] <phillw> trakinas: seeders are always welcome, at each release the servers just get hammered. Even though I'm on a shared server, they are dead cool about it as they do not mind a sudden massive spike in my data bandwidth as they know for most of the time it is low.
[20:37] <trakinas> nice
[20:39] <phillw> I have no hesitation in recommending both my DNS provider, nor hoster. It has taken a few years, but for those who use them I've never heard a complaint.
[20:40] <phillw> trakinas: I'm going to send you an invite....
[21:33] <derSoldat> hello all
[21:34] <derSoldat> I would like to disable the resize icon in lxterminal
[21:34] <derSoldat> http://i.imgur.com/2CB0l.png
[21:34] <phillw> hiu derSoldat
[21:34] <derSoldat> I want to get rid of the grey rectangle in the bottom right hand corner
[21:34] <derSoldat> Any ideas?
[21:57] <LAcan> Unit193, how do i reset my keyring?
[21:59] <Unit193> LAcan: rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring (or login.keyring )
[22:00] <Unit193> LAcan: Are you using Natty or Maverick?
[22:00] <LAcan> and then just log back in?... im on lubuntu// not sure which it uses..?
[22:00] <Unit193> Type   lsb_release -rc   in the terminal
[22:01] <LAcan> maverick
[22:01] <LAcan> and thanks
[22:01] <Unit193> It's the first one in that case
[22:24] <andantino> lubuntu is great! i should have tried this before.
[22:24] <andantino> this is the perfect distro for my older pc
[22:27] <Kurdistan> andantino, yes lubuntu is indeed great distro.
[22:27] <Unit193> andantino: I think it's nice