[01:23] <TheMuso> Does anybody know if there is a tag we can mark bugs with that need translating?
[01:28] <micahg> TheMuso: well, bugsquad policy was convert to question, but you can either use google translate or add an ubuntu-translators project tasks if you know you want the bug
[01:29] <TheMuso> micahg: Right, its just another "no sound" bug.
[01:29] <TheMuso> I think.
[06:25] <evfool> ping hggdh
[13:08] <brendand> my new pet peeve in life is launchpads duplicate 'detection'
[13:13] <jibel> brendand, bug_tasks.findSimilarBugs lp method or whatever tries to find duplicates definitely needs improvements.
[13:14] <brendand> afaict it doesn't even search for the proposed summary in the description of existing bugs
[13:14] <brendand> and the matching needs to be much more fuzzy
[13:15] <brendand> at least it should always propose 5-6 bugs on a best effort and then let the reporter decide
[13:19] <evfool> hi all, what would you set as a status for bug 685973, as the About Me dialog is obsolete now
[13:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 685973 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Selecting 'No image' in 'About me' is not the same as the default, i.e. no image (affects: 2) (heat: 18)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685973
[13:24] <pedro_> evfool, invalid for the development release , valid for the stable , if someone wants to propose a fix in a sru is welcome to do it
[13:25] <evfool> pedro_ unfortunately I think I can't create release-targeted tasks, so if you could do that, I'd be grateful
[13:39] <hggdh> evfool: pong
[13:41] <pedro_> top of the morning hggdh
[13:41] <evfool> hggdh just wanted to ask you whether you've seen anything like in bug 807223
[13:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 807223 in r-base (Ubuntu) "package blcr-dkms 0.8.2-15ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: blcr kernel module failed to build (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807223
[13:41] <hggdh> pedro_: a very good morning to you, sir
[13:42] <evfool> the bug is totally a duplicate of bug 700036 based on the dkmsbuild log, but it's filed against r-base, and has a seemingly totally unrelated dependency error in the bug description
[13:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 700036 in openmpi (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "package blcr-dkms 0.8.2-15ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: blcr kernel module failed to build - error: ‘struct signal_struct’ has no member named ‘count’ (affects: 157) (dups: 152) (heat: 1342)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/700036
[13:43] <evfool> could it happen that apport "merges" two bug reports somehow?
[13:44] <evfool> that seems to be the case here, as the bug title, the dkmsbuildlog, everything seems to be about blcr, but the package it's filed against is another one, and the description has that dependency error
[13:44] <evfool> apport got a bit confused here, I think, this might be an apport bug
[13:45] <hggdh> evfool: it might. Better to ask the OP, though. I have not seen apport *that* confused
[13:46] <jibel> evfool, probably the user merged it. apport triggered the blcr bug and the user added the r-base trace to the description and changed the package assignment ?
[13:46] <jibel> never underestimate the user.
[13:46] <hggdh> (I am a bit curious on why the user has /opt/real/RealPlayer on the make path)
[13:47] <hggdh> jibel: good afternoon
[13:47] <hggdh> and yes, never underestimate the user :-)
[13:47] <evfool> jibel: the full bug activity log should have things like package changes in it, shouldn't it?
[13:47] <jibel> Good afternoon hggdh pedro_ evfool and all
[13:47] <jibel> evfool, not if he did it when he filed the bug.
[13:47] <evfool> ok
[13:48] <evfool> then would it be ok to mark it as a duplicate based on the logs?
[13:48] <jibel> but, as hggdh said, better ask the op to be certain it is not apport being confused. But I'd be surprised.
[13:48] <evfool> op = reporter?
[13:49] <yofel> original poster = reporter
[13:49] <jibel> evfool, well it is not a duplicate according to the description. His problem is really with r-base
[13:51] <evfool> jibel, hggdh, I give up, this one seems too complicated for me :)
[13:52] <pedro_> afternoon jibel!
[13:59] <jibel> evfool, try to triage bug 807540 then ;-)
[13:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 807540 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "Attempting to update with dpkg (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807540
[14:00] <evfool> jibel, Incomplete, I guess :)
[15:16] <hggdh> pedro_: UDW next week... what about talking (again...) about DOs and DONOTs on triage?
[15:20] <pedro_> hggdh, yes that and add some tips for searching , etc
[15:31] <brendand> nautilus break for anyone after todays update?
[15:32] <pedro_> brendand, it was sort of broken yesterday due to the zeitgeist update works fine now though at least for me
[15:33] <pedro_> zeitgeist caused ubuntu1 to have a crash loop which also caused nautilus to crash, but that was fixed by the amazing didrocks
[15:34] <brendand> hmm, maybe i didn't get all updates yet. still have u1, zeitgeist crashes and nautilus doesn't open
[15:35] <jibel> brendand, fixed in ubuntuone-client 1.7.0-0ubuntu2
[15:35] <pedro_> brendand, anything on ~/.xsession-errors?
[15:38] <brendand> pedro_ - these are repeating always : http://paste.ubuntu.com/640203/
[15:39] <pedro_> brendand, right, that's the u1 issue
[15:40] <brendand> well, i'll try a dist-upgrade
[15:40] <brendand> pedro_ - yeah, looks like some updates there
[15:41] <pedro_> cool
[15:50] <hggdh> pedro_: http://pad.ubuntu.com/udw-qa
[15:51] <hggdh> and jibel ^, and, actually, anyone that wishes to help
[16:28] <bdmurray> cyphermox: is bug 421673 fixed? it looks like blacklisting was fixed upstream
[16:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 421673 in modemmanager (Fedora) (and 1 other project) "modem-manager tries to probe, crashes PalmOS handhelds and makes other serial devices unusable (affects: 17) (dups: 1) (heat: 104)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/421673
[16:33] <cyphermox> bdmurray: yes, it should be fixed in maverick and later.
[16:33] <bdmurray> cyphermox: hrm, I don't have /etc/modemmanager/blacklist on my system is that not the right file?
[16:33] <cyphermox> no
[16:34] <cyphermox> look into /lib/udev/rules.d/ for files starting with 77-mm-
[16:36] <bdmurray> cyphermox: got it thanks.  also in the screenshot in bug 806082 is there some way to get modem-manager to stop filing the screen there
[16:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806082 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown screen after installation is confusing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806082
[16:36] <cyphermox> yes, there is. I'll take a look at it
[16:36] <cyphermox> seems like MM gets killed which causes it to get respawned
[16:37] <bdmurray> cyphermox: great, thanks
[16:39] <cyphermox> perhaps upstartifying modemmanager could make this work properly, if I make sure it gets stopped when NM gets stopped
[16:47] <cyphermox> bdmurray: testing a fix now, brb
[17:02] <cyphermox> bdmurray: upstartifying seems to work, so I'll commit and upload and updated modemmanager *today*
[17:02] <bdmurray> cyphermox: sweet, thanks!
[19:04] <Ampelbein> bug #807652 ;-)
[19:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 807652 in ubuntu "11.11 on 11-11-11T11:11:11 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807652
[19:05] <roadmr> awesome
[19:06] <pedro_> oh wow
[19:06] <pedro_> i'm affected
[19:06]  * pedro_ clicking on affects me too
[19:06] <paultag> pedro_: jebus
[19:06] <paultag> pedro_: http://pault.ag:8080/firehose.html ← you're going nuts on LP now :)
[19:07] <paultag> pedro_: what kind of nasty script are you running? :)
[19:07] <seb128> well at least that one means extra time for bug fixing :p
[19:07] <pedro_> paultag, oh yeah!
[19:07] <pedro_> paultag, checking really old new bugs without any comment for the original reporter
[19:07] <pedro_> really old meaning more than a year
[19:07] <paultag> pedro_: Gotcha. Sweet :)
[19:08] <pedro_> i should make that script public though so others can use it for their projects..
[19:08] <seb128> pedro_, you should write a script that close all segfault bugs older than lucid that didn't get a comment
[19:08] <pedro_> saves a lot of time
[19:08] <pedro_> seb128, i have one for assigning all the bugs to you
[19:08] <pedro_> oh wait that's a secret
[19:08] <seb128> there is probably a collection of those to close
[19:08] <paultag> pedro_: I bet, I usually try to keep my timesavers on github or similar :)
[19:08] <pedro_> 7clear
[19:09] <seb128> pedro_, keep it pointed on rodrigo and I will keep quiet about it ;-)
[19:09] <pedro_> lol
[19:09] <pedro_> seb128, will check at those (old segfaults)
[19:09] <seb128> thanks
[19:09] <pedro_> roadmr, congrats on being a bugcontroller!
[19:10] <seb128> or maybe those which didn't get an update for a year
[19:10] <roadmr> pedro_: thanks :) tho I think I haven't used my new superpowers yet heheh
[19:10] <pedro_> brendand, congrats to you as well :-)
[19:11] <pedro_> paultag, the firehose is pretty cool ;-)
[19:11]  * pedro_ grabbing bugs from there
[19:11] <paultag> pedro_: thanks! I spent a night over a few beers hacking that up, figured it would be fun to watch when I work
[19:12] <paultag> pedro_: at some point I'll add some filters and a bit of love to it (linked items, etc), but for now it's just eyecandy :)
[19:12] <pedro_> paultag, yeah pretty useful specially when you're not in IRC for looking at bugs-announce ;-)
[19:12] <pedro_> filters would be *neat*
[19:12] <pedro_> like for tag
[19:12] <paultag> oh cool idea
[19:13] <pedro_> so we can look at only 'apport-crash' reports , etc
[19:13] <pedro_> loving the idea
[19:13] <paultag> thanks :) -- good to know a night-time hack was on-target :)
[20:14] <brendand> roadmr - i've been using my new superpowers...
[20:14] <roadmr> brendand: to kill bugs?
[20:14] <brendand> that's why i'm invisible
[20:15] <brendand> yes - laser vision
[20:15] <roadmr> brendand: oh awesome
[20:15] <brendand> frankly i didn't think bug-control granted such superpowers
[20:16] <roadmr> hehe
[20:31] <RedSingularity> jibel: have you run into any similar bugs yet?  bug 807715 seems to have popped up with the latest updates today.
[20:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 807715 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with ImportError in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py: cannot import name GConf (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807715
[20:36] <jibel> RedSingularity, it looks like a missing required dependency. Why to you say it affects all installs of 11.10 ? Did you see other occurrences of this bug ?
[20:36] <jibel> s/to/do
[20:36] <RedSingularity> jibel: yep.  Just tried it on 2 other fresh installs.
[20:37] <RedSingularity> Comes with latest updates
[20:37] <paultag> heyya RedSingularity
[20:37] <paultag> RedSingularity: long time no see, mang
[20:37] <RedSingularity> paultag: PM!!
[20:37] <jibel> oh, I'll try with on fresh install
[20:37] <paultag> RedSingularity: go for it chap :)
[20:37] <RedSingularity> jibel: sounds good
[20:41] <jibel> bug 807518 might be linked in some way. The transition doesn't seem to be really smooth.
[20:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 807518 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with NameError in update_count(): global name 'glib' is not defined (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 36)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807518
[20:43] <RedSingularity> jibel: yeah.  That came up a few hours ago but does no seem to anymore.
[20:43] <RedSingularity> not*
[20:45] <RedSingularity> jibel: i do get that other one I just tested every time tho.  Not sure if its related to another package....  You think is an update-manager problem?
[20:45] <jibel> that's maybe a transient error due to the port to gtk3 and gsettings.
[20:46] <RedSingularity> jibel: leave it triaged you think then?
[20:46] <jibel> yes, lets wait if there's more coming.
[20:46] <RedSingularity> jibel: good deal :)
[20:50] <paultag> RedSingularity: P.S. did you get your control yet?
[20:50] <RedSingularity> paultag: yeah been there a few months now :)
[20:51] <paultag> RedSingularity: thank christ for that. Well done
[20:51] <RedSingularity> paultag: LOL  thanks man ;)
[20:51] <paultag> RedSingularity: you were wasting too much time asking people to set bug status fields
[20:52] <RedSingularity> paultag: yeah, I was becoming a burden alright! :)
[20:58]  * charlie-tca would wish for more burdens like that
[21:01] <paultag> charlie-tca: tell me about it. I'm really hurting for good solid developers who will take a task and really work on it. Such a shame, really.
[21:15] <jibel> RedSingularity, that's a missing dependency, report updated.
[22:36] <penguin42> anyone know how I switch from lightdm to gdm to see if a bug goes away ?
[22:37] <penguin42> ah it's ok, I did it with a stop lightdm    start gdm