| micahg | chrisccoulson: refresh the mozilla blueprint if you're doing more updates (I marked xiphos done) | 00:20 |
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| chrisccoulson | oh, ok, i didn't realise that | 00:24 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, there? | 00:24 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: np, just glad this stuff is getting done :) | 00:25 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 00:25 |
| bhearsum | chrisccoulson: FYI, we _may_ end up shipping Linux 3.6.19 / 5.0.1 builds on Monday | 00:27 |
| bhearsum | that call won't be made until tomorrow sometime, though | 00:27 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, thanks. will there actually be anything new in them for us? i tried looking at the new changesets | 00:27 |
| bhearsum | nope! there's only two mac-only patches | 00:28 |
| micahg | bhearsum: ugh, are there public meeting notes somewhere? | 00:28 |
| bhearsum | micahg: no :( | 00:28 |
| bhearsum | i can forward you both some mail, though | 00:28 |
| bhearsum | you guys may want to get on the release-drivers mailing list, too | 00:28 |
| micahg | ah, I saw the mac stuff in the delivery meeting though | 00:28 |
| bhearsum | do you want the summary mail? | 00:29 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, yeah, that would be useful. david ascher mentioned that at UDS last year too, but nothing ever progressed (wrt to the release-drivers list) | 00:29 |
| bhearsum | chrisccoulson: lemme see what i can do | 00:30 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, cool, thanks! | 00:30 |
| bhearsum | in the meantime ,where should i send this mail? | 00:30 |
| micahg | micah at ubuntu dot com would work for me | 00:31 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, chris.coulson at canonical dot com for me | 00:32 |
| bhearsum | k | 00:32 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 00:35 |
| micahg | bhearsum: thanks for the updates, but I don't think we need to worry about this | 00:35 |
| bhearsum | cool | 00:37 |
| bhearsum | is it accurate to say that you guys are "pretty interested in staying on top of the latest information with regard to chemspills and other releases"? | 00:40 |
| micahg | bhearsum: yes :) | 00:40 |
| chrisccoulson | yes, definitely :) | 00:40 |
| bhearsum | k :) | 00:40 |
| micahg | bhearsum: if I have lead time on chemspills, I can try to have them out the door same day | 00:40 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, that's definitely one area where we're not so good with at the moment | 00:40 |
| * micahg says this as he still hasn't pushed Thunderbird 3.1.11... | 00:41 | |
| bhearsum | alright, just sent mail | 00:42 |
| bhearsum | given that this info would help you guys simulship with us, i can't _imagine_ why it would be an issue | 00:42 |
| bhearsum | linux users getting updates later than everyone else has always made us sad | 00:42 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent, thanks | 00:42 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, we try to push as quick as possible, but chemspills are normally quite difficult | 00:43 |
| bhearsum | yeah | 00:50 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: shoot | 06:30 |
| chrisccoulson | hi bdrung_, how are you? | 09:17 |
| glenn_ | hi | 10:06 |
| glenn_ | ho can help me with calendar | 10:06 |
| glenn_ | in witchfile the Platform-specific directories | 10:14 |
| glenn_ | hi | 10:29 |
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| asac | chrisccoulson: fta gone? you own chromium now? | 11:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i need a faster laptop | 12:29 |
| chrisccoulson | according to launchpad, eclipse only takes 10 minutes to build, but it's been 30 minutes so far here :/ | 12:29 |
| glenn_ | is it so that i have Platform-specific directories to put in the chrome.manifest | 12:44 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, do you know which bits of eclipse use xulrunner? (ie, what functionality is missing if it doesn't exist) | 12:46 |
| chrisccoulson | i just did a build here without it, and i'd like to check things aren't broken | 12:46 |
| glenn_ | is it so that i have Platform-specific directories to put in the chrome.manifest | 12:55 |
| glenn_ | hi | 13:01 |
| chrisccoulson | uploading the daily builds across a 3g connection = not fun | 13:09 |
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| chrisccoulson | sigh @ https://launchpad.net/~silverwave/+archive/testing4 | 15:22 |
| chrisccoulson | he's copied our unpublished builds and published them to everyone already | 15:22 |
| chrisccoulson | i really don't know what this guy aims to do | 15:22 |
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| glenn_ | how can i make a xpi file | 16:13 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, i started looking at merging the functionalty of unitylauncher in to the messagingmenu-extension today | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i noticed that it does the unread count differently though, and i'm just wondering if you think we should make them the same | 16:15 |
| glenn_ | how can i make a xpi install file | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | (ie the messaging indicator displays the "new" count rather than "unread" count) | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | glenn_, this isn't a support channel, and we already gave you pointers yesterday | 16:16 |
| glenn_ | what channel is it here than | 16:17 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, because i'm so terrible at reading e-mails, this is what i get in the launcher icon: http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/Screenshot%20at%202011-07-08%2017:18:39.png ;) | 16:20 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: on my system eclipse takes 7-8 minutes ;) | 16:24 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, my system is slow ;) | 16:24 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: i think the help, the webbroser, the instant help/toolbox uses xulrunner | 16:25 |
| micahg | bdrung_: is paultag having any luck w/3.7? | 16:27 |
| * micahg wonders why eclipse takes so long for him... | 16:27 | |
| bdrung_ | micahg: he managed to get some deps updated/fixed, but we are currently blocked by one dep (help appreciated) | 16:27 |
| micahg | bdrung_: which one? | 16:27 |
| bdrung_ | mom, let me check | 16:28 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: com.ibm.icu_4.4.2.v20110208.jar -> icu4j | 16:29 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: can you help? | 16:29 |
| micahg | do you have a document explaining how this generally works? I know a little java, but have no idea how the libraries are interconnected | 16:29 |
| micahg | or maybe I can look at previous commits in the VCS of others doing something similar? | 16:30 |
| micahg | bdrung_: wait, do you just need this upgraded? | 16:31 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: ask in #debian-java on oftc (nthykier is the java expert). it needs to be updated and (here's the problem) the correct osgi metadata needs to be added so that eclipse finds it | 16:33 |
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| bdrung_ | micahg: just in case you didn't got it due to your reconnect: ask in #debian-java on oftc (nthykier is the java expert). it needs to be updated and (here's the problem) the correct osgi metadata needs to be added so that eclipse finds it | 16:43 |
| micahg | bdrung_: ok, thanks | 16:44 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: ha! :) Time to clear some of those unreads! | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, yeah, i've got quite a lot ;) | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/Screenshot%20at%202011-07-08%2019:18:45.png | 18:21 |
| chrisccoulson | matching counts :) | 18:22 |
| glenn_ | chrisccoulson, can i ask you a question about this https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM/XPCOM_changes_in_Gecko_2.0 | 18:24 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: yay! :) is that a recent version? | 18:26 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, it's basically this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/640281/ | 18:26 |
| chrisccoulson | (ie, LibUnity.jsm + a few extra lines of code) :) | 18:27 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, I still hope to be able to keep fennec going, but if it's blocking, you can drop it and if I have time, I'll add it back | 18:27 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, we shouldn't keep it in the archive atm, there's not a real use case for it until the mozilla platform has touch support on linux | 18:27 |
| chrisccoulson | and there's no point in us shipping a horribly outdated version | 18:28 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: cool - so we want to ensure that the Launcher displays the number of new, unread messages? | 18:28 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: as opposed to total unread messages? | 18:28 |
| chrisccoulson | i only noticed this morning that you said last night we still haven't shipped thunderbird 3.1.11, so i'd rather not add more packages in there ;) | 18:28 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: hmm, I thought touch at least in terms of mouse control was handled at the X level, but why wouldn't the touch support from android translate to linux? | 18:29 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yeah, it would be on my own time, not work | 18:29 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, yeah, this patch only displays new messages, which is in line with what the messaging indicator does too | 18:29 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, android doesn't use X | 18:29 |
| micahg | ah | 18:29 |
| micahg | trying to finish up thunderbird today... | 18:30 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, do you think this approach looks ok? | 18:30 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: it looks alright - assuming that this is the count we want to show. I thought that the Unity Launcher behaviour was supposed to be similar to the OSX dock badge behaviour, where we display the total unread messages. | 18:31 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, i think that's unclear, but evo currently only displays new messages too | 18:32 |
| chrisccoulson | and the launcher doesn't handle large counts all that well | 18:32 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: well, if that's the case, then yes, let's stick with the behaviour that Evo users are used to | 18:32 |
| chrisccoulson | in my case, i would see a permanent "***" in the launcher ;) | 18:32 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: maybe we can give them a choice? | 18:32 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i don't mind too much | 18:32 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: I like that this merges Unity Launcher and Messaging Menu though | 18:32 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: getting an accurate count of unread messages is actually quite tricky. Check out my latest Unity Launcher pushes. :) | 18:33 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it definitely slims things down a little | 18:33 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, yeah, i had a look at that too | 18:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i was going to ask in #ayatana what they think the correct behaviour should be, but mpt has finished for the week | 18:35 |
| chrisccoulson | and i never see any other designers in there :/ | 18:35 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: I think we should offer a choice. | 18:36 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: but I'm open to argument. :) | 18:37 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, yeah, i don't mind adding an option for showing the total unread count too | 18:38 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, is https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/overflow-priority/+merge/66821 ready to merge btw? | 18:39 |
| chrisccoulson | my current branch is based on this one, and i was going to create another merge request ;) | 18:39 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: oh! I hadn't noticed your update | 18:39 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/unitylauncher/+merge/67387 ;) | 19:30 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't do the total unread yet, but we can add that after if we want it | 19:31 |
| chrisccoulson | right, jo's desktop is upgraded to the firefox beta now :) | 20:44 |
| === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Firefox 5 10.04-10.10 http://is.gd/5Fyywu | Firefox 6.0b1 10.04-11.04 http://is.gd/WUM9i5 | Thunderbird 3.1.11 in http://is.gd/dsudW need testing | Firefox 3.6.18 (10.04-10.10) Firefox 5 (11.04)/Thunderbird 3.1.10 in Stable Releases | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/hdZc1 | ||
| * micahg can't wait for 7 with the 30% memory footprint improvement | 20:47 | |
| chrisccoulson | just use the nightlies ;) | 20:48 |
| chrisccoulson | that's all i use now | 20:48 |
| micahg | I do on my bleeding edge machine | 20:49 |
| chrisccoulson | jo is my guinea pig for the beta | 20:49 |
| micahg | it's nice :) | 20:49 |
| micahg | on my dev laptop that's still on natty, I'm staying close to what's in the archive or what I'll be pushing out next, I'm my own guinea pig :) | 20:49 |
| micahg | but I'm going to 6 now | 20:51 |
| * micahg wants to see if 5->6 has any impact on the 2.8GB of resident memory | 20:53 | |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, still there? | 20:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, hitting restart in the browser after a major version upgrade still doesn't work | 20:53 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i haven't had time to look at that | 20:54 |
| micahg | do we have a bug? | 20:54 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure | 20:54 |
| micahg | that should probably be milestoned for beta | 20:54 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: hey - what's up? | 20:55 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, i was just wondering whether to upload the launcher integration this evening | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | do you think https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/unitylauncher/+merge/67387 is ok? | 20:56 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: ah, i was just in the middle of reviewing it | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | oh,cool. thanks :) | 20:57 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: give me 10 min? | 20:57 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, sure. i'll be around here for a little bit | 20:57 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is ubufox still controlling the restart bar in firefox? | 20:57 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, yes, but the restart logic is all firefox | 20:57 |
| micahg | k | 20:57 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: can I assign to you or just milestone? | 21:00 |
| micahg | bug 807733 | 21:00 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 807733 in firefox "Firefox doesn't restart after major version upgrades" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807733 | 21:00 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, feel free to just milestone, i won't be looking at that for a little while, at least | 21:01 |
| chrisccoulson | can we drop the "major" as well? ;) | 21:02 |
| chrisccoulson | there's nothing major about 5->6 | 21:02 |
| micahg | it's as opposed to 5 -> 5.0.1 | 21:03 |
| chrisccoulson | well, "major" is the wrong term really, and it makes people think that they really are getting a major upgrade every 6 weeks | 21:03 |
| chrisccoulson | but that isn't the case | 21:03 |
| micahg | ugh, I guess it's all upgrades actually... | 21:04 |
| chrisccoulson | 4->5 < 3.6->4 ;) | 21:04 |
| micahg | or rather any version bump that modifies that path... | 21:04 |
| micahg | will clarify in bug | 21:04 |
| chrisccoulson | that can't be a new problem then, that stuff hasn't changed for a long time | 21:04 |
| micahg | yes, I was looking at it at one point, I think the bug is buried in one of the other source packages | 21:06 |
| micahg | *firefox source packages | 21:07 |
| micahg | I thought it would've gone away with the work you did regarding setting it as a default app (look at the bin path instead of the lib path) | 21:08 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: merged! Thanks! | 21:09 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, that wouldn't affect it, as i think it just launches $appdir/firefox | 21:09 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, excellent, thanks. will get that uploaded in a minute | 21:09 |
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| BUGabundo | guud evening | 22:28 |
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