[04:18] On a Xubuntu box, how do I ask the cpu temperature? [07:08] [Jono Bacon] Community Leadership Summit 2011 A Few Weeks Away! - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/08/community-leadership-summit-2011-a-few-weeks-away/ [07:25] Good early morning peeps [07:45] g'morning! [07:46] Morning all [07:50] MooDoo, I must say Nottingham was dead as a door nail on Tuesday :( [07:51] Quietest I've ever seen it! [07:54] Morning. [08:03] morning all [08:12] I just realised that I probably can attend OggCamp this year. [08:12] yay! [08:13] all things being equal and nothing that can't be postponed by a week waiting for me in Finland... [08:13] great! [08:13] I'm trying very hard to find good things in life, as you may have noticedc [08:13] so [08:13] yay [08:16] in the meantime, I'll amuse myself with googling expensive cars, jewelry and home appliances. [08:17] one of these things is not like the others [08:17] mmmm white goods [08:18] http://drool.popey.com/ [08:18] Myrtti: \o/ [08:18] does a 3D printer that prints with chocolate count as a home appliance? [08:21] morning [08:21] Myrtti: It counts as *the* home appliance [08:21] Myrtti: a 3d printer that prints with chocolate will soon count as a basic human right ;) [08:22] on the other hand, I'm also googling robotic lawnmowers and air source heat pumps [08:23] Myrtti: Robotic lawn mowers? Like a Roomba's big brother? :) [08:24] Husqvarna has had robotic lawn mowers before roombas existed :-) [08:27] hmm - nasty wet day and afternoon off [08:27] robotic lawn moweres sounds like a hilariously scary idea [08:27] I want one [08:27] autonomous whirly blades of death [08:27] think it's time to give the pink laptop an ubuntu spray can pimping [08:28] BigRedS: combine that with one of those quadcopters...very scary [08:29] yeah well I've recently gained an ownership of a detached house on a hillside with lots of bushes and odd shaped plantings that nobody wants or enjoys to mow... [08:30] so giving the job to our robotic overlords would be nice, if I only had the money to invest on such gear. [08:31] once you start on that route, they will soon take over and we'll all be dammed! [08:31] strictly speaking I've recently gained an ownership of a half of a detached house [08:32] Myrtti: an arduino, a chainsaw, old lawnmower and some glue - job done :) [08:32] I've not yet decided should I go carve my half with an axe [08:32] or just dynamite the house down and split the pile of rubble into halfs and quarters [08:33] danfish: that sounds terribly like work [08:33] pay a teenager to maintain it [08:33] oimon: there's more truth in your words than you know... [08:34] sadly :-| [08:35] aw, now I need to balance this discussion out with pictures of expensive jewelry [08:55] Morning [08:57] lo [08:59] Yello [09:00] ah daubers, just the man. Myrtti needs an arduino powered, chainsaw and strimmer-wielding deathbot to trim the garden [09:01] * popey glances out the window [09:01] me too! [09:02] danfish: unfortunatley the wife has rules about things that a) Might break the law, b) might kill someone and c) Might end up taking over the universe and using it's subjugated human slaves to inflict terrible crimes upon the rest of the universe and any parallel to this one [09:02] Otherwise, I'd be there with my soldering iron ready [09:02] aw [09:02] She threatened to put it in her wedding vows [09:03] daubers: it's always the little details......... [09:04] danfish: Yup :( [09:11] daubers: you're really that close to taking over the world with robots? :) [09:14] MartijnVdS: When you're wife trains in law, she quickly learns to not leave any stone unturned [09:14] MartijnVdS: I think there was also a clause about getting the law changed so I could specifically do something was also frowned upon also [09:15] haha :) [09:21] Hello. [09:27] aloha [09:27] Hello czajkowski , how things your neck of the woods? [09:28] ntb, could end up in A&E befor the day is out as i can't move and i've a flight to get in the morning so a day of lying in bed is ahead of me [09:29] on the plus side caught up with entire family yesterday [09:29] so that should do me for another 12 months === denny_ is now known as denny [09:29] heh [09:29] * AlanBell sends hugs [09:29] wanted to go to lahinch today but need to be in the house for a call at 5:30 [09:29] been a long week [09:30] next week will feel like a holiday [09:30] I am off to Berlin next week [09:31] nice [09:32] Fun [09:32] czajkowski: Still got back problems? [09:34] yup [09:34] driving walking standing travelling hasn't helped this week [09:34] urgh [09:35] czajkowski: tried the McKenzie books/method? [09:35] StevenR: they used to work great now too sore to do them [09:35] czajkowski: ahh :( [09:35] waiting to go back and get 4 epidurals in back week after next [09:35] so hopefully sorted [09:45] Hmmm... OU course starts the day before I go to Egypt for 10 days..... not the best timing ever... [09:46] less optimal [09:46] Oh well, eeepc is going to egypt [09:47] might retrofit some dust filters to the air vents [09:49] ok, canon T2i [09:49] er oops [10:02] morning all [10:45] good morning everyone. [10:58] good morning brobostigon [10:58] hey all [10:58] orning BigRedS [10:58] hi willz === willz is now known as Xenope [10:59] can i ask some retarded ubuntu questions lol [10:59] On-topic discussion? If you must :) [10:59] Xenope: That, we cannot answer until you've asked them. [10:59] Xenope: fire away, [11:00] lol, well how can i install a twitter client that actually works [11:00] i've tried several they don't connect lol [11:01] Xenope: gwibber works, [11:01] I shall try it now :) [11:01] :) [11:01] brobostigon: oxymoron [11:01] bigcalm: ? [11:01] Xenope: hotot is apparently good [11:01] * oimon uses hotot [11:01] brobostigon: humour [11:01] popey: oh, ok. [11:01] Atempted [11:02] bigcalm: sorry i didnt get it, [11:02] One might also say that those two words are mutually exlusive [11:04] huzza! this seems to be working fine, danke [11:05] Xenope: you exobuzz? [11:05] I don't knwo what that means [11:05] nvm [11:05] explain and I shall answer :P [11:05] dont worry [11:06] Ah, the answer is no.. [11:08] What am I still doing here? [11:09] Silly revo [11:11] * popey hugs his revo(s) [11:12] Actually, it's one 'toy' purchase that is in everyday/constant use [11:12] heh, ditto [11:13] and here. [11:13] My brother got a revo on the grounds that it'd be easier for him to bring it round to mine to make me fix it :( [11:14] i have a load of linux machine in my office that are perfectly quiet, but as soon as i get a windows box in the room, it is always "doing something"...tinkle tinkle of the hard drive all day long [11:14] even with no apps open [11:15] I am impressed with it's hd playback. [11:15] is yours a frontend? [11:15] just set the hard drive to stop spinning after a while ? [11:15] oimon: I have an ARM netbook here.. it freaks me out because it makes no sound.. I almost want a buzzer in it, just to let me know it's on. [11:15] "comfort sound" [11:15] lol [11:15] popey: yah [11:15] SSD too Daviey? [11:16] the XP tinkle click tinkle is v irritating [11:16] is that a toshiba ac100 ? [11:16] oimon: Has SDHC/MMC on the mainboard [11:16] popey: yah [11:16] does it have SATA on the mobo? [11:16] do us a "sudo lshw -html > make_alan_jealous.html" [11:17] not opened it yet, but the case would not fit it in TBH. [11:17] popey: will do late, it's in the car. === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [11:22] Daviey: feel free to give it to me [11:22] gord: do you still use yours? [11:22] oh yes. [11:23] popey, yup, i drag it around the house with me - its a nice little machine [11:23] reminds me, I still have the meenee here :D [11:36] AlanBell: Is this any interest? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/08/cabinet_office_negotiates_with_microsoft/ [11:39] a little bit [11:40] not massively surprised [11:45] DJones: today is a good day to release bad news [11:45] AlanBell: Thats very true [11:53] DJones: seen what I am working on with the Cabinet Office? [11:54] I think I read something you gave a link to recently [11:54] http://twitter.com/#!/alanbell_libsol/status/89284347508695040 [11:55] or in fact what the hell, have a play with it http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:3000 [11:55] Ah yes, I saw that earlier [11:56] there should be a production version of that on a .gov.uk domain in a few weeks [12:14] AlanBell: you do realise that the url is effectively public anyway [12:14] http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Would+Open+Source+software+protect+me+from+a+Zombie+Invasion%3F%22 [12:15] yeah, it isn't a massive secret [12:15] just don't want people getting confused [12:16] popey: though these results don't point to :3000 (at least here), so you'd just get a 404 [12:16] aahh, it was on port 80 for a few hours, must have been spidered when it was [12:17] ah [12:18] good point [12:18] i do love how stgraber stays dormant for weeks then pops up with useful comments now and then [12:18] an asset to the channel ;) [12:18] * Gary farts [12:18] * popey wafts [12:18] :) [12:20] Hi for all.. [12:21] I'm in London and looking for a job like a Linux administrator or support. [12:21] May can someone help me? [12:21] are you experienced? [12:21] a litle [12:22] I work a 10 years with linux [12:22] vflinux: are you willing to move? [12:22] get your CV to a bunch of agencies [12:22] I was certified Conectiva Linux [12:22] agencies are evil :( [12:22] I sent my CV for a lot of agencies [12:22] but till now [12:22] If I wanted to run a crime syndicate, I'd start a job agency [12:22] nothing... [12:23] :( [12:23] vflinux: fancy working in a noc in cambridgeshire? [12:23] vflinux: Following the linux jobs mailing list? [12:23] vflinux: do you have a valid work permit to work in the UK [12:23] yes [12:23] I'm Brazilian / Italian Citzen [12:23] also ensure that the English on your CV is immaculate [12:24] vflinux: email jobs@positive-internet.com if you're up for working in cambridgeshire [12:24] grammatical errors on the CV have a tendency to put some employers off [12:24] Please. I'd like to have less work to do :) [12:24] my wife watches a lot fo escape to the country and i'm getting tempted to up sticks [12:25] oimon: you can come here, too :) [12:25] Grate [12:25] Well [12:26] I'll send my cv for this email [12:26] Let us know when you've sent it (myself or BigRedS) and we'll poke someone to go and check the email :) === Patrick is now known as Guest42861 [12:28] * oimon has had a nightmare of a week with a windows server :( [12:29] * Myrtti rubs her chin and considers sending a CV herself [12:29] hmmmm [12:30] Please do, the more the merrier! It's linux sysadmin / tech support, for website hosting. No windows servers here ;) [12:30] kirrus: meh :'( that last bit made me cry [12:31] Well, almost no windows servers. For some reason, finding someone who'll do door-control systems on linux is almost impossible [12:31] * Gary sadly supports windows servers [12:31] kirrus: can I support your door access system then? [12:31] kirrus: I know a couple of people who made one of those for the comp sci soc at Swansea [12:31] kirrus: All rfid and lovely [12:31] Hi [12:32] daubers: not all agencies are evil [12:32] I sent my cv for the email above [12:32] Gary: heh.. it's a single box, I don't think it needs support, considering half of us run windows at home for gaming. You could always apply as a trainee for switching to 'nix full time :) [12:33] My cv is not a "Greate Deal" [12:33] daubers: cool! Have they got a site or 'code available? It might not work with our (proprietory) RFID card readers, is the only down side [12:33] vflinux: I'll let someone know [12:33] kirrus: hehe, I'd love to work at a noc, but with a mortgage and 15 years windows support exp. I can't afford the step sideways [12:33] If you can help me... [12:34] I pay a beer for us \o/! [12:34] I'm in London a 40 days [12:35] no money no laptop no girls, no linux...GRRRRRRRRRR [12:35] vflinux: No linux AND no girls? [12:35] Gary: that's a shame :( Any chance you'd be able to find a dual-host, so that you'd be able to get the linux experience? [12:38] kirrus: Drop them an email [12:39] kirrus: http://sucs.org/ [12:39] kirrus: http://projects.sucs.org/projects/doorcode [12:41] daubers: cheers! I've passed it onto the guy who's been trying to replace the windows box :) [12:43] People [12:43] that's what we are, vflinux? :) [12:44] some comunity event like installfast or something like that? [12:45] I need some to do! it's anoy me...and I can't stay here in internet point for a long time...much money to pay [12:46] I need install linux to somebody [12:47] vflinux: Check out: http://london.hackspace.org.uk/ [12:57] First I want thank to every body [12:59] I was these days in the Ferdora-uk channel and I was treted like a dog... [12:59] thank's very much [13:01] ah, my own personal sodastream concentrate that nobody else touches ♥ [13:01] :) [13:02] vflinux: thats sad to hear [13:04] yes.. [13:04] for me... [13:04] I come from Brazil [13:04] that the things are a litle bit diferent [13:05] But I'm happy with ubuntu-uk channel [13:07] I will install more Ubuntu Linux in the future... [13:10] is there an easy way to find out which chromium tabs i have open, and switch to it? finding it difficult with > 50 tabs [13:10] Myrtti: why what flavour is it? [13:10] close the tabs you don't use? [13:10] oimon, try typing in to the address bar the name of the website you want, at least firefox, will switch to the tab you have that website open in [13:11] gord: yes, firefox is cool like that [13:11] all the major browsers tend to have the same features these days so i'm assuming chrome does too [13:11] davmor2: dandelion burdock - it's a flavour totally unknown in here, people go "bwha?" when I tell them about it, and they see it as "coke with a weird taste" [13:11] chromium is rather lacking [13:11] the awesome bar in chromium is not called the awesome bar for a reason [13:11] oh well then i dunno, maybe an extension? [13:11] Myrtti: d&b rules [13:12] gord: i think i just like firefox too much..hope they fix the memory issues soon [13:12] time to spend my walk about 3ds coins on pictures -_- [13:12] Myrtti: Hmmmmmm dandelion and burdock hmmmmmmmmmmm [13:12] Myrtti: trust me you wouldn't keep it in the UK :) [13:12] my mii now has kitty cat ears, freaking out all the children i wander past i hope [13:14] davmor2: I know [13:14] apart when at home, dsample doesn't like carbonated drinks at all :-D [13:16] gord: I got a bargain in buxton last week Dungeon Seige III for ps3 for 19.99 10 off the game card and it had 10 off it anyway looks like a good game so far :) little slower than I'm used to and hard as hell in places but fun :) [13:16] davmor2, yeah they screwed up the co-op in that game so its not selling well, shame, its by obsidian so it must have a good story [13:18] gord: generally a great game, not quite on par with the others but I played them on PC so it was a different kinda game. Gfx are beautiful, game play engaging etc [13:28] cheers all [13:28] have a nice weekend [13:31] I have to go by now [13:31] I thank's every body for your atention [13:32] have a nice weekend! [13:33] see ya vflinux [13:36] nice chap [13:36] ya [13:38] :-> [13:56] *sigh* [13:57] s/*sigh*/smile/ [13:59] not looking forward to the school reunion tomorrow :S [14:04] pft @ having to kludge around the nannywall to be able to watch the shuttle launch [14:49] Oooooh... finally got access to google+ [14:49] so i see [14:49] so did bigcalm [14:50] I'm starting to get tempted by these social networking sites I thought were so evil before :p [14:50] \o/ [14:50] is facebooks privacy policy still a complete joke? [14:50] * hamitron proposes giving Azelphur a free lesson on stubborness [14:50] google+ is soooooo yesterday ;) [14:51] lol [14:51] How long until I delete my Facebook profile? [14:51] can you delete your facebook profile? [14:51] ;/ [14:51] I've just signed up to facespacebuzztwitlinkwave+ [14:52] :D [14:53] It feels as though Google+ has had less hype than Wave. I wonder if it will fair better [14:53] Wave? [14:54] I think + stands a better chance because people have half a clue what it's *for* [14:54] wave was really quite interesting, but didn't have a stand-out purpose [14:54] popey: does it show me having shared a photo? [14:55] I have to say that I am extreamly impressed by the instant upload feature of the android app [14:56] gonna be a while before I get to play with plus tho. the whole nae pals thing don't mix well with all this social stuff :) [14:56] * Ng does his annual wondering about who is good for low cost UK VPSes [14:57] * shauno goes back to trying to turn powerpoint trainings into something that doesn't make you stab yourself in the face :( [14:58] Most of my long term friends are on older mail systems than Google. Not going to be adding them any time soon [14:59] yeah, I'm wondering what to do with g+ [14:59] anyone used openfiler as a NAS? it's pretty useful [15:00] Ng: free ec2 microinstance for a year? [15:01] danfish: that is currently my leading contender, but I'm shopping around to see if there's a good VPS option :) [15:02] Ng you could just setup a microinstance for a year and pay nothing and use this time to shop around for a good VPS option :) I'm using it as my webserver at the moment. [15:02] hehe [15:03] I probably want to do EBS root though, which may ruin my ability to use a free instance [15:05] Ng: I'll give you a free one, running an old version of centos? [15:05] Daviey: that sounds.... horrible ;) [15:05] Ng: No reason for that, other than to be mean:) [15:05] Daviey: I don't mind being mean to centos! [15:06] i can give you access to a zx spectrum? it might be a better system than what Daviey is proposing [15:07] you have an internet enabled spectrum? [15:07] Ng: bitfolk have capacity now [15:07] Ng: I just got one [15:07] well no, but we can print off screens and then input them to an internet enabled computer [15:07] I've got a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 4 - it's better than the ZX Spectrum...it got DUAL floppy disk drive! [15:08] popey: interesting [15:08] it doesn't work, but...dual drives! [15:08] popey: their webpage says they're out of capacity ;) [15:08] 15:08:26 up 3:30, 4 users, load average: 0.51, 0.38, 0.15 [15:08] thats how long I've had it [15:08] irc channel says capacity none [15:08] he hasnt updated the website yet [15:08] Ng - I think there's some EBS with free tier? [15:08] speak to grifferz Ng [15:09] i thought bitfolk always had capacity at the moment though [15:09] or was that untill the memory upgrades were done? [15:10] haha, within an hour of being up I have denyhosts blocking IPs [15:11] they want your bitcoins [15:13] Ng - this is what you get with the free tier (not just EC2) http://aws.amazon.com/free/ [15:13] JGJones: ooh ta [15:14] what a friggin day [15:19] anyone else watching the atlantis flight? [15:19] 9 mins to launch :) [15:20] yes, on bbc news 24. [15:21] i got it online here - http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/nasa-hd-tv :) [15:21] i didn't realise that they keep stopping the countdown clock [15:23] there was only one hold I've seen so far, at 9 mins. which is planned, apparently [15:23] wait for the lowfrequency boom. :) [15:23] but they're back to making funny noises, so \o/ [15:24] it does create a sonic boom doesnt it? [15:25] brobostigon: http://orbitalhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/mit-space-shuttle-sonic-boom.jpg [15:25] http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ - taking off in 1 minute [15:26] 1 minute to go :) [15:26] live TV [15:26] omg - failure 31 secs until launch.... [15:27] heh. that's when it's meant to handover to the onboard computer =x [15:27] * shauno waits for the lil dude in the pentium suit to run out 'n reboot it [15:27] doh...did they say what's the failture? (assuming there's audio?) [15:28] not sure / clear. that was more TLAs than humans are designed to deal with [15:28] phew! [15:28] counting down! [15:29] Lift off! [15:30] theres your boom brobostigon, just before it went into the clouds [15:30] yes.' [15:30] you see it collect it's own little cloud for a few seconds [15:33] It might have been done many many times, but still amazing how fast it's getting into space. Can now see the curve of Earth. [15:33] * DJones googles "Trans-sonic", I've heard sub-sonic & super-sonic used, but never trans-sonic [15:33] thought my feed was broken for a moment there, but you can see the earth moving. it just gets really peaceful, really quickly [15:33] intergalactic planetary planetary intergalactic [15:34] JGJones: it just hits 26000 mph as it goes through the clouds. [15:34] directhex: Mach 0.8 - 1.2 [15:34] really iffy bit of aerodynamics [15:34] Wonder what the future rockets will be like after the shuttles. [15:34] We, DJones ^^ [15:34] JGJones: Ask Elon Musk [15:35] gah. that was meant to be 'er' [15:35] JGJones: the replacement is to be like the ones before it [15:35] BigRedS: Was reading the same info [15:35] Big column with a massive engine at the bottom [15:36] heh that's pretty much true. Although I recall reading that NASA doesn't have a clue how to put together a Saturn V anymore - engineering plans etc was lost? [15:36] BigRedS: More efficient that way for heavy lofting (which is the phase we're going through) [15:36] too embarassed to ask the russians for a copy I guess [15:36] shauno: They'd go ask SpaceX instead these days [15:36] or the ESA [15:36] JGJones: yeah, there was a lot of thought that we'll never make one of those again at the beginning of the STS programme [15:36] I'm just assuming the russians would have copies of the original ;) [15:37] where 'we' = 'the americans', I suppose [15:37] shauno, They did ask the Russians. [15:37] daubers: yeah, STS never really became teh shuttle it was supposed do anyway [15:37] But the Russians was too embarassed to ask the Chinese for their copy of their copy. [15:38] BigRedS, You can blame the US military for that. [15:38] Stage 2 separation successful [15:39] JGJones: I do :) [15:39] pft. stop cutting back to the ground. I've been watching the ground for hours [15:39] BigRedS: I'm more excited about the stuff coming from SpaceX these days. Old Musk trying to put people on Mars privatley [15:40] daubers: I'm quite intrigued by the usaf having another go at what they wanted from sts [15:40] shame the russian Buran one never took off either [15:41] http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/11/rare-photos-of-russian-buran-space.html [15:41] mm, it *is* an expensive way to go to space, though [15:41] not that there's really a cheap way [15:41] I don't think it's really that expensive :/ [15:42] BigRedS: That first bit is hard, once you're up it's relativley easy [15:42] Blasted gravity wells [15:42] popey heh I was just looking up the Buran - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buran_(spacecraft) [15:42] one figure I saw bandied around recently, was that nasa's budget this year, was roughly equal to what the US military was spending on air conditioning in afghanistan [15:42] http://www.buran.ru/htm/molniya.htm [15:42] By no means whatsoever is the Buran a carbon copy of the Shuttle...that's impossible...just a pure fluke they look alike :-D [15:43] it /is/ a lot of money, but in that kinda context, nasa's a bargain [15:43] shauno oh yeah, but it's cheaper to put a rocket on a stick [15:43] did they take off yet? [15:43] which is why that's what the soviets did [15:43] http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/q0153.shtml [15:43]