| bryceh | /etc/lightdm/Xsession | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | That doesn't actually start the server, though. | 00:01 |
| bryceh | well it's just /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/authority/0 -nolisten tcp vt7 | 00:02 |
| bryceh | compared with /usr/bin/X :0 -nr -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-jn8cMJ/database -nolisten tcp vt7 | 00:03 |
| cnd | could the -nr have something to do with it? | 00:16 |
| RAOF | Unlikely; that just turns on BGNoneRoot. | 00:17 |
| RAOF | Which interacts not at all with input. | 00:17 |
| cnd | are we 100% sure? | 00:20 |
| cnd | is there a way I could check it? | 00:20 |
| RAOF | Woo! More intel fbc. | 01:28 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: what are you thinking, --with-extra-module-dir="/usr/lib/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/xorg/extra-modules" | 01:44 |
| * Sarvatt saw the xorg-server task opened up | 01:44 | |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Indeed I am. | 01:44 |
| RAOF | Well, actually, --with-extra-module-dir="/usr/lib/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/xorg/extra-modules,/usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules\ | 01:44 |
| RAOF | " | 01:44 |
| Sarvatt | i'm not sure that it'll take 3, hmm | 01:45 |
| bryceh | cnd, heh lp #807306 just came in | 01:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 807306 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 | 01:45 |
| bryceh | looks like you're not alone | 01:45 |
| Sarvatt | in kvm? hmm that should be easy to reproduce | 01:46 |
| Sarvatt | will check tomorrow's daily live | 01:47 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Looks like X should handle as many comma-delimited components to that path as we want. | 01:47 |
| Sarvatt | kvm -cdrom oneiric-desktop-i386.iso -boot d -m 512 --vga vmware | 01:48 |
| Sarvatt | love how easy that is | 01:48 |
| Sarvatt | oh? thought i read it wouldn't in the patch, my bad | 01:48 |
| Sarvatt | awesome, if thats all it takes it'd be easy | 01:48 |
| RAOF | The patch doesn't change how the string is parsed at all, and the parser seems to loop over the strtok components, so… :) | 01:49 |
| RAOF | Hm. Multiarching stuff is an excellent way to discover locally installed cruft. | 02:18 |
| RAOF | “What do you mean you can't resolve shlibdeps for /usr/lib/libpixman? Oh, it's now in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/? What's that local copy doing there?” | 02:19 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: the logfile on that bug shows no input devices | 06:07 |
| RAOF | Which would make it Sarvatt's ‘udev doesn't fire for input devices’ bug. | 06:08 |
| bryceh | also cirrus. ick | 06:09 |
| tjaalton | that's what kvm has | 06:09 |
| tjaalton | cirrus, that is | 06:09 |
| bryceh | XAA yum | 06:10 |
| tjaalton | most of them do just that :) | 06:10 |
| bryceh | is there a bug # for sarvatt's udev bug? | 06:11 |
| tjaalton | i've not seen that before | 06:12 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure if he actually filed it. | 06:19 |
| RAOF | It looks like it's time for your old friend, deadly neurotoxin. | 07:43 |
| tjaalton | happy boozing :) | 07:46 |
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| tseliot | RAOF: still around? | 15:42 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: did you ever try downgrading lightdm? | 15:54 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, lightdm never worked for me | 15:54 |
| cnd | so I wouldn't know which version to try? | 15:55 |
| Sarvatt | yeah but this is happening to more people now post alpha 2 so it might have just been reintroduced | 15:55 |
| Sarvatt | checking | 15:55 |
| Sarvatt | 0.4.1-0ubuntu1 | 15:55 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, what bug? | 15:56 |
| Sarvatt | seb128: the one you guys are talking about, cnd hit it after an upgrade about 18 hours ago too | 15:56 |
| seb128 | which is 2 hours early than the bug report | 15:57 |
| seb128 | i.e 10utc yesterday | 15:57 |
| Sarvatt | but he had it back in may as well and had been using gdm this whole time | 15:57 |
| seb128 | it's not lightdm | 15:57 |
| seb128 | kenvandine said on #ubuntu-desktop he gets it with startx | 15:57 |
| Sarvatt | gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d in ~/.xinitrc and an xinit works | 15:57 |
| cnd | I get it with xdm too | 15:58 |
| Sarvatt | ah | 15:58 |
| Sarvatt | ok then nevermind :) | 15:58 |
| seb128 | <kenvandine> i am guessing udev | 15:58 |
| seb128 | maybe udev gets the plugin event and configures the device | 15:58 |
| seb128 | confirmed, re-plugging in the mouse and keyboard worked | 15:58 |
| seb128 | but doesn't work at boot | 15:58 |
| seb128 | <kenvandine> looking at the X logs, it isn't finding input devices | 15:59 |
| Sarvatt | https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 is another bug, apparently we should be able to reproduce it in kvm with today's daily-live | 15:59 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 807306 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Medium,Incomplete] | 15:59 |
| seb128 | jibel says he doesn't get it | 15:59 |
| Sarvatt | oh no daily live today, darn | 15:59 |
| Sarvatt | alpha 2 is fine it was something updated just after | 15:59 |
| jibel | we have a list of package updated in bug 807538 | 16:00 |
| jibel | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/807538/+attachment/2197590/+files/history.log | 16:00 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 807538 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Keyboard and touchpad problems (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807538 | 16:00 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 807538 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Keyboard and touchpad problems (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Incomplete] | 16:00 |
| seb128 | that one has an xorg server update | 16:02 |
| Sarvatt | thats natty? | 16:02 |
| jibel | no oneiric, but looks like a mutant | 16:03 |
| seb128 | that's a natty to oneiric upgrader | 16:03 |
| seb128 | would be nicer to find somebody who has the issue on oneiric to oneiric update | 16:03 |
| Sarvatt | i did oneiric alpha 2 installs on 2 machines and just fully updated them and they are fine | 16:08 |
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| Sarvatt | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-July/004255.html hrm | 16:22 |
| Sarvatt | that also has /etc/nsswitch.conf in it and libnss was crashing with gdm, wonder if its related | 16:23 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: dbus? | 16:41 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, what about dbus? | 16:41 |
| Sarvatt | it had a huge update and switched to upstart, wondering if something got left around on upgrades breaking things that arent there on a fresh install | 16:42 |
| cnd | hmm | 16:43 |
| cnd | let me know if you can think of something for me to try | 16:44 |
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| Sarvatt | so the emails from people trying to use xorg-edgers on debian are getting a bit out of hand, I wonder if launchpad will ever support debian PPAs.. I'd be more than happy to maintain a debian version of it but our xserver and mesa are so drasically different you can't just use it that way anymore for the past few years. I use debian-unstable debian/ for everything but xserver mesa intel nouveau ati synaptics and evdev so that stuff wouldn't change bu | 23:23 |
| Sarvatt | t thats like the majority of the usage by far | 23:23 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, seriously? how many people trying to do that? | 23:26 |
| Sarvatt | enough to make me think it'd be worth maintaining a debian specific version when I dont use it :P just counted 31 emails this week, usually people leaving ubuntu for debian over unity and wanting the same thing they used to have (wait until they get gnome 3 pulled in automatically) lol | 23:31 |
| bryceh | oh yeah, the unity dissidents will probably die down in time | 23:35 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, probably if you don't do it, if there's enough demand someone will volunteer on the debian side to do something similar | 23:36 |
| bryceh | and if not... tough titties ;-) | 23:37 |
| bryceh | I'd like to know why so many people run -edgers... it sort of implies we're missing something in the distro itself | 23:37 |
| Sarvatt | because you get things like 20% speed improvements overnight and its drastically less unstable than people think, that matters to gamers :) | 23:38 |
| Sarvatt | but the person who cares about that is probably more willing to forgive a bug they hit than someone who just expects the desktop to work perfectly | 23:42 |
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