| CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 177 * debian/ (changelog copyright) Add MIT license for kdepasswd/passwd.h | 00:05 |
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| kubu2 | shouldn't the ppa for 4.6.5 be qualified more to say kubuntu-ppa/ppa ninstead of just kubuntu-ppa? | 01:23 |
| kubu2 | *instead | 01:23 |
| kubu2 | IIRC adding just kubuntu-ppa will open up backports, beta, experimental and staging which may not be what you want? | 01:36 |
| kubu2 | oh well.. | 01:52 |
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| Quintasan | Good morning | 06:27 |
| bambee | morning | 07:12 |
| Quintasan | bambee: \o | 07:14 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ping | 07:15 |
| bambee | hey ;) | 07:15 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: first you ask for a vote on licensing, then you complain about copyright, I do not follow | 07:36 |
| apachelogger | on a general remark: this is more complicated than you might think | 07:37 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: When did I complain about copyright? | 07:37 |
| apachelogger | like saying copyright rests with kubuntu developers | 07:37 |
| Quintasan | And it does not? | 07:37 |
| apachelogger | which I have seen not only kubuntu developers use | 07:37 |
| apachelogger | 2 problems with that | 07:37 |
| apachelogger | a) if the person who uses it is not a kubuntu developer there would need to be an explicit copyright assignment | 07:38 |
| apachelogger | "I ronald mcdonald assign all might copyrights to the kubuntu-developers ...." | 07:38 |
| apachelogger | which directly leads to | 07:38 |
| apachelogger | b) kubuntu developers is no legal entity, as such it leads to a bazillion questions regarding excution of rights | 07:39 |
| apachelogger | now WRT licensing | 07:39 |
| apachelogger | as yofel already said, if you have Files: debian/* then that license applies to everything in there | 07:39 |
| apachelogger | including patches, manpages and whatnot | 07:40 |
| apachelogger | you licnese gpl3+ but upstream is gpl2, can the patch even be gpl3+ now? | 07:42 |
| Quintasan | In short this leads to a licensing PITA | 07:43 |
| Quintasan | What's the advantage of debian/* being under the same license as the rest of the source? | 07:44 |
| apachelogger | upstream can simply pick patches and include them | 07:44 |
| apachelogger | without us ever doing anything | 07:44 |
| apachelogger | also it prevents license incompatibility issues (for the better part) | 07:45 |
| apachelogger | at any rate, the KC could not force people into licensing or copyrighting anything anyhow | 07:46 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: did you by any chance see mterry's reply on grantlee MIR? | 07:50 |
| apachelogger | the current package is highly confusing indeed, however I know that unpatched version leads to compile error on ARM (tried that already :D) | 07:50 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: did you upload anything? | 07:55 |
| apachelogger | the wiki doesn't look much different | 07:55 |
| Quintasan | only kwordquiz and okular | 07:55 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Mostly because it gets rejected | 07:56 |
| Quintasan | some packageset magic as ScottK | 07:56 |
| Quintasan | or I misunderstood something | 07:56 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yep, i know, altho i still have to figure out how to make it work over LAN | 07:57 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: cool | 07:58 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: I do not understand though | 07:59 |
| apachelogger | you should be able to upload all new packages | 07:59 |
| apachelogger | as they end up in universe and you are motu | 07:59 |
| Quintasan | Last time I tried to upload okular it got rejected | 07:59 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: cause it is in main | 07:59 |
| apachelogger | okular was uploaded already | 08:00 |
| Quintasan | Then I tried retrying kwordquiz build on armel but it turned out I do not have permissions | 08:00 |
| apachelogger | that is also in main :P | 08:00 |
| Quintasan | Apparently, Kubuntu Developers have access to main | 08:01 |
| Quintasan | At least the Kubuntu seed | 08:02 |
| shadeslayer | morning :) | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: the package set, not the seeded packages | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | then you'd also be able to upload linux cause that is part of our seeding chain | 08:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yo | 08:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: is rocs fixed yet? | 08:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes | 08:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: did you up the new tar to the ppa? | 08:04 |
| shadeslayer | i fixed it last night, but Quintasan was going to bed so he couldn't upload it | 08:04 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Then what can I actually do with Kubuntu Developer powers? | 08:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/rocs_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2 | 08:05 |
| shadeslayer | packaging from bzr | 08:05 |
| shadeslayer | rocs upstream has also agreed to move all LGPL 2 licensed code to LGPL 2.1 | 08:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you should add those to the wiki :P | 08:05 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: is workspace uploaded? | 08:05 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 08:06 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I just uploaded it | 08:06 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: wiki update please ^^ | 08:06 |
| shadeslayer | lemme update if first :P | 08:06 |
| debfx | Quintasan: the package sets aren't updated automatically, once all new kde packages are uploaded we can ask cjwatson to update it | 08:06 |
| Quintasan | Oh, I see | 08:07 |
| CIA-52 | [rocs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110709080741-34u357dsp3bwekc0 * debian/copyright merge | 08:07 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Apparently, kde-l10n-nl tarball was update | 08:07 |
| Quintasan | updated* | 08:07 |
| apachelogger | oh | 08:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: srsly, get a proper editor :P | 08:08 |
| shadeslayer | what happened? :P | 08:08 |
| Quintasan | He is using emacs | 08:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you are using emacs? | 08:08 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 08:09 |
| CIA-52 | [rocs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110709080931-71k6uhez11uweqn2 * debian/copyright fix formatting | 08:09 |
| shadeslayer | wth bzr: ERROR: Connection error: Couldn't resolve host 'xmlrpc.launchpad.net' [Errno -2] Name or service not known | 08:10 |
| apachelogger | ah | 08:10 |
| apachelogger | dang | 08:10 |
| apachelogger | more | 08:10 |
| CIA-52 | [rocs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110709081059-g7e6vmihe1magtn6 * debian/copyright more format fixes | 08:11 |
| shadeslayer | what are you fixing anyways? 0.o | 08:11 |
| apachelogger | tabz | 08:11 |
| apachelogger | your editor is incapable of ensuring newline at eof and no mixture of tabs and spaces | 08:12 |
| apachelogger | are you using notepad.exe? | 08:12 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 08:13 |
| apachelogger | oh noes :/ | 08:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: rocs copyright is still not right | 08:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: whats the problem now? | 08:13 |
| Quintasan | Real man use vim | 08:13 |
| apachelogger | src/Tests/TestDataStructure.cpp | 08:13 |
| apachelogger | copyright sez it is GPL3 | 08:13 |
| apachelogger | file sez it is GPL3+ | 08:13 |
| shadeslayer | fooey | 08:14 |
| apachelogger | <one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does.> | 08:14 |
| apachelogger | Copyright (C) <year> <name of author> | 08:14 |
| apachelogger | you got to be kidding me | 08:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i know | 08:14 |
| apachelogger | right | 08:14 |
| shadeslayer | i did a git blame | 08:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: make a choice | 08:14 |
| shadeslayer | about? | 08:14 |
| apachelogger | a) we reject the package entirely and bash upstream into fixing their shit or b) you fix this stuff | 08:15 |
| apachelogger | src/Tests/TestDataStructure.h is also gpl3+ whereas copyright sez GPL3 | 08:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I recommend you review the copyright file yourself again | 08:16 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 08:16 |
| apachelogger | src/Tests/TestDynamicProperties.cpp is also gpl3+ btw | 08:16 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: and get the copyright notes fixed | 08:17 |
| apachelogger | you choose how | 08:17 |
| shadeslayer | i'll let upstream know, best if they fix it | 08:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: then reprot a bug not just a mail | 08:17 |
| shadeslayer | ko | 08:17 |
| apachelogger | then they have to deal with it one way or another | 08:17 |
| shadeslayer | s/ko/ok/ | 08:17 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "ok" | 08:17 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Why is kde-runtime still not in archive? | 08:17 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: becuase the other packages have higher priority | 08:18 |
| Quintasan | one way or another kde-workspace is in NEW | 08:18 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but it does not require that much review as it is mostly just a rename ^^ | 08:18 |
| apachelogger | whereas rocs for example is a completely new package with all messed up licensing business | 08:18 |
| apachelogger | ah | 08:19 |
| * apachelogger will have to go for lunch in a ibt | 08:19 | |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: it would be great if you could review the new packages I did and comment on them in the wiki | 08:20 |
| apachelogger | I do not feel comfortable uploading them without any review | 08:20 |
| debfx | apachelogger: kde-runtime is missing breaks/replaces nepomukcontroller | 08:20 |
| Quintasan | lol | 08:20 |
| apachelogger | debfx: not uploaded yet anyway | 08:20 |
| bambee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/640680/ (note: I have just installed some project-neon packages and after that it does not work anymore) | 08:20 |
| bambee | o_O | 08:20 |
| bambee | s/installed/uninstalled/ | 08:21 |
| kubotu | bambee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 08:21 |
| apachelogger | bambee: you need phonon from git | 08:21 |
| apachelogger | kde-buildsystem poked around in the build system making it incompatible to earlier versions | 08:21 |
| bambee | ahh ok :) | 08:21 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: so, I think the best solution for grantlee is to just deactivate tests on armel | 08:22 |
| debfx | I know, I'll upload it now | 08:22 |
| apachelogger | cause I recon the enormous amount of template tests makes gcc fail | 08:22 |
| shadeslayer | kde bug 277401 | 08:26 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 277401 in general "Rocs licensing is messed up" [Minor,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277401 | 08:26 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: looks like i just need to switch GPL-3 with GPL-3+ .... | 08:28 |
| shadeslayer | everything is GPL (v3 or later) | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | perhaps I only looked at the files I told you about | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | a review would be very nice | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | oh | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | of all files | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | and about the oh | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | ! | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | since dep5 is parsable | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | we could build an app to help with reviewing that stuff | 08:29 |
| shadeslayer | well, yes | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | split view, on one side you have the copyright file, on the left you could have the file currently focused | 08:29 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Where do I get your repacked tarball for blinken? | 08:30 |
| bambee | apachelogger: I am not sure, but the "PhononBackend" service type is not found into neon | 08:32 |
| bambee | (I've just installed project-neon-phonon and THAT ALL) | 08:32 |
| bambee | then when I try dragon | 08:32 |
| bambee | dragonplayer(11980)/kdecore (trader) KServiceTypeTrader::defaultOffers: KServiceTypeTrader: serviceType "PhononBackend" not found | 08:32 |
| bambee | (phonon-gst is installed into /opt/project-neon) | 08:33 |
| CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/rocs] Rohan Garg * 7 * debian/copyright Everything is GPL-3+ | 08:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^ fixed | 08:42 |
| bambee | in fact, kbuilsycoca4 fixes the problem ^^ | 08:44 |
| bambee | (I am an idiot) | 08:44 |
| shadeslayer | hah :P | 08:45 |
| shadeslayer | ok gtg and have lunch, cya | 08:45 |
| debfx | apachelogger: in kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer: raw/parse.c doesn't have a license and debian/copyright doesn't mention Volker Krause | 08:54 |
| yofel | debfx: I added breaks/replaces on nepomukcontroller | 08:55 |
| yofel | good morning btw. | 08:55 |
| debfx | yofel: yes, but only to -data | 08:55 |
| debfx | good morning | 08:55 |
| yofel | ah, that was the only conflict I got | 08:55 |
| debfx | apachelogger: kdegraphics-thumbnailers: debian/copyright doesn't contain the full text of GPL-1 | 08:57 |
| yofel | Quintasan: kde-l10n-nl tarball on ftpmaster is the same as the one I uploaded, so either he didn't change it or we were so late that we already got the fixed one | 09:01 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Where do I get your repacked tarball for blinken? | 09:01 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Oh, okay | 09:01 |
| debfx | hm is GPL-1 even compatible with GPL-2? | 09:03 |
| apachelogger | hm | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | debfx: IIRC parse.c is from libopenraw | 09:07 |
| apachelogger | where it also doesn't have a license ^^ | 09:07 |
| apachelogger | debfx: <debfx> apachelogger: kdegraphics-thumbnailers: debian/copyright doesn't contain the full text of GPL-1 | 09:09 |
| apachelogger | that I do not understand | 09:09 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: ppa | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: if you add deb-src to your sources.list bzr builddeb will actually fetch it automatically | 09:10 |
| debfx | apachelogger: common-licenses doesn't contain GPL 1 so you need to quote the full license | 09:16 |
| debfx | but I'm not sure if that file is actually GPL-1 licensed | 09:17 |
| apachelogger | do I say GPL-1? | 09:17 |
| apachelogger | cause if I do not then it is not | 09:17 |
| debfx | the file says GPL without a version which is effectively GPL-1 | 09:18 |
| apachelogger | there is almost no GPL-1 software as the GPL-1 only was used for like 2 years and the replaced by the much superiror v2 | 09:18 |
| apachelogger | debfx: it is effictively any GPL | 09:18 |
| debfx | well at best the license header is unclear | 09:21 |
| debfx | as "the GNU General Public License" doesn't exist | 09:22 |
| apachelogger | no argument there | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | so is the license of application icons for the better part though | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | the ghostscript package is also not more descriptive on the matter | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | well | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | I am off | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | o/ | 09:24 |
| debfx | you could add a link to GPL-2 in debian/copyright | 09:25 |
| debfx | ScottK: could you please reject kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer, it contains a file without licensing header | 09:26 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: blinken looks good, uploading | 09:44 |
| yofel | debfx: uh, common-licenses does contain the GPL-1 here | 09:48 |
| debfx | yofel: you have a /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-1 file? | 09:49 |
| yofel | ah, debian bug 436105 fixed in oneiric | 09:49 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 436105 in debian-policy "Include GPLv1 in common-licenses" [Wishlist,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/436105 | 09:49 |
| yofel | so oneiric has it | 09:50 |
| debfx | ah, nice | 09:51 |
| debfx | though I wonder if it's enough to include GPL-1 in debian/copyright since it's most likely incompatible with GPL-2 | 09:53 |
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| Quintasan | apachelogger: since you wanted me to comment on the wiki then I shall do so | 11:14 |
| * Quintasan goes on a break | 11:27 | |
| Quintasan | bbl | 11:27 |
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| KRF | just curious, is oneiric going to ship calligra? | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | debfx: it is v3 | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | KRF: depends if someone gets around to packaging it and everything | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | debfx: actual copyright holder of dscparse is artifex | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | it is original distributed via ghostscript | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | if you take a look at ghostscript's copyright file you will find an entry License: GPL-3+~Artifex | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: heh, i had the same dilema last night, apparently its broken in natty | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | debfx: also gpl2 is almost certainly compatible with gpl1 as they ensure the same level of freedom | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | gpl2 only adds additional non-US mumbo jumbo untop of what gpl1 provides | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | gone again | 12:50 |
| Python | hi | 14:24 |
| * yofel tries to fix kate | 14:45 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: need to figure out which all libs are public and which are private | 14:46 |
| yofel | ah :/ | 14:46 |
| shadeslayer | the symbol generating part is easy, but the figuring out the public/private lib mess needs time | 14:47 |
| yofel | stuff in /usr/lib isn't private IMO unless it's in kde4/ | 14:47 |
| yofel | I'll leave that to you then | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | if its not release blocking, i would like to take it up on monday | 14:48 |
| yofel | not really, just that old kate + new kdelibs is useless in oneiric | 14:48 |
| Python | what is the latest kde version ? | 15:00 |
| ikonia | Python: look in kde.org | 15:20 |
| ikonia | Python: you've been told this is a "development" channel, not support | 15:20 |
| skfin | Python as a nickname doesnt sound a very good. | 15:23 |
| Python | ? | 15:24 |
| ikonia | Python: do you understand this is not a support channel ? | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ahoy | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: did you get any errors when creating a qemu image using rootstock? | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | for ARM that is | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | because i get this at the end : http://paste.kde.org/93871 | 15:55 |
| yofel | no idea, was ages ago, got the howto at hand? Then I'll try again | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: just run this : http://paste.kde.org/93877 , but here's the wiki link : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | typoday-- | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: best to add --copy-package-cache to that to save on a bit of bandwidth | 15:58 |
| yofel | deboostrap running | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | lol : W: Bad Bad Qemu, trying second stage one more time (LP #604872) | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 604872 in qemu-linaro (Ubuntu) "qemu-system-arm segfaults emulating versatile machine after running debootstrap --second-stage inside vm" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604872 | 16:04 |
| yofel | o.O | 16:05 |
| yofel | hm, we have no bzr branch for meta-kde | 16:06 |
| * yofel creates | 16:06 | |
| yofel | ah, now I'm getting chown errors too :( | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 16:09 |
| yofel | which is somehow to be expected for /proc ... | 16:09 |
| * yofel tries with natty | 16:10 | |
| shadeslayer | seems to be building fine with natty | 16:17 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: natty VM is running without errors so far (configuring packages now) | 16:17 |
| yofel | heh ^^ | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | i guess its that same issue that plagues the pbuilders | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | i could probably dist-upgrade it :P | 16:20 |
| yofel | I'll try that too | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | ( dist upgrade the natty qemu ) | 16:20 |
| yofel | more like, looks like that's the only choice that's left right now | 16:20 |
| * yofel creates an image on his server too | 16:21 | |
| yofel | might make more sense thinking of the build times ^^ | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 16:22 |
| yofel | I: Done | 16:22 |
| yofel | now... | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | will it blend? :P | 16:23 |
| yofel | 925524 433M -rw-r--r-- 1 yofel root 1.0G 2011-07-09 18:22 qemu-armel-201107091810.img | 16:23 |
| yofel | 924118 156K -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 155K 2011-07-09 18:08 rootstock-201107091801.log | 16:23 |
| yofel | 925525 40K -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39K 2011-07-09 18:22 rootstock-201107091810.log | 16:23 |
| yofel | hm, I forgot the kernel :( | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | what kernel? | 16:26 |
| yofel | nvm, didn't read the wiki page properly | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, you don't need the kernel :D | 16:27 |
| yofel | now... the kernel seems to boot, but that's it :/ | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | you don't get to even a tty? | 16:29 |
| yofel | ah wait, it didn't automatically switch to one | 16:30 |
| yofel | now I have the login prompt | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 16:30 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: :D http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/qarm.png | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | i'm still stuck at python-minimal here :P | 16:32 |
| yofel | heh | 16:32 |
| * yofel makes a backup of that image NOW | 16:33 | |
| shadeslayer | I: Installing core packages... | 16:33 |
| yofel | hm, now my keyboard input doesn't work right o.O | 16:34 |
| yofel | hm, 1GB is a bit small of an image :/ | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: fix config in /etc/default/keyboard to match that of your native system? | 16:37 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: nah, the keyboard mapping was total chaos suddenly | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | weird | 16:37 |
| yofel | had to reset qemu | 16:37 |
| * yofel doesn't have problems with US keyboards | 16:37 | |
| yofel | great, no network :/ | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | whut? | 16:39 |
| yofel | dunno, only lo is up | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | didn't it read ports.ubuntu.com sources when the tarball is generated | 16:39 |
| yofel | funny thing: resolv.conf is set right, just eth0 is down | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: there are instructions on how to bridge connections on the wiki page | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | I: Qemu image saved as /home/shadeslayer/qemu-armel-201107092151.img | 16:40 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: I'll do that later on my server, got a bridge already running there | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: how did you boot the image? | 16:40 |
| yofel | the command is below on the wiki | 16:41 |
| yofel | qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu cortex-a8 -kernel ./vmlinuz -hda qemu-armel-201107091810.img -m 256 -append "root=/dev/sda mem=256M devtmpfs.mount=0 rw" | 16:41 |
| yofel | yay, network up after 'ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0 && vi /etc/resolv.conf' ^^ | 16:42 |
| yofel | now to figure out how to create an image >> 1G | 16:43 |
| yofel | ah -i | 16:43 |
| yofel | bah | 16:44 |
| yofel | apt-get install aptitude | 16:45 |
| yofel | then let's see if dist-upgrading works | 16:45 |
| yofel | hm, I should script fetching the newest kernel that's out when booting the VM | 16:46 |
| skfin | Thou shall not use aptitude. | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | hmm, i have to figure out how to bridge connections first | 16:47 |
| yofel | do that, I'll tell you if the image died or not | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | i get permission denied when running your command :P | 16:49 |
| yofel | funny system you have again | 16:50 |
| yofel | esp. since I'm on natty right now | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | running each command seprately works :/ | 16:50 |
| yofel | oh, the network stuff? I did that as root, sorry | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | well, i did it as root too | 16:51 |
| yofel | note: qemu-system-arm is SLOW... | 16:51 |
| yofel | then again, real ARM wouldn't be faster I guess | 16:51 |
| * shadeslayer notes that he is very bad with vi | 16:54 | |
| yofel | heh, use nano | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | can't, no network access yet :P | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | might as well just echo the entire string | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i see network activity, but when i ping a ip address, it gives me a 100% packet loss | 16:59 |
| yofel | here too, qemu doesn't like ping, try apt-get update | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | that is some weir shit | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: oh btw are these changes in real time? | 17:02 |
| yofel | what changes? | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer | like the image is getting updated as i update the files in qemu | 17:02 |
| yofel | sure, that's a mounted filesystem | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | ah .. hmm | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | i need a better res on this thing | 17:07 |
| yofel | hm, somehow qemu-system-arm doesn't seem to like -curses :/ | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: blank screen? | 17:11 |
| yofel | yep | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: seems like you can't use more than 256 MB's | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | qemu crashes here if i use 512MB's of mem | 17:19 |
| yofel | lemme try | 17:19 |
| yofel | crashes badly... ouch | 17:19 |
| ScottK | debfx: Rejected. | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | the output looks like the register map | 17:20 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I did not read the reply on the grantlee MIR. | 17:21 |
| ScottK | apachelogger and Quintasan: On Monday I'll ask cjwatson to re-run the magic packageset script so Quintasan will be able to update the new packages. | 17:22 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Awesome | 17:22 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: O has different kernels - any idea what to use? http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/oneiric/main/installer-armel/current/images/ | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | afaik that depends on what you want to emulate | 17:25 |
| yofel | well, 'versatile' is gone | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | Please note: rootstock will not automatically give you a kernel package. You will have to include the kernel package you need for your hardware. For instance, for OMAP3 based hardware, you will need to include "--seed linux-image-omap" somewhere in your rootstock command. | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | upgrade to oneiric is 40 Megs | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: why do we want the kernel package btw? | 17:28 |
| yofel | do we want it? I didn't install it | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | me neither | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | i don't understand what its for anyways, i guess we don't need it since we are only emulating everything | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | might just be needed on actual hardware | 17:30 |
| yofel | well, O boots with old kernel too | 17:31 |
| * yofel does some rc.local fiddling for network | 17:35 | |
| shadeslayer | uh, you don't need that | 17:36 |
| yofel | errr right | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: look at the wiki, it has instructions on how to setup the network | 17:36 |
| yofel | that's for the outside world, the network doesn't start up in the VM on boot | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | will have a look at that after the image is done upgrading to oneiric | 17:38 |
| ScottK | BTW, looking at New again. | 17:39 |
| yofel | ok, -curses still doesn't work, but with network now starting at boot I can ssh in | 17:39 |
| yofel | yay :) | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 17:40 |
| yofel | now to find out which O kernel to use | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: wait, how does one ssh into qemu ? i mean, just ssh ubuntu@localhost or sth? | 17:42 |
| yofel | once you have tap set up the VM will get a real IP from the router | 17:42 |
| yofel | I already had a setup that I could simply switch to this one :P | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | tap? | 17:43 |
| yofel | the bridget networking | 17:43 |
| yofel | *bridged | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | oh ok | 17:43 |
| yofel | bah, shutdown -P now doesn't actually close the VM :S | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i think you might have to install libncurses to get a curses to work in qemu | 17:48 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Is debian/rules for blinken right? It is rather more sparse than I'm used to seeing. | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | s/a\ curses/the\ curses\ option/ | 17:48 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "yofel: i think you might have to install libncurses to get the\ curses\ option to work in qemu" | 17:48 |
| yofel | that sounds resonable actually... | 17:48 |
| yofel | well, nvm | 17:49 |
| yofel | WORKS™ | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | i'm just too lazy to setup bridges on my system right noq | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | *now | 17:49 |
| yofel | hm, seems the O linaro-vexpress kernel is for "ARM Versatile Express for Cortex-A9" | 17:59 |
| yofel | panicks :( | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: again, why the need to choose a kernel? | 18:00 |
| yofel | well, true | 18:00 |
| yofel | nvm then | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: btw it panics because you use cortex-a8 in the cpu type :P | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | so you probably want to change that to cortex-a9 i guess | 18:04 |
| yofel | nah, switched to cortext-a9, still panicked | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | for me, it doesn't even panic, just doesn't boot | 18:07 |
| yofel | because you forgot to switch -M (machine type) | 18:08 |
| yofel | anyway, forget it | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | oooh | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | kernel panic :P | 18:10 |
| yofel | but nice tux logo :P | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :D | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | actually wait | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://i.imgur.com/VpN0d.png | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | wrong boot args? | 18:11 |
| yofel | maybe, no idea (that's what I got too) | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | alright, i can make qemu crash now | 18:13 |
| * shadeslayer pokes around bootargs | 18:13 | |
| shadeslayer | qemu: hardware error: lan9118: Unimplemented MAC register write: 9 = 0x8100 | 18:13 |
| ScottK | argh! | 18:14 |
| ScottK | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/74870725/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.libkdcraw_4%3A4.6.90%2Brepack1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:14 |
| ScottK | NCommander or apachelogger: Could you look at ^^^. I don't recall seeing a failure log like that before. | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table :< | 18:24 |
| yofel | forget it then, the old kernel works fine after all | 18:24 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: blinken accepted (re: rules - I didn't know that would work ...) | 18:27 |
| yofel | that's how most of the neon rules files look like too ^^ | 18:31 |
| ScottK | yofel: Would you please have a look at the kalzium build failure on armel. | 18:44 |
| yofel | uh, sure, now that I have a VM a CAN try to debug those at least | 18:45 |
| CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (9 files in 3 dirs) push to bzr | 19:08 |
| CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/changelog fix changelog | 19:09 |
| yofel | apachelogger: metapackages ^ | 19:22 |
| NCommander | ScottK: that's a compiler bug, file a bug on gcc-4.6 with the build log and a test case if possible | 19:25 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Thanks. | 19:26 |
| ScottK | All I have is the build log. | 19:26 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Any suggestions on text to go with the build log? | 19:26 |
| NCommander | ScottK: poek your head into #linaro and see if someone can help debug it | 19:26 |
| * NCommander is still avoiding doing work until I'm off vacation on monday | 19:26 | |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:26 |
| ScottK | Done. | 19:28 |
| Quintasan | Did anyone here got tired simon? | 19:29 |
| yofel | I have no idea what you're talking about... | 19:30 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ScottK | workspace and runtime source and binary are in | 19:39 |
| ScottK | Nothing waiting in New (source or binary), so bring it on ... | 19:42 |
| ScottK | Someone should fix the cmake FTBFS, preferable including updating to 2.8.5 final. | 19:46 |
| ScottK | Quintasan_: cjwatson ran the packageset script and it picked up http://paste.ubuntu.com/640960/. I need a list of what else needs added. There are a number of manual exceptions in the packageset: http://paste.ubuntu.com/640963/ anything related to those packages we need to give him a list. | 21:30 |
| ScottK | Quintasan_: If you can make the list, I'll talk to him about adding it. | 21:31 |
| yofel | ScottK: what architectures are currently supported? i368 amd64 armel ...? | 21:47 |
| yofel | need to exclude armel for kalzium and libcompoundviewer | 21:47 |
| ScottK | and powerpc | 21:48 |
| yofel | thanks | 21:48 |
| ScottK | So you want i386 amd64 powerpc | 21:48 |
| * yofel wonders if using 2 VMs so both cores are used using icecc would speed things up... | 22:27 | |
| ScottK | Just build with -j2 | 22:34 |
| ScottK | Actually I find that -j#ofCPUs+1 works best. | 22:34 |
| ScottK | So with a dual core machine, build with -j3. | 22:34 |
| ScottK | You still need to build -j# for icecc to help, so save yourself the trouble. | 22:35 |
| yofel | doesn't help if I can only emulate one core in qemu, it errored out with -smp 2 | 22:35 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 22:36 |
| ScottK | I missed the bit about qemu. | 22:36 |
| ScottK | Might help then. | 22:36 |
| yofel | heh | 22:36 |
| yofel | well, build at 95% | 22:36 |
| ScottK | 4% left until the point of maximum pain from failure. | 22:36 |
| yofel | lol | 22:37 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It might be about time to deactivate https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4 | 23:07 |
| Riddell | ScottK: actually it's time for me to go to sleep but I'll keep it in mind for when I'm awake :) | 23:11 |
| yofel | ScottK: kalzium fixed in bzr | 23:11 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. Have a good night. | 23:11 |
| ScottK | yofel: Thanks. | 23:11 |
| yofel | (I hope), it built here at least on armel | 23:11 |
| ScottK | yofel: Looking at it. | 23:26 |
| ScottK | yofel: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 23:29 |
| ScottK | That gets us down to only one failure on 4.6.90 and that's a compiler bug. | 23:30 |
| ScottK | We need apachelogger, Quintasan_, debfx, or someone to sponsor stuff ... | 23:40 |
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