penguin42 | weird; 'debsums: invalid package name 'binutils' ' | 00:37 |
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Scribbled2x | qin - sorry about that - didn't think that error was version specific | 01:01 |
Scribbled2x | Hi - know you all are busy - http://pastebin.com/tGHKkiNV < what all does that mean -- wow they were just coming out with Locale when I stopped using Linux the first time | 01:07 |
Scribbled2x | I have since run a couple of different commands trying to reconfigure the locale for en_US:en but they are producing exactly the same results | 01:07 |
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trijntje_oneiric | Hi all, I just installed alpha2 but I can't upgrade because that would remove ubuntu-desktop, which is on some kind of blacklist. Does anyone know how I can upgrade? | 07:32 |
tsimpson | it's probably just broken while new packages come in and others are updated, welcome to alpha software | 07:49 |
alex_mayorga | any use to file another "metacity crashed with SIGABRT in raise()"? | 08:11 |
* penguin42 decides to attack unity-panel-service with gdb | 11:33 | |
BluesKaj | Hiyas | 11:51 |
penguin42 | don't suppose you happen to know glib stuff do you BK? | 11:54 |
BluesKaj | glibs ? only that they're the gtk /gnome libraries | 11:55 |
penguin42 | nod, I'm trying to fix in indicator-datetime that's annoying me | 11:56 |
BluesKaj | and if you certain glibs missing then there's trouble | 11:56 |
BluesKaj | have | 11:56 |
penguin42 | BluesKaj: Do you have a file called /etc/timezone ? | 11:57 |
BluesKaj | yeah , it has the proper setting ,America/Torornto | 11:59 |
penguin42 | I don't seem to have one - is your box an upgrade or a fresh install? | 11:59 |
BluesKaj | penguin42, hang I think I have a command for setting that | 11:59 |
BluesKaj | penguin42, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata | 12:01 |
penguin42 | will look at that in a minute; first I want to see if I can get indicator-datetime to crash less when it's missing | 12:02 |
BluesKaj | mine's an upgrade btw | 12:02 |
* penguin42 wonders why I don't have one | 12:03 | |
penguin42 | right, with that fixed I have a working Unity again | 13:30 |
BluesKaj | using nano is a pita , even notepad doesn't work | 13:33 |
penguin42 | ? | 13:33 |
BluesKaj | kateis broken i kde | 13:33 |
BluesKaj | in | 13:33 |
penguin42 | ah | 13:33 |
BluesKaj | so's this damn KB | 13:34 |
* penguin42 hands BluesKaj vi | 13:34 | |
BluesKaj | don't need vi , either , both cli apps | 13:34 |
astraljava | BluesKaj: I don't understand how nano can be a PITA. It's the world's most intuitive editor. Very limited functionality, yes, but still. | 14:24 |
astraljava | BluesKaj: Ahhh... so you're not a fan of CLI? That explains it. | 14:25 |
BluesKaj | oh I am ,but I prefer kate for some functions like accessing text | 14:26 |
* yofel checks what kate is stuck on | 14:26 | |
yofel | bah, symbols file inconsistency | 14:27 |
BluesKaj | well yofel, thanks for small mercies, cuz my other box lacks dolphin access | 14:29 |
BluesKaj | I read the motd , but toolate :( | 14:31 |
yofel | heh | 14:31 |
balachmar | Hi, I just wanted to test drive ubuntu+1 using virtual box, but I cannot get through the installer. It won't let me type anything into the text boxes... | 14:44 |
apshack | hi every one ok,ok,i need a software for total security anonimizer under ubuntu .any ideas? | 14:45 |
apshack | cypher ,tunneling etc.. | 14:45 |
balachmar | apshack: I think you should ask that in #ubuntu | 14:45 |
apshack | yes | 14:45 |
balachmar | This channel is for the development version of ubuntu | 14:45 |
apshack | why? | 14:46 |
balachmar | that is what the +1 in this channel name means | 14:46 |
oCean | apshack: you are using 11.10 right | 14:46 |
apshack | yes i am work with it | 14:46 |
Kurdistan | Hey guys and girls how is 11.10 going? | 14:46 |
balachmar | ooh, then never mind :) | 14:46 |
Kurdistan | the most important how is unity doing? | 14:47 |
Kurdistan | stil memory and cpu hungry? | 14:47 |
balachmar | however, I think if it isn't specific for the development version, then maybe you can get better results in #ubuntu | 14:47 |
apshack | unity have problems with gnome integration | 14:47 |
Kurdistan | it is not much time left also to lts. so I hope we can get rock solid distro. | 14:48 |
Kurdistan | like lucid was and are. | 14:48 |
Kurdistan | boot time must reduce | 14:49 |
apshack | lucid is primitive | 14:49 |
balachmar | Kudistan: Lucid was an LTS. | 14:49 |
Kurdistan | yes so will 12.04 | 14:50 |
balachmar | that is a little less than a year from now. | 14:51 |
balachmar | Much can happen in 6 months | 14:51 |
Kurdistan | balachmar, I hope for the better. | 14:51 |
Kurdistan | natty have got a lot of hate reviews. | 14:51 |
balachmar | yeah I know, but I must admit I kinda like unity already | 14:52 |
balachmar | people will hate gnome for switching to 3 as well I guess | 14:52 |
Kurdistan | balachmar, true, there will always be haters. | 14:53 |
apshack | the best OS is Ubuntu server is most potent | 14:54 |
balachmar | And from what I have read, Unity currently is better than Gnome3. However, who knows what will happen in the future | 14:54 |
balachmar | However, does anybody here know why I cannot type in my virtual box installation? (I can't install because I cannot create a user) I am using test drive by the way | 14:55 |
Daekdroom | The reviews I read about Unity were mostly "can improve a lot" | 14:55 |
balachmar | I want to help out squashing bite size bugs, but first need to get something as a development environment. | 14:56 |
penguin42 | balachmar: There are a few bugs of keyboard/mouse not working | 14:57 |
apshack | the future is faster boot,solid OS,and super segurity | 14:57 |
penguin42 | balachmar: It doesn't work in X for me in my KVM setup - it works ok in console | 14:57 |
balachmar | penguin42: any work arounds? or links to bug reports? | 14:57 |
balachmar | That is annoying, I wasn't really planning on going dual boot... | 14:58 |
penguin42 | balachmar: Mine is bug 807306 and there is also bug 807291 that may or may not be related | 14:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 807306 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 | 14:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 807291 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Mouse and keyboard unresponsive until re-plugged in" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807291 | 14:58 |
penguin42 | no known workarounds yet | 14:58 |
* penguin42 must try some more of the suggestions later | 14:59 | |
balachmar | penguin42 thanks | 15:02 |
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gintonic | Is it still an option to switch to "Ubuntu classic" in Oneiric? | 16:14 |
elros | gintonic: gnome 2 is phasing out in oneiric | 16:15 |
elros | a close alternative to gnome 2 in oneiric is xfce | 16:17 |
gintonic | Thanks | 16:18 |
* penguin42 wonders what the xfce guys will do - I think it uses a lot of the gnome libraries | 16:18 | |
* yofel would think charlie-tca knows more | 16:19 | |
elros | yup, they have evince / file-roller among others as apps | 16:19 |
yofel | but you're right... | 16:19 |
elros | an easy way to install it is xubuntu-desktop w/ or w/o recommends | 16:20 |
elros | and more support is found at #xubuntu | 16:20 |
Daekdroom | Classic Gnome is still available in the repos | 16:33 |
Daekdroom | But Gnome Panel is no longer customizable. | 16:33 |
Daekdroom | It tries to mimic GNOME Shell. | 16:33 |
robin0800 | Daekdroom, that is presumably because it gnome 3 and not 2x | 16:41 |
bjsnider | but no one has to use gnome classic anymore. they can use gnome 3 now | 16:48 |
bjsnider | so there's no problem | 16:49 |
Daekdroom | There are people that like neither Gnome Shell or Unity. | 16:58 |
penguin42 | me | 16:59 |
* penguin42 actually likes gnome3 less than unity | 16:59 | |
bjsnider | i don't see that "like" has anything to do with it | 18:33 |
bjsnider | gnome 3 is dead | 18:33 |
yofel | ^^ | 18:33 |
bjsnider | gnome 2 is dead i mean | 18:33 |
bjsnider | you must choose between available products, not fictional ones | 18:33 |
penguin42 | bjsnider: Hence I switched to KDE4 on my main machine | 18:34 |
bjsnider | well, that's at least a product that exists, not a piece of fiction | 18:35 |
bjsnider | it's not a good product, but it does exist | 18:35 |
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elros | kde 3.5 was a good product, and now it's dead | 21:22 |
elros | if you want something similar, check gnome 2.32 or xfce, or migrate to kde 4 with all its changes | 21:23 |
alex_mayorga | "You have some obsolete package versions installed. Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs: | 22:01 |
alex_mayorga | unity-services" | 22:01 |
alex_mayorga | how? | 22:01 |
yofel | apt-get ? | 22:02 |
yofel | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 22:02 |
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