[00:37] weird; 'debsums: invalid package name 'binutils' ' [01:01] qin - sorry about that - didn't think that error was version specific [01:07] Hi - know you all are busy - http://pastebin.com/tGHKkiNV < what all does that mean -- wow they were just coming out with Locale when I stopped using Linux the first time [01:07] I have since run a couple of different commands trying to reconfigure the locale for en_US:en but they are producing exactly the same results === rcmaehl is now known as creeper === vDubG is now known as vDubG__Gone === creeper is now known as rcmaehl === IdleOne is now known as AcmeOne === AcmeOne is now known as IdleOne [07:32] Hi all, I just installed alpha2 but I can't upgrade because that would remove ubuntu-desktop, which is on some kind of blacklist. Does anyone know how I can upgrade? [07:49] it's probably just broken while new packages come in and others are updated, welcome to alpha software [08:11] any use to file another "metacity crashed with SIGABRT in raise()"? [11:33] * penguin42 decides to attack unity-panel-service with gdb [11:51] Hiyas [11:54] don't suppose you happen to know glib stuff do you BK? [11:55] glibs ? only that they're the gtk /gnome libraries [11:56] nod, I'm trying to fix in indicator-datetime that's annoying me [11:56] and if you certain glibs missing then there's trouble [11:56] have [11:57] BluesKaj: Do you have a file called /etc/timezone ? [11:59] yeah , it has the proper setting ,America/Torornto [11:59] I don't seem to have one - is your box an upgrade or a fresh install? [11:59] penguin42, hang I think I have a command for setting that [12:01] penguin42, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata [12:02] will look at that in a minute; first I want to see if I can get indicator-datetime to crash less when it's missing [12:02] mine's an upgrade btw [12:03] * penguin42 wonders why I don't have one [13:30] right, with that fixed I have a working Unity again [13:33] using nano is a pita , even notepad doesn't work [13:33] ? [13:33] kateis broken i kde [13:33] in [13:33] ah [13:34] so's this damn KB [13:34] * penguin42 hands BluesKaj vi [13:34] don't need vi , either , both cli apps [14:24] BluesKaj: I don't understand how nano can be a PITA. It's the world's most intuitive editor. Very limited functionality, yes, but still. [14:25] BluesKaj: Ahhh... so you're not a fan of CLI? That explains it. [14:26] oh I am ,but I prefer kate for some functions like accessing text [14:26] * yofel checks what kate is stuck on [14:27] bah, symbols file inconsistency [14:29] well yofel, thanks for small mercies, cuz my other box lacks dolphin access [14:31] I read the motd , but toolate :( [14:31] heh [14:44] Hi, I just wanted to test drive ubuntu+1 using virtual box, but I cannot get through the installer. It won't let me type anything into the text boxes... [14:45] hi every one ok,ok,i need a software for total security anonimizer under ubuntu .any ideas? [14:45] cypher ,tunneling etc.. [14:45] apshack: I think you should ask that in #ubuntu [14:45] yes [14:45] This channel is for the development version of ubuntu [14:46] why? [14:46] that is what the +1 in this channel name means [14:46] apshack: you are using 11.10 right [14:46] yes i am work with it [14:46] Hey guys and girls how is 11.10 going? [14:46] ooh, then never mind :) [14:47] the most important how is unity doing? [14:47] stil memory and cpu hungry? [14:47] however, I think if it isn't specific for the development version, then maybe you can get better results in #ubuntu [14:47] unity have problems with gnome integration [14:48] it is not much time left also to lts. so I hope we can get rock solid distro. [14:48] like lucid was and are. [14:49] boot time must reduce [14:49] lucid is primitive [14:49] Kudistan: Lucid was an LTS. [14:50] yes so will 12.04 [14:51] that is a little less than a year from now. [14:51] Much can happen in 6 months [14:51] balachmar, I hope for the better. [14:51] natty have got a lot of hate reviews. [14:52] yeah I know, but I must admit I kinda like unity already [14:52] people will hate gnome for switching to 3 as well I guess [14:53] balachmar, true, there will always be haters. [14:54] the best OS is Ubuntu server is most potent [14:54] And from what I have read, Unity currently is better than Gnome3. However, who knows what will happen in the future [14:55] However, does anybody here know why I cannot type in my virtual box installation? (I can't install because I cannot create a user) I am using test drive by the way [14:55] The reviews I read about Unity were mostly "can improve a lot" [14:56] I want to help out squashing bite size bugs, but first need to get something as a development environment. [14:57] balachmar: There are a few bugs of keyboard/mouse not working [14:57] the future is faster boot,solid OS,and super segurity [14:57] balachmar: It doesn't work in X for me in my KVM setup - it works ok in console [14:57] penguin42: any work arounds? or links to bug reports? [14:58] That is annoying, I wasn't really planning on going dual boot... [14:58] balachmar: Mine is bug 807306 and there is also bug 807291 that may or may not be related [14:58] Launchpad bug 807306 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 [14:58] Launchpad bug 807291 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Mouse and keyboard unresponsive until re-plugged in" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807291 [14:58] no known workarounds yet [14:59] * penguin42 must try some more of the suggestions later [15:02] penguin42 thanks === zniavre is now known as autrepseudo === autrepseudo is now known as zniavre [16:14] Is it still an option to switch to "Ubuntu classic" in Oneiric? [16:15] gintonic: gnome 2 is phasing out in oneiric [16:17] a close alternative to gnome 2 in oneiric is xfce [16:18] Thanks [16:18] * penguin42 wonders what the xfce guys will do - I think it uses a lot of the gnome libraries [16:19] * yofel would think charlie-tca knows more [16:19] yup, they have evince / file-roller among others as apps [16:19] but you're right... [16:20] an easy way to install it is xubuntu-desktop w/ or w/o recommends [16:20] and more support is found at #xubuntu [16:33] Classic Gnome is still available in the repos [16:33] But Gnome Panel is no longer customizable. [16:33] It tries to mimic GNOME Shell. [16:41] Daekdroom, that is presumably because it gnome 3 and not 2x [16:48] but no one has to use gnome classic anymore. they can use gnome 3 now [16:49] so there's no problem [16:58] There are people that like neither Gnome Shell or Unity. [16:59] me [16:59] * penguin42 actually likes gnome3 less than unity [18:33] i don't see that "like" has anything to do with it [18:33] gnome 3 is dead [18:33] ^^ [18:33] gnome 2 is dead i mean [18:33] you must choose between available products, not fictional ones [18:34] bjsnider: Hence I switched to KDE4 on my main machine [18:35] well, that's at least a product that exists, not a piece of fiction [18:35] it's not a good product, but it does exist === rcmaehl is now known as superuser === yofel_ is now known as yofel === superuser is now known as next_person === next_person is now known as rcmaehl === vDubG__Gone is now known as vDubG [21:22] kde 3.5 was a good product, and now it's dead [21:23] if you want something similar, check gnome 2.32 or xfce, or migrate to kde 4 with all its changes [22:01] "You have some obsolete package versions installed. Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs: [22:01] unity-services" [22:01] how? [22:02] apt-get ? [22:02] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade