[10:01] <topyli> IRCC meeting now? or is my calendar confused?
[10:02] <tsimpson> 1 hour
[10:02] <topyli> ah ok
[10:16] <StevenR> tsimpson: the fridge calendar suggests it's now
[10:17] <tsimpson> it's wrong, 11:00 UTC is the meeting
[11:02] <topyli> ok, i suppose it's now time for the IRCC meeting
[11:02] <topyli> my network is a bit flakey, but if i disappear it won't be worse than a minute or so
[11:04] <LjL> i am here! are you happy?
[11:04] <topyli> yes!
[11:05] <topyli> i would prefer if the actual IRCC were here too, but this isn't bad as it is :)
[11:06] <topyli> jussi: elky tsimpson? i see nhandler is away
[11:08] <topyli> alright. please ping me if you get around
[11:08] <LjL> topyli: appoint yourself dictator for this meeting and proceed
[11:11] <topyli> hmm sounds like a plan. who votes against? :)
[11:12] <LjL> well i have to vote against, it's my nature
[11:12] <topyli> oh yeah, shouldn't have given you the chance
[11:19] <LjL> topyli: what do you think about pointing out in the op application documents that if you've been banned "recently" (for some definition of recent), the chances of being an op are low, unless the council decides to make an exception?
[11:21] <topyli> LjL: i'm not sure, it's one of those things that we can either document or just rely on the so-called 'common sense'
[11:21] <topyli> i'm not particularly fond of documenting and bureaucratizing stuff, even though i often come off as sounding otherwise
[11:25] <topyli> also, we don't currently suffer from huge amounts of ridiculous or malicious op applicants. there are a few, but it's not a big job to weed them out
[11:27] <topyli> if you want, you can put it on agenda of course, for second opinions
[11:57] <jussi> bah, my google says meeting is now?
[11:58] <jussi> topyli: ?
[12:04] <LjL> topyli: well, i'm just thinking that in this case it might be a facilitation rather than a bureaucratic hindrance, so that people don't waste their time applying when they realistically have no chance
[12:05] <ikonia> it's my fault - I was moaning about this
[12:06] <ikonia> I just wish we'd use a little more reasonable approach, eg: the user python wanted to apply - it is pointless to make him go through the application process as he's not grasped any of the nature of the hcannels
[12:06] <ikonia> rather than give him that feedback, we just point him to blindly apply and sit in no-mans land for 6 months
[12:06] <ikonia> I'd just like to see a little less pointing at procedure, and actually use common sense
[12:07] <ikonia> it's my fault this has re-appeared,