| pfifo | I am, or rather have been trying to get a package updated. The package is SDL-ttf version 2.10. I have contacted upstream and thats not really going anywhere. What can I do to get things moving in ubuntu? It seems there are atleast 3 othrs compiling this package from source given just the info on launchpad. What can I do? | 08:07 |
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| pfifo | any ideas at all? Im honestly at the end of the road and could use direction | 08:15 |
| SpamapS | pfifo: is there a bug in Launchpad already? | 08:16 |
| pfifo | yes | 08:17 |
| pfifo | ill link it one moment | 08:17 |
| cento | pfifo, give me the exactly name | 08:17 |
| cento | of the package | 08:17 |
| SpamapS | pfifo: just type 'bug #xxxxx' and the bot will link it | 08:18 |
| pfifo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sdl-ttf2.0/+bug/647759 | 08:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 647759 in sdl-ttf2.0 (Ubuntu) "Update to new upstream release" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:18 |
| pfifo | as you can see I am trying to take this into my own hands, it has been effecting me for long enough now and I have experience working around it. I want something done. | 08:21 |
| pfifo | SpamapS, cento, anything of interest? | 08:24 |
| cento | try to package yourself | 08:25 |
| cento | and use a personal ppa | 08:26 |
| pfifo | wait | 08:26 |
| pfifo | me providing a ppa will 'resolve' the issue? | 08:27 |
| cento | if you need NOW this package | 08:27 |
| cento | you can help, with custom ppa, yourself and other users | 08:28 |
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| pfifo | so basicly your telling me theres no way to fix this? | 08:30 |
| pfifo | atleast until debian does? | 08:30 |
| c3n | i tell you i'm a ubuntu user like you, and i think "if a package isn't on my rep, i make it on my ppa" :) | 08:31 |
| pfifo | well ok, thanks | 08:32 |
| christitze | i attached a fix as a debdiff to a bug report and now it says that the bug is fixed. but i got an email saying "* State: Failed to build" (for all arch's). so what should i do now? is the bug fixed in the new package or not? | 08:49 |
| christitze | this is the link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/2011.03.28-387002-0ubuntu4/+build/2616084 | 08:49 |
| tsimpson | if it failed to build, then not fixed | 08:51 |
| christitze | okay, then what should i do now? | 08:51 |
| tsimpson | you may want to look at the build log, fix the error, and update the debdiff | 08:52 |
| christitze | thanks, i'll see what i can do but i'm a real newbie, this is my first bug fix | 08:53 |
| tsimpson | it looks like the build failure has nothing to do with your fix, but you get more karma if you fix the new errors it to ;) | 08:53 |
| tsimpson | though you'll probably want to open a new bug for this error, as it's seems unrelated to the original bug | 08:54 |
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| christitze | okay thank you. where should i report the bug? or what is causing it? | 08:56 |
| tsimpson | against the package, something like "open-vm-tools failed to build on i386" | 08:58 |
| tsimpson | or you can let someone else pick it up if you don't know what the fix is | 08:59 |
| christitze | i'll report the bug now and post the information i have and someone else can look further into it | 09:00 |
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| tumbleweed | aonyx: I don't think moving LDFLAGS to the end is the best option either. In fact, a fair number of these issues were from people using LDFLAGS for linking to libraries rather than changing linker behavior | 15:58 |
| tumbleweed | aonyx: but there isn't an obvious best way to deal with this package. Both the upstream makefile and debian/rules should probably be changed | 15:59 |
| aonyx | Ok, so for now should I just add the PAMLIB argument to the makefile? | 16:16 |
| aonyx | tumbleweed: I mean add the PAMLIB argument to the makefile to debian/rules | 16:17 |
| tumbleweed | aonyx: sorry, I need to go out, I can probably only look at it again tomorrow. But others around here (jtaylor?) can probably help | 16:22 |
| tumbleweed | I think my original suggestion was reasonable, but maybe there's no best answer and we should just get the thing uploaded... | 16:23 |
| aonyx | ok, well I will try hailing jtaylor to see what he thinks. | 16:27 |
| aonyx | jtaylor: would you mind taking a look at something? | 16:27 |
| jtaylor | one moment | 16:46 |
| jtaylor | aonyx: does this package still fail? | 16:56 |
| jtaylor | ld should link with libc correctly even if you don't tell it to | 16:56 |
| jtaylor | ah no --shared is used | 16:57 |
| aonyx | so do you know which package we are referring to? | 16:57 |
| jtaylor | libpam-encfs I assumed | 16:57 |
| aonyx | yes | 16:57 |
| jtaylor | it builds fine in my chroot | 16:58 |
| aonyx | are you referring to the fix that I pushed? | 16:58 |
| aonyx | tumbleweed thinks that what I did is not as correct as it could be | 16:59 |
| jtaylor | no the one from debian | 16:59 |
| jtaylor | but it still looks wrong, an extra variable LIBS should be added and appended to the ld line | 17:02 |
| jtaylor | or use PAMLIB | 17:03 |
| aonyx | ok, sure, that is what tumbleweed was suggesting, was just trying to figure out why it built in your chroot, because it didn't in mine | 17:05 |
| jtaylor | maybe yours sets --no-undefined | 17:07 |
| jtaylor | => my chroot is bad ._. | 17:07 |
| jtaylor | no thats not the reason | 17:10 |
| jtaylor | brb | 17:16 |
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| Laney | ScottK: I just looked at natty-backports. bug 800501 bug 800224 bug 808126 (this is mine) look good to go for me. | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 800501 in natty-backports "Please backport ding-libs from oneiric" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800501 | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 800224 in natty-backports "Please backport packaging-dev 0.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800224 | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 808126 in natty-backports "Please backport sparkleshare 0.2.2-1ubuntu1 from Oneiric to Natty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808126 | 21:33 |
| broder | Laney: i don't see any reason we couldn't backport openjdk-7, since the version is embedded in the package name | 21:37 |
| ScottK | Laney: I agree in two of the three cases. | 21:38 |
| broder | it wouldn't affect rdeps or anything | 21:38 |
| Laney | the policy should be updated then | 21:38 |
| Laney | ScottK: ding-libs is a package not in natty if you're referring to that | 21:38 |
| Laney | actually, i think all of them are | 21:38 |
| ScottK | Nope. | 21:38 |
| ScottK | 224 | 21:39 |
| broder | Laney: i had interpreted the policy to refer more to changing things like python-defaults | 21:39 |
| broder | but ScottK is more authoritative on this than me, so since he's around, i'll defer to him :) | 21:39 |
| ScottK | Laney: It's on my list to get the backports library policy officially updated. The de facto policy at the moment is "don't break rdepends". | 21:40 |
| Laney | I thought runtimes were a hard no | 21:41 |
| Laney | what's the problem with packaging-dev then? | 21:41 |
| Laney | bug 802044 | 21:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 802044 in natty-backports "Please backport nspluginwrapper 1.4.2-0ubuntu2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802044 | 21:47 |
| Laney | wow. somehow ubuntu learned how to keep my s/pdif off after a reboot | 21:48 |
| broder | you mean the mac optical port? 'bout time | 21:49 |
| Laney | yeah | 21:49 |
| ScottK | Laney: The testing standard for backports is "Builds, installs, and runs." he just said he'd tested it built and installed. | 21:52 |
| Laney | right. missed that. | 21:52 |
| Laney | I assume it was just a typo, but yeah I see your point | 21:53 |
| ScottK | It's the most common omission when people say they want something backported. | 22:05 |
| ScottK | I understand from jdong_ there have been more than a few cases where stuff builds fine and thing utterly fails to start. | 22:06 |
| ScottK | OTOH, if it as least starts it generally works ~as well as it did in the later release. | 22:06 |
| broder | ScottK: you know packaging-dev is a metapackage, right? | 22:22 |
| ScottK | broder: I forgot about that. | 22:22 |
| ScottK | It is rather redundant to try and run it. | 22:23 |
| broder | right | 22:23 |
| ScottK | I'll go back and approv e it. | 22:23 |
| ScottK | Done. | 22:24 |
| jtaylor | as there is just a backport discussion, the zeromq backport is tested, I#m using it since a while in natty | 22:25 |
| broder | jtaylor: what's the bug #? i'll take a look | 22:26 |
| jtaylor | broder: 805701 | 22:27 |
| jtaylor | no rdeps | 22:27 |
| broder | for any of them? | 22:28 |
| jtaylor | no, pgm is new in oneiric | 22:29 |
| jtaylor | was bundled in the old zeromq | 22:29 |
| broder | ok, sounds good. for procedure reasons, can you open a separate bug for each package? | 22:29 |
| broder | it makes it easier on the archive admins | 22:29 |
| jtaylor | ok | 22:29 |
| broder | oh yeah - any DDs around interested in sponsoring a new package in Debian for me? | 22:32 |
| broder | (http://web.mit.edu/broder/Public/reptyr/) | 22:32 |
| jtaylor | broder: 80814{1,3,6} | 22:39 |
| broder | jtaylor: ok, those look good. in the future, please be sure to note that the package "builds/installs/runs" (which you were less than clear about for 808141) | 22:42 |
| broder | you also didn't reference the PPA in 808141 which would be useful if someone was examining it in isolation | 22:42 |
| broder | and for doing test builds, we recommend using the backportpackage script from ubuntu-dev-tools | 22:42 |
| broder | but those are mostly nits | 22:42 |
| jtaylor | I used backportpackage to do my ppa packages | 22:43 |
| broder | really? they don't seem to have the right suffix | 22:43 |
| jtaylor | ah yes I linked my old ppa, I have a new one jtaylor/ipython-dev | 22:43 |
| broder | whatever - i checked that you did the backport right for the old ppa | 22:45 |
| jtaylor | only uploaded them there a few days ago, but I used essentially the same package from my personal ppa before | 22:45 |
| broder | anyway, those 3 should be all set to go | 22:45 |
| jtaylor | should I still update the description with these details? | 22:46 |
| broder | don't worry about it - i've already acked it | 22:48 |
| jtaylor | k thx | 22:48 |
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