| potatoes | Hello! Anyone awake? | 04:34 |
|---|---|---|
| Azelphur | me unfortunately | 04:34 |
| Azelphur | xD | 04:34 |
| potatoes | hahaha | 04:34 |
| potatoes | how's it going? | 04:34 |
| Azelphur | tirededly. | 04:35 |
| potatoes | ahh | 04:35 |
| potatoes | I am pretty excited! | 04:36 |
| potatoes | I just successfully set up my first minimal gnome install (no gnome-core used). | 04:36 |
| Azelphur | :) | 04:36 |
| potatoes | Yes! | 04:36 |
| potatoes | Still a few things left to do - like fix GRUB2, and get that application that recommends drivers... | 04:37 |
| potatoes | but yeah, pretty sweet so far. Finally feeling in control. | 04:37 |
| Azelphur | :D | 04:38 |
| === willz is now known as Xenope | ||
| Xenope | hello everyone | 07:51 |
| Xenope | i need to ask a n00b question | 07:51 |
| Xenope | I installed Gnome desktop environment in the software centre | 07:54 |
| Xenope | but how do I actually run it? | 07:54 |
| Xenope | terminal? | 07:54 |
| tsimpson | what are you running now? | 07:57 |
| Xenope | ubuntu 11.04 | 07:58 |
| Xenope | sorry shudev mentioned that | 07:58 |
| Xenope | souldve* | 07:58 |
| Xenope | shouldve** lol | 07:59 |
| tsimpson | if you're running ubuntu, then you already have gnome... | 07:59 |
| Xenope | oh.. FML | 07:59 |
| tsimpson | you just choose "classic ubuntu" in the login menu to go use the old/classic/whatever interface | 08:00 |
| Xenope | it's a bit retarded they let you install something called "gnome desktop environment" lol | 08:00 |
| Xenope | ah right yeah , i didn't realise gnome was the default environment like, I'm a newbie | 08:00 |
| Xenope | thankyou for your help :) | 08:01 |
| tsimpson | :) | 08:01 |
| daubers | Morning | 08:36 |
| bigcalm | Hi daubers | 08:36 |
| iulian | Morning. | 08:36 |
| * daubers has a day on the motorbike today \o/ | 08:37 | |
| bigcalm | IRCing while riding a bike, that's quite a skill you've got there | 08:40 |
| daubers | bigcalm: :P Need to get my gear on and potter over to the parents shortly. Need to pick some veg from the garden before it goes too mad | 08:44 |
| * daubers ventures out into the wild blue yonder | 08:50 | |
| bigcalm | Have fun | 08:54 |
| popey | morning all | 09:10 |
| bigcalm | Howdy popey :) | 09:10 |
| popey | Sam just walked into the den | 09:11 |
| popey | sam: "Daddy have you got your graze box yet?" | 09:11 |
| popey | me: "No" | 09:11 |
| popey | sam: *slams it on the table* "Yes you have! It's here!!" | 09:11 |
| bigcalm | Awww | 09:11 |
| popey | now he's asking if he can have something from it | 09:11 |
| bigcalm | I have several tub untouched. Might be time to really cancel | 09:13 |
| popey | wow | 09:13 |
| popey | mine rarely last more than a few hours | 09:13 |
| bigcalm | Maybe if I were to move it to the weekend, Hayley and I would enjoy it together | 09:13 |
| bigcalm | I currently have it delayed by 4 weeks because they aren't being eaten | 09:14 |
| popey | my kids eat lots of mine | 09:17 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | Morning brobostigon | 10:24 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm :) | 10:25 |
| brobostigon | adsl dead this morning, so tethered eeepc to android phone. | 10:25 |
| brobostigon | does three have any restrictions ontethering, to anyones knowledge? | 10:37 |
| AlanBell | I think now that that android and iOS both include tethering by default they have probably given up | 10:42 |
| AlanBell | and they have stopped doing unlimited data tarrifs | 10:43 |
| brobostigon | my tariff with three,allows for unlimited data, without FUP. | 10:43 |
| brobostigon | myadsl isnt connecting properly, it dies overnight, and wont connect back up again. | 10:44 |
| bigcalm | brobostigon: call your ISP | 10:46 |
| brobostigon | bigcalm: i have looked all over their site, and havent found anything relating to tethering. | 10:46 |
| bigcalm | I meant about your ADSL | 10:47 |
| brobostigon | bigcalm: oh, yes, sorry, i just found all my dad documents from them, as the account is with my dad. | 10:48 |
| bigcalm | I see | 10:48 |
| bigcalm | http://www.avforums.com/forums/iphone/1417114-enable-tethering-3-one-plan.html | 10:49 |
| bigcalm | Might be of interest to you | 10:49 |
| brobostigon | bigcalm: so in theory, i cant do it, it has to be via my dad. andlast time, theyrefused to help me solve it, as i was doing someof the diagnosis via myeeepcwith debian, when it clearlyisnt related, very frustrating. | 10:50 |
| bigcalm | When I lived with my parents, we had Demon for ADSL. They allowed a seperate 'technical' and 'billing' contacts, which meant I could deal with them myself | 10:51 |
| brobostigon | that is a goodidea. | 10:52 |
| brobostigon | anyways, how can they tell if you have your phone tethered or not? | 11:07 |
| gord | there is an extra hop in the TTL | 11:07 |
| brobostigon | good point, | 11:09 |
| popey | also, depending on the network, the data goes over a different access point | 11:16 |
| * brobostigon is in Deep *** then. | 11:16 | |
| popey | why? | 11:17 |
| brobostigon | as i amtethered, potentially when i shouldnt be. | 11:17 |
| popey | meh | 11:18 |
| popey | i doubt they will come and beat your door down | 11:18 |
| brobostigon | quite, it isnt worth it for them. | 11:19 |
| bigcalm | Never had any hassle from T-Mobile due to tethering | 11:21 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski on a collector card http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_11 | 11:21 |
| brobostigon | bigcalm: are you on payg or contract, and or doesyourplan allow for tethering or not ? | 11:22 |
| bigcalm | Contract and I pay extra for unlimited data. As far as I know, it doesn't include tethering | 11:23 |
| brobostigon | ok, | 11:24 |
| brobostigon | hmm, | 11:24 |
| bigcalm | Don't worry about it :) | 11:24 |
| bigcalm | I wouldn't try torrenting over it though | 11:25 |
| brobostigon | no, certainly not. | 11:26 |
| bigcalm | Just because it'd be dog slow | 11:28 |
| brobostigon | i just tried aptitude update, and it baerly his 50kb/s | 11:28 |
| === adrian is now known as Guest78069 | ||
| AlanBell | just told youngest there is no air in space where the shuttle went | 11:52 |
| AlanBell | pause . . ."but how do aliens breath??" | 11:53 |
| brobostigon | lol | 11:53 |
| bigcalm | Sweet | 11:53 |
| popey | nice | 11:54 |
| MartijnVdS | +1 | 11:58 |
| daubers | lo | 12:24 |
| popey | lo | 12:25 |
| * daubers has acquired a mega haul from the garden today | 12:27 | |
| oracology | daubers: what did you haul in? | 12:27 |
| daubers | Might be eating baked potatoes with broad beans all week though | 12:27 |
| daubers | oracology: spuds, beans, carrots, spinach and lettuce | 12:28 |
| oracology | daubers: beans and carrots. make a quick stir fry! | 12:28 |
| daubers | indeed they do | 12:28 |
| Myrtti | if a telly has in front outlets for a headset, and one white and one yellow, what are the white and yellow for? | 12:28 |
| daubers | thats what dinner is this morning | 12:28 |
| Myrtti | (going through stuff at mums, planning to sell some) | 12:29 |
| daubers | Myrtti: yellow is normally video in | 12:29 |
| daubers | normally a red and white near it (left and right stereo) | 12:29 |
| oracology | Myrtti: what size connection? RCA? | 12:29 |
| Myrtti | so that's the one with the arrow like \/ above it | 12:29 |
| oracology | Myrtti: if they're the same size as the yellow video, then you've got a video connector and a mono audio jack (white) | 12:30 |
| Myrtti | ok | 12:30 |
| AlanBell | white is audio, yellow is composite video | 12:30 |
| oracology | Myrtti: the red gives you stereo. white alone gives you mono. | 12:30 |
| Myrtti | thank you ♥ | 12:30 |
| oracology | Myrtti: yeah, it's not two jacks for headphones :) | 12:30 |
| shauno | it's two jacks for an amiga :D | 12:30 |
| AlanBell | and they are going to be inputs rather than outputs | 12:31 |
| * daubers puts the kettle on | 12:31 | |
| oracology | AlanBell: right, thanks Alan. important point, forgot to mention it | 12:31 |
| Myrtti | right, thank you | 12:31 |
| Myrtti | helps a lot | 12:32 |
| shauno | yeah. that configuration sounds like something they'd provide for camcorders, a good few years back | 12:32 |
| oracology | daubers: i'm enjoying a nice cuppa myself...cauliflower, potatoes and peas today for lunch (and possibly tomorrow's lunch too) | 12:32 |
| daubers | oracology: very nice too | 12:44 |
| oracology | daubers: :) | 12:44 |
| dogmatic69_ | how can i 'flush' my dns? | 12:49 |
| dogmatic69_ | i always botch the server setup and can now brows the site through a proxy but not on my pc | 12:50 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: restart the program that's seeing the wrong host name | 12:53 |
| dogmatic69_ | :( | 12:54 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: if that doesn't work, restart the DNS server | 12:54 |
| MartijnVdS | (the caching DNS server you're using, that is0 | 12:54 |
| dogmatic69_ | how do i do that? | 12:54 |
| * dogmatic69_ uses google 8.8.8.8 | 12:54 | |
| MartijnVdS | you can't | 12:54 |
| dogmatic69_ | and ttl is 60 on the A record | 12:55 |
| MartijnVdS | wait for the TTL to expire | 12:55 |
| MartijnVdS | check with: | 12:55 |
| MartijnVdS | dig -t A your.record.here | 12:55 |
| MartijnVdS | it'll show what's left of the TTL | 12:55 |
| dogmatic69_ | dig -t A stats.infinitas-cms.org | 12:55 |
| MartijnVdS | stats.infinitas-cms.org. 3600INA184.106.157.63 | 12:55 |
| dogmatic69_ | :O | 12:55 |
| MartijnVdS | TTL for that record is 3600 seconds | 12:56 |
| dogmatic69_ | its set to 60 | 12:56 |
| MartijnVdS | and the IP is as shown | 12:56 |
| MartijnVdS | it's set to 3600 | 12:56 |
| MartijnVdS | (1 hour) | 12:56 |
| dogmatic69_ | :/ | 12:57 |
| dogmatic69_ | so does ninja cloak not use dns cache? | 12:57 |
| dogmatic69_ | it always works | 12:57 |
| MartijnVdS | you might need to reload your serving DNS server after changing the zone (don't forget the zone serial number as well) | 12:57 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: ninja cloak? what's that? | 12:58 |
| dogmatic69_ | you can set something to 86000 and then change it, and ninja cloak is instant | 12:58 |
| MartijnVdS | 86400 = 24 * 60 * 60 seconds :) | 12:58 |
| dogmatic69_ | http://www.ninjacloak.com/ is a proxy | 12:58 |
| dogmatic69_ | awesome when something is blocked | 12:58 |
| MartijnVdS | never bother with proxies | 12:58 |
| MartijnVdS | (I never do, I mean) | 12:58 |
| dogmatic69_ | found it when i worked at a place that blocked fb | 12:58 |
| MartijnVdS | ninjacloak seems down | 12:58 |
| dogmatic69_ | im on it, its up | 12:59 |
| dogmatic69_ | lots of js / ads if you have ad blocker | 12:59 |
| dogmatic69_ | eg: http://www.ninjacloak.com/index.php/1010110A/fdad7b2152c4c019b42996fe7fa35c50ab915a54e0d0ae94fd8d6062c216512 | 12:59 |
| dogmatic69_ | works ^ | 12:59 |
| MartijnVdS | not for me | 12:59 |
| dogmatic69_ | stats.infinitas-cms.org dont | 12:59 |
| dogmatic69_ | strange | 12:59 |
| popey | GNNNNN | 13:13 |
| popey | does anyone have a foolproof way to remove the shadow on the panel at the top of the screen in 11.04? | 13:13 |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/5669/how-to-remove-shadow-from-gnome-panel/5672#5672 does not work | 13:14 |
| dogmatic69_ | :( | 13:18 |
| dogmatic69_ | why is bash shouting at me? "status: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory" | 13:18 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 13:28 |
| AlanBell | hi czajkowski | 13:31 |
| czajkowski | what a frigging day | 13:32 |
| czajkowski | 2 days running | 13:32 |
| penguin42 | what was the reaction? | 13:36 |
| penguin42 | hmm that was a comment to something entirely different# | 13:36 |
| dogmatic69_ | would anyone be interested in trying to ssh in my server so i can see if fail2ban works? | 13:41 |
| * BigRedS volunteers | 13:42 | |
| dogmatic69_ | tx, pm'ed you the ip | 13:43 |
| * AlanBell is off to farnborough later | 13:44 | |
| popey | uhoh | 13:44 |
| * popey is going to farnborough shortly | 13:44 | |
| AlanBell | http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=1500002701&langId=-1&productId=1501010563#pdpProductReviews | 13:44 |
| popey | that looks similar to mine | 13:44 |
| popey | dont forget fuel _and_ oil! | 13:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | and mine :-) | 13:45 |
| Myrtti | ä | 13:46 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Had mine for years - still working well. I have enlarged the strimming line hole though so I can use ~3mm rather than the really think stuff that snaps all the time. | 13:46 |
| * czajkowski is never leaving the house again | 13:48 | |
| AlanBell | that bad? | 13:50 |
| czajkowski | knackered | 13:51 |
| czajkowski | 4 hr stint in A&E yesterday | 13:51 |
| dogmatic69_ | where can i view the cron logs? | 13:51 |
| czajkowski | put my hand through a glass mirror this morning as i couldnt stand straight so cut my hand in a few places so lots of blood | 13:51 |
| AlanBell | yikes | 13:52 |
| czajkowski | that was at 7 when we were due to leave | 13:52 |
| czajkowski | so by 7:30 and most odf the blood stopped in parts rest of my stuff thrown in car | 13:52 |
| czajkowski | my hand out the window and raised trying to stop it bleeding off to airport | 13:52 |
| czajkowski | i am a disaster | 13:52 |
| penguin42 | czajkowski: And they say that breaking a mirror is bad luck! | 13:54 |
| czajkowski | penguin42: considering the last 15 months it cant get any worse | 13:55 |
| penguin42 | ah, like that | 13:55 |
| dogmatic69_ | czajkowski: every time i say that it does :S | 13:57 |
| Myrtti | vlc mms://3.efstaleiti.rs.ruv.is/katla/ ♥ | 13:59 |
| AlanBell | what is that Myrtti? | 14:02 |
| Myrtti | tld is .is, katla is a volcano | 14:03 |
| AlanBell | is it going to go bang? | 14:04 |
| shauno | heh. iceland making irish weather look good :) | 14:07 |
| daubers | Woot! Finally got gson to deserialize some json on my phone \o/ | 14:10 |
| daubers | Now to get it into the sqlite db | 14:10 |
| czajkowski | daubers: i want cake | 14:26 |
| daubers | czajkowski: Me too :( The wife did make naughty gingerbread men yesterday..... | 14:26 |
| czajkowski | naughty..................how so | 14:29 |
| daubers | czajkowski: I'll take a pic... 2 seconds | 14:32 |
| daubers | http://ubuntuone.com/p/13a7/ | 14:35 |
| czajkowski | lol | 14:37 |
| daubers | See, told you they where naughty | 14:37 |
| BigRedS | what's the current favourite idiot-proof video editor? | 16:15 |
| BigRedS | I just need to cut the first minute off a video :) | 16:16 |
| Myrtti | openshot | 16:16 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: cut it off and use it, or cut a video down to its first minute? | 16:16 |
| MartijnVdS | Simple actions like this are easy with ffmpeg :) | 16:17 |
| popey | pitivi | 16:17 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: can that do "copy" mode, instead of re-encodig? | 16:18 |
| MartijnVdS | re-encoding* | 16:18 |
| * BigRedS install pitivi | 16:18 | |
| BigRedS | I think I'm going to be doing this a bit, though, perhsaps an ffmpeg script will work out better in the future... | 16:18 |
| windmill | hi.... is there a way to make a copy of data being sent over a tty? | 16:18 |
| penguin42 | windmill: Try ttysnoop | 16:19 |
| popey | MartijnVdS: dunno | 16:19 |
| windmill | penguin42, I'll give it a look | 16:19 |
| BigRedS | argh. pitivi's fallen into the project trap | 16:19 |
| popey | meh | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: the project trap? | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | ah | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | "everything is a project" | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | Like the "library" trap of music/photo apps :( | 16:21 |
| windmill | penguin42, does that work for external devices connected to tty? I have a device which is controlled by a progam and I want to see what the progam in sending to the device | 16:21 |
| BigRedS | MartijnVdS: exactly. OTOH, ffmpeg is refreshingly simple :) | 16:21 |
| penguin42 | windmill: I've never used it but I think that's the idea of it for serial connections | 16:24 |
| penguin42 | windmill: The other way is to strace the program | 16:24 |
| MartijnVdS | *shudder* | 16:24 |
| * penguin42 hands MartijnVdS a coat | 16:25 | |
| MartijnVdS | you could just write a small program that opens the tty + a pty, have the app you want to monitor connect to the pty, then have the new app you're writing pipe everything from tty<->pty and back :) | 16:25 |
| MartijnVdS | it would break on ioctls though | 16:25 |
| penguin42 | indeed, and you would see them with an strace | 16:26 |
| MartijnVdS | you can have strace dump out everything sent to a file descriptor | 16:26 |
| windmill | strace is sounding good | 16:28 |
| windmill | never used it | 16:29 |
| windmill | willhave to start reading | 16:29 |
| MartijnVdS | Are you going to trace "just once", or is this a "forever" thing? | 16:29 |
| windmill | MartijnVdS, I just want to record what itis doing once (or maybe twice) to look over and see what it its sending | 16:31 |
| MartijnVdS | then strace is good -- it can slow down an app quite a bit if it's being traced | 16:33 |
| windmill | ok so as far as I can work out I need a set of options after the -e to grab data from the tty | 16:36 |
| MartijnVdS | windmill: let me look it up.. it's not that hard | 16:36 |
| MartijnVdS | windmill: strace -o strace.out -e read=fd_of_tty_here -e write=fd_of_tty_here | 16:37 |
| Myrtti | BigRedS: openshot | 16:38 |
| MartijnVdS | you might have to find those file descriptors first (just numbers -- check the output of "ls -l /proc/$pid_of_program/fd/" and check which one is the tty) | 16:38 |
| windmill | MartijnVdS, ooo thanks... would probably have taken me hours to work that out from the man page | 16:38 |
| BigRedS | Myrtti: Ah, cheers. I'll give that one a go, too :) | 17:51 |
| potatoes | Hello! | 18:35 |
| potatoes | Anyone have time for a newbie question? | 18:35 |
| gord | someone might :) generally the best approach is to outline your question and if someone among the 143 people in the channel knows the answer and has time to respond, they will do | 18:37 |
| potatoes | Sigh | 18:49 |
| potatoes | Well gord, I tried asking my question in #ubuntu | 18:49 |
| potatoes | Basically the thing is I'm trying to reconfigure my grub (it seems to have been overwritten by Win7) | 18:50 |
| AlanBell | slightly less frantic here, ask away | 18:50 |
| potatoes | When I type in "sudo grub", I get "command not found", so I removed grub using aptitude, and then reinstalled it. | 18:50 |
| potatoes | I went through the configuration steps, and I'm still getting the same error. | 18:50 |
| ikonia | potatoes: no you got removed for a bad attitude | 18:50 |
| potatoes | Here's the kicker though - I got kicked form #ubuntu by a guy called Ikonia. | 18:50 |
| ikonia | you didn't get tired asking you got removed | 18:51 |
| potatoes | ikonia: I don't understand what my attitude was though, I honestly don't. | 18:51 |
| gord | lets not bring that in here | 18:51 |
| ikonia | potatoes: calling people names, that's nota good attitude | 18:51 |
| potatoes | ikonia: All I did was brainstorm after you told me "try sudo apt-get install grub-pc" which I already did. | 18:51 |
| ikonia | potatoes: rushing off doing your own thing while asking for help | 18:51 |
| gord | so if you want to recover grub you'll want to follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows | 18:51 |
| potatoes | ikonia: before I called you an "asshole", you told me you said you were going to stop helping me because I was "rushing off", when I was just thinking out loud. | 18:52 |
| potatoes | ikonia: I'm going to ignore you now, bye. | 18:52 |
| brobostigon | also the grub2 page on the wiki is good. | 18:52 |
| gord | ikonia, potatoes if we need to discuss this then take it to #u-ops | 18:52 |
| gord | don't bring it in here | 18:52 |
| potatoes | Sorry gord. | 18:52 |
| potatoes | gord: I do I feel really frustrated about it, even though it's only the internet. I have half a mind to continue it on in #u-ops. | 18:53 |
| brobostigon | ok, lets just work out potatoes issue, and fix it. | 18:54 |
| potatoes | brobostigon: After following the link gord gave me, I think I'm missing menu.lst. | 18:55 |
| potatoes | brobostigon: In /boot/grub | 18:55 |
| ikonia | that's not used for grub2 | 18:55 |
| ikonia | read the document properly | 18:56 |
| potatoes | Ahh, yeah, that was me being stupid. | 18:56 |
| ikonia | this is what I meant about rushing it | 18:56 |
| ikonia | in | 18:56 |
| brobostigon | potatoes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 18:57 |
| * daubers gets back to his android program after having a nommy stirfry and watching the Wrath of Khan | 19:08 | |
| MartijnVdS | KHAAAAAN | 19:09 |
| popey | whs | 19:09 |
| brobostigon | goodfilm, :) | 19:09 |
| daubers | I do enjoy evenings when the wifes out | 19:10 |
| brobostigon | :) | 19:10 |
| brobostigon | hehe | 19:10 |
| * MooDoo is just about to watch season 4 torchwood :) | 19:13 | |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: that's not on until Thursday, is it? | 19:13 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS, it's been on in the states already apparently, well i hope so as i'm downloading it now :) | 19:14 |
| MartijnVdS | naughty :) | 19:14 |
| MooDoo | shush | 19:14 |
| MooDoo | :) | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | popey: were you using a dual head system on that screenshot bug? | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | cos i cannot reproduce it here | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | also launchpad needs twitter integration when i open a bug :) | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | i have global menus disabled too, maybe that affects it? | 19:17 |
| popey | ali1234: no | 19:22 |
| popey | i expect so | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | when you press windows key, does the launcher come to the front? | 19:22 |
| popey | yes | 19:23 |
| ali1234 | for me that does not work either | 19:23 |
| ali1234 | in any fullscreen app | 19:23 |
| ali1234 | there is no way for me to launch apps | 19:23 |
| popey | oh hang on | 19:23 |
| ali1234 | except to switch to another workspace | 19:23 |
| popey | for a full screen app, no | 19:23 |
| ali1234 | ok, that's not related then | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | it's really annoying because the launcher doesn't dodge fullscreen windows either | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | the only way to get rid of it is to highlight another window, then click in the fullscreen window, then the launcher goes behind it | 19:25 |
| ali1234 | except that that isn't possible when the fullscreen window is the only window on the screen, ie always if you don't have two monitors | 19:25 |
| suprengr | MooDoo, where#s Torchwood on? [pretty please] | 19:25 |
| ali1234 | basically unity fullscreen window handling is a massive regression over 10.10 | 19:25 |
| BigRedS | unity non-fullscreen window handling's amusing, too. | 19:50 |
| BigRedS | just the fun trying to get at menus. It's like a steady hand game, avoiding giving focus to anything else on the way :) | 19:51 |
| ali1234 | well yeah, that's why i disable global menus | 19:51 |
| ali1234 | with that gone unity isn't so bad | 19:51 |
| BigRedS | Ah, I'm still trying to convince myself that it's something I'll get used to... | 19:51 |
| ali1234 | hmm can't reproduce on netbook either | 19:54 |
| ali1234 | so it's not related to dual head, global menus, or nvidia driver | 19:54 |
| ali1234 | might be theme related but i doubt it | 19:54 |
| ali1234 | i will try changing to default theme | 19:55 |
| * suprengr is getting tempted to remove global menus (unity)... do I tread in in deep water or relive myself of a pain in the]? | 19:56 | |
| ali1234 | just say NO | 19:57 |
| ali1234 | (and then turn it off) | 19:57 |
| suprengr | :) | 19:57 |
| ali1234 | it causes a lot of other problems though | 19:57 |
| suprengr | thanks ali1234 | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | but you'll see that | 19:58 |
| suprengr | yeh.. that's what i was wondering... any show stoppers though? | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | no | 20:00 |
| suprengr | cool, thanks | 20:00 |
| ali1234 | just some annoying stuff with firefox menu bar disappearing | 20:00 |
| ali1234 | and then clicks go to the wrong place | 20:00 |
| ali1234 | but no worse than all the existing problems with ff | 20:01 |
| suprengr | .. can deal with that | 20:01 |
| suprengr | cheers | 20:01 |
| gord | market.android.com might as well be renamed "here is a bunch of crap you don't actually want. dot com" these days =\ | 20:31 |
| brobostigon | best i have found, since i have had android, is k9-mail and astrid. | 20:32 |
| gord | haven't seen anything really interesting for about six months or so | 20:33 |
| gord | crackle is interesting, full movies and tv shows streamed for free, neat. but i don't want to watch that stuff on my phone | 20:34 |
| penguin42 | gord: I guess it's for those 10" phones | 20:34 |
| brobostigon | or tablets. | 20:34 |
| BigRedS | I keep meaning to try k-9 | 20:35 |
| BigRedS | is it better than the built in one? | 20:35 |
| brobostigon | gord: dos crackle require flash? i havent got it here. | 20:35 |
| gord | brobostigon, absolutely no idea | 20:36 |
| gord | the default mail client for honeycomb is nice, its like the gmail client. hope it turns up in 4.0 | 20:36 |
| brobostigon | BigRedS: it ismore resuorce friendly, and doesnt require background data or syncing or any of thatstuff, that sucks battery, to be turned on. | 20:36 |
| brobostigon | gord: ok, because it isnt showing in market here. | 20:37 |
| gord | chances are it requires certain hardware that supports DRM or some such | 20:37 |
| brobostigon | gord: yes,proobebly. | 20:37 |
| BigRedS | brobostigon: Ah, none of those are particularly important perks to me. | 20:40 |
| brobostigon | BigRedS: oh, ok. | 20:40 |
| brobostigon | BigRedS: also, more battery friendly, due to those factors. | 20:41 |
| BigRedS | yeah, my batter lasts longer than the time between charges already | 20:41 |
| brobostigon | :) | 20:42 |
| BigRedS | every so often the native one irritates me and I decide to try something else, but I tend to get distracted before I actually do... | 20:42 |
| brobostigon | ok. | 20:42 |
| StevenR | woot. Father's day present handed over. "Dad's Ubuntu Kit" :) (Ubuntu mug, notepad, pens, mouse mat, books). Upgrade to Maverick in progress, then to Natty. | 22:09 |
| Azelphur | with time zones, will paris always be 1 hour ahead of us? | 22:17 |
| Azelphur | or does DST mess it up | 22:17 |
| popey | Azelphur: they switch to DST same as us | 22:30 |
| popey | same dat | 22:30 |
| popey | *day | 22:30 |
| popey | compare... | 22:30 |
| Azelphur | cool, so always +1 | 22:30 |
| popey | http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=136 | 22:30 |
| popey | http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=195 | 22:30 |
| popey | London vs Paris | 22:30 |
| popey | look at the dates | 22:30 |
| popey | handy site that | 22:31 |
| Azelphur | indeed :) | 22:32 |
| murcherson | anyone know how i can add "Run as admin" to my right click menu for 11.04 | 22:39 |
| * penguin42 wouldn't mind adding stuff to that menu but never seen how - I like how on some fedora versions there is a 'terminal' on it | 22:43 | |
| ascenseur | evening peeps! | 22:51 |
| BigRedS | g'morning ascenseur | 22:52 |
| ascenseur | aha, 7 minutes to go here ;) | 22:53 |
| ascenseur | how are you BigRedS | 22:53 |
| BigRedS | ah, it's always morning in my world | 22:53 |
| BigRedS | I'm all good. Just been playing quake. Scared the crap out of me :/ | 22:53 |
| BigRedS | you? | 22:53 |
| ascenseur | Woo :) I'm very good thanks! Just got a lot of things sorted which have made things all the much brighter :) | 22:54 |
| ascenseur | VoIP and IPv6 - both unrelated, but they've been giving me a headache for weeks! | 22:54 |
| BigRedS | haha | 22:59 |
| BigRedS | that's a pair of abbreviations I've avoided thus far | 22:59 |
| BigRedS | voip is voodoo as far as I'm concerned | 22:59 |
| BigRedS | I'm surprised every time it works | 23:00 |
| penguin42 | BigRedS: Yeh but so are most comms systems - just think what a moile has to do | 23:01 |
| BigRedS | I used to help look after a pbx, so I should know some of it, I suppose | 23:03 |
| BigRedS | it's just that phone networks aren't IP networks in my head I think | 23:03 |
| BigRedS | "what do you mean it's not got a dhcp lease? It's a phone" etc. | 23:03 |
| penguin42 | but mobile stuff is even crazier isn't it? | 23:10 |
| BigRedS | oh yeah | 23:18 |
| BigRedS | I try not to think about that :) | 23:18 |
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