[08:38] <nuvolari> wow
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[08:38] <nuvolari> that's on my phone
[08:38] <nuvolari> I just wish my data card would connect
[08:41] <kbmonkey> ello
[08:41] <sakhi> morning
[08:41] <kbmonkey> awe still no connect with the 3g nuvolari ? :( 
[08:44] <nuvolari> mornings
[08:44] <nuvolari> ye kbmonkey 
[08:44] <nuvolari> and it's not just me
[08:44] <nuvolari> lady from work that lives in Umhlanga has the same issue
[08:44] <nuvolari> and I tried with 2 data cards
[08:45] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: heh, but this time I'm connected with my 'droid. I gave up on the Sony Ericsson P1i... the speed is as good as no connection at all
[08:46] <nuvolari> and to think it was fast back then
[08:56]  * Symmetria just listed speedtest.tenet.ac.za
[09:02] <nuvolari> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1377880825.png
[09:02] <nuvolari> oh wait
[09:03] <nuvolari> Symmetria: why did it go to speedtest.net?
[09:04] <kbmonkey> is that your 'droid speed test?
[09:06] <Symmetria> nuvolari huh? speedtest.tenet.ac.za go speedtest.net?
[09:06] <nuvolari> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IRB4tV8mAGk/ThgZy7PW3lI/AAAAAAAABkQ/lKoAX36u3Qk/s429/Screenshot-Speedtest.net+Mini+Bandwidth+Speed+Test+-+Chromium.png
[09:06] <nuvolari> Symmetria: nevermind :P I clicked on Umhlanga
[09:06] <nuvolari> after the initial test
[09:07] <nuvolari> then it went to speedtest.net
[09:07] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: ye
[09:07] <Symmetria> kbmonkey here is a scary speedtest 
[09:07] <Symmetria> http://mirror.ac.za/speedtest-ufs.jpg
[09:07] <Symmetria> :P that was a test from bloemfontein to speedtest.tenet.ac.za 
[09:07] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: that first one of mine was from here to umhlanga
[09:07] <Symmetria> after we modified the file download size slightly to actually scale up
[09:08] <nuvolari> the second one is Symmetria's test
[09:09] <Symmetria> heh that UFS test is truely nuts though
[09:11] <sakhi> http://mirror.ac.za/speedtest-uwc.jpg  ?
[09:12] <Symmetria> sakhi heh, you'll need to run one from UWC
[09:12] <Symmetria> I dont have access to a box there
[09:12] <Symmetria> to test
[09:12] <Symmetria> and uwc is better to use speedtest-cpt.tenet.ac.za I suspect
[09:13] <sakhi> :)50.78 Mbps
[09:13] <Symmetria> is that to cpt or to the joburg one?
[09:14] <sakhi> I'm doing Joburg now and its 22.72Mbps
[09:14] <Symmetria> thats your latency slowing it down
[09:30] <nuvolari> ugh :-/ need to go out. Hate shopping
[09:30] <nuvolari> bbl
[10:20] <nlsthzn> Speed... give me what I need ... YEAH!
[11:14] <Squirm2> morning
[12:41] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos 
[12:42] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  dog jy gaan af wees die naweek
[12:42] <Kilos> moelik nê
[12:42] <nuvolari> Kilos: ja nee oom. het maar 'n exstra data bundle vir my foon gekoop
[12:42] <Kilos> afternoon all
[12:42] <Kilos> lol
[12:43] <Kilos> daai g+ soek en eiteindlik ingaan het my data gedooi dis hoekom ek so laat hier opkom
[12:43] <Kilos> ek dink dis all die prentjies
[12:44] <Kilos> avatars en goed
[12:44] <Kilos> maar dit werk darem nou
[12:46] <nuvolari> \o/
[12:46] <nuvolari> dis goed oom :D
[12:47] <Kilos> ja man dit was n groot stoeiery
[12:47] <nuvolari> nou kan gemoedere rus, oom is deel van ons sirkel :)
[12:47] <Kilos> ja ek kry epos dat hele paar my al in hulle sircels gesit het
[12:47] <Kilos> sirkel
[12:49] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[12:49]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[12:49] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all
[12:49] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[12:50] <Kilos> lo kbmonkey  hurry for coffee
[12:50] <Kilos> nuvolari, koffie?
[12:53] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[12:53] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[12:53] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[12:53]  * Kilos sips on my lonesome
[12:58] <nuvolari> Kilos: seblief oom!
[12:58] <Kilos> lol
[12:58] <nuvolari> opi foon
[12:58] <Kilos> skuus
[12:59] <kbmonkey> lo Kilos nuvolari and Maaz 
[12:59] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee on
[12:59]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[13:00] <kbmonkey> Maaz, do my laundry too?
[13:00] <Maaz> kbmonkey: *blink*
[13:00] <Kilos> lol
[13:00] <kbmonkey> ha ha just kidding, i did it already
[13:01] <nuvolari> lo kbmonkey 
[13:01]  * nuvolari munch beestong
[13:01] <nuvolari> my ma het saamgebring
[13:01] <nuvolari> yum
[13:01] <Kilos> lekker
[13:03] <kbmonkey> beestong? yuck :p
[13:03] <Kilos> hehe
[13:03] <Kilos> dis lekker man
[13:03] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kbmonkey!
[13:04] <Kilos> beter as bees poepol
[13:04] <kbmonkey> ha ha
[13:14] <nlsthzn> Paul Scott... He in the Loco?
[13:14] <Kilos> ?
[13:15] <nlsthzn> Just someone I see a lot of comments on in Google + ... so was thinking he might be part of the Loco...
[13:16] <Kilos> quite a few names i dont know either. but peeps hide behind nicks normally
[13:20] <nlsthzn> My reason for asking... :)
[13:20] <Kilos> hehe
[13:20] <Kilos> and maaz dunno either
[13:21] <nlsthzn> Maaz doesn't like me so he woudn't tell in any case
[13:21] <Kilos> aw
[13:21] <Kilos> maaz likes everyone
[13:21] <Maaz> Kilos: What?
[13:22] <Kilos> twit bot
[13:22] <Kilos> Maaz, whois nlsthzn 
[13:22] <Maaz> Kilos: What?
[13:22] <Kilos> grrr
[13:22] <Kilos> lo |3o|3 
[13:22] <nlsthzn> :)
[13:23] <|3o|3> hey Kilos, what's up?
[13:23] <Kilos> all good ty and there |3o|3 
[13:23] <Kilos> everyone is g+ mad
[13:23] <|3o|3> Erm...
[13:23] <|3o|3> the weather has improved which is good :D
[13:23] <Kilos> wish it would improve here
[13:24] <Kilos> nights are still too cold
[13:24] <Kilos> ans sun only lekker if you out of the wind
[13:29] <nuvolari> weather is nice here
[13:29] <nuvolari> not much sun though
[13:30] <kbmonkey> im being summoned to westville, il have to catch up later :]
[13:31] <Kilos> go safe
[15:55] <Kilos> hi ludo
[15:55] <Kilos> oh hi Guest36050 
[16:01] <Symmetria> soooooooooooo
[16:01] <Symmetria> to buy new car
[16:01] <Symmetria> or not to buy new car
[16:01] <Symmetria> this is the question :P
[16:01] <Kilos> lol
[16:01] <Symmetria> (and I been tempted all day but lol, mustttt saveeeee moneyyyyy, but car is sooooo sweet)
[16:01] <Kilos> big decision
[16:02] <Symmetria> haha, impulsive :P I get like this, and lol, will probably end up doing it as well, but will resist the urge for as long as possible
[16:02]  * Symmetria wants that car :P
[16:03] <Kilos> lol
[16:04] <highvoltage> Symmetria: don't you have a fancy car already?
[16:10] <Symmetria> heh
[16:10] <Symmetria> have a 335i 
[16:10] <Symmetria> thinking of replacing it with a 1M 
[16:11] <Symmetria> BMW just came out with that 1M Coupe 
[16:11] <Symmetria> and its soooo pretty
[16:13] <Symmetria> http://www.bmw.co.za/products/automobiles/m/m1coupe/images.asp#
[16:13] <Symmetria> look at that, its stunning 
[16:37] <nuvolari> Symmetria: if you really want to buy it, but already have a nice car, still buy it and donate it to charity. problem solved. :P your buy urge is solved
[16:37] <Kilos> lol
[16:38] <Kilos> and your pocket wont itch anymore
[16:39] <nuvolari> see, even oom Kilos knows what i mean :P
[16:39] <Kilos> lol
[16:39] <Kilos> he just wears the wrong make of denims
[16:39] <Kilos> needs to get some with tight pockets
[16:40] <Symmetria> LOL
[16:40] <Symmetria> I would need to trade in my car to afford it :P
[16:40] <Symmetria> its kinda stupid expensive :P 
[16:40] <Symmetria> particularly with the extras I want on it
[16:40] <Kilos> price Symmetria ?
[16:40] <Symmetria> with the extras I want? 654k 
[16:41] <Kilos> ouch
[16:41] <Symmetria> and I'd be lucky to get like, 375 for my current car :(
[16:41] <Kilos> do they lose value so quick
[16:41] <Symmetria> but lol, there is something really appealing bout a car that can do a thousand meter sprint from standstill in 23.6 seconds 
[16:41] <Kilos> that one isnt 2 years old yet
[16:42] <Symmetria> heh, current car wasnt new when I bought it, had 16 thousand on the clock, so it had already lost a lot of value
[16:42] <Symmetria> I paid 460 for current one 
[16:42] <Kilos> ah
[16:42] <nuvolari> Symmetria: if you really need a smart car, get an Audi A6
[16:42] <Symmetria> so *shrug* not 2 bad 
[16:42] <Symmetria> nuvolari heh, the A6 isnt *NEARLY* quick enough for me 
[16:42] <Symmetria> my current car does 0-100 in 5.7
[16:42] <Symmetria> the 1M can do it in 4.9 
[16:43] <nuvolari> Symmetria: you have enough money, mod it
[16:43] <Symmetria> (heh, and my current car is chipped, it does top true speed of 308)
[16:43] <Symmetria> nuvolari LOL, I'd rather buy the 1M and mod that :P 
[16:43] <Kilos> lol
[16:43] <nuvolari> and it's not like you can use that acceleration in ZA without breaking the law
[16:43] <Symmetria> nuvolari LOL, ummm when it comes to cars, the latter part of that sentence hasnt really made much difference in my life :P
[16:44] <Symmetria> there are very long stretches of open road where you aint gonna find cops :P
[16:44] <nuvolari> bmw's are only for windgatte and Symmetria :P
[16:44] <nuvolari> *cough*
[16:44]  * nuvolari makes sure Symmetria does'nt know where he stays
[16:44] <nuvolari> *doesn't
[16:44] <Kilos> i know the feeling
[16:44] <Kilos> called need for speed
[16:44] <Symmetria> :P I dont need to know where you stay, I just need to find your IP :P
[16:45] <Symmetria> LOL kilos, you know the average speed calculator in a car?
[16:45] <nuvolari> Symmetria: no need to, vodacom already mess up my service
[16:45] <Symmetria> that if you sitting doing 120 over a long distance normally sits at around 90 odd?
[16:45] <Kilos> Symmetria, no?
[16:45]  * Symmetria looks to see if he has this picture
[16:45] <Kilos> i rode bikes for speed
[16:45] <Symmetria> heh kilos, if your car has an average speed calculator, and you do 500 or 600 kilometers, you're likely to hit an average of around 90
[16:46] <Symmetria> if you doing 120 all the way
[16:46] <Kilos> oh yes that goodie inna dash
[16:46] <Kilos> 16v jetta had one
[16:46] <Symmetria> https://picasaweb.google.com/Symm001/RandomPictures#5599944946263109954
[16:46] <Kilos> gives ambient temps etc as well
[16:46] <Symmetria> look closely at that thing :P
[16:47] <Kilos> i cant browse at the mo
[16:47] <Symmetria> heh kilos, 682 kilometers, average speed, 130.5 
[16:47] <Symmetria> that was going windhoek -> .za border 
[16:47] <Kilos> thats good
[16:47] <Symmetria> kilos LOL, I was flying low to do that kinda average speed
[16:48] <Symmetria> (like 200+)
[16:48] <Kilos> yeah
[16:48] <Kilos> you dont do bikes?
[16:49] <Kilos> much more fun. stretches your arms
[16:49] <Symmetria> nah, I like fast cars, not fast coffins :)
[16:49] <Kilos> lol
[16:49] <Symmetria> and heh, I do long distance, a bike on long distance isnt exactly pleasant 
[16:49] <Symmetria> (particularly when you talking a thousand kilometers at a time)
[16:49] <Kilos> no very tiring
[17:23] <nlsthzn> Night all
[17:38] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Nothing wrong with sending to other media (although you should mention the original tweeter), but on Twitter itself manual resends lose metadata ;-)
[17:40] <inetpro> cocooncrash: that's where I do not agree, I don't know the original tweeter and am not aiming to get involved with him or her
[17:40] <inetpro> for me it's all about the story which I find interesting
[17:42] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Sure, but I didn't really discover it, someone else injected it into the system and IMHO they should be able to track how/where their content/whatever spreads.
[17:43] <inetpro> cocooncrash: well you obviously found it interesting didn't you? And since I know you, in a way, I don't mind choqok adding your name
[17:43] <inetpro> that is how it was done on twitter for a very long time
[17:44] <cocooncrash> inetpro: I did, which is why I decided to spread it
[17:44] <cocooncrash> inetpro: But the original RTs were a hack
[17:44] <inetpro> says who?
[17:44] <cocooncrash> https://twitter.com/#!/RianVDM/status/89576634432233473
[17:45] <cocooncrash> See how it tracks who retweeted it, so you can determine the popularity of a post
[17:45] <cocooncrash> Traditional RTs firstly don't allow that to be done easily, and secondly only work up to one level of the chain.
[17:45] <inetpro> well I honestly don't really care about the popularity
[17:46] <inetpro> and twitter got popular without the retweet function
[17:46] <inetpro> api*
[17:46] <cocooncrash> TBF, AFAIK traditional RTs chained the list of tweeters, but that gets out of hand quickly.
[17:47] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Sure, but why can't it be improved? :)
[17:47] <inetpro> cocooncrash: well it's definitely not perfect as it is
[17:47] <cocooncrash> Twitter in general?
[17:49] <inetpro> cocooncrash: search for "why it's a mistake to use retweet"
[17:49] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Ye, I skimmed that article and mostly disagreed ;-)
[17:50] <inetpro> well there are more of those articles
[17:51] <inetpro> and I happen to agree with some of the points raised
[17:52] <inetpro> but one big reason for me to manually resend is so that the post will automagically appear on facebook
[17:52] <cocooncrash> Fair enough
[17:53] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Does Choqok do Facebook?
[17:53] <inetpro> I have had many a post cause a nice unexpected conversation on FB after tweeting it
[17:53] <inetpro> or even after a manual resend
[17:54] <inetpro> cocooncrash: I doubt
[17:54] <cocooncrash> inetpro: So how do your posts get to FB?
[17:54] <inetpro> on FB  installed a twitter app if I remember correctly
[17:55] <Kilos> night all. keep warm
[17:55] <inetpro> and I have researched how to pull in retweets but have not found the solution, yet
[17:55] <inetpro> hi Kilos, bye Kilos
[17:58] <cocooncrash> inetpro: I'd argue that that's a bug in the Twitter FB app then
[17:58] <inetpro> cocooncrash: and I have thought about breaking the automated link between FB and twitter but I still like the convenience
[17:58] <cocooncrash> Hrm, I wonder if FriendFeed is pushing my tweets to FB...
[18:03] <inetpro> the new retweet takes the "social" out of "social media" by eliminating conversation and interaction
[18:10] <inetpro> cocooncrash: btw, I really like the new google+ way where I can choose the target audience with every posting
[18:43] <marcog> cocooncrash: it's not a bug, they filter out RTs and directed tweets (e.g. @user foo bar) on purpose
[18:43] <marcog> and i like that
[18:43] <marcog> cause i don't want to overload my FB feed
[18:43] <marcog> generally RTs are something my twitter followers would be far more interested in than my FB friends
[19:42] <Symmetria> man, I wish du had a -g, instead of having to do du -B 1073741824
[20:01] <inetpro> hmm Symmetria,now that you talk about it, I wish I had a du g+ to see the size of my google+ account :-)
[20:02] <inetpro> Symmetria: doesn't du -h do it for you?
[20:04] <inetpro> marcog: I agree with you, sometimes it is nice to do a simple retweet just to your twitter followers
[20:07] <Symmetria> inetpro only if you have less space than X number of terabytes
[20:07] <Symmetria> otherwise -h shows you terabytes not gigabytes
[20:07] <Symmetria> which can be annoying
[20:07] <Symmetria> but you can do -B 1G 
[20:07] <inetpro> ok
[20:08] <inetpro> I guess that can get annoying 
[20:09] <inetpro> Symmetria: who maitains coreutils?
[20:10] <inetpro> http://gnu.org/software/coreutils
[20:12] <Symmetria> inetpro dunno
[20:13] <Symmetria> heh inetpro check this:
[20:13] <Symmetria> http://pastebin.com/mz4F7zGz
[20:13] <Symmetria> then for more redundancy I used md to do a software mirror on sdc and sde
[20:14] <inetpro> yikes
[20:15] <Symmetria> lol, its pretty :)
[20:30] <Kerbero> time for more space it seems
[20:32] <Symmetria> btw, if anyone is looking to buy REALLY nice harddrives
[20:32] <Symmetria> I recommend these:
[20:32] <Symmetria> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148619
[20:32] <Symmetria> probably the fastest non-SSD disks you're gonna find 
[20:38] <Kerbero> looks like a normal hdd to me with a high price
[20:39] <Symmetria> Kerbero heh, nah, its got SAS firmware on it
[20:39] <Kerbero> o ok
[20:39] <Symmetria> full sync read/write, they are fast as hell :)
[20:39] <Kerbero> not for normal users then
[20:40] <Kerbero> for that price i would rather buy a ssd
[20:40] <Symmetria> heh, I have 3 at home in my home server, my desktops use other disks
[20:40] <Symmetria> I wouldnt use SSD's for 99% of things
[20:40] <Symmetria> SSD's have limited number of writes, you can kill those things pretty damn fast :)
[20:40] <Kerbero> i use hdd's for storage
[20:40] <Kerbero> and ssd's for os's
[20:41] <Kerbero> i won't care if i lose my OS
[20:41] <Symmetria> yeah SSD for operating system works ok, still a lot more expensive than those SAS disks though in terms of price per meg
[20:41] <Kerbero> even my desktop is symlinked to a hdd
[20:41] <Symmetria> but if you're only use it for OS you dont need huge space
[20:41] <Kerbero> exactly
[20:41] <Kerbero> my netbook only has a ssd
[20:42] <Kerbero> the chipset can only do 140MB/s
[20:42] <Kerbero> the ssd about 250
[20:42] <Kerbero> a waste of ssd, but nice if you throw the netbook around
[20:42] <Kerbero> and use it in a car
[20:43] <Symmetria> I managed to flatline the NIC in mirror.ac.za reading directly off the disks, but thats only because of the numbers of disks it can read off similtaneously with the arrays
[20:43] <Symmetria> think I peaked it out at about 9.6gigabit/second directly off the disks
[20:43] <Kerbero> Symmetria: if you have a router in AMS, do you also have a fiber going there?
[20:43] <Symmetria> Kerbero 10G leased wave from lnd to ams
[20:44] <Kerbero> ahh ok
[20:44] <Symmetria> dirt cheap to lease a wave between those 2
[20:44] <Symmetria> (like, 2.2k euros a month)
[20:44] <Kerbero> so theoretically i should be able to get my full 100mbps from groningen to stellenbosch campus?
[20:45] <Symmetria> Kerbero even without the AMS router you should be able to do that if your tcp window sizes are big enough and if stellenbosch isnt limiting anything
[20:45] <Symmetria> without even blinking 
[20:45] <Kerbero> ok
[20:45] <Symmetria> the london router has 30gig of direct internet access attached to it
[20:45] <Kerbero> i will test that
[20:46] <Symmetria> and we've tested a udp stream from sweden over the general internet back to .za at over 6 gigabit/second
[20:46] <Kerbero> do you know of the google server farm in the eems haven?
[20:46] <Kerbero> right in the north of the netherlands
[20:47] <Symmetria> never actually seen it, heard of it but not much more than that
[20:47] <Kerbero> it is located right next to a gas power plant
[20:47] <Symmetria> heh, google typically doesnt let anyone anywhere near their server farms, or even admit where they are :P
[20:47] <Kerbero> according to rumours it takes up exacly as much power as the entire groningen cirty
[20:47] <Kerbero> hehe
[20:48] <Kerbero> yeah, that was part of the rumour that google doesn;t itz' theirs
[20:48] <Kerbero> *doen't say
[20:48] <Symmetria> heh, I only know for a fact where 5 of the google points of presence are, and all 5 arent server farms, they are all african mini-nodes
[20:48] <Symmetria> (don't ask, I won't be able to tell you where they are haha)
[20:48] <Kerbero> lol
[20:49] <Kerbero> is that like you know the ip but don;t know fisically where they are?
[20:49] <Kerbero> i'm typing very badly now
[20:49] <Kerbero> :(
[20:49] <Symmetria> lol, no, I know where they physically are, I'd just be breaking a lot of rules by saying where they are :P
[20:49] <Kerbero> ahh ok
[20:49] <Symmetria> btw, stellenbosch going offline later tonighyt
[20:49] <Kerbero> the one is in bree street
[20:49] <Kerbero> ok
[20:50] <Symmetria> if all goes well, it will only be 10 minutes 
[20:50] <Kerbero> thanx for telling
[20:50] <Kerbero> ok
[20:50] <Symmetria> if everything goes to hell, it will be a coupla hours :p
[20:50] <Symmetria> I'm upgrading both joburg routers, the pretoria router and the capetown router (the main provider edge routers)
[20:50] <Kerbero> reason?
[20:50] <Kerbero> o ok
[20:50] <Symmetria> complete with both operating system and line card firmware upgrades
[20:50] <Kerbero> i heard about that
[20:50] <Symmetria> router takes anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes to boot
[20:51] <Kerbero> saw your mail about it a few days ago
[20:51] <Symmetria> capetown will be last router to be done
[20:51] <Kerbero> is the OS buggy?
[20:51] <Symmetria> heh, leaving capetown till last because I got guys in joburg and pretoria on standby if it goes to hell
[20:51] <Symmetria> versus in capetown I gotta drive myself :P
[20:51] <Symmetria> Kerbero very at the moment :)
[20:51] <Symmetria> we're trying to sort out about 28 different bugs we know of in the current code
[20:52] <Kerbero> so after the upgrade our internet stability should be better
[20:52] <Symmetria> heh, well, stellenbosch hasnt had a bad stability record from our network point of view
[20:52] <Symmetria> I'm not sure that any of the bugs being fixed tonight would directly affect stellies
[20:52] <Kerbero> well, my ping graphs disagree
[20:52] <Symmetria> *hrm* where have you been pinging?
[20:52] <Kerbero> telkomsa.net
[20:52] <Kerbero> google.com
[20:52] <Kerbero> and
[20:53] <Kerbero> dealextreme.com
[20:53] <Symmetria> got graphs I can look at?
[20:53] <Kerbero> uhm
[20:53] <Kerbero> i'm not in STB atm
[20:53] <Symmetria> you will see big jumps in graphs to internationals if we get backbone failures because traffic will reroute 
[20:53] <Symmetria> so instead of going cpt -> plz -> els -> dur -> mtz -> international
[20:54] <Symmetria> it will go cpt -> bfn -> jnb -> pta -> dur -> mtz -> international
[20:54] <Kerbero> if i see weird internet latencies in two weeks' time i'll send you graphs
[20:54] <Symmetria> and the secondary path is a HELL of a lot further 
[20:54] <Symmetria> and the telkom path between capetown and durban on that primary route isnt the most stable of paths
[20:54] <Symmetria> it probably goes down at least once a week 
[20:54] <Symmetria> (assholes in the eastern cape keep stealing the fiber)
[20:54] <Kerbero> lol
[20:54] <Kerbero> n00bs
[20:55] <Symmetria> anyway :) off to finish movie before the maintenance window
[20:55] <Kerbero> i wonder if the scrap metal guys actually pay them for the fiber
[20:55] <Kerbero> cheers Symmetria