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rbelemScottK, do i have permission to sponsor?00:17
ScottKNo.  You need to be either in kubuntu-dev or Ubuntu core-dev.00:18
rbelemoki :-)00:19
EagleScreenwhat happens with oneiric alpha2 images? they aren't in cdimage.ubuntu.com00:56
EagleScreendaily-live neither since 5, july00:57
ScottKKubuntu skipped Alpha 2.00:58
ScottKWe're currently in the middle of switching to KDE 4.7 and so things are a bit broken (see apachelogger's mail to kubuntu-devel a few days ago)00:59
EagleScreenokay00:59
ScottKNCommander: No one bit on the compiler bug in #linaro, so I guess we can discuss on Monday.03:02
bambeemorning07:37
valorieso stuff is still somewhat broken, and I should hold off on updates still?07:44
valoriebtw: http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2011/07/teamwork.html07:45
valoriekudos and mucho thanks to all of you07:45
apacheloggerScottK: re blinken, yes, that is how awesome things could be ^^08:16
apacheloggerinterestingly enough in 24h all my packages did not get reviewed :S08:20
valorieyou weren't cracking the whip!\08:30
CIA-52[kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110710092345-yr9au8kdr757y1nh * debian/ (copyrightgen.rb copyright) Fix copyright and add a script that spits out dep5 for wallpapers ^^09:24
CIA-52[kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110710092626-ab77bigcxskpp6qw * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu109:26
apacheloggerbambee: is libkexiv2 fixed now?09:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: kate and libkipi fixeD?09:30
bambeeapachelogger: it is09:30
apacheloggerbambee: I still don't see an update to the symbols files though?09:31
bambeearfff you're talking about the branch :\09:32
apacheloggeryes09:32
bambeeI've to merge it (I totally forgot that)09:32
bambeeo_O09:32
apachelogger^^09:32
* apachelogger uploads kgamma meanwhile09:32
bambeeI've a family dinner now, but don't worry I will merge it this evening !!09:33
apacheloggerkk, enjoy lunch09:33
bambee(however it's uploaded into the ppa since few days)09:33
CIA-52[kgamma] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110710093601-89fthrr6woj0h7sx * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu109:36
yofelmorning09:37
apacheloggeryou know, I should just let stuff sit in bzr until someone other than me moves their arse09:37
yofelyou could upload new meta-kde from bzr09:37
yofelor marble09:38
apacheloggernah09:38
apacheloggerseems all the stuff I need for mobile is in oneiric09:38
yofel. . .09:39
yofelsomeone promote me to kubuntu-dev and motu so we can deprecate apachelogger...09:39
apacheloggershit is not getting uploaded or reviewed without me09:39
apacheloggerthat is not how this is supposed to work09:40
apacheloggerterrible wrongness09:40
apacheloggeryofel: debian/.rules.kate-swp09:48
yofelhuh?09:48
apacheloggerin meta-kde09:48
apacheloggeryofel: vcs field would be good to have if it is in bzr09:48
yofeltrue09:48
yofelthat kate-swp file seems to be there since a long time ago o.O (in the package at least)09:49
yofelremoved09:49
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (.rules.kate-swp control) Add Vcs fields for bzr and remove editor swp file09:51
debfxyofel: so when are you going to apply for kubuntu-dev?10:02
yofelgood question... you think I should?10:03
debfxdefinitely10:04
* yofel will look at the procedure later then10:04
apacheloggerQuintasan_: you did not push kdemm10:06
debfxgreat :)10:06
debfxbasically you have to prepare a wiki page and write a mail to kubuntu-devel to organize a kubuntu-dev meeting10:07
apacheloggerNightrose: does you haz time to prescreen blog post?11:15
Nightroseapachelogger: yes11:16
apacheloggerNightrose: mail sent11:19
Nightrosek11:20
apacheloggerNightrose: thx :*11:34
apacheloggerNightrose: should the gsoc stauts report page on the community wiki implement alphabetical order?11:35
Nightroseapachelogger: yw - and so far everyone just added their name at the bottom - i think that's ok11:36
apacheloggerkk11:36
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Quintasan_...13:17
Quintasan_apachelogger: I'm busy trying to install Windows now13:17
yofel...13:17
Quintasan_This little bastard won't install for some retarded reason13:17
yofelwhich ancient release are you trying to install?13:17
Quintasan_713:18
Quintasan_Setup was unable to create or find a system partition13:18
yofelLOL, and I thought only ubuntu was able to do that ^^13:18
Quintasan_On a !#%@ NTFS partition formatted within installer13:18
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
QuintasanI was wondering if it can get more retarded than this13:18
CIA-52[lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 109 * bin/kopypackages dump -r option and make both source and target release required. Also add -q and -c <credfile> options to make the script scriptable13:21
ximionhi!15:00
ximiondoes anyone know something about the state of Kate in Oneiric?15:00
ximioncurrently, kate is broken because of packaging issues15:00
ximion(see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277420 )15:00
ubottuKDE bug 277420 in general "Kate crash when launching under Oneiric alpha 2" [Crash,Needsinfo: fixed]15:00
ximionI added some more info to this bug report, since this is a Kubuntu issue and not KDE's fault15:01
ScottKI'll be gone most of today, but will be able to do New tonight.15:04
ScottKximion: No surprising since we still have kate from KDE 4.6 and libs from 4.7.15:04
ScottKPlease just close the bug and file a new one if there's still a problem after it's updated.15:05
ximionScottK, exactly - that's why I was not sure if filing a bug makes sense if there will be a new kate package soon15:05
ximion(kate has been split out of kdesdk...)15:05
ScottKFiling a bug is pointless.15:06
ximionthere shouldn't be any problem with an updated kate15:07
ximionbecause kate is maybe the most important tool on my desktop, I compiled it from source and it works very well15:07
ximion(the current KDE upgrade paths seem to be broken at time in Oneiric - last updated tried to remove kwin)15:09
yofelximion: there is no problem with kate 4.7 here, so once the package is updated it will work fine15:09
jjesseximion what do you mean aobut current kde upgrade?  i did a dist-upgrade on friday w/o problems from natty -> oneric15:09
yofeljjesse: we started putting 4.7 packages in O the last 2 days15:10
yofelso you upgraded just before that ^^15:10
jjesseoh ok15:10
jjessejust in time :)15:10
ximionjjesse, kate 4.7 work great here too :)15:10
ScottKapachelogger: kiten is a reject due to data/edict_kanjidic_licence.html not in debian/copyright.15:11
jjesseyeah i haven't updated since i did-upstrade15:11
ximionbut the side-effects of the KDE 4.6/4.7 mix here are sometimes very weird...15:11
HorusHorrenduswhen you finished packaging kde 4.7 rc 1 ... will it be easier for you to package rc2/release or will it be that much work always from now onwards?15:17
QuintasanHorusHorrendus: It will be easier15:29
HorusHorrendusgreat news ;)15:36
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 219 * debian/ (changelog control) Bump various breaks/replaces to catch the package version from the16:59
CIA-52[lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 110 * bin/kopypackages put -h into the synopsis17:08
bambeeCan someone merge this branch ? https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2/+merge/6746117:38
yofellooking17:40
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/ (libkexiv2-10.install libkexiv2-10.symbols) Merge branch lp:~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv217:44
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apacheloggerScottK: poor thing17:55
apacheloggeryofel: luv the copy script17:56
apacheloggersuppose we should make a release soonish17:56
apacheloggerScottK: did the other plunder get in?17:56
yofel:D17:57
bambeeyofel: thanks18:05
* apachelogger fixes the kitten18:06
apacheloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu418:06
apachelogger-t18:06
apachelogger:P18:06
* yofel goes writing his kubuntu-dev wiki page18:14
apacheloggerScottK: this kiten business is actually way confusing18:20
apacheloggerinstall( FILES data/edict data/kanjidic data/radkfile data/vconj data/romkana.cnv DESTINATION ${DATA_INSTALL_DIR}/kiten)18:21
apachelogger./control:Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, edict, kanjidic18:21
apacheloggerthat aint not making no sense IMHO18:21
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yofelapachelogger: you've seen my work here a lot, do you think I should apply for kubuntu-dev? (i.e. would I get a +1 from you?)18:42
=== mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin
CIA-52[lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 111 * bin/kopypackages python3 doesn't support octal file modes18:54
apacheloggeryofel: do you have a wiki page yet19:01
yofelwriting one19:02
yofeltrying to remember what I did here other than KDE and neon packaging19:02
shadeslayer\o19:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: on the kate issues now19:04
* shadeslayer wonders what was wrong with kipi19:05
shadeslayerah, hmm19:06
yofelapachelogger: here's what I have so far https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PhilipMuskovac/KubuntuDevApplication19:07
shadeslayeroh, yofel apply for kubuntu-dev ?19:08
yofelwell, thinking loudly about it ^^19:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: see wiki for libkipi19:08
shadeslayeryofel: best of luck :D19:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw me and yofel have a bit of a issue with qemu + oneiric + ARM kernel19:11
shadeslayerif you have some free time, could you help us?19:12
yofelwell, works fine with natty kernel, but someone should update that wiki for oneiric19:12
apacheloggerI do not compute right now19:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: what be you talking about?19:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: well, we were able to produce a qemu natty ARM image19:17
shadeslayerwhich we upgraded to oneiric19:17
shadeslayerbut due to changes in the kernels in oneric, we can't get a proper oneiric vmlinuz to boot with qemu19:18
apacheloggeryofel: IMHO it makes sense to list interesting/complicate/funky stuff you have done, having done a bazillion packages alone does not qualify for developer status ^^19:18
yofeltrue19:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: what is a qemu arm image?19:18
shadeslayerkernel panics because it can't find proper partitions19:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: the one you produce using rootstock19:19
apacheloggeraha19:19
apacheloggerso why not create an oneiric image?19:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: permission errors19:19
shadeslayeri'm assuming its the same issue plaguing the pbuilders19:19
yofelshould be, it's the same package that fails to install19:19
apacheloggerwell then19:20
apacheloggerwait for a fix :P19:20
apacheloggeror prod someone into fixing it faster19:20
shadeslayeri think they already are on the issue, so we'll just wait for a fix19:23
shadeslayernow to figure out kate19:25
apacheloggerI should be leaving19:35
apacheloggertoo much rain19:35
* apachelogger is scared19:35
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
yofelwhere to?19:36
shadeslayerok, need your opinion on usr/lib/libkatepartinterfaces.so.4.7.0 , should i provide symbols for this even tho we have been shipping this lib in kate?19:39
yofelwell, it was a package of it's own since it was in kdelibs before, kate seems to be the only rdepend though19:46
shadeslayeruh, no, that lib was shipped in kate19:47
shadeslayerkate: /usr/lib/libkateinterfaces.so.4.6.019:47
shadeslayeroh fooey19:47
yofel!info libkatepartinterfaces419:47
ubottulibkatepartinterfaces4 (source: kde4libs): the kate part library. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu4 (natty), package size 668 kB, installed size 2476 kB19:47
yofeland *that's* a different lib ^^19:48
shadeslayeryeah, typo19:48
shadeslayeri was looking at the other libs meanwhile19:48
shadeslayerwhat i want to know is should i provide symbols for /libkateinterfaces.so.4.6.019:49
shadeslayerthe previous lib already has symbols in the new packaging19:49
yofelI would say yes since it's in /usr/lib, not in /usr/lib/kde4 and has a proper SO version. But kate is probably the only app that actually uses that library19:53
yofelwell, and kwrite - which is in the same package too19:54
shadeslayeryofel: kwrite is in its own package19:56
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
Quintasanyofel: Go for it. I don't see why you can't be kubuntu-dev20:05
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 16 * debian/libkatepartinterfaces4.symbols Add symbols for libkatepartinterfaces420:19
shadeslayer^^ upload ready20:19
shadeslayeryofel: how difficult are the bindings?20:24
yofelwhich ones?20:25
shadeslayerthe ones you packaged20:25
yofelsmoke? someone added license copies to git master, but there's still no copyright information in the files20:25
shadeslayerno, i mean the packaging itself, apart from the license stuff20:26
shadeslayeri'm thinking of taking up kimono20:26
shadeslayersurprise surprise, no licensing info20:27
yofelwell, I took most from debian, perl is easy, but I think Quintasan can tall you stories about mono20:27
yofel*tell20:27
Quintasanshadeslayer: BROTIP: use dh --with cli20:28
QuintasanThat's all I can tell you from that mess20:28
Quintasanor wait20:28
Quintasankimono, I think that should be --with kde20:28
shadeslayerwtf is cli ? 0.o20:28
QuintasanDidn't look at the mk20:29
QuintasanIt works (TM)20:29
shadeslayerQuintasan: i mean, what does it do20:30
QuintasanBuilds mono magic20:30
yofelalthough, I would rather do kimono rc2 if I were you20:31
shadeslayeroh, why so?20:32
yofelless work? ^^20:32
shadeslayerah :P20:32
shadeslayeri'll fix the licenses at least 20:32
yofelthen again, needs sc-dev-latest bump :/20:32
yofelI'll look at kdelibs as soon as we have most things figured out20:32
* yofel checks what needs fixing20:33
yofelQuintasan: can you review marble? I would like to have that off the list ^^20:33
QuintasanRight now?20:33
shadeslayerkate as well if you can manage it20:34
yofelnah, can be tomorrow, but soon20:34
yofelit blocks kdeplasma-addons after all20:34
Quintasanokay20:35
shadeslayerah well then, i'll do kdevelop20:37
yofelhm20:38
* yofel tries to build marble on armel20:38
yofelshould be done when I wake up tomorrow I guess20:38
shadeslayerhahah :D20:38
yofelhey, the VM is SLOW, even on my 2GHz core220:38
shadeslayeryeah i know :P20:39
shadeslayerwtf20:48
shadeslayerhow did this happen http://paste.kde.org/9417720:48
yofelo.O20:49
shadeslayerthats after the 4.6.5 upgrades, i noticed nvidia-current was gone20:49
yofeldid not happen on my desktop20:50
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/control fix kde-sc-dev-latest build-dep20:51
shadeslayeryofel: do you have xorg-edgers enabled?20:51
yofelno20:51
shadeslayerhmm, i have that enabled, maybe thats why20:52
shadeslayeranyways, i'm off to bed, night all :)20:53
yofelgn20:53
_StefanS_evening20:54
yofelpbuilder-satisfydepends-aptitude FTW :D20:54
yofelgood evening _StefanS_20:54
_StefanS_yofel: hows the kde 4.6.90 doing ? I saw you tested it to be working "more or less"20:54
yofelbeing uploaded to oneiric20:54
_StefanS_yofel: so last stuff it sorted?20:55
_StefanS_yofel: it/is20:55
yofelmostly, see the wiki link in the topic. Some stuff still needs fixing, but we're getting somewhere finally20:55
_StefanS_ah cool20:55
_StefanS_so I imagine natty pkgs will come afterwards20:56
_StefanS_uhm, is oneiric somewhat solid at the moment ?20:57
yofelwe'll fix 4.6.90, then do 4.6.95 which should be much less work and then backport that to natty (that's the plan at least)20:57
_StefanS_ah nice :)20:57
yofelnope, oneiric is currently totally broken from a KDE POV20:57
_StefanS_uhm ok, I will hold off a bit20:57
yofelnot all packages are up yet20:57
yofel_StefanS_: see topic of #ubuntu+1, we'll remove the note when we're done20:58
_StefanS_yofel: ah thanks20:58
_StefanS_yofel: its a lot of work I know, how are resources currently on kubuntu, got enough people ?20:59
_StefanS_yofel: well, sufficient resources I mean, you can always use more :)21:00
yofeluh, there's enough work for everybody if you want to help ;)21:01
yofelall in all we're managing, even with jr being absent21:01
yofel_StefanS_: that it took us till now to get 4.7 done is a good indication that we can always use some more packagers btw. ;)21:02
yofelk, now let's see how long that armel build is going to take ^^21:03
_StefanS_yofel: are you building locally ?21:04
yofelyep21:04
_StefanS_yofel: ok, I've got a quad in spare if you need something speedy21:05
_StefanS_yofel: its on a 20mbit line, so it should work ok21:05
yofelheh, I've got enough CPU power, but this ARM qemu VM can't emulate more than one CPU :/21:07
yofelso building marble will take a while21:08
_StefanS_ah I see, damn..21:08
* yofel is off to bed, good night21:49
yofelmarble at 40% btw. ^^21:50
Quintasanyofel: Good night21:51
debfxQuintasan: just fyi, you've dropped libx11-dev from libqt4-dev's dependencies while merging from debian21:56
debfxbut I think we should just keep it that way and see how much breaks21:56
Quintasandebfx: I did? Meh.21:56
debfximho that dependency is wrong anyway22:03
* Quintasan hits the bed22:17
debfxapachelogger: lintian complains about: W: mobipocket: desktop-command-not-in-package usr/share/applications/kde4/okularApplication_mobi.desktop okular22:26
debfxeither we need to make it depend on okular or split it into multiple binary packages22:26
valoriedamn, I think I broke the wiki23:08
debfxScottK: could you sponsor http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/cmake_2.8.5-1ubuntu1.debdiff (debdiff to cmake in Debian unstable)23:15
ScottKdebfx: Yes.23:20
ScottKapachelogger: I did kde-wallpapers this morning.  I'll look at the rest of it now.23:23
ScottKdebfx: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.23:37
ScottKapachelogger: khangman debian/copyright is incomplete (files in the fonts dir aren't mentioned).  Not a reject since the license is in debian/copyright for other reasons.23:49

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