[00:17] <rbelem> ScottK, do i have permission to sponsor?
[00:18] <ScottK> No.  You need to be either in kubuntu-dev or Ubuntu core-dev.
[00:19] <rbelem> oki :-)
[00:56] <EagleScreen> what happens with oneiric alpha2 images? they aren't in cdimage.ubuntu.com
[00:57] <EagleScreen> daily-live neither since 5, july
[00:58] <ScottK> Kubuntu skipped Alpha 2.
[00:59] <ScottK> We're currently in the middle of switching to KDE 4.7 and so things are a bit broken (see apachelogger's mail to kubuntu-devel a few days ago)
[00:59] <EagleScreen> okay
[03:02] <ScottK> NCommander: No one bit on the compiler bug in #linaro, so I guess we can discuss on Monday.
[07:37] <bambee> morning
[07:44] <valorie> so stuff is still somewhat broken, and I should hold off on updates still?
[07:45] <valorie> btw: http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2011/07/teamwork.html
[07:45] <valorie> kudos and mucho thanks to all of you
[08:16] <apachelogger> ScottK: re blinken, yes, that is how awesome things could be ^^
[08:20] <apachelogger> interestingly enough in 24h all my packages did not get reviewed :S
[08:30] <valorie> you weren't cracking the whip!\
[09:24] <CIA-52> [kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110710092345-yr9au8kdr757y1nh * debian/ (copyrightgen.rb copyright) Fix copyright and add a script that spits out dep5 for wallpapers ^^
[09:26] <CIA-52> [kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110710092626-ab77bigcxskpp6qw * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[09:29] <apachelogger> bambee: is libkexiv2 fixed now?
[09:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kate and libkipi fixeD?
[09:30] <bambee> apachelogger: it is
[09:31] <apachelogger> bambee: I still don't see an update to the symbols files though?
[09:32] <bambee> arfff you're talking about the branch :\
[09:32] <apachelogger> yes
[09:32] <bambee> I've to merge it (I totally forgot that)
[09:32] <bambee> o_O
[09:32] <apachelogger> ^^
[09:32]  * apachelogger uploads kgamma meanwhile
[09:33] <bambee> I've a family dinner now, but don't worry I will merge it this evening !!
[09:33] <apachelogger> kk, enjoy lunch
[09:33] <bambee> (however it's uploaded into the ppa since few days)
[09:36] <CIA-52> [kgamma] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110710093601-89fthrr6woj0h7sx * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[09:37] <yofel> morning
[09:37] <apachelogger> you know, I should just let stuff sit in bzr until someone other than me moves their arse
[09:37] <yofel> you could upload new meta-kde from bzr
[09:38] <yofel> or marble
[09:38] <apachelogger> nah
[09:38] <apachelogger> seems all the stuff I need for mobile is in oneiric
[09:39] <yofel> . . .
[09:39] <yofel> someone promote me to kubuntu-dev and motu so we can deprecate apachelogger...
[09:39] <apachelogger> shit is not getting uploaded or reviewed without me
[09:40] <apachelogger> that is not how this is supposed to work
[09:40] <apachelogger> terrible wrongness
[09:48] <apachelogger> yofel: debian/.rules.kate-swp
[09:48] <yofel> huh?
[09:48] <apachelogger> in meta-kde
[09:48] <apachelogger> yofel: vcs field would be good to have if it is in bzr
[09:48] <yofel> true
[09:49] <yofel> that kate-swp file seems to be there since a long time ago o.O (in the package at least)
[09:49] <yofel> removed
[09:51] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (.rules.kate-swp control) Add Vcs fields for bzr and remove editor swp file
[10:02] <debfx> yofel: so when are you going to apply for kubuntu-dev?
[10:03] <yofel> good question... you think I should?
[10:04] <debfx> definitely
[10:04]  * yofel will look at the procedure later then
[10:06] <apachelogger> Quintasan_: you did not push kdemm
[10:06] <debfx> great :)
[10:07] <debfx> basically you have to prepare a wiki page and write a mail to kubuntu-devel to organize a kubuntu-dev meeting
[11:15] <apachelogger> Nightrose: does you haz time to prescreen blog post?
[11:16] <Nightrose> apachelogger: yes
[11:19] <apachelogger> Nightrose: mail sent
[11:20] <Nightrose> k
[11:34] <apachelogger> Nightrose: thx :*
[11:35] <apachelogger> Nightrose: should the gsoc stauts report page on the community wiki implement alphabetical order?
[11:36] <Nightrose> apachelogger: yw - and so far everyone just added their name at the bottom - i think that's ok
[11:36] <apachelogger> kk
[13:17] <Quintasan_> ...
[13:17] <Quintasan_> apachelogger: I'm busy trying to install Windows now
[13:17] <yofel> ...
[13:17] <Quintasan_> This little bastard won't install for some retarded reason
[13:17] <yofel> which ancient release are you trying to install?
[13:18] <Quintasan_> 7
[13:18] <Quintasan_> Setup was unable to create or find a system partition
[13:18] <yofel> LOL, and I thought only ubuntu was able to do that ^^
[13:18] <Quintasan_> On a !#%@ NTFS partition formatted within installer
[13:18] <Quintasan> I was wondering if it can get more retarded than this
[13:21] <CIA-52> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 109 * bin/kopypackages dump -r option and make both source and target release required. Also add -q and -c <credfile> options to make the script scriptable
[15:00] <ximion> hi!
[15:00] <ximion> does anyone know something about the state of Kate in Oneiric?
[15:00] <ximion> currently, kate is broken because of packaging issues
[15:00] <ximion> (see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277420 )
[15:01] <ximion> I added some more info to this bug report, since this is a Kubuntu issue and not KDE's fault
[15:04] <ScottK> I'll be gone most of today, but will be able to do New tonight.
[15:04] <ScottK> ximion: No surprising since we still have kate from KDE 4.6 and libs from 4.7.
[15:05] <ScottK> Please just close the bug and file a new one if there's still a problem after it's updated.
[15:05] <ximion> ScottK, exactly - that's why I was not sure if filing a bug makes sense if there will be a new kate package soon
[15:05] <ximion> (kate has been split out of kdesdk...)
[15:06] <ScottK> Filing a bug is pointless.
[15:07] <ximion> there shouldn't be any problem with an updated kate
[15:07] <ximion> because kate is maybe the most important tool on my desktop, I compiled it from source and it works very well
[15:09] <ximion> (the current KDE upgrade paths seem to be broken at time in Oneiric - last updated tried to remove kwin)
[15:09] <yofel> ximion: there is no problem with kate 4.7 here, so once the package is updated it will work fine
[15:09] <jjesse> ximion what do you mean aobut current kde upgrade?  i did a dist-upgrade on friday w/o problems from natty -> oneric
[15:10] <yofel> jjesse: we started putting 4.7 packages in O the last 2 days
[15:10] <yofel> so you upgraded just before that ^^
[15:10] <jjesse> oh ok
[15:10] <jjesse> just in time :)
[15:10] <ximion> jjesse, kate 4.7 work great here too :)
[15:11] <ScottK> apachelogger: kiten is a reject due to data/edict_kanjidic_licence.html not in debian/copyright.
[15:11] <jjesse> yeah i haven't updated since i did-upstrade
[15:11] <ximion> but the side-effects of the KDE 4.6/4.7 mix here are sometimes very weird...
[15:17] <HorusHorrendus> when you finished packaging kde 4.7 rc 1 ... will it be easier for you to package rc2/release or will it be that much work always from now onwards?
[15:29] <Quintasan> HorusHorrendus: It will be easier
[15:36] <HorusHorrendus> great news ;)
[16:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 219 * debian/ (changelog control) Bump various breaks/replaces to catch the package version from the
[17:08] <CIA-52> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 110 * bin/kopypackages put -h into the synopsis
[17:38] <bambee> Can someone merge this branch ? https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2/+merge/67461
[17:40] <yofel> looking
[17:44] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/ (libkexiv2-10.install libkexiv2-10.symbols) Merge branch lp:~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2
[17:55] <apachelogger> ScottK: poor thing
[17:56] <apachelogger> yofel: luv the copy script
[17:56] <apachelogger> suppose we should make a release soonish
[17:56] <apachelogger> ScottK: did the other plunder get in?
[17:57] <yofel> :D
[18:05] <bambee> yofel: thanks
[18:06]  * apachelogger fixes the kitten
[18:06] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4
[18:06] <apachelogger> -t
[18:06] <apachelogger> :P
[18:14]  * yofel goes writing his kubuntu-dev wiki page
[18:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: this kiten business is actually way confusing
[18:21] <apachelogger> install( FILES data/edict data/kanjidic data/radkfile data/vconj data/romkana.cnv DESTINATION ${DATA_INSTALL_DIR}/kiten)
[18:21] <apachelogger> ./control:Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, edict, kanjidic
[18:21] <apachelogger> that aint not making no sense IMHO
[18:42] <yofel> apachelogger: you've seen my work here a lot, do you think I should apply for kubuntu-dev? (i.e. would I get a +1 from you?)
[18:54] <CIA-52> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 111 * bin/kopypackages python3 doesn't support octal file modes
[19:01] <apachelogger> yofel: do you have a wiki page yet
[19:02] <yofel> writing one
[19:02] <yofel> trying to remember what I did here other than KDE and neon packaging
[19:04] <shadeslayer> \o
[19:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: on the kate issues now
[19:05]  * shadeslayer wonders what was wrong with kipi
[19:06] <shadeslayer> ah, hmm
[19:07] <yofel> apachelogger: here's what I have so far https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PhilipMuskovac/KubuntuDevApplication
[19:08] <shadeslayer> oh, yofel apply for kubuntu-dev ?
[19:08] <yofel> well, thinking loudly about it ^^
[19:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: see wiki for libkipi
[19:09] <shadeslayer> yofel: best of luck :D
[19:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw me and yofel have a bit of a issue with qemu + oneiric + ARM kernel
[19:12] <shadeslayer> if you have some free time, could you help us?
[19:12] <yofel> well, works fine with natty kernel, but someone should update that wiki for oneiric
[19:16] <apachelogger> I do not compute right now
[19:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what be you talking about?
[19:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well, we were able to produce a qemu natty ARM image
[19:17] <shadeslayer> which we upgraded to oneiric
[19:18] <shadeslayer> but due to changes in the kernels in oneric, we can't get a proper oneiric vmlinuz to boot with qemu
[19:18] <apachelogger> yofel: IMHO it makes sense to list interesting/complicate/funky stuff you have done, having done a bazillion packages alone does not qualify for developer status ^^
[19:18] <yofel> true
[19:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what is a qemu arm image?
[19:18] <shadeslayer> kernel panics because it can't find proper partitions
[19:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the one you produce using rootstock
[19:19] <apachelogger> aha
[19:19] <apachelogger> so why not create an oneiric image?
[19:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: permission errors
[19:19] <shadeslayer> i'm assuming its the same issue plaguing the pbuilders
[19:19] <yofel> should be, it's the same package that fails to install
[19:20] <apachelogger> well then
[19:20] <apachelogger> wait for a fix :P
[19:20] <apachelogger> or prod someone into fixing it faster
[19:23] <shadeslayer> i think they already are on the issue, so we'll just wait for a fix
[19:25] <shadeslayer> now to figure out kate
[19:35] <apachelogger> I should be leaving
[19:35] <apachelogger> too much rain
[19:35]  * apachelogger is scared
[19:36] <yofel> where to?
[19:39] <shadeslayer> ok, need your opinion on usr/lib/libkatepartinterfaces.so.4.7.0 , should i provide symbols for this even tho we have been shipping this lib in kate?
[19:46] <yofel> well, it was a package of it's own since it was in kdelibs before, kate seems to be the only rdepend though
[19:47] <shadeslayer> uh, no, that lib was shipped in kate
[19:47] <shadeslayer> kate: /usr/lib/libkateinterfaces.so.4.6.0
[19:47] <shadeslayer> oh fooey
[19:47] <yofel> !info libkatepartinterfaces4
[19:48] <yofel> and *that's* a different lib ^^
[19:48] <shadeslayer> yeah, typo
[19:48] <shadeslayer> i was looking at the other libs meanwhile
[19:49] <shadeslayer> what i want to know is should i provide symbols for /libkateinterfaces.so.4.6.0
[19:49] <shadeslayer> the previous lib already has symbols in the new packaging
[19:53] <yofel> I would say yes since it's in /usr/lib, not in /usr/lib/kde4 and has a proper SO version. But kate is probably the only app that actually uses that library
[19:54] <yofel> well, and kwrite - which is in the same package too
[19:56] <shadeslayer> yofel: kwrite is in its own package
[20:05] <Quintasan> yofel: Go for it. I don't see why you can't be kubuntu-dev
[20:19] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 16 * debian/libkatepartinterfaces4.symbols Add symbols for libkatepartinterfaces4
[20:19] <shadeslayer> ^^ upload ready
[20:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: how difficult are the bindings?
[20:25] <yofel> which ones?
[20:25] <shadeslayer> the ones you packaged
[20:25] <yofel> smoke? someone added license copies to git master, but there's still no copyright information in the files
[20:26] <shadeslayer> no, i mean the packaging itself, apart from the license stuff
[20:26] <shadeslayer> i'm thinking of taking up kimono
[20:27] <shadeslayer> surprise surprise, no licensing info
[20:27] <yofel> well, I took most from debian, perl is easy, but I think Quintasan can tall you stories about mono
[20:27] <yofel> *tell
[20:28] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: BROTIP: use dh --with cli
[20:28] <Quintasan> That's all I can tell you from that mess
[20:28] <Quintasan> or wait
[20:28] <Quintasan> kimono, I think that should be --with kde
[20:28] <shadeslayer> wtf is cli ? 0.o
[20:29] <Quintasan> Didn't look at the mk
[20:29] <Quintasan> It works (TM)
[20:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i mean, what does it do
[20:30] <Quintasan> Builds mono magic
[20:31] <yofel> although, I would rather do kimono rc2 if I were you
[20:32] <shadeslayer> oh, why so?
[20:32] <yofel> less work? ^^
[20:32] <shadeslayer> ah :P
[20:32] <shadeslayer> i'll fix the licenses at least 
[20:32] <yofel> then again, needs sc-dev-latest bump :/
[20:32] <yofel> I'll look at kdelibs as soon as we have most things figured out
[20:33]  * yofel checks what needs fixing
[20:33] <yofel> Quintasan: can you review marble? I would like to have that off the list ^^
[20:33] <Quintasan> Right now?
[20:34] <shadeslayer> kate as well if you can manage it
[20:34] <yofel> nah, can be tomorrow, but soon
[20:34] <yofel> it blocks kdeplasma-addons after all
[20:35] <Quintasan> okay
[20:37] <shadeslayer> ah well then, i'll do kdevelop
[20:38] <yofel> hm
[20:38]  * yofel tries to build marble on armel
[20:38] <yofel> should be done when I wake up tomorrow I guess
[20:38] <shadeslayer> hahah :D
[20:38] <yofel> hey, the VM is SLOW, even on my 2GHz core2
[20:39] <shadeslayer> yeah i know :P
[20:48] <shadeslayer> wtf
[20:48] <shadeslayer> how did this happen http://paste.kde.org/94177
[20:49] <yofel> o.O
[20:49] <shadeslayer> thats after the 4.6.5 upgrades, i noticed nvidia-current was gone
[20:50] <yofel> did not happen on my desktop
[20:51] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/control fix kde-sc-dev-latest build-dep
[20:51] <shadeslayer> yofel: do you have xorg-edgers enabled?
[20:51] <yofel> no
[20:52] <shadeslayer> hmm, i have that enabled, maybe thats why
[20:53] <shadeslayer> anyways, i'm off to bed, night all :)
[20:53] <yofel> gn
[20:54] <_StefanS_> evening
[20:54] <yofel> pbuilder-satisfydepends-aptitude FTW :D
[20:54] <yofel> good evening _StefanS_
[20:54] <_StefanS_> yofel: hows the kde 4.6.90 doing ? I saw you tested it to be working "more or less"
[20:54] <yofel> being uploaded to oneiric
[20:55] <_StefanS_> yofel: so last stuff it sorted?
[20:55] <_StefanS_> yofel: it/is
[20:55] <yofel> mostly, see the wiki link in the topic. Some stuff still needs fixing, but we're getting somewhere finally
[20:55] <_StefanS_> ah cool
[20:56] <_StefanS_> so I imagine natty pkgs will come afterwards
[20:57] <_StefanS_> uhm, is oneiric somewhat solid at the moment ?
[20:57] <yofel> we'll fix 4.6.90, then do 4.6.95 which should be much less work and then backport that to natty (that's the plan at least)
[20:57] <_StefanS_> ah nice :)
[20:57] <yofel> nope, oneiric is currently totally broken from a KDE POV
[20:57] <_StefanS_> uhm ok, I will hold off a bit
[20:57] <yofel> not all packages are up yet
[20:58] <yofel> _StefanS_: see topic of #ubuntu+1, we'll remove the note when we're done
[20:58] <_StefanS_> yofel: ah thanks
[20:59] <_StefanS_> yofel: its a lot of work I know, how are resources currently on kubuntu, got enough people ?
[21:00] <_StefanS_> yofel: well, sufficient resources I mean, you can always use more :)
[21:01] <yofel> uh, there's enough work for everybody if you want to help ;)
[21:01] <yofel> all in all we're managing, even with jr being absent
[21:02] <yofel> _StefanS_: that it took us till now to get 4.7 done is a good indication that we can always use some more packagers btw. ;)
[21:03] <yofel> k, now let's see how long that armel build is going to take ^^
[21:04] <_StefanS_> yofel: are you building locally ?
[21:04] <yofel> yep
[21:05] <_StefanS_> yofel: ok, I've got a quad in spare if you need something speedy
[21:05] <_StefanS_> yofel: its on a 20mbit line, so it should work ok
[21:07] <yofel> heh, I've got enough CPU power, but this ARM qemu VM can't emulate more than one CPU :/
[21:08] <yofel> so building marble will take a while
[21:08] <_StefanS_> ah I see, damn..
[21:49]  * yofel is off to bed, good night
[21:50] <yofel> marble at 40% btw. ^^
[21:51] <Quintasan> yofel: Good night
[21:56] <debfx> Quintasan: just fyi, you've dropped libx11-dev from libqt4-dev's dependencies while merging from debian
[21:56] <debfx> but I think we should just keep it that way and see how much breaks
[21:56] <Quintasan> debfx: I did? Meh.
[22:03] <debfx> imho that dependency is wrong anyway
[22:17]  * Quintasan hits the bed
[22:26] <debfx> apachelogger: lintian complains about: W: mobipocket: desktop-command-not-in-package usr/share/applications/kde4/okularApplication_mobi.desktop okular
[22:26] <debfx> either we need to make it depend on okular or split it into multiple binary packages
[23:08] <valorie> damn, I think I broke the wiki
[23:15] <debfx> ScottK: could you sponsor http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/cmake_2.8.5-1ubuntu1.debdiff (debdiff to cmake in Debian unstable)
[23:20] <ScottK> debfx: Yes.
[23:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: I did kde-wallpapers this morning.  I'll look at the rest of it now.
[23:37] <ScottK> debfx: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.
[23:49] <ScottK> apachelogger: khangman debian/copyright is incomplete (files in the fonts dir aren't mentioned).  Not a reject since the license is in debian/copyright for other reasons.