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sgroverhelp?  Moved my drive from an old box to a new desktop.  Boots up rus fine.  Except screen resolution.  Stuck at 1280x1024 on a 24" monitor that supports 1920x1080.00:20
miglowhat is the best procedure to upgrade from Karmic Koala to the latest version of Kubuntu?00:21
sgroverold system had nvidia.  new system is integrated intel video.  Connecting via SVGA and a DVI adapater (no SVGA on desktop, and no DVI cable at the moment)00:21
migloshall I download the latest image and make a new installation?00:22
sgrovermiglo: you can upgrade in place00:23
sgroverNot sure if Karmic had the nice graphical prompts sorted out yet or not.  But you can drop to command line and do a dist-upgrade.00:23
sgrover(i'm looking for the command for you...)00:24
Unit193miglo: You're on 9.10, you would have to 9.10 > 10.04 > 10.10 > 11.04 or you could use a cd and upgrade00:24
Unit193dist-upgrade isn't it00:24
khindenburgAfter my upgrade to KDE 4.6.5, konsole won't start - stays it is built w/ wrong Qt version00:25
miglodoing multiple upgrade steps would take longer than a complete installation, maybe00:25
miglowhat is the best or fastest solution in my case?00:26
bazhangmiglo, fastest is make back ups and fresh install.00:27
bazhangmiglo, do you have a separate /home?00:27
miglobazhang: yes, I have00:28
bazhangmiglo, then set the installer to leave /home alone and fresh install00:29
almigi2khindenburg: how long ago did you do the upgrade?  if you update apt, does it show any thing else that needs to be updated?00:30
miglobazhang: I have another partition with some data on it. should also be no problem, I guess. Is ext4 still a good choice?00:30
khindenburgalmigi2: I did the full update a few hours ago; I just checked again and nothing to upgrade00:31
bazhangmiglo, yes ext4 is a very good choice00:31
almigi2khindenburg: odd my best guess would be that you did an upgrade before all the files were ready....00:31
khindenburgCannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x104070200:32
miglook, will download kubuntu now - thanks for help00:33
bazhangnp00:33
almigi2hmmm... I dunno. I've only been using kubuntu for a an hour or so... as soon as I installed it, I did the update and it worked.... sorry I don't know what else it could be00:33
mranimaanyone experiencing sudden freezes? when using chromium or any other browsers?00:35
yofelkhindenburg: while I'm starting my natty VM, what's the version of libqtcore4 for example?00:37
migloselected the 64bit version of kubuntu00:37
jordan_hey does anyone know how to put ringtones on a iphone 4?00:39
vietredhi, I'm using Kubuntu natty, when I press Ctrl + Alt + F1-6, I can only see a "_". Can anyone help me?00:41
OerHeksvietred, wait 2-3 sec after pressing ctrl alt F200:42
OerHeksand F7 for returning to this gui00:42
miglovietred, is there no prompt?00:43
yofelthere can be no prompt if the system is stuck on boot and he's trying to switch to the tty's in that condition00:43
yofelsoo... why are you trying to get to them?00:43
vietredwell, I wait about 10 secs but nothing happen00:45
vietredyofel: my system is OK, I just want to learn about tty :D00:46
yofelhm, then the login prompts *should* be there :/00:46
vietredwhat files should I check to see if tty is disable?00:48
yofelshouldn't be disabled unless you messed with runlevels00:50
yofeltry 'sudo service tty2 start' and see if F2 has a login prompt now00:50
yofel/var/log/syslog *might* have something00:50
vietredyofel: this is what I got: Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing.00:51
yofelI'm clueless then :/00:52
miglohm, shouldn't there be a process like getty if a tty is available?00:53
yofelthere should, 6 of them00:54
migloso vietred could check the process table00:54
vietredyofel: me too :(, I haven't experience anything like this before00:54
yofelcheck for the getty processes as miglo said00:54
vietreduse top?00:55
yofeltop or ps00:55
yofelps -e00:55
vietredgetty is not in process table00:56
vietredso I have to start getty?00:58
yofelhm, when I restart tty2 here I don't get a warning, but I don't know why it would complain about a fake initctl o.O00:59
yofelunless  you messed with init?01:00
vietredI did a fresh install of kubuntu a month ago, and I haven't mess with it (yet)01:01
yofelok01:01
yofelvietred: what does this give you? dpkg -S $(which initctl)01:06
vietredupstart: /sbin/initctl01:07
yofelvietred: and 'ls -l /sbin/initctl' ?01:09
vietred-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84 2011-06-16 11:57 /sbin/initctl01:10
yofelok, that's far too small, what's in there?01:11
yofelor got a /sbin/initctl.real or so ?01:11
khindenburgyofel: 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6.101:12
vietrederr, I only got 1 line01:13
yofelthat is?01:13
vietred-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84 2011-06-16 11:57 /sbin/initctl01:14
yofelvietred: no, can you open that file in an editor and check what's in it?01:14
yofelI would expect it's a script of some sort01:14
vietredok01:14
vietred#!/bin/sh01:15
vietredecho 1>&201:15
vietredecho 'Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing.' 1>&201:15
vietredexit 001:15
FloodBotK1vietred: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:15
yofelwhere did that come from o.O01:15
yofelvietred: sudo apt-get install --reinstall upstart01:16
vietredlooks like that script does only 1 thing :-S01:16
vietredyofel: don't ask me, I'm what-the-helling myself :))01:17
vietredinstall done01:17
yofelkhindenburg: same here, but konsole works fine (konsole 2.6.4 from 4.6.5), I'm tired so can't help you more, but feel free to file a bug for now https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+filebug01:18
yofelvietred: try to restart tty2 again01:18
khindenburgyofel: ok, np - a reinstall didn't work01:18
yofelkhindenburg: just asking, but you don't have any LD_LIBRARY_PATH or so set?01:19
vietredyofel: tty2 start/running, process 213701:20
vietredCan I press ctrl + alt + F2 now?01:20
yofelyep, should work now01:20
vietredyes, it works :D01:21
vietredthank you :D01:21
yofelhomework: find out how you managed to mess up init :P01:21
yofelalthough that script is usually something used to disable services in a chroot01:21
vietredhaha01:22
* yofel is off to bed, good night01:26
vietredgood night yofel (it's morning here)01:29
sri13Hi all01:45
sri13How can I update to latest kde version in kubuntu ?01:45
lcbsri13: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (if not upgradeable that's because is not supported yet)01:57
sri13lcb: Thanks :)01:59
lcb;)01:59
jordan_hey does anyone know how to put ringtones on a iphone 4?02:07
jordan_maybe someone can answer another question i have. I have a program that does have a icon "doesnt have one low development" how do i add one?02:17
jordan_doesnt*02:17
jordan_im talking about adding a menu icon the top left one on the title bar02:18
atomicfusionhow can i disable screen locking on hibernate, but not on sleep?04:34
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LINKSWORD2Hey guys, anybody know a Freenode channel to talk about cars & car problems? lol04:52
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LINKSWORD2Ok, guess not.... Another problem: My volume controls aren't working, and my volume mixer icon is missing....04:56
bdhadding a bg05:01
bdhlinksword try adding pavucontrol it worked for me05:02
atomicfusionwhat is run when "sleep" or "hibernate" is pressed in the menu?05:09
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uofm49426question is kubuntu 11.04 having the same problem off stalling that xubuntu and ubuntu is having05:51
uofm49426both xubuntu and ubuntu 11.04 stalls after sometime in screensavers they tell everyone just go to a blank screan but thats not a fix05:54
preecheruofm49426 had the same probs with xubu---but ive had no probs with anythin on kubuntu & on my end it runs faster than ubu unity---so im hooked on the blue05:58
uofm49426i can use kde use to mintkde06:00
uofm49426when i leave for 15 minute and return to a stalled computer well that sucked lol06:02
uofm49426had the problem on a x41 thinkpad with a intel 91506:03
uofm49426was just thinking its a intel problem06:03
uofm49426then my computer with nv 330 gt amd x2 be-2400 and 2 gb of ram06:04
uofm49426i was like ok its a big problem  and not just the one computer06:05
preecherone way i kept it from freezing on my end was only using the ant with a spotlight screensaver and setting it not to change savers or random06:05
preecherbut again that wasnt a fix06:06
uofm49426no problem with 10:10 work perfect if i get the same with kde im just staying at 10.10 till the next build06:08
preecherwell im on kubuntu 11.04 & have it on 2 thinkpads & a acer netbook and have had zero problems06:09
uofm49426i dont like the new gnome 3 look anyways06:09
uofm49426i know you can go to a classic look06:10
uofm49426but i cant use the cloudos looking gnome06:11
preecheri used gnome- initially i didnt like unity but was warming to it- tried kubuntu & the noticed increase in speed & just plain out good looks swayed me06:12
preecheri dont know how the devs did it--i always heard kde was a resource hog but in all my instances ive seen the opposite at least compared to the few distros ive used06:14
uofm49426fedora is alright to but they lack software in repos06:15
uofm49426how does buntu protect the users password since its also the root password06:17
uofm49426and a user pass is so much easier to hack06:18
atomicfusionuofm49426: root doesnt usually have a password, thats what sudo is for06:19
uofm49426my brother wants to know hes a debian writer06:19
uofm49426he was telling me how easy it is to get a sudo password06:20
atomicfusionas far as i know, the only ways to get a "sudo" password would eb keylogging it, or replacing sudo with another program06:21
tsimpsonuofm49426: a user password is no easier to get than a root password06:23
tsimpsonit's actually harder, as you _need_ to know the user name to "crack" the password, and when the only well-known one (root) is disabled, your chances are reduced greatly06:24
LINKSWORD2Hey all.06:50
LINKSWORD2Can I get Kubuntu, KDE or Knotify to tell mw if Caps Lock, Scroll Lock or Num Lock are on???06:53
LINKSWORD2!num lock06:57
LINKSWORD2!ubottu: numlock06:57
LINKSWORD2... Also not working.06:57
LINKSWORD2Oy! Is nobody at all here awake???07:00
atomicfusionim here, i just cant really help you, sorry07:01
LINKSWORD2Know anybody that can? lol07:06
tsimpsonLINKSWORD2: plasma-widget-kbstate07:07
tsimpson!info plasma-widget-kbstate07:07
ubottuplasma-widget-kbstate (source: plasma-widget-kbstate): A plasma widget that shows the state of the modifier keys. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0~svn906377-0ubuntu7 (natty), package size 40 kB, installed size 608 kB07:07
LINKSWORD2tsimpson: Is it part of Kubuntu by default, or do I need to install it?07:08
tsimpsonit's in universe, so not installed by default07:09
LINKSWORD2Mkay...07:11
LINKSWORD2So I need to install it. How?07:11
LINKSWORD2sudo apt-get install .... ???07:11
tsimpsonor with the package manager, yes07:11
TanteIngeHi Ich search MP3Players for Shoutcast Streaming (IDJC)?07:11
LINKSWORD2Does it pop up a message on Knotify?07:12
tsimpsonLINKSWORD2: it's a plasma widget, so put in on the panel07:12
LINKSWORD2On the main toolbar? :/07:12
tsimpsonwhere ever you want it07:13
tsimpsonit's a widget, it can be on the panel or on the desktop, whatever you want07:13
LINKSWORD2I'm something of a minimalist. I don't like icons on the desktop...07:13
LINKSWORD2tsimpson: Do you know of anything else that can notify me, without having to add it to a toolbar?07:16
tsimpsonLINKSWORD2: System Settings -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys07:18
chaituGreetings All. Am kinda new to linux and kubuntu and wondering, am I the only one who has these awkward fonts on browsers?07:23
chaituor is this the way linux is designed...if yes,we have some work to do :)07:23
LINKSWORD2lol07:24
LINKSWORD2Take a screencap.07:24
LINKSWORD2!pastebin07:24
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:24
LINKSWORD2!screenshots07:24
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.07:24
chaituoh cool. Thanks..give me a minute please07:24
LINKSWORD2I'll do what I can to help.07:24
LINKSWORD2tsimpson: Neither the widget nor the control panel settings are creating a notification... And I have toggled the Caps Lock and Num Lock to test it.07:25
nirhello everyone07:26
tsimpsonLINKSWORD2: I tested, works fine. did you edit the notifications?07:26
nirguys how playes assault cube/??07:27
chaituhere it goes : http://imagebin.org/16240307:28
LINKSWORD2tsimpson: I'm not sure what's going on....07:28
LINKSWORD2If you need to, I can open the remote desktop tie-in...07:28
chaituLINKSWORD2:Do you think you can help me?07:31
tsimpsonLINKSWORD2: System Settings -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys, check the "Use KDE's system notification mechanism whenever a modifier or locking key changes its state" option, click the "Configure Notifications..." button, check the "Show a message in a popup" for "A lock key has been deactivated" and "A lock key has been activated"07:31
LINKSWORD2Just a quick moment, chaitu.07:31
chaitucool thanks.07:31
LINKSWORD2Thanks, tsimpson. Looks like it works now.07:33
LINKSWORD2All right, chaitu. I'm taking a look at your screenshot now.07:33
chaituk07:34
chaituI told you guys my fonts are scary07:35
chaituscared you LINKSWORD2? ;)07:36
LINKSWORD2That's bizarre... I keep getting disconnected... Randomly...07:36
LINKSWORD2lol @ chaitu07:36
LINKSWORD2I was about to say that everything looks normal from my end, as I look at your screenshot.07:36
LINKSWORD2O_o Whoa...07:36
LINKSWORD2It appears you have some sort of Arabic or variant language font...07:37
chaitulet me give you its name07:37
LINKSWORD2I assume you are an English user...07:37
chaituYes07:38
LINKSWORD2Ok.07:38
LINKSWORD2Does it appear on other windows, outside of your internet browsers?07:39
chaituhttp://imagebin.org/16240507:39
chaituyes all browsers look the same.07:39
LINKSWORD2OK.07:40
LINKSWORD2You said you're new to Kubuntu.07:40
LINKSWORD2Have you checked the language settings?07:41
chaituyou mean in chrome? or in kubuntu?07:41
LINKSWORD2Alt + F1 opens the Launch menu in Kubuntu.07:42
LINKSWORD2From there, look for a crossed hammer and wrench.... That will be your System Settings.07:42
LINKSWORD2In there, a blue flag will be labeled Locale.07:43
LINKSWORD2Hopefully, your problem will be in there, and easily changed...07:43
chaituwell it has India in there. However all other settings are looking just fine07:43
chaituI read this has something to do with xfonts or something07:44
LINKSWORD2Go ahead and change it. I assume you're in the continental USA?07:44
LINKSWORD2A lot of computer systems, not just Kubuntu can be picky, if not anal about which regional settings you choose.07:45
chaituNope. Am in India07:45
LINKSWORD2O_o?07:45
chaitu:)07:45
LINKSWORD2Heh...07:45
LINKSWORD2All right... :/07:45
LINKSWORD2Well, as I was saying, a lot of computer systems can be picky about which regional settings you choose.07:46
LINKSWORD2Try changing them to something you know you can understand. (Example being US English.)07:46
chaituumnn doing that07:47
LINKSWORD2I'm searching for other options, in case that doesn't solve the problem.07:48
chaituThanks a ton07:49
LINKSWORD2chaitu: For what I can see of your background image, it's really pretty. :)07:49
chaituhehe thanks..am still figuring out how to have this system setup..07:50
chaituwould you be kind enough to upload your browser fonts once? just wanna see if it looks like windows for you guys07:51
LINKSWORD2I only have the KDE defaults.07:51
LINKSWORD2*Kubuntu* defaults.07:51
LINKSWORD2Sorry, I get the Kubuntu OS and the KDE Plasma engine mixed up, a bit.07:52
chaituso it just shows up as normal site on windows for you? no difference in fonts at all?07:52
tsimpsonchaitu: you should probably start by changing your encoding to UTF-8, rather than ISO-8859-107:53
LINKSWORD2Aha... I didn't even think about character encoding. :/07:54
LINKSWORD2Hmm...07:55
chaituok cool.let me do that tsimpson . thanks07:55
chaituI have utf 16LE07:56
LINKSWORD2Do you not have UTF-8?>07:56
tsimpsonmost web servers don't like 16 or 3207:56
chaitubut i must say it did improve07:57
chaituumnn can I install utf 8?07:57
tsimpsonyou shouldn't have to no, it's the first option for me07:57
LINKSWORD2It is also the same for me.07:58
chaituoh well..am sorry. yes i have it in there07:59
LINKSWORD2Well, let's hit the UTF-8 and see if Google Chrome cooperates...08:00
chaituwhats the standard font you guys use? I have it as times new roman08:01
LINKSWORD2I do not think Times New Roman is available outside of Windows.08:01
LINKSWORD2It is a copyrighted font.08:01
chaituyou can install xfonts or something..08:02
chaituthat gives you that option..08:02
LINKSWORD2The equivalent font is Nimbus Roman No9.08:02
* tsimpson uses -> http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimpson/images/snapshot3.png08:03
LINKSWORD2Thankfully, where there is a will, there is a way....08:03
tsimpsonbut I often have my monitor quite far from my face, in a vain attempt to stop by eyes from getting worse08:03
LINKSWORD2Under the Bonnet? You're obviously set to British English. :D08:04
chaitudoes it come close to windows style browsing?08:04
LINKSWORD2I feel like I want to slap the next person that mentions Windows.08:05
tsimpsonI'm not sure what "windows style browsing" is really08:05
chaituI mean the clarity and rendering08:05
tsimpsonchrome basically looks/feels/acts the same on all platforms, as does firefox08:05
LINKSWORD2Microsoft panders its victims with unstable, DOS-based crap that blue-screens, locks up, and crashes a million times over...08:05
tsimpsonthat's probably it's major "selling point"08:06
* LINKSWORD2 agrees with tsimpson08:06
chaitutsimpson: I dont think it looks the same on linux and windows. I can clearly see the difference the way it shows up sites on windows and linux08:07
chaitufont is what am talking about.08:08
tsimpsonyou can change fonts, that's up to you08:08
LINKSWORD2*facepalm*08:08
chaituyes. but changing fonts wouldnt give you the same experience.08:08
LINKSWORD2You know WHY Microsoft crap is so expensive?08:08
tsimpsonalso, some websites are poorly written and only designed to work with IE, rather than using the multitude of web standards out there08:08
chaituam not rallying for windows here..just saying08:09
LINKSWORD2There's over 400 copyrights cited, just in the initial base code...08:09
chaituknow any site which is written for all platforms? would love to see08:09
tsimpsonLINKSWORD2: relax, it's not worth getting high blood-pressure over :)08:09
LINKSWORD2*Lights my old Windows 95 floppys on fire.*08:10
chaituLINKSWORD2: heh I realise that and am not saying anything for windows here..I just want the sites to look better on this OS :)08:10
tsimpsonchaitu: lots are, like google. but you have to decide which fonts you want (if you aren't happy with the default)08:10
chaituah..makes sense08:10
tsimpsoncustomize it to where _you_ are happy with the look08:10
LINKSWORD2chaitu: There are many similarities and many differences between each OS/ platform.08:11
tsimpsonthe good news is that many sites are getting better, as FF (and Chrome) become more adopted in windows they need to use real standards08:11
tsimpson... and various mobile platforms08:12
LINKSWORD2As you go along, I'm sure you'll find many of those similarities and differences.08:12
LINKSWORD2It's up to you to customize for the look, feel, and performance that you want.08:12
chaituI understand..08:13
LINKSWORD2For myself, for example.... I have a very resource-light computer system....08:13
LINKSWORD2One outdated enough that anything made after Windows 2000/ME is sluggish on it, at best...08:13
LINKSWORD2So... I scrapped Microsoft's crap-fest and put Kubuntu on it instead.08:14
LINKSWORD2.... And then I customized it, in many ways, to look like an Apple OSX platform.08:14
LINKSWORD2Hehe. :D That's one thing I love about Linux systems. HIGHLY customizable.08:15
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LINKSWORD2Well.... I'm signing off.08:21
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dahallahi guys, just a quick question i couldn't answer with google: can i use the ubuntu software center on kubuntu?09:16
tsimpsonyes09:17
dahallathanks :)09:17
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phoenixlzxhttp://phoenixlzx.wordpress.com/2011/07/10/71/11:56
lcbthat's really nasty12:00
ben__hi12:04
AlexZionhi guys ,yesterday I experimented a strange behaviorof my Kubuntu 11.04,  and trying again is the same , so probablly ia kind of bug i guess...., let me explain better12:27
Tm_Tphoenixlzx: please keep this channel for Kubuntu support, thanks12:29
AlexZionnormally when I login in my system, after everything is loaded, I connect my wireless which open up a kwalle windows, because the wireless password is indie a wallet ....., but if I do it too early it doesn't apper , and after that , the only way to connect the wireless is to restart the system and wait until everything is loaded , it si normal ... ? I mean , it happen just on my system ?, or is a common problem !?!12:30
phoenixlzxTm_T: Are you a human?or bot??12:30
Tm_Tphoenixlzx: a human12:30
Tm_TAlexZion: hmmm, I haven't encountered that, you mean that in some cases kwallet fails to appear, thus not providing the password?12:31
AlexZionyeah ..... Tm_T, and after that it doesn't appear anymore , since I restart the system ....12:32
Tm_TAlexZion: hmmm, what happens if you manually launch kwalletmanager?12:32
phoenixlzxTm_T: may be you are right because it is kubuntu support channel.but how can you bear the behavior like that?is that something a human should do??12:32
Tm_Tphoenixlzx: please, this channel is for Kubuntu support and only for that, you can continue the discussion with me in #kubuntu-offtopic for example12:33
phoenixlzxTm_T: ok,i will post the message in #kubuntu-offtopic.thanks for remind12:34
AlexZionTm_T:  how should I do it !?! I mean open kwallet related to the connection ...., or opening the wallet is just enough ?12:37
Tm_TAlexZion: press alt+F2 and enter "kwalletmanager" without quotes, a wallet icon should appear to your systray if it runs12:38
Tm_TAlexZion: this is only to determine if the wallet system launches at all after the failure (:12:38
AlexZionyes I know how to open it .... :), ok so I'll try ..., I'll be back in few minutes ..... ;)12:39
AlexZionmhhhh, really strange... Tm_T , now I tried to connect it immediatelly when the desktop apper and it worked ...., so I guess the problem is if I try to connect while some other application is launching ......, usually at startup I have skype, amarok, akregator, nothing else...., so probablly  something strange  happens  when one of these apps  is opening up and I try to connect ....12:46
AlexZion.....and the point is , no one os these apps has a password stored on the wallet ....12:47
AlexZionanyway...., is not a big problem if you know it, just a bit unconfortable .... ;)12:49
lcbAlexZion: disable it in settings.12:50
AlexZionlcb there is a way to take out just the wireless pasword from the wallet !?!12:50
AlexZionbecause kwallet is really usefull for me except for the wireless password .. .:D12:51
lcbAlexZion: under Waccess Control" i believe12:52
lcb"Access Control"12:52
AlexZionlcb: Access Control !?! what is that ?, I don't have something called Access Control for what I know ....12:53
lcbAlexZion: i had issues with it too so i decided to disable kwallet at all. i never  spent time to discover where the problems reside.12:54
lcbon the konsole type kwalletmanager | then click on the tab Access Control and expand kdewallet12:55
AlexZionyeah in the paste I did too, but rigth now I really need kwallet to store a lot of password like different ftp access, or some login and so on , so would be really nice to understand how to manage it ...12:55
lcbAlexZion: you might have in there one item for wireless12:57
AlexZionok but on the access control settings , there is not a voice saying network manager ....12:57
lcbAlexZion: nothing.. like something related to networking??12:58
lcbi can't tell you the correct one because mine is disabled as i said :(12:58
AlexZionno on the access control panel ...., I have something about it just on the wallet ...12:58
Peace-AlexZion: :)13:00
Peace-nice job on the channel AlexZion13:01
AlexZionanyway , I'll try to remove the wireless password , and after that try to avoid tha use oh kwallet from network manager , hopefully it will works ...., even if I never been lucjy with that ....., thanks...13:01
AlexZionhi Peace- what are you talking about !?!13:01
Peace-AlexZion: are you not italian?13:02
BluesKajHowdy13:02
Peace-BluesKaj: hey13:02
lcbAlexZion: i would remove all that wireless point. since you are having some issues with the passwds. then configure it again13:02
lcbAlexZion: restart networking after doing it, if you do13:02
Peace-AlexZion: oh you had the problem :D13:02
Peace-sorry13:02
Peace-:P13:02
BluesKajhi Peace-13:02
AlexZionyeah sure , I'm the on on the italian channel but..., what nice job are you talking about ?13:02
Peace-AlexZion: nothing sorry i have read bad i thougth you was supportin on the channel13:03
fayazhi, how do i properly backup my kwallet passwords?13:03
Peace-AlexZion: instead you had a problem xD and you have asked support13:03
AlexZionok Peace-, sometime I do when I can , but as you know I'm not so expert ... :D13:04
lcb:)13:05
lcblaunch time here. brb13:05
lcblunch either13:05
Peace-fayaz: i would save the hidden file13:05
fayazPeace-: filepath?13:06
Peace-fayaz: locate kwallet | grep $HOME/.kde/13:07
Peace-should be kwl13:07
Peace-i guess13:07
Peace-BluesKaj: temperature?13:08
Peace-BluesKaj: i am melting13:08
BluesKaj21C at 9:0813:08
fayazPeace-: thanks13:09
Peace-here i guess 30 shadow13:09
BluesKajgoing to 30 today ...warm for this area13:09
Peace-8000 under the sun13:09
BluesKajshade13:09
Peace-:) yea13:09
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31NAAPI8Mi wan't KDE 4.7rc ppa14:07
ikoniagreat, get it14:08
31NAAPI8Mis there kde4.7 rc ppa on launchpad14:10
yofelno14:10
BluesKajyeah , it'll break your system ..tried it yesterday ...ended up in an unresponsive prompt , with no X14:10
BluesKaj31NAAPI8M,^14:11
31NAAPI8M?14:12
BluesKaj31NAAPI8M, read what I posted above14:12
BluesKajkde 4.7 isn't ready14:13
31NAAPI8Mthnks14:13
31NAAPI8MBluseKaj : but my friend got 4.7 release candidate with  pacman in arch.14:18
lcbdo you guys know any data and software management suite for mobile devices? (meaning access to your device system and data and manipulating it)14:18
lcb31NAAPI8M: not supported14:18
lcb31NAAPI8M: not supported in a direct sense = by means of a normal installation and maintenance of the system you are running from the official and main source.14:20
BluesKaj31NAAPI8M, well, it migh work with his HW in arhHc, but this is kubuntu and your HW may be different , hence diffrent results14:21
31NAAPI8Mok, arch is rolling relase! and kubuntu is  not rolling relase! :)14:23
31NAAPI8Mrelease14:24
lcb31NAAPI8M: probably is rolling conscientiously on the backstage instead of on-the-fly patches/updates from "accessories"(in this case a graphical environment)14:26
BluesKaj31NAAPI8M, if you want to try it , then go ahead..my post is just a warning abot what happened to me !14:27
lcb31NAAPI8M: you don't see too many problems here it's a symptom that all updates/grades are well tested before going to the "wild"14:28
lcb*here. it's a symp..*14:28
khindenburgAfter upgrade 4.6.5, I can't start konsole - any ideas how to resolve? Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x1040702)14:42
lcb"Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x1040702)" that says it all. Cannot mix a current system with a non tested one.14:44
lcbi think someone should add to the topic about unsupported "additions" to kubuntu14:46
sorush20what program do I use to draw algorythms14:47
sorush20algorithems14:47
cdunlapHas anyone had any trouble upgrading to KDE4.6.5 from the kubuntu ppa?14:51
yofelkhindenburg: to continue from yesterday: are you on 32 or 64bit? LD_LIBRARY_PATH set in any way?14:55
slsimicWhat are the ways to set wireless connection in Kubuntu? I tried with Network Management plasmoid, but that way connection is made after I login into KDE. I tried wicd-kde also but wicd won't connect with my router with WPA2 encryption saying "Bad password".15:23
Graf_Westerholt!network | slsimic15:24
ubottuslsimic: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:24
slsimicIs there any other way to set and make wireless connection during startup?15:24
sorush20!koffice15:24
sorush20!koffice15:24
sorush20how do i install koffice?15:25
sorush20Its not there.15:25
sorush20its not in the repositories15:26
BluesKaj!libreoffice15:26
sorush20http://www.kde.org/applications/office/15:26
BluesKaj!info | libreoffice15:27
ubottu'libreoffice' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable15:27
BluesKajreally?15:27
BluesKaj!LibreOffice15:28
slsimicGraf_Westerholt: this info is rather old15:29
BluesKajstrange stuff ...this is weird it's in the repos15:29
slsimiceven 8.04 is mentioned there15:29
Graf_Westerholtsorush20 sudo apt-get install kword15:30
slsimicand is mostly for Ubuntu and Gnome15:30
sorush20Graf_Westerholt: I want the entire office packages.. etc15:32
BluesKajI guess the open office transition to libreoffice is still in the dev stages15:32
Graf_Westerholtsorush20 sudo apt-get install koffice15:33
BluesKajsorush20, libreoffice is the suite you want then15:33
sorush20Graf_Westerholt: its not installed15:33
Graf_Westerholtsorush20, that comand installs it.15:34
sorush20how do I get thekde menu to re arrange itself?15:35
Graf_Westerholtsorush20, that command arranges it.15:35
sorush20Graf_Westerholt: I'm not a newbe ... the command doesn't do what you are suggesting.. it is only installing one package and on removal only removing one package .. sudo apt-get install koffice15:38
BluesKajsorush20, are you looking for a Microsoft Office replacement ?15:39
sorush20BluesKaj: no15:39
BluesKajok15:39
BluesKajor equivlent on linux ?15:39
sorush20BluesKaj: no , there is something wrong with my sources or my dpkg15:40
Graf_Westerholt[17:25:42] <sorush20> how do i install koffice? The command installs koffice. What you you want?15:40
sorush20Graf_Westerholt: well I came here assuming something has changed from the previous versions of kubuntu apt-get install koffice , but since it didn't work then I'm here to see if this is a common prob or anything has changed. but since not then there is somehting worng at my end15:41
BluesKajGraf_Westerholt, sometimes alternative suggestions if the person is new to linux and not real sure of what they need15:42
Graf_Westerholtsorush20, maybe you pastebin your output of the command.15:43
BluesKajsorush20, check you kpackagekit or software sources and make sure the canonical partners are also enabled as well the universe and muliverse15:43
sorush20I'm right now doing  dpkg-reconfigure -a15:44
sorush20take some time15:44
sorush20nothing comes out on dpkg-reconfigure koffice15:46
sorush20koffice is already the newest version.15:46
sorush20that is the message from apt-get install koffice15:46
Graf_Westerholtsorush20, so run „kwrite“ in the terminal.15:47
sorush20Graf_Westerholt: its working I'm seeing it15:48
Graf_Westerholt:)15:48
sorush20kword I've tried15:48
sorush20what version shoudl it be15:48
Graf_Westerholtsorush20, I think 2.3.315:49
Graf_WesterholtSays so here.15:49
sorush20do you have kivio installed?15:50
BluesKajso waht's the advantage of koffice over an office suite like libre office besides space on the drive ?15:50
BluesKajbetter kde integration ?15:51
* BluesKaj shrugs15:53
Graf_WesterholtBluesKaj, everybody use the application he likes. :)15:54
BluesKajGraf_Westerholt, that's not what I asked :).....but nevermind15:55
sorush20apparently if you want to use kivio you have to stick with koffice 1.6 etc15:56
sorush20http://www.koffice.org/download/15:56
sorush20is there anything like kivio anyone else here uses.15:57
BluesKajodd sorush20 that your package manager doesn't contain koffice15:59
sorush20BluesKaj: it does contain it and it does install it and I can use the programs but kivio is not part of it and the kdemenu > office is not showing any of the programs16:00
BluesKajok sorush2016:01
khindenburgyofel: that LD is not set16:04
khindenburgit's possible I messed up my system somehow - I use this laptop to devel kde stuff16:05
yofelkhindenburg: what does 'which qmake' say?16:05
Graf_WesterholtWhat is kivio?16:05
Graf_Westerholt!kivio16:05
khindenburgyofel: not installed16:05
Graf_Westerholtsorush20 sometimes you have to wait or restart KDE to have the programs in the menu.16:06
kjartanohello is there any one that can help me install java ? xD16:08
Graf_Westerholt!java | kjartano16:09
ubottukjartano: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.16:09
yofelkhindenburg: and 'which konsole' says?16:11
khindenburgyofel: 5436 2011-07-08 04:34 /usr/bin/konsole*16:12
khindenburgthe konsolepart must work since I"m using yakuake16:13
yofelI'm out of ideas then, 32 or 64bit?16:14
yofelunless you have a Qt installation in /usr/local or so16:15
yofelbut then it should've found qmake16:15
khindenburgyofel: 3216:15
khindenburgyofel: that's OK - I likely did it myself - txs16:16
tiago__how can i open an output from a previous command in gedit, without creating a new file16:19
tiago__such as this: curl --manual > curlmanual && gedit curlmanual, without actually creating curlmanual16:19
monocodeAnyone experiencing KDE freezes on NVIDIA drivers when you try to resize Konsole app ?16:30
monocodeI have KDE 4.6.5 on Kubuntu 64 bit and when I try to resize Konsole it freezes my desktop environment and the user interface does not accept any input from keyboard anymore all I can do is restart from the button16:32
macieji'm getting error: Configuration file "/home/maciej/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc" not writable.16:34
maciejPlease contact your system administrator.16:34
maciejwhen i open the quick access browser16:34
monocodemaciej: you need to make dolphinrc file writable16:35
monocodemaciej: write click on it and change it permissions or from the command line16:35
BluesKajwrite = right16:36
monocoderight :)16:36
maciejpermission already : Owner: can read and write16:36
maciejgroup : forbidden, others: forbidden16:37
monocodemaciej: this file is in your home directory I suppose not from other user, right ?16:37
maciejcorrect16:38
maciejperhaps its fixed, i changed to 'read only' ok, then set back to read and write' ok, now no dialog popup16:38
maciejthank you16:38
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yofelmonocode: konsole trashing your system is a known issue with the nvidia 270 driver, you would need an updated one, add 'ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates' to your sources and update16:39
maciejmonocode: nevermind, dialog still pops up on new dolphin16:39
monocodeyofel: thanks, I'll try it out16:40
maciejis there a way i can force fix the permission because its already set to read and write,16:40
monocodemaciej: Change the permissions for others and group to Read and Write16:40
maciejmonocode: easy enough, thanks16:42
linux-beginner-hhow can I install wayland on kubuntu 11.4?16:42
yofellinux-beginner-h: there is an (experimental!!) wayland package in the archive16:42
kirkmonocode: re NVIDIA & Konsole resizing, confirmed, resize crashes16:43
linux-beginner-hyofel: yes, but it's broken because of libcairo2-dev16:43
yofellinux-beginner-h: then I fear I don't know, the folks in #ubuntu-x should know more16:44
linux-beginner-hyofel: okthanks16:44
monocodekirk: I tried to disable VSync and some other stuff from desktop effects but the same result, now I'm updating the NVIDIA drivers from the ppa mentioned above and see what happens16:44
yofelkirk: monocode: bug 76063216:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 760632 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Resizing Konsole crashes the whole system" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76063216:44
monocodeIts because of nvidia drivers I know this without even reading the bug report from launchpad because Kubuntu used to rock on my system with older versions of the driver16:46
monocodeanyway I'll try and see what people have found there and help with my own findings to solve the bug16:46
yofelthere's a variable you can set to prevent the crashing, but updating the driver should help too16:47
monocodeupdating the drivers solved the problem16:54
soultekkiebeen a user of ubuntu since 8.04... used to gnome... now that ubuntu isnt gnome i've given kubuntu a try... "KDE where have you been all my life?"16:58
soultekkieso... i'll keep using ubunto of the "17:00
soultekkieso... i'll keep using ubunto of the "K" kind :P17:00
preechersoultekkie its sweet isnt it eh17:01
soultekkieya17:01
soultekkiethe network manager is absolutely brilliant17:01
soultekkiecant count the problems i get from network-manager-applet in gnome17:01
preecheri like it for various reasons but the default look alone is very nice & i say it alot but kubu runs faster than ubu on my end17:04
soultekkiethe interface is great... even gnome3 is getting kind of weird17:05
soultekkiegnome-shell resembles unity17:06
BluesKajnetwork manager on kde and gnome are only ood with the most common wifi chips like broadcom etc...anything out of the ordinary has probs17:06
soultekkieat least kde still is a desktop environment that looks pro17:06
BluesKajerr good17:06
monocodeAnyone using TweetDeck (an Adobe AIR app) in Kubuntu?17:06
soultekkiewith networkmanager 0.8.4 as soon as i plugged my Alfa AWUS036NH it went crazy in ubuntu 10.04 (was running 2.6.38-10 kernel)17:07
soultekkieit looked better on ubuntu 11.04 but i dispise unity17:07
soultekkieexcuse my english ... portuguese dude here :P17:09
preechernp its fine17:09
Graf_WesterholtSorry, soultekkie, but I try to learn portuguese. :)17:09
soultekkiei may from time to time misspell some words sorry17:10
Graf_WesterholtNo problem, soultekkie. I think most people here are not native English speakers. So me.17:10
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soultekkieanyone using sudoers with nopasswd on 11.04?17:25
soultekkiecant seem to configure it properly17:25
BluesKajsoultekkie, yes , are you editing with vi ?17:29
soultekkiewith vim17:29
soultekkiei got *user*    ALL=(ALL)    NOPASSWD:ALL17:31
soultekkie*user* is my username... not written like that... 5 letters, no caps17:31
Graf_WesterholtI hope you know what you are doing, soultekkie.17:31
yofelhe does I guess, should work as long as you put that at the bottom of the file17:32
soultekkiein ubuntu 10.04 it was simpler... "user   ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL"17:32
yofelotherwise %admin might override the permission setting17:32
soultekkieand that would set it17:32
BluesKajyes , you also have to include /usr/bin/apt, /usr/bin/apt-get/ etc in the list plus what ever apps need the pw like packagemangers etc17:33
soultekkiety yofel... that did it :P bottom of the file FTW17:34
soultekkiebackwards compatibility is a good thing... beeing able to run gparted in kde is beautiful17:42
soultekkiedumb question... is nautilus able to run on kde?17:44
monocodewhy not... its just a file manager... that will bring on some gnomish dependencies17:47
monocodebut if you really want... :)17:47
soultekkiejust because dolphin copies a video/mp3 file before playing it17:47
soultekkiei actually prefer dolphin look and feel17:48
soultekkieok... nautilus solved the *remote video play* issue.. and i'll use it for that alone :P17:57
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afiefIs there a a way to install 4.7 RC on kubuntu 11.04?18:45
yofelnot yet18:45
afiefyofel: when can I be looking forward to its awesomeness?18:46
yofelI don't like giving estimates. RC2 might be ready in a ~week18:49
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Miika--Hello, I made put kubuntu iso image to usb with the usb-creator and when I try to boot, it hangs just in the beginning, I get only black screen where at the top reads about SYSLINUX or something like that... what's the problem?19:43
Miika--I tried unetbootin too, but same...19:43
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peace2_Miika--: bad iso downloaded20:08
peace2_!alternate | Miika--20:08
ubottuMiika--: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal20:08
Miika--peace2_: ok, I'll try that20:12
Miika--thanks20:12
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preecheri'm on kde-look.org, found a weather plasmoid (yet another weather plasmoid/yawp) that ive used in other distros--my question is there a way i can install this plasmoid ?20:57
PythonSnakepreecher: yeah sure21:01
PythonSnakepreecher: download it and install it from widgets21:02
preecherPythonSnake: thanks21:02
PythonSnakepreecher: np21:03
PythonSnakepreecher: do you play pursuit force ? o.O21:03
preecherPythonSnake: no i havent gamed in awhile, need to get back into it tho21:07
PythonSnakepreecher: lol ok21:08
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Miika--Hello, I downloaded alternate iso image and tried to boot from that but no effect21:27
Python_!details | Miika21:27
ubottuMiika: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:27
Miika--Still hangs at the very beginning21:27
Miika--Python_: I downloaded kubuntu alternate iso image, put it onto 4g usb drive with unetbootin and rebooted system... when I choose my usb drive from boot device menu, I get black screen that says something about SYSLINUX21:28
Miika--And I checked md5 sum of that iso image, it's ok21:29
Python_What's the "something about SYSLINUX" ?21:30
Miika--Like this: SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (c) 1994-2010, H. Peter Anvin et al21:31
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Miika--Not sure if it was exactly that, but much like it at least21:31
Pythonformat usb drive to fat32 and install again21:33
ikoniawhoaaaa21:33
ikoniaMiika--: is it possible to use a CD ?21:33
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uofm49426is there a update for wpa and kubuntu 11.0421:36
uofm49426just had to open my network from wondows21:37
uofm49426just had to open my network from windows21:37
Miika--Python: It is FAT3221:39
Miika--ikonia: I tried, with two different CDs21:40
ikoniaMiika--: ok so what happens when you boot from a CD ?21:40
Miika--ikonia: lots of errors, but I'll try now burning alternate iso to CD... the one I tried was desktop iso21:44
ikoniaMiika--: lots of errors, what sort of thing ?21:44
uofm49426not sure if its a rt8180 module problem or kubuntu but wouldnt connect with my passphras21:46
uofm49426wpa21:46
Miika--i think reading errors... but not sure21:47
Miika--if those repeat, ill report21:47
ikoniaMiika--: well, if you're having issues with it on cd and usb, it does suggest the image you've downloaded may not be valid21:47
Miika--I'll leave for now, I try CD I just burned21:49
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uofm49426why cant i lookin to my connect to my router in wpa21:52
uofm49426passphrass21:53
uofm49426why cant i loogin to my connect to my router in wpa kubuntu 11.04 rt8185 netgear rounter21:54
uofm49426#kubuntu-offtopic22:01
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soultekkiecan you guyz recommend a good video player for kde...23:47
soultekkievlc is good but has some issues with kde23:47
Pythonsoultekkie: default one23:52
scbsoultekkie: smplayer,23:52
soultekkiedefault is dragon23:53
scbsoultekkie: that thing is a joke, just use smplayer.23:58

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