[00:20] <sgrover> help?  Moved my drive from an old box to a new desktop.  Boots up rus fine.  Except screen resolution.  Stuck at 1280x1024 on a 24" monitor that supports 1920x1080.
[00:21] <miglo> what is the best procedure to upgrade from Karmic Koala to the latest version of Kubuntu?
[00:21] <sgrover> old system had nvidia.  new system is integrated intel video.  Connecting via SVGA and a DVI adapater (no SVGA on desktop, and no DVI cable at the moment)
[00:22] <miglo> shall I download the latest image and make a new installation?
[00:23] <sgrover> miglo: you can upgrade in place
[00:23] <sgrover> Not sure if Karmic had the nice graphical prompts sorted out yet or not.  But you can drop to command line and do a dist-upgrade.
[00:24] <sgrover> (i'm looking for the command for you...)
[00:24] <Unit193> miglo: You're on 9.10, you would have to 9.10 > 10.04 > 10.10 > 11.04 or you could use a cd and upgrade
[00:24] <Unit193> dist-upgrade isn't it
[00:25] <khindenburg> After my upgrade to KDE 4.6.5, konsole won't start - stays it is built w/ wrong Qt version
[00:25] <miglo> doing multiple upgrade steps would take longer than a complete installation, maybe
[00:26] <miglo> what is the best or fastest solution in my case?
[00:27] <bazhang> miglo, fastest is make back ups and fresh install.
[00:27] <bazhang> miglo, do you have a separate /home?
[00:28] <miglo> bazhang: yes, I have
[00:29] <bazhang> miglo, then set the installer to leave /home alone and fresh install
[00:30] <almigi2> khindenburg: how long ago did you do the upgrade?  if you update apt, does it show any thing else that needs to be updated?
[00:30] <miglo> bazhang: I have another partition with some data on it. should also be no problem, I guess. Is ext4 still a good choice?
[00:31] <khindenburg> almigi2: I did the full update a few hours ago; I just checked again and nothing to upgrade
[00:31] <bazhang> miglo, yes ext4 is a very good choice
[00:31] <almigi2> khindenburg: odd my best guess would be that you did an upgrade before all the files were ready....
[00:32] <khindenburg> Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x1040702
[00:33] <miglo> ok, will download kubuntu now - thanks for help
[00:33] <bazhang> np
[00:33] <almigi2> hmmm... I dunno. I've only been using kubuntu for a an hour or so... as soon as I installed it, I did the update and it worked.... sorry I don't know what else it could be
[00:35] <mranima> anyone experiencing sudden freezes? when using chromium or any other browsers?
[00:37] <yofel> khindenburg: while I'm starting my natty VM, what's the version of libqtcore4 for example?
[00:37] <miglo> selected the 64bit version of kubuntu
[00:39] <jordan_> hey does anyone know how to put ringtones on a iphone 4?
[00:41] <vietred> hi, I'm using Kubuntu natty, when I press Ctrl + Alt + F1-6, I can only see a "_". Can anyone help me?
[00:42] <OerHeks> vietred, wait 2-3 sec after pressing ctrl alt F2
[00:42] <OerHeks> and F7 for returning to this gui
[00:43] <miglo> vietred, is there no prompt?
[00:43] <yofel> there can be no prompt if the system is stuck on boot and he's trying to switch to the tty's in that condition
[00:43] <yofel> soo... why are you trying to get to them?
[00:45] <vietred> well, I wait about 10 secs but nothing happen
[00:46] <vietred> yofel: my system is OK, I just want to learn about tty :D
[00:46] <yofel> hm, then the login prompts *should* be there :/
[00:48] <vietred> what files should I check to see if tty is disable?
[00:50] <yofel> shouldn't be disabled unless you messed with runlevels
[00:50] <yofel> try 'sudo service tty2 start' and see if F2 has a login prompt now
[00:50] <yofel> /var/log/syslog *might* have something
[00:51] <vietred> yofel: this is what I got: Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing.
[00:52] <yofel> I'm clueless then :/
[00:53] <miglo> hm, shouldn't there be a process like getty if a tty is available?
[00:54] <yofel> there should, 6 of them
[00:54] <miglo> so vietred could check the process table
[00:54] <vietred> yofel: me too :(, I haven't experience anything like this before
[00:54] <yofel> check for the getty processes as miglo said
[00:55] <vietred> use top?
[00:55] <yofel> top or ps
[00:55] <yofel> ps -e
[00:56] <vietred> getty is not in process table
[00:58] <vietred> so I have to start getty?
[00:59] <yofel> hm, when I restart tty2 here I don't get a warning, but I don't know why it would complain about a fake initctl o.O
[01:00] <yofel> unless  you messed with init?
[01:01] <vietred> I did a fresh install of kubuntu a month ago, and I haven't mess with it (yet)
[01:01] <yofel> ok
[01:06] <yofel> vietred: what does this give you? dpkg -S $(which initctl)
[01:07] <vietred> upstart: /sbin/initctl
[01:09] <yofel> vietred: and 'ls -l /sbin/initctl' ?
[01:10] <vietred> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84 2011-06-16 11:57 /sbin/initctl
[01:11] <yofel> ok, that's far too small, what's in there?
[01:11] <yofel> or got a /sbin/initctl.real or so ?
[01:12] <khindenburg> yofel: 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6.1
[01:13] <vietred> err, I only got 1 line
[01:13] <yofel> that is?
[01:14] <vietred> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84 2011-06-16 11:57 /sbin/initctl
[01:14] <yofel> vietred: no, can you open that file in an editor and check what's in it?
[01:14] <yofel> I would expect it's a script of some sort
[01:14] <vietred> ok
[01:15] <vietred> #!/bin/sh
[01:15] <vietred> echo 1>&2
[01:15] <vietred> echo 'Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing.' 1>&2
[01:15] <vietred> exit 0
[01:15] <FloodBotK1> vietred: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:15] <yofel> where did that come from o.O
[01:16] <yofel> vietred: sudo apt-get install --reinstall upstart
[01:16] <vietred> looks like that script does only 1 thing :-S
[01:17] <vietred> yofel: don't ask me, I'm what-the-helling myself :))
[01:17] <vietred> install done
[01:18] <yofel> khindenburg: same here, but konsole works fine (konsole 2.6.4 from 4.6.5), I'm tired so can't help you more, but feel free to file a bug for now https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+filebug
[01:18] <yofel> vietred: try to restart tty2 again
[01:18] <khindenburg> yofel: ok, np - a reinstall didn't work
[01:19] <yofel> khindenburg: just asking, but you don't have any LD_LIBRARY_PATH or so set?
[01:20] <vietred> yofel: tty2 start/running, process 2137
[01:20] <vietred> Can I press ctrl + alt + F2 now?
[01:20] <yofel> yep, should work now
[01:21] <vietred> yes, it works :D
[01:21] <vietred> thank you :D
[01:21] <yofel> homework: find out how you managed to mess up init :P
[01:21] <yofel> although that script is usually something used to disable services in a chroot
[01:22] <vietred> haha
[01:26]  * yofel is off to bed, good night
[01:29] <vietred> good night yofel (it's morning here)
[01:45] <sri13> Hi all
[01:45] <sri13> How can I update to latest kde version in kubuntu ?
[01:57] <lcb> sri13: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (if not upgradeable that's because is not supported yet)
[01:59] <sri13> lcb: Thanks :)
[01:59] <lcb> ;)
[02:07] <jordan_> hey does anyone know how to put ringtones on a iphone 4?
[02:17] <jordan_> maybe someone can answer another question i have. I have a program that does have a icon "doesnt have one low development" how do i add one?
[02:17] <jordan_> doesnt*
[02:18] <jordan_> im talking about adding a menu icon the top left one on the title bar
[04:34] <atomicfusion> how can i disable screen locking on hibernate, but not on sleep?
[04:52] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, anybody know a Freenode channel to talk about cars & car problems? lol
[04:56] <LINKSWORD2> Ok, guess not.... Another problem: My volume controls aren't working, and my volume mixer icon is missing....
[05:01] <bdh> adding a bg
[05:02] <bdh> linksword try adding pavucontrol it worked for me
[05:09] <atomicfusion> what is run when "sleep" or "hibernate" is pressed in the menu?
[05:51] <uofm49426> question is kubuntu 11.04 having the same problem off stalling that xubuntu and ubuntu is having
[05:54] <uofm49426> both xubuntu and ubuntu 11.04 stalls after sometime in screensavers they tell everyone just go to a blank screan but thats not a fix
[05:58] <preecher> uofm49426 had the same probs with xubu---but ive had no probs with anythin on kubuntu & on my end it runs faster than ubu unity---so im hooked on the blue
[06:00] <uofm49426> i can use kde use to mintkde
[06:02] <uofm49426> when i leave for 15 minute and return to a stalled computer well that sucked lol
[06:03] <uofm49426> had the problem on a x41 thinkpad with a intel 915
[06:03] <uofm49426> was just thinking its a intel problem
[06:04] <uofm49426> then my computer with nv 330 gt amd x2 be-2400 and 2 gb of ram
[06:05] <uofm49426> i was like ok its a big problem  and not just the one computer
[06:05] <preecher> one way i kept it from freezing on my end was only using the ant with a spotlight screensaver and setting it not to change savers or random
[06:06] <preecher> but again that wasnt a fix
[06:08] <uofm49426> no problem with 10:10 work perfect if i get the same with kde im just staying at 10.10 till the next build
[06:09] <preecher> well im on kubuntu 11.04 & have it on 2 thinkpads & a acer netbook and have had zero problems
[06:09] <uofm49426> i dont like the new gnome 3 look anyways
[06:10] <uofm49426> i know you can go to a classic look
[06:11] <uofm49426> but i cant use the cloudos looking gnome
[06:12] <preecher> i used gnome- initially i didnt like unity but was warming to it- tried kubuntu & the noticed increase in speed & just plain out good looks swayed me
[06:14] <preecher> i dont know how the devs did it--i always heard kde was a resource hog but in all my instances ive seen the opposite at least compared to the few distros ive used
[06:15] <uofm49426> fedora is alright to but they lack software in repos
[06:17] <uofm49426> how does buntu protect the users password since its also the root password
[06:18] <uofm49426> and a user pass is so much easier to hack
[06:19] <atomicfusion> uofm49426: root doesnt usually have a password, thats what sudo is for
[06:19] <uofm49426> my brother wants to know hes a debian writer
[06:20] <uofm49426> he was telling me how easy it is to get a sudo password
[06:21] <atomicfusion> as far as i know, the only ways to get a "sudo" password would eb keylogging it, or replacing sudo with another program
[06:23] <tsimpson> uofm49426: a user password is no easier to get than a root password
[06:24] <tsimpson> it's actually harder, as you _need_ to know the user name to "crack" the password, and when the only well-known one (root) is disabled, your chances are reduced greatly
[06:50] <LINKSWORD2> Hey all.
[06:53] <LINKSWORD2> Can I get Kubuntu, KDE or Knotify to tell mw if Caps Lock, Scroll Lock or Num Lock are on???
[06:57] <LINKSWORD2> !num lock
[06:57] <LINKSWORD2> !ubottu: numlock
[06:57] <LINKSWORD2> ... Also not working.
[07:00] <LINKSWORD2> Oy! Is nobody at all here awake???
[07:01] <atomicfusion> im here, i just cant really help you, sorry
[07:06] <LINKSWORD2> Know anybody that can? lol
[07:07] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: plasma-widget-kbstate
[07:07] <tsimpson> !info plasma-widget-kbstate
[07:08] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: Is it part of Kubuntu by default, or do I need to install it?
[07:09] <tsimpson> it's in universe, so not installed by default
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> Mkay...
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> So I need to install it. How?
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> sudo apt-get install .... ???
[07:11] <tsimpson> or with the package manager, yes
[07:11] <TanteInge> Hi Ich search MP3Players for Shoutcast Streaming (IDJC)?
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> Does it pop up a message on Knotify?
[07:12] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: it's a plasma widget, so put in on the panel
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> On the main toolbar? :/
[07:13] <tsimpson> where ever you want it
[07:13] <tsimpson> it's a widget, it can be on the panel or on the desktop, whatever you want
[07:13] <LINKSWORD2> I'm something of a minimalist. I don't like icons on the desktop...
[07:16] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: Do you know of anything else that can notify me, without having to add it to a toolbar?
[07:18] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: System Settings -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys
[07:23] <chaitu> Greetings All. Am kinda new to linux and kubuntu and wondering, am I the only one who has these awkward fonts on browsers?
[07:23] <chaitu> or is this the way linux is designed...if yes,we have some work to do :)
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> Take a screencap.
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> !pastebin
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> !screenshots
[07:24] <chaitu> oh cool. Thanks..give me a minute please
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> I'll do what I can to help.
[07:25] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: Neither the widget nor the control panel settings are creating a notification... And I have toggled the Caps Lock and Num Lock to test it.
[07:26] <nir> hello everyone
[07:26] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: I tested, works fine. did you edit the notifications?
[07:27] <nir> guys how playes assault cube/??
[07:28] <chaitu> here it goes : http://imagebin.org/162403
[07:28] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: I'm not sure what's going on....
[07:28] <LINKSWORD2> If you need to, I can open the remote desktop tie-in...
[07:31] <chaitu> LINKSWORD2:Do you think you can help me?
[07:31] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: System Settings -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys, check the "Use KDE's system notification mechanism whenever a modifier or locking key changes its state" option, click the "Configure Notifications..." button, check the "Show a message in a popup" for "A lock key has been deactivated" and "A lock key has been activated"
[07:31] <LINKSWORD2> Just a quick moment, chaitu.
[07:31] <chaitu> cool thanks.
[07:33] <LINKSWORD2> Thanks, tsimpson. Looks like it works now.
[07:33] <LINKSWORD2> All right, chaitu. I'm taking a look at your screenshot now.
[07:34] <chaitu> k
[07:35] <chaitu> I told you guys my fonts are scary
[07:36] <chaitu> scared you LINKSWORD2? ;)
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> That's bizarre... I keep getting disconnected... Randomly...
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> lol @ chaitu
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> I was about to say that everything looks normal from my end, as I look at your screenshot.
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> O_o Whoa...
[07:37] <LINKSWORD2> It appears you have some sort of Arabic or variant language font...
[07:37] <chaitu> let me give you its name
[07:37] <LINKSWORD2> I assume you are an English user...
[07:38] <chaitu> Yes
[07:38] <LINKSWORD2> Ok.
[07:39] <LINKSWORD2> Does it appear on other windows, outside of your internet browsers?
[07:39] <chaitu> http://imagebin.org/162405
[07:39] <chaitu> yes all browsers look the same.
[07:40] <LINKSWORD2> OK.
[07:40] <LINKSWORD2> You said you're new to Kubuntu.
[07:41] <LINKSWORD2> Have you checked the language settings?
[07:41] <chaitu> you mean in chrome? or in kubuntu?
[07:42] <LINKSWORD2> Alt + F1 opens the Launch menu in Kubuntu.
[07:42] <LINKSWORD2> From there, look for a crossed hammer and wrench.... That will be your System Settings.
[07:43] <LINKSWORD2> In there, a blue flag will be labeled Locale.
[07:43] <LINKSWORD2> Hopefully, your problem will be in there, and easily changed...
[07:43] <chaitu> well it has India in there. However all other settings are looking just fine
[07:44] <chaitu> I read this has something to do with xfonts or something
[07:44] <LINKSWORD2> Go ahead and change it. I assume you're in the continental USA?
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> A lot of computer systems, not just Kubuntu can be picky, if not anal about which regional settings you choose.
[07:45] <chaitu> Nope. Am in India
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> O_o?
[07:45] <chaitu> :)
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> Heh...
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> All right... :/
[07:46] <LINKSWORD2> Well, as I was saying, a lot of computer systems can be picky about which regional settings you choose.
[07:46] <LINKSWORD2> Try changing them to something you know you can understand. (Example being US English.)
[07:47] <chaitu> umnn doing that
[07:48] <LINKSWORD2> I'm searching for other options, in case that doesn't solve the problem.
[07:49] <chaitu> Thanks a ton
[07:49] <LINKSWORD2> chaitu: For what I can see of your background image, it's really pretty. :)
[07:50] <chaitu> hehe thanks..am still figuring out how to have this system setup..
[07:51] <chaitu> would you be kind enough to upload your browser fonts once? just wanna see if it looks like windows for you guys
[07:51] <LINKSWORD2> I only have the KDE defaults.
[07:51] <LINKSWORD2> *Kubuntu* defaults.
[07:52] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry, I get the Kubuntu OS and the KDE Plasma engine mixed up, a bit.
[07:52] <chaitu> so it just shows up as normal site on windows for you? no difference in fonts at all?
[07:53] <tsimpson> chaitu: you should probably start by changing your encoding to UTF-8, rather than ISO-8859-1
[07:54] <LINKSWORD2> Aha... I didn't even think about character encoding. :/
[07:55] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[07:55] <chaitu> ok cool.let me do that tsimpson . thanks
[07:56] <chaitu> I have utf 16LE
[07:56] <LINKSWORD2> Do you not have UTF-8?>
[07:56] <tsimpson> most web servers don't like 16 or 32
[07:57] <chaitu> but i must say it did improve
[07:57] <chaitu> umnn can I install utf 8?
[07:57] <tsimpson> you shouldn't have to no, it's the first option for me
[07:58] <LINKSWORD2> It is also the same for me.
[07:59] <chaitu> oh well..am sorry. yes i have it in there
[08:00] <LINKSWORD2> Well, let's hit the UTF-8 and see if Google Chrome cooperates...
[08:01] <chaitu> whats the standard font you guys use? I have it as times new roman
[08:01] <LINKSWORD2> I do not think Times New Roman is available outside of Windows.
[08:01] <LINKSWORD2> It is a copyrighted font.
[08:02] <chaitu> you can install xfonts or something..
[08:02] <chaitu> that gives you that option..
[08:02] <LINKSWORD2> The equivalent font is Nimbus Roman No9.
[08:03]  * tsimpson uses -> http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimpson/images/snapshot3.png
[08:03] <LINKSWORD2> Thankfully, where there is a will, there is a way....
[08:03] <tsimpson> but I often have my monitor quite far from my face, in a vain attempt to stop by eyes from getting worse
[08:04] <LINKSWORD2> Under the Bonnet? You're obviously set to British English. :D
[08:04] <chaitu> does it come close to windows style browsing?
[08:05] <LINKSWORD2> I feel like I want to slap the next person that mentions Windows.
[08:05] <tsimpson> I'm not sure what "windows style browsing" is really
[08:05] <chaitu> I mean the clarity and rendering
[08:05] <tsimpson> chrome basically looks/feels/acts the same on all platforms, as does firefox
[08:05] <LINKSWORD2> Microsoft panders its victims with unstable, DOS-based crap that blue-screens, locks up, and crashes a million times over...
[08:06] <tsimpson> that's probably it's major "selling point"
[08:06]  * LINKSWORD2 agrees with tsimpson
[08:07] <chaitu> tsimpson: I dont think it looks the same on linux and windows. I can clearly see the difference the way it shows up sites on windows and linux
[08:08] <chaitu> font is what am talking about.
[08:08] <tsimpson> you can change fonts, that's up to you
[08:08] <LINKSWORD2> *facepalm*
[08:08] <chaitu> yes. but changing fonts wouldnt give you the same experience.
[08:08] <LINKSWORD2> You know WHY Microsoft crap is so expensive?
[08:08] <tsimpson> also, some websites are poorly written and only designed to work with IE, rather than using the multitude of web standards out there
[08:09] <chaitu> am not rallying for windows here..just saying
[08:09] <LINKSWORD2> There's over 400 copyrights cited, just in the initial base code...
[08:09] <chaitu> know any site which is written for all platforms? would love to see
[08:09] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: relax, it's not worth getting high blood-pressure over :)
[08:10] <LINKSWORD2> *Lights my old Windows 95 floppys on fire.*
[08:10] <chaitu> LINKSWORD2: heh I realise that and am not saying anything for windows here..I just want the sites to look better on this OS :)
[08:10] <tsimpson> chaitu: lots are, like google. but you have to decide which fonts you want (if you aren't happy with the default)
[08:10] <chaitu> ah..makes sense
[08:10] <tsimpson> customize it to where _you_ are happy with the look
[08:11] <LINKSWORD2> chaitu: There are many similarities and many differences between each OS/ platform.
[08:11] <tsimpson> the good news is that many sites are getting better, as FF (and Chrome) become more adopted in windows they need to use real standards
[08:12] <tsimpson> ... and various mobile platforms
[08:12] <LINKSWORD2> As you go along, I'm sure you'll find many of those similarities and differences.
[08:12] <LINKSWORD2> It's up to you to customize for the look, feel, and performance that you want.
[08:13] <chaitu> I understand..
[08:13] <LINKSWORD2> For myself, for example.... I have a very resource-light computer system....
[08:13] <LINKSWORD2> One outdated enough that anything made after Windows 2000/ME is sluggish on it, at best...
[08:14] <LINKSWORD2> So... I scrapped Microsoft's crap-fest and put Kubuntu on it instead.
[08:14] <LINKSWORD2> .... And then I customized it, in many ways, to look like an Apple OSX platform.
[08:15] <LINKSWORD2> Hehe. :D That's one thing I love about Linux systems. HIGHLY customizable.
[08:21] <LINKSWORD2> Well.... I'm signing off.
[09:16] <dahalla> hi guys, just a quick question i couldn't answer with google: can i use the ubuntu software center on kubuntu?
[09:17] <tsimpson> yes
[09:17] <dahalla> thanks :)
[11:56] <phoenixlzx> http://phoenixlzx.wordpress.com/2011/07/10/71/
[12:00] <lcb> that's really nasty
[12:04] <ben__> hi
[12:27] <AlexZion> hi guys ,yesterday I experimented a strange behaviorof my Kubuntu 11.04,  and trying again is the same , so probablly ia kind of bug i guess...., let me explain better
[12:29] <Tm_T> phoenixlzx: please keep this channel for Kubuntu support, thanks
[12:30] <AlexZion> normally when I login in my system, after everything is loaded, I connect my wireless which open up a kwalle windows, because the wireless password is indie a wallet ....., but if I do it too early it doesn't apper , and after that , the only way to connect the wireless is to restart the system and wait until everything is loaded , it si normal ... ? I mean , it happen just on my system ?, or is a common problem !?!
[12:30] <phoenixlzx> Tm_T: Are you a human?or bot??
[12:30] <Tm_T> phoenixlzx: a human
[12:31] <Tm_T> AlexZion: hmmm, I haven't encountered that, you mean that in some cases kwallet fails to appear, thus not providing the password?
[12:32] <AlexZion> yeah ..... Tm_T, and after that it doesn't appear anymore , since I restart the system ....
[12:32] <Tm_T> AlexZion: hmmm, what happens if you manually launch kwalletmanager?
[12:32] <phoenixlzx> Tm_T: may be you are right because it is kubuntu support channel.but how can you bear the behavior like that?is that something a human should do??
[12:33] <Tm_T> phoenixlzx: please, this channel is for Kubuntu support and only for that, you can continue the discussion with me in #kubuntu-offtopic for example
[12:34] <phoenixlzx> Tm_T: ok,i will post the message in #kubuntu-offtopic.thanks for remind
[12:37] <AlexZion> Tm_T:  how should I do it !?! I mean open kwallet related to the connection ...., or opening the wallet is just enough ?
[12:38] <Tm_T> AlexZion: press alt+F2 and enter "kwalletmanager" without quotes, a wallet icon should appear to your systray if it runs
[12:38] <Tm_T> AlexZion: this is only to determine if the wallet system launches at all after the failure (:
[12:39] <AlexZion> yes I know how to open it .... :), ok so I'll try ..., I'll be back in few minutes ..... ;)
[12:46] <AlexZion> mhhhh, really strange... Tm_T , now I tried to connect it immediatelly when the desktop apper and it worked ...., so I guess the problem is if I try to connect while some other application is launching ......, usually at startup I have skype, amarok, akregator, nothing else...., so probablly  something strange  happens  when one of these apps  is opening up and I try to connect ....
[12:47] <AlexZion> .....and the point is , no one os these apps has a password stored on the wallet ....
[12:49] <AlexZion> anyway...., is not a big problem if you know it, just a bit unconfortable .... ;)
[12:50] <lcb> AlexZion: disable it in settings.
[12:50] <AlexZion> lcb there is a way to take out just the wireless pasword from the wallet !?!
[12:51] <AlexZion> because kwallet is really usefull for me except for the wireless password .. .:D
[12:52] <lcb> AlexZion: under Waccess Control" i believe
[12:52] <lcb> "Access Control"
[12:53] <AlexZion> lcb: Access Control !?! what is that ?, I don't have something called Access Control for what I know ....
[12:54] <lcb> AlexZion: i had issues with it too so i decided to disable kwallet at all. i never  spent time to discover where the problems reside.
[12:55] <lcb> on the konsole type kwalletmanager | then click on the tab Access Control and expand kdewallet
[12:55] <AlexZion> yeah in the paste I did too, but rigth now I really need kwallet to store a lot of password like different ftp access, or some login and so on , so would be really nice to understand how to manage it ...
[12:57] <lcb> AlexZion: you might have in there one item for wireless
[12:57] <AlexZion> ok but on the access control settings , there is not a voice saying network manager ....
[12:58] <lcb> AlexZion: nothing.. like something related to networking??
[12:58] <lcb> i can't tell you the correct one because mine is disabled as i said :(
[12:58] <AlexZion> no on the access control panel ...., I have something about it just on the wallet ...
[13:00] <Peace-> AlexZion: :)
[13:01] <Peace-> nice job on the channel AlexZion
[13:01] <AlexZion> anyway , I'll try to remove the wireless password , and after that try to avoid tha use oh kwallet from network manager , hopefully it will works ...., even if I never been lucjy with that ....., thanks...
[13:01] <AlexZion> hi Peace- what are you talking about !?!
[13:02] <Peace-> AlexZion: are you not italian?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:02] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hey
[13:02] <lcb> AlexZion: i would remove all that wireless point. since you are having some issues with the passwds. then configure it again
[13:02] <lcb> AlexZion: restart networking after doing it, if you do
[13:02] <Peace-> AlexZion: oh you had the problem :D
[13:02] <Peace-> sorry
[13:02] <Peace-> :P
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[13:02] <AlexZion> yeah sure , I'm the on on the italian channel but..., what nice job are you talking about ?
[13:03] <Peace-> AlexZion: nothing sorry i have read bad i thougth you was supportin on the channel
[13:03] <fayaz> hi, how do i properly backup my kwallet passwords?
[13:03] <Peace-> AlexZion: instead you had a problem xD and you have asked support
[13:04] <AlexZion> ok Peace-, sometime I do when I can , but as you know I'm not so expert ... :D
[13:05] <lcb> :)
[13:05] <lcb> launch time here. brb
[13:05] <lcb> lunch either
[13:05] <Peace-> fayaz: i would save the hidden file
[13:06] <fayaz> Peace-: filepath?
[13:07] <Peace-> fayaz: locate kwallet | grep $HOME/.kde/
[13:07] <Peace-> should be kwl
[13:07] <Peace-> i guess
[13:08] <Peace-> BluesKaj: temperature?
[13:08] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i am melting
[13:08] <BluesKaj> 21C at 9:08
[13:09] <fayaz> Peace-: thanks
[13:09] <Peace-> here i guess 30 shadow
[13:09] <BluesKaj> going to 30 today ...warm for this area
[13:09] <Peace-> 8000 under the sun
[13:09] <BluesKaj> shade
[13:09] <Peace-> :) yea
[14:07] <31NAAPI8M> i wan't KDE 4.7rc ppa
[14:08] <ikonia> great, get it
[14:10] <31NAAPI8M> is there kde4.7 rc ppa on launchpad
[14:10] <yofel> no
[14:10] <BluesKaj> yeah , it'll break your system ..tried it yesterday ...ended up in an unresponsive prompt , with no X
[14:11] <BluesKaj> 31NAAPI8M,^
[14:12] <31NAAPI8M> ?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> 31NAAPI8M, read what I posted above
[14:13] <BluesKaj> kde 4.7 isn't ready
[14:13] <31NAAPI8M> thnks
[14:18] <31NAAPI8M> BluseKaj : but my friend got 4.7 release candidate with  pacman in arch.
[14:18] <lcb> do you guys know any data and software management suite for mobile devices? (meaning access to your device system and data and manipulating it)
[14:18] <lcb> 31NAAPI8M: not supported
[14:20] <lcb> 31NAAPI8M: not supported in a direct sense = by means of a normal installation and maintenance of the system you are running from the official and main source.
[14:21] <BluesKaj> 31NAAPI8M, well, it migh work with his HW in arhHc, but this is kubuntu and your HW may be different , hence diffrent results
[14:23] <31NAAPI8M> ok, arch is rolling relase! and kubuntu is  not rolling relase! :)
[14:24] <31NAAPI8M> release
[14:26] <lcb> 31NAAPI8M: probably is rolling conscientiously on the backstage instead of on-the-fly patches/updates from "accessories"(in this case a graphical environment)
[14:27] <BluesKaj> 31NAAPI8M, if you want to try it , then go ahead..my post is just a warning abot what happened to me !
[14:28] <lcb> 31NAAPI8M: you don't see too many problems here it's a symptom that all updates/grades are well tested before going to the "wild"
[14:28] <lcb> *here. it's a symp..*
[14:42] <khindenburg> After upgrade 4.6.5, I can't start konsole - any ideas how to resolve? Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x1040702)
[14:44] <lcb> "Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x1040702)" that says it all. Cannot mix a current system with a non tested one.
[14:46] <lcb> i think someone should add to the topic about unsupported "additions" to kubuntu
[14:47] <sorush20> what program do I use to draw algorythms
[14:47] <sorush20> algorithems
[14:51] <cdunlap> Has anyone had any trouble upgrading to KDE4.6.5 from the kubuntu ppa?
[14:55] <yofel> khindenburg: to continue from yesterday: are you on 32 or 64bit? LD_LIBRARY_PATH set in any way?
[15:23] <slsimic> What are the ways to set wireless connection in Kubuntu? I tried with Network Management plasmoid, but that way connection is made after I login into KDE. I tried wicd-kde also but wicd won't connect with my router with WPA2 encryption saying "Bad password".
[15:24] <Graf_Westerholt> !network | slsimic
[15:24] <slsimic> Is there any other way to set and make wireless connection during startup?
[15:24] <sorush20> !koffice
[15:24] <sorush20> !koffice
[15:25] <sorush20> how do i install koffice?
[15:25] <sorush20> Its not there.
[15:26] <sorush20> its not in the repositories
[15:26] <BluesKaj> !libreoffice
[15:26] <sorush20> http://www.kde.org/applications/office/
[15:27] <BluesKaj> !info | libreoffice
[15:27] <BluesKaj> really?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> !LibreOffice
[15:29] <slsimic> Graf_Westerholt: this info is rather old
[15:29] <BluesKaj> strange stuff ...this is weird it's in the repos
[15:29] <slsimic> even 8.04 is mentioned there
[15:30] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20 sudo apt-get install kword
[15:30] <slsimic> and is mostly for Ubuntu and Gnome
[15:32] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: I want the entire office packages.. etc
[15:32] <BluesKaj> I guess the open office transition to libreoffice is still in the dev stages
[15:33] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20 sudo apt-get install koffice
[15:33] <BluesKaj> sorush20, libreoffice is the suite you want then
[15:33] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: its not installed
[15:34] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, that comand installs it.
[15:35] <sorush20> how do I get thekde menu to re arrange itself?
[15:35] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, that command arranges it.
[15:38] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: I'm not a newbe ... the command doesn't do what you are suggesting.. it is only installing one package and on removal only removing one package .. sudo apt-get install koffice
[15:39] <BluesKaj> sorush20, are you looking for a Microsoft Office replacement ?
[15:39] <sorush20> BluesKaj: no
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:39] <BluesKaj> or equivlent on linux ?
[15:40] <sorush20> BluesKaj: no , there is something wrong with my sources or my dpkg
[15:40] <Graf_Westerholt> [17:25:42] <sorush20> how do i install koffice? The command installs koffice. What you you want?
[15:41] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: well I came here assuming something has changed from the previous versions of kubuntu apt-get install koffice , but since it didn't work then I'm here to see if this is a common prob or anything has changed. but since not then there is somehting worng at my end
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, sometimes alternative suggestions if the person is new to linux and not real sure of what they need
[15:43] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, maybe you pastebin your output of the command.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> sorush20, check you kpackagekit or software sources and make sure the canonical partners are also enabled as well the universe and muliverse
[15:44] <sorush20> I'm right now doing  dpkg-reconfigure -a
[15:44] <sorush20> take some time
[15:46] <sorush20> nothing comes out on dpkg-reconfigure koffice
[15:46] <sorush20> koffice is already the newest version.
[15:46] <sorush20> that is the message from apt-get install koffice
[15:47] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, so run „kwrite“ in the terminal.
[15:48] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: its working I'm seeing it
[15:48] <Graf_Westerholt> :)
[15:48] <sorush20> kword I've tried
[15:48] <sorush20> what version shoudl it be
[15:49] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, I think 2.3.3
[15:49] <Graf_Westerholt> Says so here.
[15:50] <sorush20> do you have kivio installed?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> so waht's the advantage of koffice over an office suite like libre office besides space on the drive ?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> better kde integration ?
[15:53]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[15:54] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, everybody use the application he likes. :)
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, that's not what I asked :).....but nevermind
[15:56] <sorush20> apparently if you want to use kivio you have to stick with koffice 1.6 etc
[15:56] <sorush20> http://www.koffice.org/download/
[15:57] <sorush20> is there anything like kivio anyone else here uses.
[15:59] <BluesKaj> odd sorush20 that your package manager doesn't contain koffice
[16:00] <sorush20> BluesKaj: it does contain it and it does install it and I can use the programs but kivio is not part of it and the kdemenu > office is not showing any of the programs
[16:01] <BluesKaj> ok sorush20
[16:04] <khindenburg> yofel: that LD is not set
[16:05] <khindenburg> it's possible I messed up my system somehow - I use this laptop to devel kde stuff
[16:05] <yofel> khindenburg: what does 'which qmake' say?
[16:05] <Graf_Westerholt> What is kivio?
[16:05] <Graf_Westerholt> !kivio
[16:05] <khindenburg> yofel: not installed
[16:06] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20 sometimes you have to wait or restart KDE to have the programs in the menu.
[16:08] <kjartano> hello is there any one that can help me install java ? xD
[16:09] <Graf_Westerholt> !java | kjartano
[16:11] <yofel> khindenburg: and 'which konsole' says?
[16:12] <khindenburg> yofel: 5436 2011-07-08 04:34 /usr/bin/konsole*
[16:13] <khindenburg> the konsolepart must work since I"m using yakuake
[16:14] <yofel> I'm out of ideas then, 32 or 64bit?
[16:15] <yofel> unless you have a Qt installation in /usr/local or so
[16:15] <yofel> but then it should've found qmake
[16:15] <khindenburg> yofel: 32
[16:16] <khindenburg> yofel: that's OK - I likely did it myself - txs
[16:19] <tiago__> how can i open an output from a previous command in gedit, without creating a new file
[16:19] <tiago__> such as this: curl --manual > curlmanual && gedit curlmanual, without actually creating curlmanual
[16:30] <monocode> Anyone experiencing KDE freezes on NVIDIA drivers when you try to resize Konsole app ?
[16:32] <monocode> I have KDE 4.6.5 on Kubuntu 64 bit and when I try to resize Konsole it freezes my desktop environment and the user interface does not accept any input from keyboard anymore all I can do is restart from the button
[16:34] <maciej> i'm getting error: Configuration file "/home/maciej/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc" not writable.
[16:34] <maciej> Please contact your system administrator.
[16:34] <maciej> when i open the quick access browser
[16:35] <monocode> maciej: you need to make dolphinrc file writable
[16:35] <monocode> maciej: write click on it and change it permissions or from the command line
[16:36] <BluesKaj> write = right
[16:36] <monocode> right :)
[16:36] <maciej> permission already : Owner: can read and write
[16:37] <maciej> group : forbidden, others: forbidden
[16:37] <monocode> maciej: this file is in your home directory I suppose not from other user, right ?
[16:38] <maciej> correct
[16:38] <maciej> perhaps its fixed, i changed to 'read only' ok, then set back to read and write' ok, now no dialog popup
[16:38] <maciej> thank you
[16:39] <yofel> monocode: konsole trashing your system is a known issue with the nvidia 270 driver, you would need an updated one, add 'ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates' to your sources and update
[16:39] <maciej> monocode: nevermind, dialog still pops up on new dolphin
[16:40] <monocode> yofel: thanks, I'll try it out
[16:40] <maciej> is there a way i can force fix the permission because its already set to read and write,
[16:40] <monocode> maciej: Change the permissions for others and group to Read and Write
[16:42] <maciej> monocode: easy enough, thanks
[16:42] <linux-beginner-h> how can I install wayland on kubuntu 11.4?
[16:42] <yofel> linux-beginner-h: there is an (experimental!!) wayland package in the archive
[16:43] <kirk> monocode: re NVIDIA & Konsole resizing, confirmed, resize crashes
[16:43] <linux-beginner-h> yofel: yes, but it's broken because of libcairo2-dev
[16:44] <yofel> linux-beginner-h: then I fear I don't know, the folks in #ubuntu-x should know more
[16:44] <linux-beginner-h> yofel: okthanks
[16:44] <monocode> kirk: I tried to disable VSync and some other stuff from desktop effects but the same result, now I'm updating the NVIDIA drivers from the ppa mentioned above and see what happens
[16:44] <yofel> kirk: monocode: bug 760632
[16:46] <monocode> Its because of nvidia drivers I know this without even reading the bug report from launchpad because Kubuntu used to rock on my system with older versions of the driver
[16:46] <monocode> anyway I'll try and see what people have found there and help with my own findings to solve the bug
[16:47] <yofel> there's a variable you can set to prevent the crashing, but updating the driver should help too
[16:54] <monocode> updating the drivers solved the problem
[16:58] <soultekkie> been a user of ubuntu since 8.04... used to gnome... now that ubuntu isnt gnome i've given kubuntu a try... "KDE where have you been all my life?"
[17:00] <soultekkie> so... i'll keep using ubunto of the "
[17:00] <soultekkie> so... i'll keep using ubunto of the "K" kind :P
[17:01] <preecher> soultekkie its sweet isnt it eh
[17:01] <soultekkie> ya
[17:01] <soultekkie> the network manager is absolutely brilliant
[17:01] <soultekkie> cant count the problems i get from network-manager-applet in gnome
[17:04] <preecher> i like it for various reasons but the default look alone is very nice & i say it alot but kubu runs faster than ubu on my end
[17:05] <soultekkie> the interface is great... even gnome3 is getting kind of weird
[17:06] <soultekkie> gnome-shell resembles unity
[17:06] <BluesKaj> network manager on kde and gnome are only ood with the most common wifi chips like broadcom etc...anything out of the ordinary has probs
[17:06] <soultekkie> at least kde still is a desktop environment that looks pro
[17:06] <BluesKaj> err good
[17:06] <monocode> Anyone using TweetDeck (an Adobe AIR app) in Kubuntu?
[17:07] <soultekkie> with networkmanager 0.8.4 as soon as i plugged my Alfa AWUS036NH it went crazy in ubuntu 10.04 (was running 2.6.38-10 kernel)
[17:07] <soultekkie> it looked better on ubuntu 11.04 but i dispise unity
[17:09] <soultekkie> excuse my english ... portuguese dude here :P
[17:09] <preecher> np its fine
[17:09] <Graf_Westerholt> Sorry, soultekkie, but I try to learn portuguese. :)
[17:10] <soultekkie> i may from time to time misspell some words sorry
[17:10] <Graf_Westerholt> No problem, soultekkie. I think most people here are not native English speakers. So me.
[17:25] <soultekkie> anyone using sudoers with nopasswd on 11.04?
[17:25] <soultekkie> cant seem to configure it properly
[17:29] <BluesKaj> soultekkie, yes , are you editing with vi ?
[17:29] <soultekkie> with vim
[17:31] <soultekkie> i got *user*    ALL=(ALL)    NOPASSWD:ALL
[17:31] <soultekkie> *user* is my username... not written like that... 5 letters, no caps
[17:31] <Graf_Westerholt> I hope you know what you are doing, soultekkie.
[17:32] <yofel> he does I guess, should work as long as you put that at the bottom of the file
[17:32] <soultekkie> in ubuntu 10.04 it was simpler... "user   ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL"
[17:32] <yofel> otherwise %admin might override the permission setting
[17:32] <soultekkie> and that would set it
[17:33] <BluesKaj> yes , you also have to include /usr/bin/apt, /usr/bin/apt-get/ etc in the list plus what ever apps need the pw like packagemangers etc
[17:34] <soultekkie> ty yofel... that did it :P bottom of the file FTW
[17:42] <soultekkie> backwards compatibility is a good thing... beeing able to run gparted in kde is beautiful
[17:44] <soultekkie> dumb question... is nautilus able to run on kde?
[17:47] <monocode> why not... its just a file manager... that will bring on some gnomish dependencies
[17:47] <monocode> but if you really want... :)
[17:47] <soultekkie> just because dolphin copies a video/mp3 file before playing it
[17:48] <soultekkie> i actually prefer dolphin look and feel
[17:57] <soultekkie> ok... nautilus solved the *remote video play* issue.. and i'll use it for that alone :P
[18:45] <afief> Is there a a way to install 4.7 RC on kubuntu 11.04?
[18:45] <yofel> not yet
[18:46] <afief> yofel: when can I be looking forward to its awesomeness?
[18:49] <yofel> I don't like giving estimates. RC2 might be ready in a ~week
[19:43] <Miika--> Hello, I made put kubuntu iso image to usb with the usb-creator and when I try to boot, it hangs just in the beginning, I get only black screen where at the top reads about SYSLINUX or something like that... what's the problem?
[19:43] <Miika--> I tried unetbootin too, but same...
[20:08] <peace2_> Miika--: bad iso downloaded
[20:08] <peace2_> !alternate | Miika--
[20:12] <Miika--> peace2_: ok, I'll try that
[20:12] <Miika--> thanks
[20:57] <preecher> i'm on kde-look.org, found a weather plasmoid (yet another weather plasmoid/yawp) that ive used in other distros--my question is there a way i can install this plasmoid ?
[21:01] <PythonSnake> preecher: yeah sure
[21:02] <PythonSnake> preecher: download it and install it from widgets
[21:02] <preecher> PythonSnake: thanks
[21:03] <PythonSnake> preecher: np
[21:03] <PythonSnake> preecher: do you play pursuit force ? o.O
[21:07] <preecher> PythonSnake: no i havent gamed in awhile, need to get back into it tho
[21:08] <PythonSnake> preecher: lol ok
[21:27] <Miika--> Hello, I downloaded alternate iso image and tried to boot from that but no effect
[21:27] <Python_> !details | Miika
[21:27] <Miika--> Still hangs at the very beginning
[21:28] <Miika--> Python_: I downloaded kubuntu alternate iso image, put it onto 4g usb drive with unetbootin and rebooted system... when I choose my usb drive from boot device menu, I get black screen that says something about SYSLINUX
[21:29] <Miika--> And I checked md5 sum of that iso image, it's ok
[21:30] <Python_> What's the "something about SYSLINUX" ?
[21:31] <Miika--> Like this: SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (c) 1994-2010, H. Peter Anvin et al
[21:31] <Miika--> Not sure if it was exactly that, but much like it at least
[21:33] <Python> format usb drive to fat32 and install again
[21:33] <ikonia> whoaaaa
[21:33] <ikonia> Miika--: is it possible to use a CD ?
[21:36] <uofm49426> is there a update for wpa and kubuntu 11.04
[21:37] <uofm49426> just had to open my network from wondows
[21:37] <uofm49426> just had to open my network from windows
[21:39] <Miika--> Python: It is FAT32
[21:40] <Miika--> ikonia: I tried, with two different CDs
[21:40] <ikonia> Miika--: ok so what happens when you boot from a CD ?
[21:44] <Miika--> ikonia: lots of errors, but I'll try now burning alternate iso to CD... the one I tried was desktop iso
[21:44] <ikonia> Miika--: lots of errors, what sort of thing ?
[21:46] <uofm49426> not sure if its a rt8180 module problem or kubuntu but wouldnt connect with my passphras
[21:46] <uofm49426> wpa
[21:47] <Miika--> i think reading errors... but not sure
[21:47] <Miika--> if those repeat, ill report
[21:47] <ikonia> Miika--: well, if you're having issues with it on cd and usb, it does suggest the image you've downloaded may not be valid
[21:49] <Miika--> I'll leave for now, I try CD I just burned
[21:52] <uofm49426> why cant i lookin to my connect to my router in wpa
[21:53] <uofm49426> passphrass
[21:54] <uofm49426> why cant i loogin to my connect to my router in wpa kubuntu 11.04 rt8185 netgear rounter
[22:01] <uofm49426> #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:47] <soultekkie> can you guyz recommend a good video player for kde...
[23:47] <soultekkie> vlc is good but has some issues with kde
[23:52] <Python> soultekkie: default one
[23:52] <scb> soultekkie: smplayer,
[23:53] <soultekkie> default is dragon
[23:58] <scb> soultekkie: that thing is a joke, just use smplayer.