[00:05] a netbook... with 1.66 ghz and 1 gig of memory... needs a beginner-friendly distro [00:05] Ubuntu or Lubuntu? [00:07] or something else... I see there's a lot of projects, but many seem abandoned [00:07] also, o/ holstein [00:10] kristian-aalborg: lubuntu [00:10] yes, I'm leaning towards that [00:10] She knew what I was going to say :P [00:10] jolicloud seems interesting [00:11] but is it free-free? [00:11] kristian-aalborg: why would you want jolicloud? [00:12] the end user is very much into dropbox and such... [00:12] also, it might look better on the small screen [00:12] PLUS I see there's a windows installer [00:12] and the user wants two OS's [00:13] sounds like your mind is made up [00:25] it's not [00:25] I've installed Lubuntu many times [00:25] and it's very good... so either that or JoliOS, I think [00:28] kristian-aalborg: maybe im biased but im partial to lubuntu [00:29] I have good experiences with that also [00:30] stlsaint: I agree with that, but I also like Xubuntu (For non-lightweight) [00:30] it seems very good also [00:30] Thunar is the bomb [00:30] Unit193: with limited resources i would have to suggest lubuntu [00:30] how good is Dropbox support these days? [00:31] stlsaint: That's why I said non-lightweight ;) I'm not the most fond of Thunar though... [00:31] I'm thinking it might be the same as on Lubuntu [00:31] Unit193, what do you use then? [00:31] I think Nautilus is too heavy, and PCManFM is just not ready yet [00:32] kristian-aalborg: On my Xubuntu installs I do use Thunar, but I like to have pcmanfm [00:33] it's neat... I just seem to have been having all kinds of problems with it lately [00:33] usually works on Lubuntu though, so crossing my fingers [00:34] kristian-aalborg: pcmanfm not ready?? how so? [00:43] hey all [00:44] stlsaint, probably something I did myself... just some weird issues w/ segfaulting and such [00:44] stlsaint, I forgot you're on #lubuntu as well [00:44] that explains the bias ;) [00:44] thewrath: sup man [00:44] stlsaint: nothing much [00:44] kristian-aalborg: yep [00:45] hey do you know how i can determine what a user is using as in what password to connect to my honeypot [00:45] did you not set the user password allowed? [00:46] i have a machine that i have setup a password and in /var/log/secure i see them failing to login [00:46] i am curious to see what passwords taht they are using [00:46] it is a standard openssh server [00:47] i always forget how can i get my voice back in here? the +? [00:48] not sure if i am member of the team anymore [00:48] thewrath: i used logs when i was being attacked to see what was happening [00:49] auth.log should tell you something [00:49] thewrath: did you leave team? [00:49] bodhizazen: o/ [00:50] 'lo stlsaint [00:50] bodhizazen: nm, have you given google+ a go? [00:50] no, what is google+ ? [00:50] bodhizazen: you have gmail account? [00:50] stlsaint: i feel dormate i believe [00:51] google+ = facebook [00:51] but it is closed again stlsaint [00:51] you can not invite anyone right now [00:51] stlsaint: what logs did you use? [00:51] thewrath: not true [00:51] they just closed it again [00:51] thewrath: and google+ is WAY more than facebook [00:51] i tried to invite other people not to long and it did not work [00:51] yep, bodhi.zazen@gmail.com [00:51] my gf can not do it anymore [00:52] thewrath: i am still able to invite folks [00:52] stlsaint: lucky [00:52] thewrath: i just sent one to bodhi [00:53] bodhizazen: google+ == facebook+skype+flickr all rolled into one awesome app [00:53] hmm [00:53] okay [00:53] thewrath, there's a #security here as well, you might want to try that [00:53] stlsaint: it is still in beta or alpha [00:53] thanks kristian-aalborg [00:53] thewrath: still in beta but i have not had any issues with it thus far [00:53] thewrath: /var/log/auth.log [00:53] i have not [00:53] * bodhizazen looks [00:53] i havent either [00:55] bodhizazen: video hangouts with other folks, create your own "circles" to seperate people, immediate uploads of pics, rss feeds called "Stream" feature, plus regular google services still [00:55] stlsaint: how did you set that log up? [00:55] thewrath: no need to set anything up, comes standard [00:55] oh i forget to mention that i am in fedora not ubuntu [00:56] found setting up snort from source was easier :) [00:56] LOL, you know i meant to ask you what distro you running but i just assumed ubuntu [00:56] has anyone set up a honeypot with Ubuntu [00:57] thewrath: well fedora is a HIGH security feature riddled distro, im sure they have logs just as ubuntu does [00:57] yea [00:57] apparently in FC 4 they had that log [00:57] thewrath: i was gonna on one of my servers in a lxc container, then got lazy, then deployed to kuwait! lol [00:58] lxc? [00:58] thewrath: your not using F15? [00:58] no [00:58] i hate really really hate the UI [00:58] are you back from Kuwait [00:58] thewrath: so why not F14? [00:58] I am on 14 [00:58] thewrath: nope still here [00:58] how long are you there for? [00:58] if i may ask [00:58] thewrath: oh ok cause above you said FC 4 [00:58] and what branch of service [00:59] thewrath: i should be home before Xmas [00:59] FC4 is what they said auth.log is in [00:59] army [00:59] that is nice [00:59] cool [00:59] my cousin was in the army [00:59] thank you for serving and thank you [00:59] no prob [00:59] there are worst places you can be.... [00:59] thewrath: much worse!! [01:00] I can name atleast two..... [01:00] thewrath: i would suggest going into the fedora irc but those folks can be frustrating sometimes, best bet is good ol' google [01:00] yea [01:00] i am googling around now [01:01] i would agree with the first part of teh statement [01:01] alright well i was suppose to be in bed over an hour ago so off i go [01:02] thewrath: if you have a server and running fedora i suggest kvm ;) [01:02] later folks [01:03] Fedora + KVM + spice = FTW [01:03] and the #fedora folks are fine, much more professional then #ubuntu, IMO [01:11] lol [01:11] bodhizazen: do you now where that is in fedora [01:11] what thewrath ? [01:12] thewrath, Personally I use F15 + xfce or fluxbox =) [01:13] gnome3 is looking good, but not ready for prime time yet [01:16] what is xfce and fluxbox, [01:16] i have heard them before [01:16] Alternate window managers =) [01:17] http://www.xfce.org/ [01:17] http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/a-5-minute-guide-to-fluxbox/ [01:18] I have been using mainly xfce, fluxbox, or openbox for the last few years. not a big fan of gnome or KDE [01:18] I run gnome in a VM just so I can answer gnome questions [01:19] Fluxbox was very easy to configure in Fedora [01:21] I would post a screen shot, but my background images seem to have naked women in them =) [01:22] thewrath, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/179/200609272321061600x1200scrot3rc3.jpg/ [01:22] that image is safe for work, and from several years ago =) [01:24] bodhizazen: is xfce is just the UI it looks ike [01:24] i have to really look into what flukbox is [01:25] thewrath, http://xwinman.org/ [01:25] Fluxbox is a window manager [01:26] after i said that i had to double check because i have heard of it before [01:26] xfce is a DE - DE = window manager (xfwm4) + panel + applets [01:26] can you use both of them in fedora? [01:26] yes [01:27] cool [01:27] alot of the time i ssh into that server [01:27] thewrath, http://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/ [01:27] okay [01:27] thanks bodhizazen [01:27] bodhizazen: have you used DVL? [01:27] Dam vulnerable inlux ? [01:28] yes [01:28] yes, some time ago [01:28] do you still have v1? [01:28] what did you think of it [01:28] trying to set up a honeypot and some of the guys at work suggested that [01:28] It is sort of technical, and they have not released an updated version in some time [01:29] I would NOT use DVL as a honeypot [01:29] what would you suggest [01:29] honeyd on Fedora =) [01:29] okay [01:29] i have my IDS on my host namechine [01:30] i will have to do honeyd on a VM with fedora [01:30] or could i do it on the machine with my IDS/snort [01:30] i would say seperate them but that is me [01:30] yes more overhead and more processing power but i think it would be better [01:30] thewrath, http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/open-source-honeypots-learning-honeyd [01:31] http://www.honeyd.org/configuration.php [01:32] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321336321?ie=UTF8&tag=honeyd-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0321336321 [01:32] thanks bodhizazen [01:32] i know i have asked this before [01:32] i do not think i am on the team list [01:32] if i want and get my +v back [01:32] do i just e-mail me the team? [01:32] or e-mail the team leadership [01:32] yep [01:32] ok [01:32] although the team is changing [01:32] what do you mean changing? [01:33] structure, leadership? [01:33] thewrath, http://www.honeyd.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1 [01:34] that link i get forum does not exist but that is probably because i do not have a login lol [01:36] how is the team canging [01:37] thewrath, see also : http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/script-kiddie.html [01:43] Mint chocolate chip ice cream sandwich FTW !!! [01:43] lol [01:43] is that the klondik bar? [01:44] no, local brand [01:50] okay === thewrath_ is now known as thewrath [02:16] sorry guys [02:16] i lost my connection [02:16] bodhizazen: what is the email i need to use to email the team leadership/ [08:18] hi [08:48] hi, I need help with WoL. I confugured it and it worked fine. Even at night I could halt and then wake. Now I can't. Server is behind Linksys WRT54G2, ip reserved for 166hrs (but it disappeared from DHCP table, other offline devices didn't) ports 7-9forwarded [10:05] anyone here chatting? [10:09] illdubb40: sup [10:16] stlsaint: trying to figure this whole thing out [10:17] illdubb40: what whole thing out? [10:17] irc chat [10:17] and unity [10:18] oh ok [10:18] you new to ubuntu? [10:19] i've used an earlier 10, but decided i wanted to try again [10:20] illdubb40: 10 as in 9.10, 10.04,10.10, 11.10? [10:20] 10.04 [10:21] ah, one of my favs [10:21] tis what i run now [10:21] I liked it... came back to Ubuntu hoping there would be more to love... [10:21] a little bummed after discovering unity [10:22] ha, i am more than a little bummed lol [10:22] hence i stick to 10.04 [10:23] illdubb40: how did you hear about this channel? [10:24] my good pal google [10:24] to direct a msg at a user do you type "@" or just name with ":"? [10:28] allo [10:28] illdubb40: just type their name :) [10:29] zkriesse thanks [10:29] indeed [10:29] new to irc as you can tell [10:29] i think i might drop back down to 10.04 as well [10:30] same i'm glad i kept my iso disk [10:31] illdubb40, or for pm [private message] or direct message ... /msg [name] [10:32] ok thanks [10:32] i still have to register nick [10:32] how do i spot staff? [10:32] ;) [10:33] staff for? [10:33] Freenode? or here [10:33] freenode [10:33] ah, staff are voice [10:33] ah, staff are voiced [10:34] is that the users with yellow idol looking status markers? [10:34] are they* [10:34] Indeed [10:34] You using XChat? [10:34] yeah [10:34] ah sweet [10:35] I can teach ya a few tweeks [10:35] on xchat? [10:35] * zkriesse uses XChat [10:37] illdubb40, sorry to interrupt - if you do want to pm someone - correct & polite etticate demands that you ask them first [if you don't actually know them] [10:39] suprengr, regarding staff? or users in general? [10:41] illdubb40, regarding anyone really - I have blocked users because they just jumped into a pm to me without permission so many times [10:42] ...and yes, that's something xchat allows you to do very easily [10:42] suprengr, understood... [10:43] np [10:44] are you on xchat as well? [10:44] :) yep [10:45] ok, so the users with yellow markers are who i pm to register nick? [10:45] in freenode room... [10:45] no - the is a nickserve job [10:45] suprengr, I have only experienced that once in a great while; I usually just "!pm > 'Nick'", that usually solves that problem. :-) [10:45] Sidewinder1, ;D [10:46] suprengr, I think most just don't realize that it's a little impolite. [10:48] to register do /msg nickserv help register [10:48] illdubb40: ^^ [10:48] zkriesse thanks [10:48] illdubb40, http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml for the complete method [10:48] indeed [10:48] and since you're on XChat you can do /ns help register [10:49] /ns is short for /msg nickserv lol [10:49] Just out of curiosity, after /ignoring someone, how would one revert back? Unignore, if you will? [10:49] zkriesse, sorry - was typing not looking.. you got there as well [10:50] menu bar at the top, Window -> ignore list [10:50] on XChat anyway [10:51] Thanks zkriesse , will try... [10:53] Unfortunately I don't see any ignore list in my menu bar. :-( [10:54] Sidewinder1: XChat? [10:54] Yes. [10:54] ok, the Window Tab up top, click it [10:54] 2.8.6 [10:54] In that list you'll see "Ignore List" [10:54] Ah, yes, there it is...mant thanks! [10:55] :) not a problem [10:55] many, even. [10:56] haha [10:58] after 10 minutes i'm finally registered...lol thanks for the help [10:58] not a prob [10:59] I'd recommend you set ENFORCE on [10:59] zkriesse: you're making sure I memorize the google homepage eh? lol [11:00] Also, you can add your password to your IRC server settings so that you auto identify [11:00] To nickserv [11:01] XChat -> Network List -> Freenode -> Edit -> Server Password Field -> Put your nickserv password there [11:02] Also, you can edit your IRC server for freenode in there as well. I recommend you make it chat.freenode.net/7000 and Check the boxes "Use SSL for all the servers on this network" and "Accept invalid SSL certificate" [11:03] http://askubuntu.com/questions/6332/prevent-xchat-from-trying-to-join-channels-until-i-have-been-authenticated [11:04] /connect irc.freenode.net 6667 : [11:04] =7000 or 7070 [11:04] leoquant: heya man [11:04] in xchat, this means you put : into the server password box. [11:04] see me on that askubuntu chat room? [11:04] yeah [11:04] :D [11:05] ubuntu answers is a bit less "modern" [11:05] hehe [11:05] ツ [11:06] yeah anyway did ya get that illdubb40 ? [11:07] I should make a post for that on the forum... [11:07] i'm still trying to catch up... [11:07] lol no worries mate [11:07] easiest method is /connect irc...method? [11:07] sasl is nice illdubb40 [11:08] and very easy, see the linkage i gave you [11:08] I still promote what I said! [11:08] lol [11:08] * zkriesse promotes it [11:08] lol [11:08] ok ok [11:10] later [11:10] later bro! [11:10] argh he left [11:10] Yeah ok, so ask away if you need help illdubb40 [11:10] weeeee! F! starts on BBC... me go quiet now [11:10] ok, so it doesn't matter which file i save to xchat dir right? either the py or pl? [11:11] what file [11:11] for sasl [11:11] Oh I have no idea [11:11] or should i used your "promoted" method? [11:11] never used SASL [11:11] lol [11:11] Either one I don't care lol user preference [11:11] I just know my method [11:12] not finding my network list or any type of option box [11:14] XChat Menu Button Top Left hand corner of the xchat screen [11:14] Click that [11:14] Click Network list [11:14] Search for the Freenode server in the list [11:14] Click it then click "EDIT" [11:15] nothing in top left... just minimize, max, etc... [11:16] just chat window is open [11:16] You using 11.04 ubuntu? [11:16] yes [11:16] ah ok [11:17] Well top menu bar, you should see options pop up [11:18] hi all [11:18] coalwater: Yo [11:18] wow... i feel slow right now... i'm not finding it zkriesse [11:18] one sec man :) [11:20] Ok full screen your xchat window [11:20] done [11:21] right to the right of the fullscreen button after minimize/close etc you should see a button called XChat pop up [11:22] put my password in nick? or server? [11:23] zkriesse_: yo [11:24] stlsaint: :) hey man [11:24] illdubb40: Server [11:24] That way you auth to services and don't join/disconnect/rejoin (You won't notice it but others can) [11:25] Did ya edit the freenode connect up at the top? where it says chat.freenode.net/6667 ? [11:25] Change it to chat.freenode.net/7000 [11:25] And don't forget to check the SSL Boxes [11:28] what does changing that do? (in a nutshell) [11:28] Gives ya a Secure Shell Connection [11:29] Prevents your password being sent over the server in plain text format [11:30] done. Thanks zkriesse [11:30] zkriesse: secure socket, not secure shell [11:31] StevenR: indeed [11:32] back...what i miss ?? O_o [11:34] lol [11:45] not losing much if i go back to 10.04 right? [11:45] Not really imo [11:47] I expected 11.04 to have plenty of eye candy for my new graphics card... Wondering why 11.04 could not be installed on my older machine, it seems basic as far as visualizations and such... [11:48] but i am new to ubuntu, so maybe it was wishful thinking. [11:48] I'm definitely a 10.04 guy. :D [11:48] illdubb40, try kde. [11:48] for more eyecandy. [11:49] does it run through unity? [11:49] illdubb40, have you enabled all the important funtions in compiz? [11:49] such as? [11:49] illdubb40, nope. its completely different desktop environment. [11:49] illdubb40, see the compiz docs. [11:50] illdubb40, There's even a #compiz channel, I believe. [11:51] * zkriesse loves Kubuntu [11:54] * Abhijit has wonderful compiz animations!!! :-D [11:57] Abhijiz I can't do much through Unity though correct? or is there still features through compiz w/ unity [11:57] yeah I have no idea about Unity. I am using Lucid. Plane gnome. [11:58] ok, yeah just installed 11.04 hours ago... === coalwater_ is now known as coalwater [15:21] Hello. [15:36] s-fox = silver?? [15:37] Correct. [15:37] hi :) [15:38] been away for a while [15:38] [me that is - & not "away" as in put inside at #HM leisure!] [15:39] * s-fox nods. Perhaps you would like to continue this conversation in #ubuntu-beginners-team ? :) [15:39] hi s-fox [16:37] can someone recommend the best browser to use from the command line === Abhijit_ is now known as Abhijit [16:48] cam_, Elinks, links, links2, lynx-cur or lynx are commonly used [16:53] w3m [16:53] or even telnet :D [17:16] thanks s-fox [17:17] cam_, I would perhaps avoid lynx because I am sure development on it has slowed down . I can't remember where i have read it though [18:41] Does anyone know how to get a Via VT 6410 pci ide card to 'see' ide drives in ubuntu 10.10? === scott__ is now known as scott [18:56] hi, I have a problem with bind9, can't start because permission denied to file /etc/bind/named.conf both - file and cat are 744 and chown -R bind:bind [18:58] Ozik: i dont have bind installed but have you checked the bind9-doc ? [19:04] stlsaint: well no, I just google it. named.conf: -rwxr--r-- 1 bind bind 463 | /etc/bind -> /var/lib/named/etc/bind lrwxrwxrwx 1 bind bind 23 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:36] anyone here have any experience with preseeding installations? [19:37] Neffirithion: i have not myself put i know there is alot of documentation on it if you need help [19:37] I am turning to the chats due to most documentation not helping [19:38] but what is the link in which you refer? maybe it is something I have yet to see [19:38] Neffirithion: honestly i have just seen it wiki pages before some time ago [19:40] Well thanks for responding at least... the folks in #ubuntu don't seem to notice my requests at all [19:41] Neffirithion: sorry i cant help more [20:14]