[15:05] <njin> hello, what do you think about bug 668926 ?
[15:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 668926 in ubuntu "can't resolve domain names starting with a dash (minus sign) (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668926
[15:05] <paultag> njin: as far as bugs go, pretty awesome
[15:06] <paultag> njin: has all the key elements -- making fun of tumblr, citing spec and marking the bug invalid. Tis a good day.
[15:08] <njin> paultag, thanks
[15:08] <paultag> njin: sure thing. I don't see that being fixed, since what they're asking breaks rfc
[15:08] <paultag> sorry :)
[15:10] <stgraber> bind or whatever name server they're using for their domain shouldn't even allow that to start with
[15:11]  * penguin42 wonders if that stuff changed with the internationalised domain name rfcs
[15:11] <stgraber> and I'd think a lot of recursive DNS servers probably consider that invalid
[15:11] <paultag> stgraber: aye
[15:11] <stgraber> penguin42: nope, internationalised domain name still start with alpha
[15:11] <stgraber> penguin42: x-XXXXXXXX.blah.com means it's UTF-8 with XXXXXXXX being whatever encoding they're using for that
[15:12] <penguin42> paultag/stgraber: OK, except for one problem - obviously their DNS server does allow it, and everything in between there and the testers does allow it, and windows and mac allows it
[15:12] <stgraber> the actual storage in the DNS zones still respect the good old RFCs
[15:12] <paultag> penguin42: who cares? :)
[15:12] <penguin42> paultag: The user who can't access his site on Linux
[15:12] <paultag> penguin42: just because they have a broken system does not mean we have to taint our code
[15:12] <paultag> penguin42: so? Sounds like an issue with tublr
[15:13] <paultag> tumblr, rather
[15:13] <paultag> it's like saying "Windows does it" as a reason to drop POSIX standard
[15:13]  * penguin42 doesn't personally have a problem with being more permissive than the standard
[15:14] <paultag> he could add an /etc/hosts entry, I'm sure
[15:14] <paultag> I'm farily sure those can be invalid
[15:17]  * penguin42 bets you can have fun with scripts that pass domain names with -'s passing options to things
[15:25] <xteejx> Hey peeps long time no see!
[15:26] <penguin42> hey
[15:27] <xteejx> I did "pbuilder-dist oneiric creatre" and then "pbuilder-dist oneiric update" but keep getting E: failed to extract /home/teej/pbuilder/oneiric-base.tgz to /var/cache/pbuilder/build//18825 ...is this a bug or me messing up?
[15:27] <xteejx> penguin42: Hey :)
[15:28] <xteejx> btw I did create not creatre :P
[15:28] <penguin42> there was a broken pbuilder bug the other day
[15:28] <penguin42> not sure if it's still around
[15:29] <xteejx> hmmm, have looked on LP but cant find anything, probably wrong keywords
[15:30] <penguin42> I think it ended up being a debootstrap issue
[15:31] <xteejx> ahhh that could make sense :)