[05:34] <rsalveti> did we properly change oneiric to use /run already?
[05:35] <rsalveti> base-files is not creating /var/run anymore, since last update: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/base-files/oneiric/revision/75
[05:35] <rsalveti> and as a side effect packages trying to use /var/run will fail in some way, like described at bug 807974
[05:36] <rsalveti> this is caused because libc6 postinst is trying to touch /var/run/init.upgraded
[05:36] <rsalveti> but /var/run doesn't exist anymore while debootstraping
[05:37] <rsalveti> I believe /var/run will be bind mounted to /run, but I'm still looking to see if this changed is done already
[05:39] <rsalveti> maybe removing the /var/run directory from base-files is wrong anyway, as we'll end up mounting it as bind later on
[05:40] <broder> rsalveti: i think the transition is just incomplete, and not much is likely to happen over the weekend
[05:40] <rsalveti> broder: but do you know if we're planning to have /var/run as a bind mount of /run?
[05:41] <rsalveti> like fedora
[05:41] <broder> i think the intent is to implement the same setup, yes
[05:41] <rsalveti> so we may still need to create the /var/run directory anyway
[05:41] <rsalveti> as it'll still be used, but as a mount point
[05:42] <broder> i couldn't tell you. i think waiting until monday is probably best
[12:30] <zombie-dev> hi im a new coder working on Unity. I got stuck on a few lines of code that seemed important to me but they had been commented out. How would I find when this change (in which version of Unity) had been made and why?
[12:32] <penguin42> zombie-dev: Do you have the bzr checkout of the code?
[12:32] <penguin42> zombie-dev: Do you have the bzr checkout of the code?
[12:33] <zombie-dev> yes
[12:33] <penguin42> zombie-dev: You should be able to do bzr annotate filename
[12:33] <penguin42> zombie-dev: It'll show you the last commit to change each line
[12:34] <zombie-dev> k ill try it
 thankss annotate and log did it fr me
[13:04] <penguin42> no prob
[17:18] <htorque> bryceh: hi, i'm trying to help with bug 807306 but i'm unable to find the package xserver-common (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/2:1.10.2-1ubuntu1/+build/2571970). how would i find it?
[17:34] <penguin42> unfortunately I'm not going to get a chance to try much further through the list on that one - I think I've already done all the obvious ones, and have a feeling it's something like a config file that's not going to get wound back
[17:36] <penguin42> htorque: It's a _all.deb so it's in the i386 build
[17:38] <htorque> penguin42: ah, thanks!
[17:39] <penguin42> htorque: As you can see from that list I rolled a lot of things back; but there are a lot to go and I don't have time to do many more, and am not really sure which ones are worth trying
[17:40] <htorque> penguin42: unfortunately i haven't rebooted for about a week but done (lots of) regular updates :-/
[17:41] <penguin42> htorque: Fortunately it has only happened to my play VM not my laptop that's running OO
[17:43]  * penguin42 thinks it needs a udev guru to suggest some things to try
[20:01] <mwhudson> is there any way i can easily tell if the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/761065 is in the kernel in natty-proposed?
[20:35] <lifeless> mwhudson: install it from -proposed ?
[20:36] <mwhudson> lifeless: i guess
[20:36] <lifeless> or look at the changelog in Launchpad
[20:36] <mwhudson> right, that's here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/linux/2.6.38-10.46
[20:36] <mwhudson> i can't see anything there
[20:37]  * mwhudson wonders how much trouble he would get from just running oneiric kernel
[20:37] <mwhudson> (i guess i like my filesystems too much for that)
[20:37] <lifeless> oh yay win, one bug link. /sob
[20:37] <lifeless> mwhudson: poolie has had fs corruption on oneiric FWIH
[20:44] <mwhudson> oh great
[23:30] <TheMuso> Anybody having problems with sbuild after recent upgrades? I am getting this from sbuild in oneiric: Can't create lock file /var/lock/sbuild: No such file or directory
[23:30] <TheMuso> Sbuild was working fine on Friday.
[23:33] <broder> TheMuso: probably /run-related issues
[23:35] <pook1e> can anyone here help me with a problem i'm having building a package with pbuilder?
[23:40] <TheMuso> broder: hrm ok thanks.