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Laneybah, oneiric schroot broken07:50
Laneystupid /run07:50
aonyxSo, a quick bit of advice is sought. I am editing debian/rules to get a package to build. The changes I make allow the package to build using pdebuild.08:55
aonyxHowever, once I turn those changes into a patch use edit-patch the package no longer builds using pdebuild.08:56
aonyxAny suggestions as to what might cause this?08:56
Ampelbeinaonyx: it would help to see a buildlog.09:04
Ampelbeinaonyx: and for changes to files in debian/ you don't have to make a patch anyway.09:05
Ampelbeinonly for changes to upstream files (outside of debian/)09:05
aonyxAmpelbein: Thanks, well now that I don't have to make a patch my life just got a whole lot easier09:07
tumbleweedaonyx: we use patches (quilt etc) for changes to the upstream code, not the contents of debian/. Those we just change directly10:17
tumbleweedbroder: still looking for a sponsor?10:17
aonyxoki-doki, should have it uploaded soon, jtaylor seemed to think that your initial suggestion was fine so I am doing that.10:19
tumbleweedcool10:21
tumbleweedaonyx: I'd also remove the -lc LDFLAGS addition10:39
jtaylorit should be tested that bug 205783 is not reintroduced somehow10:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 205783 in libpam-encfs (Ubuntu) "pam-encfs fails on upgrade to Hardy" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20578310:40
jtaylortumbleweed: can you ack this sync? bug 80828810:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 808288 in unison2.27.57 (Ubuntu) "Sync unison2.27.57 2.27.57-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80828810:45
aonyxtumbleweed: good point, getting to it now.10:47
tumbleweedjtaylor: acked10:52
aonyxtumbleweed: they're removed now10:59
tumbleweedaonyx: I'd reuse the "Explicitly link to C library" comment for DEBIAN_PAMLIB11:00
aonyxsounds like a good idea11:00
aonyxtumbleweed: done11:08
tumbleweedaonyx: LGTM, thanks. Please forward that to Debian11:10
aonyxwoohoo, will do11:11
directhexRainCT, if you don't want me to NMU mistelix, i'd speak up.12:26
RainCTdirecthex: I'm fine with NMUs (or with mistelix, I'm OK with having it team-maintained)12:29
directhexit's one of the final blockers on completing the 2.10 transiiton12:30
RainCTdirecthex: well, I've no idea what the error is about12:47
directhex... i just worked out an error in mistelix. it's cringeworthy12:49
directhexit uses AC_PATH_PROG to get the MCS variable... but uses hardcoded CSC variable as the compiler instead12:49
jtaylorwhat is the CMAKE equivalent of configure LIBS=... ?13:02
jtaylornoo my experiment has invalidated my ccache :(13:09
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evaluateAny idea why the baltix package was added to bug 791950 ?14:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 791950 in Baltix "Please merge clipit 1.4.1-1 (universe) from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79195014:54
tumbleweedevaluate: baltix is a distribution, not a package. And on +activity, you can see who added it15:07
evaluateHmm? Never heard of baltix...15:08
evaluateWill look it up, thanks!15:08
brodertumbleweed: yeah, i'm still looking, although i'm going to be out for the next several hours, so i might have a delayed response to feedback15:27
tumbleweedbroder: only feedback I have: README is probably worth including, and please bump the changelog timestamp15:27
tumbleweedoh, also I wasn't aware that there was a format for using branch names in Vcs-Git. Are you sure that there is?15:28
broderno! :)15:28
broderi think it's totally underspecified for VCS's that can hold multiple branches at a single URL15:28
broderhmm...i also forgot to check my watch file now that nelson's started tagging releases15:30
tumbleweedbroder: I found a devscripts bug on the subject that was wontfix15:30
tumbleweedah, yeah I seem to recall some mangling was necessary with githubredir15:30
xteejxHi guys, I want to start helping with FTBFS again but have forgotten how to pull source for oneiric into natty....HELP brain not working!15:30
tumbleweedxteejx: pull-lp-source15:31
brodertumbleweed: when i originally packaged this up, nelson hadn't tagged any releases yet, so i was using awesome 0.0.0.git+TIME~etc+more+crud version numbers :)15:31
xteejxtumbleweed: That's the one! Thanks :D15:31
brodertumbleweed: do you think i should drop the branch name and assume people will be able to guess?15:34
tumbleweedbroder: ah, debian bug 50843315:35
ubottuDebian bug 508433 in devscripts "[debcheckout] Impossible to specify branch to checkout" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/50843315:35
tumbleweedno, ubottu, it's won'tfix, closed, and archived. Not open at all15:36
broderheh. ok, i'll drop the branch15:37
broderit'll still be in vcs-browser so hopefully that's enough of a pointer15:37
brodertumbleweed: ok, new packages at http://web.mit.edu/broder/Public/reptyr/15:45
broderbut i do actually have to run now15:45
broderi'll check backscroll when i get back, and thanks for looking :)15:46
tumbleweednp15:46
psusican anyone tell me why this merge is still on hold? https://code.launchpad.net/~psusi/ubuntu/oneiric/dmraid/drop-64bit-pdc/+merge/6013615:49
tumbleweedpsusi: because commenting with a "resumit" review isn't the same as resubmitting the merge proposal15:49
psusiit isn't?15:50
tumbleweedit's ambiguous and confuses people :)15:50
psusiwhat is a resubmit comment then?15:50
tumbleweedas I understand it, it's for a reviewer to say you should resubmit this15:50
psusiisn't that what needs information is for?15:50
tumbleweedI've never seen the point for it, but I think different projects use it differently.15:51
tumbleweedat any rate, what you want is to either change the merge proposal's status back to "Needs review", or click the "resubmit this merge request" button15:51
psusik, got it15:52
xteejxHow do I test build a package? Sorry guys I lost my reference material :S15:54
xteejxdebuild -S ?15:54
psusithat will build the source package... leave off the -S to build both source and binary15:55
xteejxcool thanks :)15:55
xteejxHmm, it's not auto grabbing the build-deps15:56
tumbleweedxteejx: it won't. Are you maybe thinking of pbuilder / sbuild?15:57
xteejxWell I just wanted to test build a package, rule out autobuiler gremlins15:57
xteejx*autobuilder15:58
psusithen you probably want to use pbuilder15:58
xteejxdoh I just remebered15:58
xteejxpbuilder build *.dsc15:58
jtaylorwhy do people not read the warning dh emits :(16:34
jtaylorlibosl.so has no links against its deps16:34
jtaylordh_shlibs detects that16:34
tumbleweedjtaylor: people suck :) (seriously though, dh_shlibdeps was always pretty noisy esp. before --as-needed)16:36
jtayloryes, those "uncessary link" messages mask the important ones16:37
jtaylorunecesary link is really only a warning, but missing link should be an error16:37
Ampelbeinjtaylor: it didn't matter much without --as-needed, if you mean gpsshogi FTBFS. Before --as-needed you just had to pass the libraries to the linker to "fix" this, which is why in debian the build succeeds.16:38
jtaylormissing dependency is a RC bug or?16:38
jtaylorAmpelbein: it does matter as dependencies are missing, that the rdeps build due because they declare there b-d properly does not make it better16:39
jtaylorthats all libosl1 depends on: http://paste.ubuntu.com/641403/16:40
jtaylorand its a 150mb source package ^^16:40
Ampelbeinjtaylor: just saying why this problem didn't show up in debian, not saying it's right.16:41
Ampelbeinand yes, I think missing dependendy is RC bug.16:43
xteejxHi guys, I'm having problems with pbuilder-dist with a debootstrap error, any way to fix this?16:48
jtaylorwhich error?16:51
xteejxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/641410/16:52
xteejx^^ pasted here16:52
xteejxI issued "pbuilder-dist oneiric create" btw16:54
xteejxAny idea what the problem is?16:56
tumbleweedxteejx: that's a known bug16:56
xteejxtumbleweed: Oh right, any way around it for the moment?16:57
tumbleweedbug 80797416:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 807974 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "debootstrap fails to install libc6 installing oneiric from natty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80797416:57
tumbleweedeasy workaround is to mkdir -p /var/run in your target directory before debootstraping16:58
xteejxAh ha! I'll try that now :)16:59
xteejxtumbleweed: It didn't work, I did "mkdir -p /var/run" from ~/sources (where I keep MOTU type stuff) and redone the pbuilder-dist oneiric create but the same error came up17:04
xteejxNot to worry I'm sure it'll be sorted - I'll be back ont eh scene in a couple of weeks and hopefully itll be fixed :)17:04
xteejxThanks again btw17:04
ap0thHello. I'm following http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/packaging-guide/html/getting-set-up.html and getting an error when I run "pbuilder-dist oneiric create"19:01
tumbleweedap0th: known problem, I'm afraid19:02
ap0thoh, ok19:03
tumbleweedyou do raise a point that ubuntu dev week is going to be painful until that's fixed :)19:03
tumbleweedin the meantime, you should be able to create a natty chroot successfully19:03
ap0thI tried "pbuilder-dist natty create" as well w/o luck (on Oneiric alpah 2)19:04
tumbleweedap0th: what was the error you got?19:05
tumbleweedoh, that could be the linux 3.0 issue19:05
ap0th"W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build/14464/. dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-0ubuntu13_i386.deb" then "E: debootstrap failed"19:06
tumbleweedthat's the oneiric debootstrap issue, bug 80797419:07
ap0th(sorry...running in tty1 in Virtualbox because can no longer login after dist-upgrade...so can't really copy-paste)19:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 807974 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "debootstrap fails to install libc6 installing oneiric from natty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80797419:07
ap0thso I need to create a /var/run directory?19:08
tumbleweedin the directory that debotstrap create the chroot in19:09
ap0thpardon my ignorance...but how do I know what directory that is?19:10
tumbleweedyour ignorance isn't out of place here, it can't be predicted :)19:12
ap0thshould I just skip the pbuilder step then?19:13
tumbleweedor wait for this issue to be resolved19:14
tumbleweedhopefully tomorrow morning...19:14
ap0thI installed Oneiric alpha 2 in Virtualbox and did an update/dist-upgrade and now I am no longer able to graphically login to all 3 options (Unity/Unity-2D/Gnome)...getting "failed to load errors at GDM" - any ideas on that?19:15
tumbleweedno idea. but you should probably switch to lightdm which will be the default login manager for oneiric19:16
ap0thmaybe it was lightdm...whatever was default19:16
ap0thIs there a "proper" time to do dist-upgrades? thinking that bonked my system19:17
tumbleweedno. There is occasional breakage, so if you see people mentioning massive problems on IRC / the planet, maybe don't upgrade for a couple of days. Otherwise any time is good19:18
ap0thWould there be anything wrong with setting up an Oneiric pbuilder environment on my Natty system or would I run into the same bugs?19:19
tumbleweedyou'll run into the same bug. natty on natty should work, though19:19
ap0thwould that help me if I just want to get started working on simple bugs?19:21
tumbleweedit'll certainly help you get the feel of how to do things19:21
ap0thok. thanks for your help!19:21
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psusiare there any release managers around that could approve a natty task in bug #675108?20:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 675108 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "gnome-power-manager adds battery to indicator twice when battery hot-unplugged and plugged back in" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67510820:26
stgraberpsusi: accepted for natty20:35
psusistgraber, ty20:35
stgraberpsusi: I'm not sure it's relevant for oneiric as default ubuntu will be using the power indicator and I'm not even sure of what's the state of g-p-m with gnome 3.x20:36
stgraberbut if you're sure it affects Oneiric too (in a gnome 3.x fallback session for example), I'm happy to accept the oneiric nomination too20:37
psusig-p-m seems to have undergone some serious weirdness in oneiric... gnome-power-preferences seems to have gone away, there is no icon, and the new system settings thing shows some sort of configuration that is a much more stripped down version of gnome-power-preferences20:38
psusiI can't confirm that it affects oneiric or not since it doesn't show up at all... so should it still get a task and just leave it new until it can either be confirmed, or invalidated?20:38
stgraberwell, I'm guessing that if you have a task opened for both oneiric + natty the SRU team will expect you to fix it in oneiric first then backport to natty20:39
stgraberwhich isn't really doable in this csae20:39
stgraber*case20:39
psusigood point20:40
stgraberok, I declined it for Oneiric for now. The task can still be re-approved later if needed20:40
stgraberwhich reminded me I wanted to install indicator-power on oneiric :)20:43
stgraberwow, and it even works!20:45
ajmitchyou sound surprised at this20:45
psusidoes that bring back the battery icon?  isn't that a third party thing?  shouldn't gnome-power-manager just work?20:45
stgraberwell, considering how difficult it was to get some kind of battery indicator before, I'm :)20:45
stgraberas I understand it (from some mailing lists post) g-p-m essentially dropped the applet. Gnome shell somehow pokes g-p-m for battery info to display in their UI20:46
stgraberand now unity has an indicator doing the same thing20:46
stgraberhttp://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.powermanager.devel/2144 was the one I was thinking about20:47

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