| _marx_ | ping holstein | 01:22 |
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| holstein | _marx_: yo | 01:23 |
| holstein | im out at the gig right now | 01:23 |
| holstein | just checking in :) | 01:23 |
| _marx_ | thought you might be | 01:23 |
| _marx_ | ping me in the am | 01:23 |
| holstein | am? | 01:26 |
| holstein | like morning? | 01:26 |
| holstein | i dont do mornings ;) | 01:26 |
| holstein | i should be on around noon | 01:26 |
| holstein | maybe a bit earlier | 01:26 |
| _marx_ | yes, i grok that we have different mornings | 01:27 |
| _marx_ | i meant your morning | 01:28 |
| _marx_ | see i'm going to bed in about 20 minutes :) | 01:30 |
| * _marx_ trying to get used to unity | 01:33 | |
| _marx_ | and still just doesn't get it | 01:33 |
| holstein | _marx_: i got a minute right now | 02:38 |
| holstein | im using gnome still, and im planning on using XFCE | 02:39 |
| holstein | thats what ubuntustudio is going to | 02:39 |
| holstein | unity will get better as soon as customizations kick in | 02:39 |
| holstein | which'll be soon | 02:39 |
| holstein | i think the idea of it is great, and im glad ubuntu has its own thing | 02:40 |
| holstein | im not planning on using it | 02:41 |
| holstein | i was a little dissapointed when i actually tried unity and gnome3 | 02:41 |
| holstein | i feel like its a bit more of a duplication of effort than is necessary | 02:41 |
| * BugeyeD updating lapdance to 11.04 now, will see what this unity thing is all about. assuming it will run on my 2005 centrino hardware. | 02:53 | |
| BugeyeD | unity is rock bottom on the one desktop machine i tried it on before; i don't build boxes with nice graphics because i'm accustomed to staring an an xterm. | 02:53 |
| BugeyeD | every update thus far has broken video for me, so i fully expect more of the same. | 02:54 |
| holstein | unity is actually pretty light weight | 03:03 |
| holstein | not like LXDE light... but light-ish | 03:03 |
| holstein | and theres a 2d version i havent tried yet | 03:04 |
| BugeyeD | i'm sure the 2d would be required in my case | 03:04 |
| BugeyeD | gotta go find something else to do ... what few hairs i have left are getting ever more grey watching the upgrade process ... | 03:05 |
| holstein | yeah... i spent about 24hours waiting one 11.10 to upgrade, and now its not booting ;) | 03:06 |
| BugeyeD | mine came back. video looks ok so far, so i'm a little shocked. | 03:23 |
| BugeyeD | 'ubuntu' complains that i don't have hardware for unity, and sends me to 'classic mode' which is just gnome. | 03:24 |
| BugeyeD | also have 'netbook edition 2d' which appears to be what i was running before - probably something i installed myself and is left over from prior to the upgrade. | 03:24 |
| holstein | yeah, you need to install unity2d afterwards | 03:24 |
| BugeyeD | holstein: yup, 'unity-2d' did it. seems to be a decent thing to include by default. | 03:33 |
| holstein | well, you would think it would default to unity2d instead of gnome | 03:34 |
| holstein | i think thats the idea going forward | 03:34 |
| holstein | those are really 2 totally different things though | 03:34 |
| holstein | i cant imaging them maintaing them both for very long | 03:34 |
| BugeyeD | yep. thanks for the pointer. probably wouldn't have googled it, would have just gone without. at least now i get to see it. | 03:34 |
| holstein | i think it'll just be normal unity, and you'll have to tweak if you dont have 3d | 03:34 |
| holstein | they look and act the same though AFAIK | 03:35 |
| BugeyeD | where are the prefs? trying to figure out keyboard shortcuts and can't seem to find my own arse ... | 04:01 |
| holstein | BugeyeD: hang on... | 04:02 |
| BugeyeD | of course. found it *right* after i asked ... | 04:02 |
| BugeyeD | it shows up under 'all apps' | 04:03 |
| holstein | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html | 04:03 |
| holstein | i was using that when i was trying to stay in unity for a bit | 04:03 |
| BugeyeD | i hope i'm missing something here - that's an unintelligent way to get there | 04:03 |
| holstein | i just set that as my wallpaper | 04:04 |
| BugeyeD | heh | 04:04 |
| BugeyeD | looking a lot like osx | 04:11 |
| BugeyeD | not a bad thing from a desktop perspective. | 04:11 |
| BugeyeD | the background image thing is a good idea, but some of the hints don't appear to work for me, such as auto-tiling and such. | 04:19 |
| holstein | BugeyeD: they could be different from 2d to 3d | 04:19 |
| holstein | which would be just slackness i think | 04:20 |
| _marx_ | holstein: is it mid-morning yet? | 19:18 |
| * _marx_ has log files going back to '07 | 22:40 | |
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