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Kilosmorning everyone09:03
KilosMaaz, coffee on09:03
* Maaz washes some mugs09:03
SquirmMaaz: coffee please09:04
MaazSquirm: Sure09:04
Squirmmorning09:04
Kiloshi Squirm 09:05
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and Squirm!09:07
KilosMaaz, ty09:08
MaazEnjoy Kilos09:08
SquirmMaaz: thanks09:30
MaazSquirm: Okay :-)09:30
kbmonkeyhello there peeps10:00
Kiloshiya kbmonkey 10:00
kbmonkeyit is going well Kilos? 10:00
Kilosyes ty and there kbmonkey 10:00
kbmonkeybaie goed thanks!10:01
Kilosmooi man10:01
kbmonkeyI am trying to get my hp wireless printer to work, but it's a lazy Sunday!10:02
Kiloslol10:02
kbmonkeyI find Google calculator so useful, what I'd do without it10:03
* nlsthzn waves13:45
* Kilos waves back to nlsthzn 14:09
nlsthznHey uncle Kilos :)14:10
nlsthznbai14:42
Kiloshi Guest36050 15:54
Kiloshey superfly you ready for another week at the saltmine15:56
superflyKilos: not yet, I still want to enjoy my Sunday evening :-P15:56
Kiloslol15:56
Kilosgo sleep early15:56
inetprogood evening17:15
inetproMaaz: coffee on17:16
* Maaz starts grinding coffee17:16
Kiloslo inetpro 17:16
KilosMaaz, coffee please17:16
MaazKilos: Okay17:16
inetprohallo Kilos17:17
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!17:20
inetproMaaz: danke17:20
MaazBitteschön17:20
KilosMaaz, thanks man17:20
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)17:20
kbmonkeyMaaz, coffee please man17:21
Maazkbmonkey: Huh?17:21
inetprohmm...17:21
kbmonkeyMaaz, coffee please!17:21
Maazkbmonkey: There isn't a pot on17:21
Kiloslol17:21
kbmonkeyMaaz, coffee on17:21
* Maaz starts grinding coffee17:21
kbmonkeyhello all, I'm in serious need of coffee :)17:21
inetproKilos: should that not be 'man thanks' ? :-)17:21
Kiloswhy?17:21
kbmonkeyha ha yes you're right inetpro 17:21
Kiloswhere you went to school17:22
kbmonkeyever tried to exec 'man woman'? ;p17:22
Kilosdankie man. must that be man dankie?17:22
Kilosoh17:22
Kilosheee hee hee17:22
Kilosim slow17:22
Kilosforgot manuals17:23
kbmonkeyman is where the acronym 'rtfm' originated :)17:23
Kilosthis is irc not cli17:23
* inetpro lol17:23
Kiloslets see what the bot says17:24
KilosMaaz, man thanks17:24
MaazKilos: Manpage not found17:24
Kiloslol17:24
KilosMaaz, man irc17:25
MaazKilos: Manpage not found17:25
kbmonkeythe bsdgames package has a app called 'wtf'17:25
MaazCoffee's ready for kbmonkey!17:25
kbmonkeyMaaz, you are the best, thanks!17:25
Maazkbmonkey: I already know stuff about you17:25
Kiloshehe17:25
kbmonkeywhat stuff? who told you? you're scaring me Maaz 17:25
kbmonkeythere is no place like ~17:26
KilosMaaz, define you17:26
MaazKilos: thou \thou\ ([th]ou), pron. [Sing.: nom. {Thou}; poss. {Thy} ([th][imac]) or {Thine} ([th][imac]n); obj. {Thee} ([th][=e]). Pl.: nom. {You} (y[=oo]); poss. {Your} (y[=oo]r) or {Yours} (y[=oo]rz); obj. {You}.] [OE. thou, [thorn]u, AS. [eth][=u], [eth]u; akin to OS. & OFries. thu, G., Dan. & Sw. du, Icel. [thorn][=u], Goth. [thorn]u, Russ. tui, Ir. & Gael. tu, W. ti, L. tu, Gr. sy`, Dor. ty`, Skr. tvam. [root]185. Cf. {Thee}, {Thine}, 17:26
Kilossjoe17:26
* kbmonkey *blinks*17:27
kbmonkeyMaaz, define rtfm17:34
Maazkbmonkey: RTFM /R?T?F?M/, imp.  [Unix] Abbreviation for ?Read The Fucking Manual?.  1. Used by {guru}s to brush off questions they consider trivial or annoying. Compare {Don't do that then!}.  2. Used when reporting a problem to indicate that you aren't just asking out of {randomness}. ?No, I can't figure out how to interface Unix to my toaster, and yes, I have RTFM.? Unlike sense 1, this use is considered polite. See also {FM}, {RTFAQ}, {R17:34
Kiloslol17:34
Kilosdoes Stevethepirate  ever say anything17:42
Kilosand Guest36050 17:42
Kilosor are they pro lurkers17:42
kbmonkeyif they were pro their nicks would be hidden ;)17:44
kbmonkeyyou like queen, Kilos ?17:45
Kilosthe group?17:45
Kiloswe are the champions17:45
kbmonkeyYes, Bohemian Rhapsody17:45
kbmonkeyever seen that song performed by a dot matrix printer? -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht96HJ01SE417:46
Kilosum freddie mercury17:46
Kilosaw i cant go see kbmonkey 17:46
kbmonkeyawe :(17:47
Kiloslol17:47
Kilosyeah kinda sucks17:47
Kilosi hope those free the web guys on facebook get something right one day17:48
Kiloslast i heard they said its a human right to have free internet access17:48
Kilosmaybe i not human17:48
kbmonkeyhey, yes I agree with them! he he17:49
kbmonkeyhear that Telkom, it's our right to free internets!17:49
* kbmonkey hopes a Telkom rep is lurking here17:49
Kiloslol17:49
Kiloseven that wont work17:50
kbmonkeyTelkom maybe they will pick up the message if we Telkom use their name ranomdly Telkom17:50
Kilostelkom cables were stolen here months ago and they not replacing17:50
Kilosthey want peeps to use 8ta or satelite but only on contract17:51
Kilosnot pay as you go17:51
Kilosswines17:51
kbmonkeyand they only upgrade areas to support dsl iff there are enough potential clients - ie only where it benefits them17:52
Kilosyip17:52
Kilosdie geld god het oor geneem17:52
kbmonkeyif you do that, at least don't be hypocrites in your advertisements about it ;D17:53
Kilosi wonder if there are telkom peeps here17:53
kbmonkeyllisten to us, we sound like someone else on here who rants about hellkom he he.17:53
Kiloslol17:53
Kiloshmm i see i dont have my country in my info18:04
Kilosdunno how i missed that and dunno how to fix it from xchat18:04
Kilosyou too kbmonkey country unknown18:08
Kiloswe doff18:08
kbmonkeylol18:08
Kilosbeen here 60 years and dunno where i am18:08
kbmonkeyi guess we can ask nickserv18:08
Kiloswhen i first came on here i was miles but someone stole my nick before i knew how to register it18:09
kbmonkeyawe :(18:10
Kiloswas actually funny how the guys here helped choose and register kilos18:10
kbmonkeyah, they registered it over 3 years ago. 18:10
kbmonkeyoh, how so?18:10
Kiloswe couldnt find a good nick18:11
Kilosthen the tannie next door said kilos cause she always mocked i wasnt metricated18:11
Kilosi was really doff18:12
kbmonkeyha ha! I like that story18:12
Kilosthe whole nick thing was new to me18:12
Kilosthen the pro i think helped me register it18:12
kbmonkeyI wanted monkey, but there is already one18:12
Kilosor the fly18:13
Kilosits as bad as email addresses18:13
Kiloswhat a job18:13
Kiloskbmonkey goes down well18:14
Kilosfits with you liking cli so much18:14
Kilosim sure i really frustrated the guys in the beginning18:15
Kilosthey couldnt believe someone thats online can be so doff18:16
Kiloshad to blog to show them why18:16
Kiloslol18:16
Kilosmemories18:16
Kiloseven had to get help to set up my blog18:17
Kilosinetpro, onthou jy18:17
kbmonkeyI bet you are not doff Kilos, there's just so much info, its hard for anyone to know where to start!18:18
Kilosum18:18
* inetpro lol18:19
Kilosi forget what i learn overnight18:19
Kilosjulle het gesukkel met my nê inetpro 18:19
inetproKilos: nie so baie nie18:20
Kilosbaie18:20
Kilosek het myself gevloek partykeer18:20
=== kbmonkey is now known as apie
Kiloslol18:21
apielol18:21
inetproKilos: your intelligence far outweighs your loss of memory18:21
Kilosnee man18:21
Kilosstubborness18:22
Kilosbut i have had a great time here18:22
Kilosand as i say this is my home18:22
apieno place like /~18:22
Kilosonly vodacom interferes sometimes18:22
apiedo you play games Kilos?18:23
apieand inetpro too?18:23
Kilosi have played aoe2 and red alert118:24
apiewow that's neat, you can group new nicks with your existing account, so you can just switch between nicks :D18:24
Kilostried wine but it crashed my pc18:24
Kilosso gave up18:24
* inetpro is not a real gamer18:24
inetprogames waste to much time18:25
apiemy wine audio is buggered so Im not going to bother fixing it. I like puzzle games more than shooters18:25
Kilosbut with data shortages i have become a master at freecell and mahjong18:25
Symmetriahahahah oh man... 18:26
Symmetriasome of the people on irc are so stupid18:26
apiegood card games those18:26
Kiloswhat now Symmetria 18:26
Symmetria[20:16] <wizzr> julie101010: i got a shell on the machine o_O18:26
Symmetria[20:16] <wizzr> that didn't take long18:26
Symmetria[20:24] <\DSAFEW\> tony23, limiting access in the system, like with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux#Implementations18:26
Symmetria[20:25] <tony23> i'm on windows. FML18:26
apiehope Symmetria isn't talking of us :/ eeek18:26
Symmetria:P one guy claiming to have hacked some other guys machine and got a shell on it18:26
Symmetriaand then the other guy goes "I'm on windows"18:26
inetproapie: my kids enjoy supertuxkart18:27
SymmetriaLOL now, the guy who claimed to have haxed it and got a shell, must feel like a real tosser 18:27
Kiloshehe @ apie 18:28
Kiloswe safe18:28
inetproapie: oh and supertux is also a lot of fun18:28
Symmetrialol I wasnt referring to anyone in here :P18:28
Kiloslol18:28
apiewe know Symmetria, just pulling your leg ;)18:28
apiethat's why I like reading bash.org -- some realy stupid comments there18:29
Symmetriaoh wow, my sourceforge mirror copy from one array to another finally finished18:29
Symmetriait only took 3.5 days 18:29
apieyou mirrored sourceforge locally?18:29
Kiloslol18:29
Symmetriaapie heh, ummm ages ago18:29
Symmetriathis time I was just copying it to another array to move stuff around on mirror.ac.za 18:29
Symmetriaapie, go download vlc and you'll see, it comes off a .za mirror :P18:30
apie+100 internets to you!18:30
Symmetriainfact, download anything from sourceforge and you'll see it comes from tenet18:30
Symmetriatotal size is 1306604975062218:30
inetproapie: I liked your old nick more 18:30
Symmetriaheh18:30
Symmetriadamn its 2 bloody big18:30
Symmetriaheh 12186 gigs worth of sourceforge18:31
apiehey it is too Symmetria, nice!18:31
inetproSymmetria: that's only like 12 TB18:31
apiea nice red logo18:31
drubinSymmetria: Wait till you start mirroring fb images.18:31
Kiloshiya drubin howzit18:32
inetprodrubin: wb18:32
drubinthanks and I am good. en jy oom Kilos ?18:32
Kilosgoed dankie drubin 18:32
apiehi there drubin 18:35
Kilosapie when you found where to do the nick thing is there a place you can add your country18:36
apietalk about bad judgement Symmetria http://bash.org/?1618:36
apieno Kilos, I tried to set a meta property but it doesnt seem to work18:37
Kilosmaybe inetpro knows18:37
Kilosoh18:37
Kiloshes a quassel guy18:37
SymmetriaLOL apie18:38
inetprohmm.... what are you guys trying?18:38
Kilosi think you can only do that when you register at irc or freenode18:38
Kilosto add your country to your info18:38
Kilosyou also dont know where you are18:38
inetproapie: am I missing something here? What's the country thing you want to add?18:40
Kilosum18:41
Kilosif you look at someones nick it gives his/her name and country etc18:41
apieI think Kilos means in xchat your rmb a user name and the country shows as unknown18:41
Kilosrmb?18:42
apiebut I suspect this country is detected by your IP - which should indicate ZA 18:42
inetproKilos: I gues you're talking about ghosting18:42
inetproguess*18:42
apiermb: right mouse button18:42
Kilosno man18:42
apieno not ghosting18:42
Kilosi see your name and quassel@unafiliated by you but unknown by country18:43
apieKilos, I think that's just xchat.18:43
Kilosquassel@unaffiliated/hibana18:43
apieah, maybe inetpro can help explain why he is unaffiliated, while some of us have IP addresses?18:44
Kiloslike Squirm shows south africa18:44
inetprohmm... I guess squirm comes from a registered IP18:45
Kilosmaybe18:45
Kilosno serious i spose18:45
apieah, inetpro probably has a hostname cloak enabled18:45
inetproahh sorry, that is what I meant18:46
inetproKilos: you see, even my memory is worse than yours18:46
Kiloslol18:46
Kilossay what you mean dont mean what you say18:47
Kiloshehe18:47
inetproapie: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks18:47
apieKilos, http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=80018:47
apiedankie inetpro :)18:48
inetproapie: see also http://blog.freenode.net/2009/01/the-beauty-of-freenode/18:51
Symmetriaheh18:51
Symmetriahostname cloaking/masking/spoofing is not something I'm a fan of18:51
inetproSymmetria: why?18:52
Symmetriaits something we've resisted implementing on efnet for yearssss18:52
Symmetriainetpro because heh, it leaves the servers getting attacked18:52
Symmetriarather than the users who piss people off :P18:52
Symmetriathe moment you cloak the hostnames, you remove the need for the user to have some responsibility and not irritate people18:52
Symmetriaand then when the kiddies dont like the user, they attack the server he's on instead18:53
inetprocloaks do not provide an absolute guarantee that your hostname will hidden18:53
apieno it doesnt inetpro18:53
Symmetriaheh, yes, but it gives the kiddies just one more excuse to hit the servers, trust me, we've seen it time and again on efnet, the servers that DO spoof the names of some of their users are ALWAYS the ones to get hit first18:53
Symmetria:) but like I said, thats just an irc admin perspective, I understand the user perspective as well18:54
apieconsidering so many people record chat logs, with your IP, and others use web clients, maybe on win machines, there so much exposure involved.18:55
Symmetriaheh there is no such thing as being truely anonymous on the internet 18:57
Symmetriahell, most people dont realize that the dsl providers even log your CLI when you connect 18:57
Symmetriaits a standard radius line 18:57
Tonberrycli?18:58
Tonberrycaller line id?18:59
Tonberryor command line interface?18:59
apieand most people dont realize that email is like postcards - anyone with access to the deliver van (and some who dont!) can read them18:59
drubinapie: Lies I have a password on my gmail account.19:00
SymmetriaTonberry caller line id19:00
Symmetriathe moment you auth a dsl, the phone number is logged 19:01
Tonberrywell gmail with https should be slightly harder to intercept19:01
Tonberrymakes sense19:01
drubinTonberry: No. it isn't.19:02
apietrue Tonberry, but remember your email bounces between various server on its trip, and each node presents it's own problem.19:02
Tonberryagreed19:02
Tonberryany part that still uses traditional smtp is easy to intercept19:02
apieimap for the win :)19:03
Tonberryis imap used between mailservers?19:03
apieI was telling Kilos the other day, we need to start a pgp movement for email19:03
Kiloslol19:04
Tonberryor just give up on email19:04
Kilosthat thing is still driving me nuts19:04
apiebut then our heads spun from all the tech jargon ;P19:04
apieI think everyone should make some test, temporary keys and get to send another data to see how it works19:04
apietest data ofc19:05
Tonberryi think the security of pgp is not in question19:06
apieusing my IP I see on freenode I can nmap my line and see there are open ports. I wonder what they are for...19:06
Kilosits just very hard to setup Tonberry 19:06
Tonberrywhat ports?19:06
apie1,2,6,17,13219:07
Tonberrywow19:07
Tonberrynever seen any of those used19:07
apiesays there more, it only shows the interesting ones19:07
apieinteresting. port 17 is a Quote of the day port.19:09
apieMaaz, define QOTD19:10
Maazapie: I don't know about QOTD. Maybe you meant eotd?19:10
KilosMaaz, google QOTD19:11
MaazKilos: "Quotes of the Day - qotd.org" http://www.qotd.org/ :: "Quotes of the Day - The Quotations Page" http://www.quotationspage.com/qotd.html :: "QOTD - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QOTD :: "Queen of the Damned (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_Damned_(film) :: "QOTD - John Paczkowski - Social - AllThingsD" http://allthingsd.com/20100903/qotd-334/ :: "QOT19:11
apieshould we see what is open on your line Kilos? this is intriguing.19:15
Kilosexplain please19:15
Kilosbut go for it19:15
Kilospush me through a port at voda that doesnt use my data19:16
Kilosthen i be very happy19:16
nuvolariol oom Kilos 19:17
nuvolarinaand apie19:17
Kiloslo nuvolari 19:17
nuvolari*lo oom Kilos 19:17
nuvolariek meen :P19:17
Kiloslol19:17
Kilosis jy nog oppie foon19:17
nuvolarija nee oom19:18
nuvolarimoet dalk nou try19:18
nuvolaridie service was nou nou af19:18
Kiloseish19:18
nuvolaridalk het hulle iets gedoen19:18
nuvolariof nie19:19
nuvolari>:((((((19:19
nuvolariargh!19:19
Kilosuh oh19:20
Kilosapie died19:20
Kilosapie, wb19:21
apiety19:21
Kiloswhat did you mean apie 19:21
Kilosshould we see what is open on your line Kilos? this is intriguing.19:21
apieso I installed gufw (firewall) and now nmap shows all 1000 ports as closed.19:21
Kilosoh i have gufw as well19:22
Kilosmust i turn it off19:22
Kiloslol19:26
inetprohmm... he isolated himself from the world?19:28
Kiloslol19:28
Kiloswb apie 19:28
Kilosyou gonna crash you system now now19:29
apiecrash? nee oom, die is Linux ;)19:30
Kilossjoe19:30
apiebeen having some line issues lately though19:30
nuvolaribleh19:32
nuvolaritelkom apie ?19:32
nuvolariek is seker vodacom en telkom is kop in een mus19:33
Kiloslol19:34
apieIm on Afrihost dsl but telkom line -- so spot on 19:35
apieTelkom so sneaky - I told my dad all bout which dsl package he can look at - 19:35
apieand telkom sneakily got him signed up to one of their contracts. eish.19:36
Kilosthey are all skelm19:36
Kilosi complained about a weak connection. gave them voda tower address and mine19:36
Kilosthey say they upgrading and gave address of new tower19:37
Kilosits 5 ks further inna straight line from here19:37
Kilosand no matter how many times i say this one was working fine it makes no diffs19:38
Kilosthey think everyone is office jacks19:38
Kilosbullshit baffles brains kinda attitude19:40
nuvolarihaai sies oom19:52
* nuvolari gets the soap19:52
Kiloswat19:52
Kiloslol19:52
Kiloshee hee19:53
* nuvolari wash out the oom's mouth19:53
Kilosdaar is nie n mooi manier om dit te sê nie19:53
* nuvolari is geneig om saam te stem19:54
apieha ha nuvolari i know what that tastes like!!!19:54
nuvolarilol apie 19:54
* apie yuck19:54
nuvolarifor real?19:54
* nuvolari never got pepper/soap/kasterolie/other stuff in his mouth19:54
apieja my ma het nie k** gevat toe ge stoutgat was -- en dit was gereeld nogal19:54
Kiloslol19:55
nuvolaribwahaha19:56
Kilosmethinks bed time for toppies20:04
Kilossleep tight and warm all of you20:04
Kilossee ya morrow20:05
=== apie is now known as kbmonkey

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