[18:12] <lafon> how can i connect my ubuntuone account to my computer?
[18:13] <jo-erlend> lafon, run ubuntu one client and log in?
[18:14] <lafon> the client doesn't open up the browser to do that
[18:14] <lafon> In fact what I'm really wondering is how do i login
[18:15] <jo-erlend> I don't remember if it opened my browser at all when I connected for the first time here. I don't think so?
[18:16] <lafon> oh. so what you are saying is that i need to go to the application panel: name>Ubuntu One...
[18:18] <jo-erlend> I don't understand exactly what that means, but yes, you run the application called Ubuntu One.
[18:18] <jo-erlend> then you click on "I already have an account" and it'll ask you for your passord and email.
[18:18] <jo-erlend> I just tried it in a guest account to be sure.
[18:19] <karni> lafon: Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:19] <lafon> 10.04
[18:19] <karni> lafon: Have you logged in before?
[18:19] <jo-erlend> lafon, ah. That's relevant. I'm using 11.04.
[18:19] <karni> lafon: Or is it this the first time you log in to U1
[18:19] <karni> jo-erlend: ;)
[18:19] <lafon> not on this computer. its been a few years
[18:20] <lafon> 2 maybe
[18:20] <karni> lafon: So you haven't logged in on this computer before?
[18:20] <lafon> nope
[18:20] <karni> o
[18:20] <karni> ok
[18:20] <lafon> last time was on 7.10
[18:20] <karni> Open:
[18:20] <karni> System -> Preferences -> Ubuntu One -- can you see it there?
[18:20] <lafon> yup
[18:20] <lafon> and opened
[18:21] <karni> lafon: Can you click to _log in_ ?
[18:21] <lafon> no such button
[18:21] <karni> lafon: It should open the browser.
[18:21] <lafon> yeah that doesn't happen
[18:21] <karni> lafon: please open seahorse (You can use: Alt+F2 type in seahorse and Enter)
[18:21] <lafon> I tried that before and waited for half an hour
[18:21] <karni> lafon: and make sure you don't have "ubuntu one" entry in there
[18:21] <karni> lafon: no need to wait so long.
[18:22] <lafon> btw what is Desktop Couch?
[18:22] <karni> lafon: If you somehow do have Ubuntu One entry in seahorse, please delete it.
[18:22] <lafon> nope no ubuntuone entry
[18:22] <karni> lafon: It's a database software that sits on users computer, it supports replciation so it can sync data with U1 (like, bookmarks)
[18:23] <karni> lafon: All right. What do you see when you open the Sys -> Prefs -> Ubuntu One?
[18:23] <lafon> so does everyone have two of them?
[18:23] <lafon> The ubuntu one preferences window
[18:23] <karni> lafon: Desktop Couch is a software. CouchDB is the database. And there's a corresponding CouchDB database on the server, if the uses uses it, yes.
[18:23] <karni> lafon: Can you go to 'Devices' seciton?
[18:23] <karni> *section
[18:23] <jo-erlend> any ideas how I can get my contacts soon? It's important to me and I really don't want to copy them by hand.
[18:23] <lafon> yup
[18:24] <karni> lafon: I know it's that window. I mean what is in that window :)
[18:24] <karni> lafon: Interesting. Then you have your U1 configured already. You would not see it otherwise.
[18:24] <lafon> <LOCAL MACHINE>
[18:24] <karni> lafon: Click delete next to it (or 'Remove')
[18:24] <lafon> limit bandwith
[18:24] <lafon> can't
[18:24] <karni> jo-erlend: Please come back tomorrow and ask rye, he'll know better.
[18:24] <karni> lafon: can't?
[18:24] <lafon> the only buttons are connect and restart
[18:25] <karni> lafon: try connect
[18:25] <karni> lafon: if you have no U1 in seahorse, it doesn't have your credentials
[18:25] <karni> so it should ask you to log in in the end.
[18:25] <lafon> alright
[18:25] <karni> lafon: I'll be back in 2min
[18:25] <lafon> so the connect box has been greyed out
[18:29] <karni> lafon: type this in the terminal and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com: u1sdtool --status
[18:29] <karni> or: u1sdtool -s
[18:29] <karni> (same command)
[18:31] <lafon> karni:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/641448/
[18:31] <karni> lafon: try u1sdtool --connect , wait short moment, and paste u1sdtool --status again
[18:32] <lafon> status is identical
[18:33] <karni> lafon: Are you using default NetworkManager to manage your connection or something else, like WiCD ?
[18:33] <lafon> no its a dial-up connection so wvdial
[18:34] <karni> lafon: Probably U1 this there's no network connection. It bases on NM to track network. I'm not 100%, please come back tomorrow and ask again. There will be support guys around :)
[18:35] <lafon> ok
[18:35] <lafon> so can i remove networkmanager without damaging my system?
[18:38] <jo-erlend> if you don't use network-manager, then you can remove it. You can always reinstall it later if you want to.
[18:48] <karni> lafon: ↑ true. But I think it's a U1 dependency.
[18:48] <karni> Which theoretically is a bug, but.. Not something I want to talk about right now :)
[18:48] <lafon> does look like it. i uninstalled and u1 doesn't even startup
[18:49] <lafon> so i need to reinstall, and find a way to disable rather than remove
[19:00] <lafon> huh. just used firefox for an unrelated reason and i got the message that it was already running
[19:45] <dobey> karni: it is not a dependency
[19:46] <karni> dobey: doesn't U1 require NM ?
[19:46] <dobey> no
[19:46] <dobey> it assumes there is network, if there isn't a networkmanager to talk to
[19:46] <karni> dobey: cool
[19:46] <karni> thanks
[19:47] <karni> I'll know next time.