[01:27] <JeZ-l-Lee> running Xubuntu 11.04 - in Thunar file manager, how do I search for files??
[01:28] <knome> search for files in the currect directory or on the computer?
[01:28] <JeZ-l-Lee> current directory
[01:28] <knome> type
[01:29] <JeZ-l-Lee> thats not what I need - how to search for say all *.DOC files in a folder
[01:30] <knome> there is no such feature - try catfish
[01:30] <JeZ-l-Lee> ugg, kind of an important feature
[01:30] <knome> free to file a wishlist bug.
[01:31] <JeZ-l-Lee> what is catfish?
[01:31] <knome> it's an application that *drumroll* searches for files, which is what you are asking
[01:33] <JeZ-l-Lee> that works, thanks
[01:33] <JeZ-l-Lee> its already installed
[01:33] <knome> yes
[03:01] <Phosphenes> What's the difference between a VPN and a proxy?
[03:21] <Phosphenes> hmm
[03:21] <Phosphenes> $VPN
[03:21] <Phosphenes> nope
[03:21] <Phosphenes> lol
[03:21] <Phosphenes> !VPN
[03:21] <Phosphenes> there
[06:52] <Jacktachat> bonjour je cherche un peu d'aide
[08:50] <john> Hi all.  Got a question about Skype on xubuntu...anyone about to help?
[08:51] <Sysi> ask your question and see if somebody pops ouy with an ansver
[08:51] <Sysi> *out
[08:54] <john> ok cheers
[08:55] <john> running 2.6.32-32-generic with Skype 2.2 but buggered if I can get the webcam to work (Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08da Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messanger)
[08:55] <john> google video works though
[08:55] <john> but nothing through skype
[08:56] <john> any ideas?
[12:21] <ikrit> is there a way to restore xubuntu to default settings?
[15:56] <changeth1s> am I on?
[18:28] <Drone4four> i accidentally removed the item on my xfce panel which had the wifi connection icon.....
[18:28] <Drone4four> now there is no way for me to connect to my wirless network
[18:29] <Drone4four> i looked everywhere in Add New Items, but can't find the app
[18:29] <Drone4four> what app should i be looking for
[18:29]  * Drone4four pokes #xubuntu 
[18:29] <Drone4four> should I also be asking in #xfce?
[18:30] <pleia2> Drone4four: it should be the network manager applet, lemme see..
[18:31] <pleia2> Drone4four: you want "notification area"
[18:32] <Drone4four> pleia2, i found the Notification Area entry in the Add New Items but it is greyed out and I can't Add it
[18:32] <pleia2> hm, odd
[18:32] <aatk> It's probably already there
[18:32] <aatk> alt+f2 then type nm-applet and press enter
[18:34] <Drone4four> when I type nm-applet at the command line, it says, "An instance of the nm-applet is already running."
[18:34] <aatk> open a term, 'killall nm-applet' and try it again
[18:37] <Drone4four> aatk, pleia2:  after i killall nm-applet and retype nm-applet, it seems to hang with the error saying "(nm-applet:1878): DEBUS: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0"
[19:07] <aatk> Drone4four: have you tried rebooting your machine?
[19:07] <aatk> or logging out/in?
[19:18] <Drone4four> aatk, i rebooted and that fixed the problem...ty pleia2 + aatk
[19:29] <aatk> cool, glad it works now :)
[19:49] <moxyr> Are there some people here who can help me debug a boot delay issue
[19:49] <moxyr> it tried the ubuntu-boot channel, but nobody except the logbot was there
[19:50] <aatk> maybe, what's up?
[19:50] <Sysi> try installing bootchart and see images it makes
[19:50] <moxyr> tried bootchart but the delay is after grub has finished and before init runs
[19:51] <moxyr> When I boot my system I first get the BIOS
[19:51] <moxyr> everything goes according to plan
[19:51] <moxyr> then I get grub
[19:52] <moxyr> everything still oke
[19:52] <moxyr> grub finishes with a blank screen and a pulsing white underscore
[19:53] <moxyr> the screen goes completely black, no pulsing white underscore
[19:53] <moxyr> the HDD let pulses for a short time
[19:53] <moxyr> 10 seconds of nothing
[19:53] <moxyr> the HDD led goes on again but longer
[19:53] <moxyr> and the systen boots
[19:54] <moxyr> Everything is the same as my previous install with 10.04 except for the 10 seconds of darkness
[19:55] <moxyr> I tried /var/log/syslog, but it only starts logging after the delay
[19:55] <moxyr> I checked grub timeout in the /etc/default/grub and changed the parameters about timeouts, but it remained 10 seconds
[19:56] <moxyr> As already said bootchart didn't show anything relevant since it starts after the delay
[19:57] <moxyr> So any idea's what is causing this?
[19:57] <moxyr> Or how do you troubleshoot something that runs before init?
[19:57] <moxyr> s/runs/happens
[20:03] <aatk> does your grub command line have "quiet splash" in it? might be worth removing that (and turning off any splash graphics) and watching hte text
[20:04] <moxyr> Already removed those when I installed the system
[20:05] <moxyr> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="elevator=noop"
[20:05] <aatk> have you run update-grub?
[20:05] <Sysi> you may need to put "text" as option
[20:05] <moxyr> Yes I have, every time I changed a timeout setting
[20:06] <moxyr> is text the same as nosplash?
[20:06] <Sysi> I don't quite know
[20:07] <moxyr> that's oke. I don't know it either
[20:09] <aatk> does dmesg have anything immediatly after boot?
[20:09]  * moxyr is rebooting with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text elevator=noop"
[20:10] <moxyr> aatk: will answer after reboot ;)
[20:12] <moxyr> text-option had the same issue
[20:13] <moxyr> grub -> 10 seconds of nothingness -> console login
[20:15] <moxyr> as far as I can tell it looks normal
[20:15] <moxyr> I shall post the first 4 seconds on pastebin
[20:17] <aatk> are you dual booting? or have any weird partitions/booting of SD or USB?
[20:17] <moxyr> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/641491/
[20:18] <moxyr> Single boot, fresh install (No upgrade for old install), no USB drives are attached
[20:19] <moxyr> output of fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/641493/
[20:20] <aatk> I'm going to reboot and see if I have any delay
[20:20] <moxyr> oke :)
[20:24] <aatk> it takes about 10s for me to get from grub->login screen
[20:25] <aatk> maybe slightly longer
[20:25] <moxyr> is your disk active for 10sec?
[20:27] <moxyr> My bootchart reports 8.23 seconds but when i use a stopwatch i get around 18 seconds
[20:28] <aatk> not sure, the leds are broken
[20:28] <moxyr> probably because the profiler/collector only runs after the delay...
[20:29] <moxyr> oke no problem
[20:31] <cetchmoh_> hi there
[20:32] <moxyr> hi
[20:32] <knome> hello
[20:34] <moxyr> While googling I found that the bliking underscore "is what you get after GRUB boots the default OS but before init loads the kernel DRM module."
[20:35] <moxyr> so it isn't grub (or grub2 in this case)
[20:35] <cetchmoh_> I'm having a bit of trouble here... I changed my alsa configuration to use my usb sound card as default and everything works perfectly, except I have no sound in flash anymore :/
[20:35] <cetchmoh_> any ideas whats going on here?
[20:36] <aatk> I'll reboot again in a few minutes and see if I can hear when the disk spins up (fan is pretty noisy) i should really get a new laptop
[20:36] <knome> cetchmoh_, it might be that pulseaudio is messing stuff up. you could try installing pavucontrol and see if everything looks okay there
[20:37] <moxyr> aatk: maybe if you take a bootchart and it says 11 seconds then you know you dont have the same delay
[20:37] <cetchmoh_> knome: mplayer is working fine with -ao pulse and -ao alsa
[20:38] <knome> cetchmoh_, i'm no expert in audio, but that might be something to start with at least :)
[20:38] <cetchmoh_> hmm... pavucontrol settings look okay...
[20:40] <aatk> rebooting w/ bootchart
[20:50] <moxyr> aatk: any luck with rebooting? :)
[20:50] <aatk> booted into windows by accident first time round
[20:50] <aatk> i should really sleep
[20:51] <aatk> just opening bootchart now
[20:53]  * moxyr will also need sleep in 30 minutes
[20:53] <moxyr> aatk: do you need my bootchart for comparison?
[20:53] <aatk> I'm just checking 2 of mine
[20:53] <aatk> and they're totally different
[20:54] <aatk> most recent has a 10-14 second delay caused by ureadahead :/
[20:54] <aatk> previous one looks normal
[20:55] <moxyr> probably because installing bootchart caused a reprofile by ureadahead?
[20:55] <aatk> it's the more recent one with the delay
[20:56] <aatk> 1st one after installing bootchart looks fine
[20:56] <moxyr> that's odd to say at least...
[20:56] <aatk> yeah
[21:00] <moxyr> ureadahead seems to be nice according to the bootchart here
[21:02] <moxyr> so if it's after grub but before the collector of bootchart
[21:03] <moxyr> then we have "loading of the kernel", "bootstrapping with initramfs" and "init"
[21:12] <moxyr> meh, again an unsuccesfull evening
[21:13] <moxyr> time to sleep. Tomorrow another try
[21:13] <moxyr> aatk: thanks for your effort
[21:14] <moxyr> too bad we couldn't find it
[21:14] <moxyr> have a good night everyone
[21:14] <knome> night moxyr
[21:15] <knome> moxyr|zzz, please try to avoid awaynicks (away message is enough), thanks! :)
[22:44] <Arthenik> hi there, I have a problem with the alternate installation CD. I use unetbootin to load it onto my flash disk but the installation procedure crashes because it cannot find a CD drive. i don't have a CD drive on my netbook and neither do I have access to an external drive
[22:45] <Arthenik> would anyone know how to fix that issue? thanks :)
[22:48] <madnick> Does it say that it is the CD drive that is the issue?
[22:48] <madnick> Or does it say that it cannot find packages?
[22:48] <Arthenik> i do not have the dialog in front of me, but it complained of being unable to mount the cd drive
[22:48] <Arthenik> it is not a package problem
[22:49] <madnick> ok
[22:49] <madnick> You should probably dump to the terminal and find out the exact issue
[22:50] <Arthenik> alright, how do i dump? i'm quite comfortable with the console :)
[22:51] <madnick> You could switch using ctrl+alt+fx
[22:53] <Arthenik> will it contain the error code without my cooperation?
[22:55] <madnick> Arthenik: the right terminal will contain it all
[22:55] <Arthenik> alright, sounds good. thanks :) i'm redownloading the CD at the moment, so I'll try it later. thanks again
[22:56] <madnick> I wouldnt use unetbootin, it installs its own little enivronment on the disk you use
[22:56] <madnick> Rather use the Startup Disk Creator
[22:56] <Arthenik> does it work with all varieties of live cds?
[22:57] <madnick> I would suppose it works for all kinds of boot images
[22:57] <madnick> Ive used it for dump my own OS onto USB
[22:58] <knome> afaik, the usb disk creator needs a desktop image
[22:58] <Arthenik> ah, i see it only works on linux. unfortunately, i only have access to a windows workstation ATM
[22:58] <Arthenik> but I'm checking alternatives
[23:00] <madnick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tools_to_create_Live_USB_systems
[23:00] <madnick> nvm me, sorry, didnt read what it said
[23:01] <giacomo> c'è qualcuno che parla italiano?does anybody speaks italian here?
[23:07] <knome> !it | giacomo
[23:08] <giacomo> grazie mille
[23:09] <knome> prego