| nrdb | can you scan from a ltsp terminal? | 04:28 |
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| Capso | Gnome Nanny seems unstable and I cannot filter EVERYTHING and allow only some sites... | 08:51 |
| Capso | so what other parental control software is available? | 08:51 |
| alkisg | I haven't used nanny, but to block everything except for a few sites, you could also use squid | 08:55 |
| alkisg | And of course you could stop using a dns server :D and only put a few entries in /etc/hosts | 08:56 |
| Capso | yeah, but what about those really smart 6 year olds who can grab google's IP and search for IP addresses or dns servers or... :P | 08:57 |
| alkisg | You really have 6 year old kids that can do that? :D | 08:58 |
| alkisg | Without sending a hostname, many sites won't reply if you use their IPs | 08:58 |
| alkisg | (because usualy there are multiple sites hosted on the same machine) | 08:59 |
| Capso | she'll just proxy to some zombied networks | 08:59 |
| Capso | :P | 08:59 |
| Capso | squid sounds like a good idea though | 08:59 |
| Capso | I've never really set it up before | 09:00 |
| alkisg | With squid in transparent mode you're able to cut all of these examples you mention | 09:00 |
| alkisg | For a local installation, you can use iptables, I don't know of any good GUI frontends though | 09:00 |
| Capso | nah, iptables is too much | 09:00 |
| Capso | how about dansguardian? | 09:01 |
| Capso | does that have an option like I mentioned? | 09:01 |
| Capso | and a nice interface? | 09:01 |
| Capso | also, there are two "squid" packages: internet object and server admin | 09:02 |
| alkisg | It shouldn't be difficult to tell iptables to only allow a few sites | 09:02 |
| alkisg | I haven't use dansguardian, but how does it enforce its policy without iptables? | 09:02 |
| alkisg | What if someone just downloads firefox 5 from the net and runs it? | 09:03 |
| Capso | I meant iptables would be "too much" for the person that I am guiding, to manage it | 09:03 |
| Capso | my girlfriend's not the computer type | 09:03 |
| Capso | I'm sure dansguardian actually uses iptables behind the scene | 09:04 |
| alkisg | You can have a text file with allowed sites | 09:04 |
| alkisg | And a script that puts those to the iptables allowed list | 09:04 |
| alkisg | Nothing difficult in that | 09:05 |
| alkisg | OK then dansguardian sounds like it fits your use case | 09:05 |
| Capso | hmm, even with dansguardian, you need iptables rules to make everything actually go through dansguardian, don't you? | 09:07 |
| alkisg | I think you're supposed to install dansguardian (or squid in transparent proxy mode) in another PC, which will act as the gateway of your "protected" pc? | 09:08 |
| Capso | yeah, in which case if you want to do it all in one pc then you have to use iptables trickery | 09:09 |
| Capso | i.e., redirect everything to the dansguardian port | 09:09 |
| alkisg | Yeah I imagine that will be required in order to properly filter everything | 09:11 |
| Capso | how the hell would gnome nanny get around this shit? | 09:11 |
| Capso | oops, pardon my farsi | 09:12 |
| alkisg | Maybe it's oriented to actual 6 year old kids who cannot search for and use proxy servers :D | 09:13 |
| Capso | oh you think it just messes around with dns settings? | 09:14 |
| alkisg | Maybe it forces the gnome proxy server to itself? | 09:15 |
| Capso | hrm, mebe | 09:16 |
| Capso | anyways, it seems completely defunct as of Edubuntu version 11.04 | 09:16 |
| Capso | so whoever runs the website shouldn't taut it as much | 09:16 |
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