/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/11/#kubuntu-devel.txt

ScottKapachelogger: kolourpaint4 breaks/replaces kolourpain isn't needed.00:00
ScottKapachelogger and debfx: all the existing plunder is in.  Please send more.00:07
ScottKLooks like we could use some MIR work https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-July/000249.html01:32
LaserJockScottK: do you really want to MIR those?01:38
ScottKNot sure.01:39
LaserJockor could you move to Suggests or something01:39
ScottKI didn't actually look into it.01:39
LaserJockeverything but blinken and edict are font packages01:39
LaserJockblinken might make sense since it is part of KDE Edu01:39
LaserJockScottK: if you move them to Main would that imply that they would go on the CD?01:44
ScottKLaserJock: Or on the dvd.01:44
ScottKMost of those are from kdeedu.01:44
LaserJockyeah01:46
LaserJockI don't remember why blinken was demoted but it hasn't been in Main for as long as I worked with Edubuntu01:46
LaserJockit could be just a historical thing01:47
ScottKttf-sjfonts would have to be promoted too, but that's trivial.01:47
yofelyay, armle build of marble worked, the symbols don't match though :S04:36
yofel*armel04:36
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/libmarblewidget12.symbols symbol updates04:56
yofelmeh, amd64 symbols refreshed, stupid toolchain04:56
* yofel rebuilds armel04:56
yofelbbl04:58
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/libmarblewidget12.symbols update with armel symbols05:37
ScottKyofel: http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1240908&view=revision needs to get added to our 4.6.5 packages.  It's 3am here, so I'm off to bed.  Please fix/find someone to fix.06:58
shadeslayeri can do that if you want07:04
yofelre07:28
yofelshadeslayer: are you adding it?07:28
shadeslayeryus07:28
yofelhm, how was that gpg agent supposed to launch at login again?07:30
yofelit's not running in O here :/07:31
shadeslayerubottu: botsnack07:34
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:34
shadeslayeryofel: is your server down or sth?07:34
yofelit's not07:35
shadeslayerweird, can't ssh07:35
shadeslayeryofel.dyndns.org: Name or service not known ...07:35
yofelshadeslayer: blame your DNS I would say07:36
yofeldoes 93.231.158.173 work?07:36
shadeslayeryup07:36
shadeslayerworks now, looks like a temporary issue07:36
shadeslayeryofel: what happens if my pbuilder runs out of space when using tmpfs?07:40
shadeslayerdoes it start swapping?07:40
yofelyes07:40
shadeslayerkewl07:40
bambeemorning07:41
yofelmake sure you've got enough swap :P07:41
yofelno space left on device is better than oom-kill 07:41
shadeslayerhah :D07:41
yofelgood morning bambee07:41
shadeslayermorning bambee07:41
bambeehi :)07:42
yofelheh, kross-interpreters changelog:07:42
yofel  2   * "Bye bye to you, ugly monolithic kdebindings" release.07:42
shadeslayer:D07:43
yofelcouldn't have said it better :P07:45
bambeelol07:50
bambeeCan someone change the topic to put kde "4.6.95" ?07:52
shadeslayerbambee: you can do it too07:52
QuintasanGood morning07:53
bambeeshadeslayer: really? I did not know xD07:53
=== bambee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.6.95 and 4.6.5 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | Merges: https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html 
QuintasanAre we done with uploading to main yet?07:55
yofeluh, no?07:55
Quintasanyofel: What is that you wanted me to review?07:56
yofelmarble07:56
yofelit's a globe full of fun copyrights07:56
QuintasanOh snap.07:56
QuintasanGotta make tea then07:56
Quintasanshadeslayer: I guess you are done with the Ark 4.6.5 fix which was posted on kde-packagers07:57
shadeslayerQuintasan: its building here, will upload in a couple of minutes07:57
QuintasanAwesome.07:57
yofelbtw. can someone with superpowers take care of bug 808650 ?07:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 808650 in Ubuntu "Sync kross-interpreters 4:4.6.90-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80865007:57
yofeland make ScottK promote that to main07:58
QuintasanI do not think I can do that07:58
shadeslayeronly a archive admin can do that07:58
QuintasanScottK: Did you get cjwatson to run that magical packageset script?07:59
shadeslayerQuintasan: iirc he did07:59
Quintasanyofel: I recommend that you use warp-and-sort07:59
QuintasanMaking stuff look like that by hand is fine but warp-and-sort is just wra<tab> :P07:59
yofelah08:00
* Quintasan goes off to make some tea08:00
shadeslayerwarp-and-sort?08:02
Quintasanshadeslayer: go to some directory with debian/ and issue it and look at debian/control08:05
shadeslayeroooh08:06
shadeslayerthat is one fancy script08:06
yofelbbl08:17
Quintasanyofel: Marble looks fine to me, unless I missed some licensing foo it should be good to upload08:39
debfxshadeslayer: in the libkipi copyright file you don't really say that most files are GPLv208:58
Quintasandebfx: Would you mind re-reviewing parley in a minute?09:01
Quintasandebfx: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/parley_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2 <-- new tarball and I pushed updated copyright magic to bzr09:02
Quintasanyofel: ping09:03
debfxQuintasan: can do09:03
Quintasandebfx: Thanks09:03
Quintasandebfx: Please leave comments on wiki https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging09:07
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Quintasanshadeslayer: looks like cjwatson did not run the script09:16
Quintasan:S09:16
Quintasandebfx: How do I check in which packageset a package is?09:21
debfxQuintasan: no, but presumably there is some lpapi method to do that09:32
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=== hunger_ is now known as hunger
QuintasanScottK: http://paste.kde.org/94267/ <-- I asked cjwatson to add these to packageset so far09:43
Quintasandebfx: In case you wanted to know edit_acl.py can do this stuff -> lp:ubuntu-archive-tools09:44
debfxah, I only used edit_acl to dump all packages in a packageset09:45
Quintasandebfx: I grepped the output :P09:46
apacheloggerdebfx: I hardly think that lintian warning is sufficient reason for multiple binaries09:47
apacheloggerdebfx: at best I'd go for suggests okular09:47
apacheloggerQuintasan: did you bzr push kdemm yet?09:47
Quintasanapachelogger: I did not09:48
apacheloggerScottK: about "apachelogger: kolourpaint4 breaks/replaces kolourpain isn't needed." ... that is from the old packaging, supposedly we can drop it, kolourpaint was last in hardy IIRC09:48
apacheloggerQuintasan: plz do09:48
debfxapachelogger: it's not about the lintian warning itself but the reason why it's emitted09:48
apacheloggerdebfx: which is?09:48
debfxthe package installs a desktop file with MimeType=... so you'll get an error when you try to open those and okular isn't installed09:50
apacheloggerdebfx: tryexec is the fix to that09:51
debfxapachelogger: ok. also I think the package name is too generic as it's hardly the only software that deals with mobipocket09:53
apacheloggertrue09:56
apacheloggerkdegraphics-mobipocket?09:56
apacheloggerperhaps we can get upstream to change it too09:56
CIA-52[kiten] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711100001-fm7gqv5g9vaawcoz * debian/ (kiten.docs copyright) document license for dict files and install it to kiten docs10:00
CIA-52[kiten] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711100050-e36dh324pdxh08qa * releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu110:00
Quintasandebfx: Did you upload Parley?10:01
Quintasandebfx: If so then thanks, if no then why the hell did it upload? :P10:03
apacheloggerScottK: kiten in new again10:04
debfxQuintasan: yep. the copyright file was incomplete but I've fixed that (see bzr branch)10:04
apacheloggerthat dictionary situation really ought to be discussed with upstream10:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: is kate fixed yet?10:05
CIA-52[kdewebdev] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711100800-ss2yegxe8nt669wn * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu110:08
CIA-52[kdewebdev] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711100819-yzdrs0iv10al9i5u * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu110:08
Quintasanapachelogger: Apparently it is, wiki states it needs upload10:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: kdemm?10:19
apacheloggeranyone got time to test a natty-proposed package real quick?10:19
apacheloggerbambee: did you merge propose kdeutils?10:22
apacheloggermeh, no sd cards today :(10:25
yofelQuintasan: pong10:29
CIA-52[kdetoys] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711102950-2ypfdv0xz9qyonfn * debian/control don't introduce pointless dependency precision handled by kde-sc-dev-latest10:30
CIA-52[kdetoys] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711103108-3usnau9vljbvxwm9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu110:31
bambeeapachelogger: no10:32
bambeeI will propose a merge now10:32
apacheloggerkthx10:32
=== KRF_ is now known as KRF
bambeeyofel: I don't understand your changes in kdeutils-4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa2, why a ~ppa2?10:36
bambeewhere is the ~ppa1?10:37
yofelah, I probably synced that with bzr and didn't add a new changelog for that10:37
bambeeit's not in bzr yet10:37
yofelor wait, I think that was just a rebuild10:37
bambeethat's why I don't understand...10:37
yofelfor fixed kde-workspace10:37
CIA-52[kdesdk] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711103820-x6f5jqw0sreev4my * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-1ubuntu110:38
bambeemhhh10:38
apacheloggeryofel: can you plz confirm bug 70850810:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 708508 in gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu Natty) "Debug Setting Broken in C++" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70850810:40
apacheloggerwell, verify really10:41
yofelonce I get home to my natty system, sure, will take ~1h10:41
apacheloggerkthx10:41
CIA-52[rocs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711104531-bsktsnd1j6w9fz98 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu110:45
Quintasanyofel: nvm I tried uploading kde-baseapps but I had no access10:51
Quintasanyofel: Shouldn't ~ppa2 contain the regression patch?10:51
Quintasanof kdeutils10:51
yofel4.6.5? I didn't touch it10:52
Quintasan4.6.90 had that as well10:52
yofelah, I didn't add it10:52
Quintasan4.6.95 should be fixed so don't sweat it10:52
Quintasanyofel: Shall I upload kde-baseapps -ubuntu210:53
Quintasan?10:53
yofelfeel free to, has a fixed copyright file, not that important though10:54
QuintasanCopyright magic is important!10:54
* Quintasan wants a excuse to try uploading10:54
yofellol10:54
bambeehttps://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kdeutils/+merge/67523 :)10:57
Quintasanyofel: Accepted :D11:02
yofel^^11:02
shadeslayerhmm, nouveau actually works ...11:02
yofelas long as you don't have my noteboot it does11:03
yofel*notebook11:03
shadeslayerhahahah11:03
shadeslayerwell, a couple of my windows are freezing, except for that, works well11:03
bambeeshadeslayer: what videocard have you?11:05
shadeslayernvidia 8600 MGT11:05
shadeslayerfor some reason i can't install nvidia-current, and nouveau was the next best thing11:06
bambeenouveau should just work with this card11:07
shadeslayerit is :)11:07
bambee:)11:07
bambeewhich kernel? :D11:08
shadeslayer2.6.38-10-generic11:08
shadeslayeroh btw : http://paste.ubuntu.com/641809/11:09
bambeefor some reason linux-3.0 is unsable with nouveau and gallium here :\11:09
shadeslayeroh ...11:09
bambeeI've to switch to 2.6.38 and everything works fine11:09
shadeslayermy entire interwebz is *crawling* for some reason11:11
* shadeslayer fixes DNS's11:12
* nigelb waves11:28
nigelbthis is one channel I forgot from my autojoin :/11:28
yofelheh, wb :)11:28
Quintasannigelb: How could you :<11:33
* Quintasan waves to nigelb11:33
nigelbQuintasan: :( No excuses11:34
Quintasannigelb: Well, now that you are here you are forgiven ;)11:34
nigelbhehe11:34
Quintasanshadeslayer: Is kate fixxxx0rd?11:36
shadeslayerQuintasan: yes, but hold on just one sec11:36
QuintasanFix what you have to fix and I will upload11:36
shadeslayerlemme run that sort script11:36
Quintasanreview and upload*11:36
Quintasanwrap-and-sort11:36
shadeslayeryep, thats the one11:37
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 17 * debian/ (control copyright kate-data.install kate-dev.install) Minor clean up using wrap-and-sort11:38
shadeslayerQuintasan: done, get packaging from bzr, tarball from ninjas11:38
apacheloggerQuintasan: are you continuing uploads of new stuff?11:39
Quintasanapachelogger: Ah, what's up with the stuff marked as NEW on Wiki?11:40
apacheloggerQuintasan: it is in source new11:40
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/step] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (control copyright) wrap-and-sort cleanup11:40
Quintasanapachelogger: I wanted to upload kate since it is marked as needs upload11:40
yofelfun script, bbiab11:41
apacheloggerQuintasan: and?11:41
Quintasanapachelogger: And nothing11:41
apacheloggerk :P11:41
Quintasanreviewing and uploading kate11:41
* apachelogger is doing phonon stuff for the rest of the day11:42
debfxbambee: is the libkexiv2 package ready?11:42
Quintasanapachelogger: kross-interpreters <-- find someone to sync that11:42
apacheloggerfile sync request and find an archive admin employed by canonical11:43
apacheloggernot high priority though IIR the dep graph correctly11:43
shadeslayerherp derp11:44
shadeslayerkdevelop introduced libqtwebkit-dev as a dep in a minor release11:44
shadeslayersomeone should spank them11:44
shadeslayeror not ...11:46
shadeslayerone of our packages misses a depends on libqtwebkit-dev11:46
Quintasanshadeslayer: Be more specific11:47
shadeslayerQuintasan: previously libqtwebkit-dev was pulled in automagically when building kdevelop11:49
shadeslayernow its not11:50
Quintasanshadeslayer: Maybe it was dropped in that package?11:50
shadeslayerprobably, looking at the build deps11:50
shadeslayerQuintasan: kdelibs5-dev needs to depend on libqtwebkit-dev it seems11:52
bambeedebfx: it is11:52
bambeedebfx: it has been merged two days ago11:52
debfxshadeslayer: I've dropped that dependency while merging kdelibs11:53
shadeslayeroneiric : http://paste.kde.org/94309 , natty : http://paste.kde.org/9431511:53
shadeslayerah11:53
shadeslayerdebfx: ok, adding deps to kdevelop then11:53
QuintasanI was about to write that if it had to depend on webkit then it would have failed11:54
Quintasanit being kdelibs11:54
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* Quintasan goes on a break11:55
* jussi breaks Quintasan11:55
debfxbambee: ok, I'll upload it11:56
* Quintasan throws bricks at jussi11:56
jussihehe11:56
* shadeslayer gives jussi a dual portal gun11:56
jussiwhat the heck is a dual portal gun?11:57
* Quintasan sets the portals so bricks fall at shadeslayer endlessly11:57
shadeslayerjussi: :O11:57
Quintasanjussi: It's a gun that opens portals11:57
shadeslayerjussi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A88YiZdXugA11:57
shadeslayerits a flipping awesome game11:58
shadeslayeriirc its 25 USD on steam these days11:58
ScottKyofel: Why does kross-interpreters need to be in Main?12:09
ScottKQuintasan: I saw the discussion about packagset changes on #ubuntu-devel.  Great (you're in a better TZ for such discussions with him anyway).12:09
yofelre12:13
yofelScottK: seems like it in fact doesn't need to be in main. parley used to recommend it but Quintasan dropped that it seems for 4.6.9012:14
yofelQuintasan: any specific reason for that?12:14
ScottKapachelogger: Yes, but it was carried forward into the new packaging and should be dropped (kolourpaint)12:16
apacheloggerright12:16
apacheloggerthat is what I said :P12:16
ScottKI'll have a look at kiten in a bit.12:16
ScottKPlease keep the plunder coming.12:16
* nigelb blinks and reads channel name again12:17
* apachelogger is doing phonon and looks at Quintasan and debfx12:17
* apachelogger wonders whatever happend to JT12:17
shadeslayerjob?12:17
apachelogger24/7?12:18
shadeslayerjob+minecraft+tf2 then :P12:18
apacheloggerthat sounds more like it12:18
nigelbshadeslayer: you have a job now?12:18
* apachelogger waves fist12:18
apacheloggerlazy children12:18
shadeslayernigelb: not me, JT12:18
nigelbah12:19
apacheloggernigelb: dont be ridiculous :P12:19
shadeslayeroh any ideas if DarkwingDuck got into canonical?12:19
apacheloggersince he has not said anything in here for like weeks I presume so12:19
rbelemapachelogger, i got plasma-active running from neon packages, but built from different branches12:26
apacheloggerrbelem: I got it with oneiric :P12:27
apacheloggeractually straight forward12:27
apacheloggerwe only need to package kdelibs experimental12:27
rbelemapachelogger, :-D12:28
* apachelogger tries to fix his X right now though :P12:28
apacheloggersomehow broke it with gles stuff12:28
rbelemapachelogger, it needs some other branch of kde-runtime12:28
apacheloggerrly?12:28
rbelemyup12:28
apacheloggerwell, I did not start it yet12:28
apacheloggersurely it is well documented12:29
apachelogger...12:29
rbelemi tried with master and i got lots of errors12:29
rbelemthen i checkout to active-development/4.712:30
rbelemand it worked12:30
apacheloggeroh, that is entirely possible12:31
apacheloggerwell, depending on their changes we might be able to package that easily12:31
rbelemapachelogger, but i'm stille getting this error "Error loading QML file. 24: module "org.kde.plasma.slccomponents" is not installed"12:31
apacheloggerrbelem: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/share-like-connect12:32
apacheloggerthat should contain slc IIRC12:32
rbelemapachelogger, we need to freeze a version before they start making changes for kde 4.812:33
rbelemapachelogger, nice :-) thanks12:33
apacheloggerwell12:33
apacheloggerI think they will have to work against 4.812:34
apacheloggersebas wants a stable release by september or something12:34
apacheloggerwouldnt be much stable if it ran on 4.812:34
rbelemapachelogger, awesome12:34
apacheloggerat any rate we could in theory build special versions of libs and stuff12:34
Quintasanyofel: I did drop that?12:35
QuintasanIt must have been by accident12:35
apacheloggerbut then we'd have kdelibs twice in memory12:35
apacheloggerthat surely would not be nice12:35
rbelemapachelogger, and find the specific revision would be painful12:35
apacheloggerrbelem: well, if they work against 4.8 we can just take latest master, as that is bound to be working ;)12:36
yofelapachelogger: what gst package do I need to install? all of them?12:36
apacheloggeryes12:36
apacheloggerwhen?12:36
apacheloggerfor what?12:36
apacheloggerwhy?12:36
yofelgst SRU?12:36
apacheloggerah12:37
apacheloggerwhatever phonon-gstreamer depends on12:37
apacheloggerthen export PHONON_GST_GST_DEBUG=512:37
apacheloggeralmost no output should be generated12:37
apacheloggerthen upgrade libgstreamer0.1012:37
apacheloggertry again12:38
apacheloggeryour system should almost die now from the amount of debug12:38
apacheloggerif you want to die it for realz try with 9 instead of 5 :P12:38
rbelemapachelogger, do we have packages for share-like-connect?12:38
Quintasanshadeslayer: kdevelop ftbfs12:39
shadeslayerQuintasan: sawn, working on it12:40
shadeslayeri think its because i removed quilt12:40
yofelbah12:41
* yofel exported the wrong var12:41
shadeslayerQuintasan: did you upload kate?12:41
yofelGAAAH12:41
yofelapachelogger: works12:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: Not yet12:42
apacheloggeryofel: please comment and set tag verification-done or something12:42
apacheloggeryofel: thanks :)12:42
yofeldoing already12:42
* yofel tries to get a oneiric VM and check what happens if you run kdepim 4.4 with kde 4.712:43
ScottKyofel: I think it's not supported.12:49
yofelapachelogger: since I agree with ScottK there, are you sure we should put that into experimental?12:53
apacheloggeryes12:54
apacheloggerand for the reason please have a look at irclogs12:54
* apachelogger reasoned like 3 times why it is supremely dangerous to go directly to oneiric with 4.712:54
* apachelogger broke his X12:55
apacheloggerrbelem: how much faster is class10?12:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: same here12:55
* apachelogger did not receive his cards today so he is a bit sad12:55
ScottKpykde source accepted.13:03
ScottK libkexiv2 source accepted.13:15
ScottKWhy does libkipi-dbg both Depends libkipi8 (= ${binary:Version}) and Suggests libkipi8 (= ${source:Version})13:19
ScottKShould be fixed.13:19
ScottKOtherwise I think it's OK.  Accepting.13:21
shadeslayerScottK: actually thats fixed in bzr13:31
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Rohan Garg * 10 * debian/ (control copyright) Wrap and sort13:31
shadeslayerwth kdevelop is ftbfs13:33
ScottKOK.13:37
ScottKparley source accepted.13:37
shadeslayerwtf, kdevelop builds just fine on my laptop13:38
shadeslayerand in the PPA it fails :S13:38
ScottKlibkexiv2 binaries accepted.13:49
debfxPSA: please disable dh_auto_test only if it's really necessary13:50
ScottKlibkipi binaries accepted.13:51
ScottKYou ought to be able to upload things that use those binaries in an hour.13:52
shadeslayeroh good god, kded4 is at 100%13:59
ScottKkiten source accepted.14:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: you should implement detection for ran away modules :P14:05
shadeslayeri would, if i had any idea how it is supposed to be done14:06
ScottKGood timing with marble.14:07
ScottKI'd just finished the rest of the stuff.14:07
debfxso what packages are missing to get a ~working kde again?14:14
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apacheloggerworkspace should be up again14:15
apacheloggeractually I built plasma-mobile earlier today so I doubt there is much breakage left in the workspace area ^^14:15
ScottKWhy isn't the binary for pykde4 not python-kde4?14:16
ScottKmarble source is in.14:16
yofelbambee: ^14:17
debfxScottK: I don't understand, too many negations ;)14:18
ScottKThe binary in pykde4 is pykde4.14:18
ScottKI would have expected it to be python-kde4.14:18
ScottKWhy not that?14:18
yofelIt's python-kde4 in bzr14:18
debfxScottK: the binary is python-kde414:18
ScottKSorry14:19
ScottKLP U/I confused me.14:19
ScottKNevermind14:19
yofelbambee: unping ^^14:19
apacheloggerstupid lp14:22
bambeeyofel: ?14:22
bambeeah14:22
bambeeok14:22
yofelsry14:22
bambeenp :)14:22
debfxshadeslayer: why does kate-dbg depend on libc6-dbg [amd64]?14:34
shadeslayerdebfx: it shouldn't , i forgot to remove that14:37
apacheloggerwhere is the sheytan :14:37
apacheloggerS14:37
shadeslayeri saw him a couple of hours ago iirc14:38
shadeslayerdebfx: fixed14:38
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 18 * debian/control Remove libc6-dbg from kate-dbg depends14:38
yofel~seen sheytan14:38
kubotusheytan was last seen 19 hours, 1 minute and 28 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)14:38
ScottKpykde4 binaries accepted.14:40
debfxshadeslayer: thanks. why is -DKDE_DISTRIBUTION_TEXT="Kubuntu packages" necessary?14:42
yofelleftover from kdelibs I would say14:42
shadeslayerdebfx: it was being used in kdelibs, which is why i kept it14:42
debfxafaik it's only needed for kdelibs14:43
shadeslayerok, fixing14:45
shadeslayerdebfx: i'm going to hold off commiting this right now, let me know if you find any other issues, i'll fix all of them in one go14:46
shadeslayeri'll also enable tests since they did build the last time i checked14:47
debfxok14:47
debfxshadeslayer: libkatepartinterfaces4.symbols has version 4.7.014:48
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shadeslayerdebfx: yes, should that have been 4.7 ?14:48
yofelrather 4.6.9014:49
debfx4:4.6.9014:49
yofelright14:49
debfxhrm, half the kate tests segfault14:50
debfxand the other half requires X ^^14:51
shadeslayerok, should i just replace all those with 4:4.6.90 or go through the entire process of generating them again?14:51
shadeslayerdebfx: yeah14:51
shadeslayerwill keep them disabled14:51
debfxyou can just replace the version14:52
debfxyou can drop the breaks/replaces of kate-dev and libkatepartinterfaces414:52
* debfx wonders why lintian doesn't have a warning for packages that break or replace themselves14:53
shadeslayerfixed all of these issues14:54
shadeslayerquestion, does the 4.7.0 version at the end of the symbols file mean/do anything?14:56
shadeslayeror does it just represent the version against which the symbols were generated14:56
apacheloggeryofel will know14:56
debfxshadeslayer: kate-dbg recommends kdelibs-bin (= ${binary:Version}). you can't do that because it's in a different source package14:58
debfxwhy does it recommend that anyway?14:58
shadeslayerright, thats wrong14:58
shadeslayerleftover from kdelibs i think14:59
yofelIIRC it's the version you generated them at, so the next check knows when the symbols are from. Or rather you as maintainer know when those symbols were added so you can decide what to do with them14:59
shadeslayerdebfx: i don't think i need the Recommends field at all15:00
debfxshadeslayer: yes, imo depending on kdebase-runtime-dbg (like kdesdk-dbg) would be best15:01
shadeslayerindeed15:01
shadeslayeri guess thats kde-runtime-dbg now15:02
debfxyofel: how does the symbols version affect packages that link against the library? :)15:03
yofelapachelogger: that's as much as I know, iirc they also affect the versioned dependencies, but I'm not sure how15:03
debfxshadeslayer: ah, right15:03
* yofel makes a note to read the dpkg-gensymbols manpage again later15:04
shadeslayer^^15:05
apachelogger^^15:05
yofeldebfx: although, guessing from what I said, you can set a minimal version dependency on a library for other packages that depend on it?15:05
yofelor rather dpkg will do that from the symbols file15:06
debfxshadeslayer: W: kate-data: copyright-refers-to-deprecated-bsd-license-file15:07
debfxand I: kate: arch-dep-package-has-big-usr-share 3254kB 51%15:07
shadeslayernever seen that lintian error15:08
* shadeslayer looks15:08
debfxi.e. all the arch independent stuff should be moved to kate-data15:08
shadeslayerhmm .. lets see15:08
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 19 * debian/ (control libkatepartinterfaces4.symbols rules) * kate-dev, libkatepartinterfaces4 : Don't Break/Replaces self15:10
debfx./usr/lib/libkateinterfaces.so.4 should be in kate-dev instead of kate15:10
debfxah no, it should be in libkatepartinterfaces415:10
shadeslayeruh, but we have earlier shipped that file with kate15:10
yofeldebfx: only libkatepartinterfaces4 has a seperate package as it was from kdelibs before, libkateinferfaces.so.4 was always in kate15:11
yofelshould that get it's own package?15:12
shadeslayerso, should i move everything in /usr/share/ in kate to kate-data?15:13
yofelwell, everything arch-indep, so yes15:14
debfxyofel: re your earlier question: you can but symbol files may override that15:14
debfxah now I'm confused with all those similar named kate libs15:14
yofelhappened to everyone here ^^15:14
shadeslayeryeah :P15:15
debfxwhat packages build-depend on kate-dev?15:16
shadeslayerwasn't there a script in kate that detects dupes15:17
shadeslayercan't find it anymore15:17
yofeldebfx: don't think there are any. IIRC that package was created since a user complained he couldn't build kate plugins due to missing headers15:17
debfxyofel: every library that is covered by a -dev packages should be in an own package15:18
yofelok, agreed15:18
shadeslayerso split out libkateinterfaces?15:20
yofelyes15:20
yofelit's not in /usr/lib/kde4/ either15:20
shadeslayerso public lib, needs new symbols15:21
shadeslayeranything else?15:21
debfxthere is also libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so15:22
shadeslayerso ... libktexteditor0 ?15:24
yofelrather the full name, at least it's versioned15:24
yofelas in libktexteditor-codesnippets-core0 I think15:26
shadeslayerok, i'm off to dinner for now, will cya in a bit15:26
ScottKrocs binaries acceptes.15:29
ScottKs/d15:29
ScottKmarble binaries accepted.15:32
ScottKapachelogger: All the plunder is in.  Send more.15:32
apacheloggerdebfx: All the plunder is in. Send more.15:33
yofeldebfx: with libkexiv2 and marble up kdeplasma-addons should be uploadable15:33
* apachelogger is phonon overlord master supreme general king emperor minion today15:33
ScottKNCommander: I never heard back from anyone in #linaro about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkdcraw/4:4.6.90+repack1-0ubuntu1/+build/2616014/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.libkdcraw_4%3A4.6.90%2Brepack1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - plese help.15:34
debfxapachelogger: I've already reviewed too many packages today, I'll leave the rest for you tomorrow (since apparently we are the only kubuntu-devs that upload packages these days)15:38
* apachelogger throws broken pornon code at Quintasan15:39
* yofel wanted to redirect that to johnthetaco but he's not here...15:40
debfxanother PSA: when you rename a package you need to conflict,replace,provide the old one15:41
* apachelogger waves fist a bit15:41
debfxversioned breaks,replaces confuse apt in that case15:42
apacheloggerdebfx: in what case?15:42
apacheloggerah, provides15:43
apacheloggerwell15:43
apacheloggerdebfx: IIRC the policy suggests breaks these days15:43
debfxapachelogger: when you don't have a transitional package15:43
apacheloggerperhaps it will work then15:43
apacheloggerat any rate transitional package is the safest bet and should be used whenever possible15:43
apacheloggerIMHO15:43
* apachelogger rolls a dice to find out how to fix what he broke in phonon15:44
debfxapachelogger: afaik the policy only recommends breaks if it's versioned15:47
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apacheloggerdebfx: well yes, randomly guessing, a versioned breaks, replaces might work in combination with provides15:49
apacheloggeras conflicts replaces provides is implementation-wise a special case 15:49
apacheloggerbreaks and conflicts act on different states in the package state machine, so it is entirely possible that a versioned conflicts could mess things up whereas a breaks results in right behaviour15:50
apacheloggerQuintasan: when do I get meego keyboard packages btw?15:51
debfxversioned breaks/conflicts/... don't make sense when you rename the package15:53
debfxsince there won't be a new version of the old package15:54
apacheloggerdebfx: yeah, unless it gets renamed again15:57
apacheloggeror another package takes the place for that matter15:58
apacheloggerwhich is the more concerning case15:58
apacheloggercause in that case you'd need to create the new package and change the other package to use a versioned death relation15:58
* yofel notes he had to fix some unversioned breaks replaces against some okular package somewhere15:58
yofelso this *does* happen15:58
debfxin that case you also need to drop the provides and it's all messy anyway16:01
debfxoh, kubuntu-desktop is broken, it depends on kdebase-workspace-bin16:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: aw crap, i just saw the Mid term eval mail 16:11
* yofel totally forgot that it's dev week this week :/16:17
yofelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek16:17
yofelpython packaging sounds interesting16:18
shadeslayerthat and Desktop Q&A16:18
shadeslayerwon't be able to attend either16:19
nigelbAlso, if you folks want to do a lighting talk about something, please find me.16:19
nigelbWe have plenty of slots for lightning talks16:19
=== mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin
debfxwe now have a package called kdewallpapers and another one called kde-wallpapers ^^16:30
yofelwas wondering if we should rename kdewallpapers into kde-extra-wallpapers or so16:31
yofelor kde-wallpapers-extra, but that sounds like it's from kde-wallpapers, not kdeartwork16:31
debfxhm yes, though we'd have to keep kdewallpapers as a transitional package16:33
yofelyep16:33
debfxwhich makes 3 kde wallpaper packages :D16:34
shadeslayermore wallpapers for everyone \o/16:34
yofelwell, it makes it look like we have more :P16:34
debfxI hope muon has some logic to hide transitional packages16:34
apacheloggershadeslayer: why is that crap?16:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: whats crap?16:36
apacheloggernigelb: can I lightning talk about fluffy?16:36
apacheloggershadeslayer: you said aw crap16:36
nigelbapachelogger: yeah, sure!16:36
apacheloggerwoohooo16:36
apacheloggernigelb: I'll poke you later about that then ^^16:36
apacheloggeror tomorrow16:36
apacheloggermore likely tomorrow16:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: ah, because now i'm in a state of panick since i missed that announcement16:36
* apachelogger is rather deep in fancy code right now16:37
nigelbapachelogger: cool!16:37
shadeslayers/panick/panic/16:37
kubotushadeslayer meant: "apachelogger: ah, because now i'm in a state of panic since i missed that announcement"16:37
apacheloggershadeslayer: ah, well, I just hold on to eean telling me what to do and when ^^16:37
shadeslayer:D16:37
apacheloggerwhich might fail as he is rather busy with other things :S16:37
apacheloggerthere16:37
apacheloggernow I am in a state of panic too16:37
apacheloggergreat job there16:37
shadeslayerwohoo :P16:37
* apachelogger wonders how he managed to degrade drawing performance by 300%16:38
shadeslayerwhoa16:38
davmor2apachelogger: did you look at something?  If so I'd start there and work back to things you touched and then changed and so on ;)16:39
apacheloggerI was making sweet love to the code16:40
apacheloggerso I was all over it16:40
apachelogger:S16:40
* nigelb blinks seeing davmor2 16:41
apacheloggerah16:41
apacheloggerno wond0r16:41
apacheloggerQRectF(400.889,240.5 -1.77778x-1) 16:41
apacheloggerthat looks rather kaput16:41
* apachelogger blames shadeslayer16:41
* shadeslayer blames exams16:41
davmor2nigelb: Why?  I still test kubuntu and its browsers from time to time16:41
nigelbdavmor2: Yah, the blink wwas seeing you everywhere16:42
davmor2muhahahaha16:42
bambeeartifacts with nouveau ftw! 16:45
bambeeplay to urbanterror is just impossible, arrff :'(16:45
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: not yet...16:55
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: so the interviews are still going on?16:55
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: they are concerned about my lack of QA but, Jono said I'm still the guy to beat.. I'll for 100% by the end of the month.17:57
shadeslayerah, best of luck in that case :D17:57
* ScottK notes a depressing lack of new plunder in New.17:58
DarkwingDuckWe'll see how it goes.18:00
debfxScottK: that leaves more time for you to review packages18:00
ScottKdebfx: Well, I need to get some actual $WORK done today too, unfortunately.18:00
debfxsure, just saying that there is enough stuff to review even when NEW is empty ;)18:05
ScottKYeah, understood.18:14
ScottK$WORK is really busy right now, so I'm trying to make sure I save most of my Kubuntu time for New since I'm the only one around who can do it.18:14
=== txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger
ScottKdebfx: If you have a moment, kdesdk fails on powerpc.  That's the only arch where the new cmake got used.  Is there any chance this is due to a cmake bug? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/74989491/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-powerpc.kdesdk_4%3A4.6.90-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz19:02
debfxbambee: there are some uninstalled files in kdeutils like /usr/lib/kde4/kremotecontrol_lirc.so19:02
bambeedebfx: fixing19:03
debfx/usr/share/kde4/services/kremotecontrolbackends/kremotecontrol_lirc.desktop and /usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/kremotecontrolmanager.desktop are the other ones19:03
debfxScottK: I've built several packages using the new cmake without problems19:04
debfxthere isn't an error message or am I missing something?19:05
ScottKI don't see one.19:05
yofelbambee: can you take another look at kdeplasma-addons too? There are themes in list-missing19:05
bambeeyofel: sure19:05
ScottKTm_T: Can you do a test build of kdesdk from oneiric on powerpc?19:06
yofelScottK, debfx: error:19:08
yofel[ 84%] Building CXX object okteta/program/CMakeFiles/okteta.dir/mainwindow.o19:08
yofelcd okteta/program && /usr/bin/c++   -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII -D_REENTRANT -DKDE_DEPRECATED_WARNINGS -DKDE4_CMAKE_TOPLEVEL_DIR_LENGTH=13 -DQT_USE_FAST_CONCATENATION -DQT_USE_FAST_OPERATOR_PLUS -DQT_USE_FAST_CONCATENATION -DQT_USE_FAST_OPERATOR_PLUS -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII -DQT_NO_CAST_FROM_ASCII -DNO_STRUCTURES_TOOL -g -O2  -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -ansi -Wundef -Wcast-align -Wchar-19:08
yofelsubscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wformat-security -fno-exceptions -DQT_NO_EXCEPTIONS -fno-check-new -fno-common -Woverloaded-virtual -fno-threadsafe-statics -fvisibility=hidden -Werror=return-type -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DNDEBUG -DQT_NO_DEBUG -I. -I../../../okteta/program -I../../.. -I../.. -I../kasten/controllers -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/controllers -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/controllers/document -I../../..19:08
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yofel/../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/core/io -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/core/system -I../../../okteta/program/../gui -I../../../okteta/program/../core -I/usr/include/KDE -I/usr/include/qt4/phonon -I/usr/include/qt4/QtXmlPatterns -I/usr/include/qt4/QtXml -I/usr/include/qt4/QtUiTools -I/usr/include/qt4/QtTest -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSvg -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSql -I/usr/include/qt4/QtScriptTools -I/usr/include/qt4/QtScript -19:08
yofelI/usr/include/qt4/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/qt4/QtHelp -I/usr/include/qt4/QtDesigner -I/usr/include/qt4/QtDeclarative -I/usr/include/qt4/QtDBus -I/usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/Qt -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/default -I/usr/include/qt4    -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -o CMakeFiles/okteta.dir/mainwindow.o -c ../../../okteta/program/mainwindow.cpp19:08
yofelIn file included from ../../../okteta/program/mainwindow.cpp:47:0:19:08
yofel../../../okteta/program/../kasten/controllers/view/structures/structtool.h:30:35: fatal error: structviewpreferences.h: No such file or directory19:08
yofelcompilation terminated.19:08
yofelmake[4]: *** [okteta/program/CMakeFiles/okteta.dir/mainwindow.o] Error 119:08
ScottKyofel: pastbin.19:08
yofelbah, sry19:08
yofeldidn't seem that large at first glance19:08
yofelhttp://paste.kde.org/9449519:09
bambeeo_O19:09
debfxit took the build system quite a while to realize that something failed ;)19:10
ScottKYep.19:11
ScottKNew plunder, ahoy!19:25
ScottKksnapshot source accepted.19:30
yofelScottK: response on kde bug 27737019:31
ubottuKDE bug 277370 in libkdcraw "Unclear licensing for profiles/prophoto icm and profiles/srgb-d65 icm" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27737019:31
ScottKyofel: I see. "for free redistribution" is not suitable for Main.19:32
ScottKIt seems it is, indeed, an issue that needs investigation.19:32
ScottKIf only Riddell were around.  Making KDE people care about licensing stuff seems to be one of his specialities.19:33
debfxyofel: there are a bunch of new symbols in kdesdk19:36
rbelemapachelogger, iirc class10 maximum speed is 12MB/s19:38
Tm_TScottK: hmm, I suppose, will try make it happen tonight19:40
bambeeping: who did destroy my xorg session ? everything is dead here o_O19:41
bambeemy keyboard is blocked randomly, my mouse too19:41
bambeeI've unplug it to get it work 19:42
bambee(nice... isn't it ?)19:42
yofel_debfx: I'll blame the toolchain, are you updating them or should I?19:43
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
debfxyofel: I'll update them19:48
bambeehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/642125/ <--- WTF?19:49
yofelyou did funny things to your X ^^19:49
bambeeyofel: I just upgraded my system19:53
apacheloggerrbelem: well, does the reader even support it ^^19:55
rbelemapachelogger, yup20:06
rbelemapachelogger, if it supports sd hc20:06
bambeeno sound... yeahh!!! xD20:10
bambee:'(20:10
apacheloggerrbelem: does the n900? :P20:10
bambeeDid someone upgrade his system today ? especially these packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/642167/21:05
bambeeor does someone get this wtf .xsession-errors ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/642168/21:06
yofelbambee: you obviously don't follow #ubuntu+1 - there's bug 807306 being discussed all day. Seems to cause X issues, maybe yours too21:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80730621:11
yofelcheck if downgrading udev helps21:12
bambeeit's already downgraded21:12
bambeesame thing21:12
yofelhm21:13
bambeethe big problem is not really the keyboard and the mouse => nothing works21:13
yofelI didn't reboot here yet today, so dunno, sorry ^^21:13
bambeeyofel: eveything works again :)21:45
yofel:)21:45
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
rbelemapachelogger, i think it does22:17
NCommanderScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.6/+bug/807573 - the libkdraw was reported over teh weekend, I'll track it for you23:02
ubottuUbuntu bug 807573 in Linaro GCC "[armel / 4.6 regression] could not find a spill register" [High,Triaged]23:02
ScottKNCommander: Thanks.23:02
NCommanderScottK: NP, sorry that I didn't get around to looking at this stuff until now (today been busy)23:02
ScottKyofel: ^^^ Yon bug report has a potential work around for the libkdcraw FTBFS on armel.  Might be worth trying.23:06

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