[00:00] <ScottK> apachelogger: kolourpaint4 breaks/replaces kolourpain isn't needed.
[00:07] <ScottK> apachelogger and debfx: all the existing plunder is in.  Please send more.
[01:32] <ScottK> Looks like we could use some MIR work https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-July/000249.html
[01:38] <LaserJock> ScottK: do you really want to MIR those?
[01:39] <ScottK> Not sure.
[01:39] <LaserJock> or could you move to Suggests or something
[01:39] <ScottK> I didn't actually look into it.
[01:39] <LaserJock> everything but blinken and edict are font packages
[01:39] <LaserJock> blinken might make sense since it is part of KDE Edu
[01:44] <LaserJock> ScottK: if you move them to Main would that imply that they would go on the CD?
[01:44] <ScottK> LaserJock: Or on the dvd.
[01:44] <ScottK> Most of those are from kdeedu.
[01:46] <LaserJock> yeah
[01:46] <LaserJock> I don't remember why blinken was demoted but it hasn't been in Main for as long as I worked with Edubuntu
[01:47] <LaserJock> it could be just a historical thing
[01:47] <ScottK> ttf-sjfonts would have to be promoted too, but that's trivial.
[04:36] <yofel> yay, armle build of marble worked, the symbols don't match though :S
[04:36] <yofel> *armel
[04:56] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/libmarblewidget12.symbols symbol updates
[04:56] <yofel> meh, amd64 symbols refreshed, stupid toolchain
[04:56]  * yofel rebuilds armel
[04:58] <yofel> bbl
[05:37] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/libmarblewidget12.symbols update with armel symbols
[06:58] <ScottK> yofel: http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1240908&view=revision needs to get added to our 4.6.5 packages.  It's 3am here, so I'm off to bed.  Please fix/find someone to fix.
[07:04] <shadeslayer> i can do that if you want
[07:28] <yofel> re
[07:28] <yofel> shadeslayer: are you adding it?
[07:28] <shadeslayer> yus
[07:30] <yofel> hm, how was that gpg agent supposed to launch at login again?
[07:31] <yofel> it's not running in O here :/
[07:34] <shadeslayer> ubottu: botsnack
[07:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: is your server down or sth?
[07:35] <yofel> it's not
[07:35] <shadeslayer> weird, can't ssh
[07:35] <shadeslayer> yofel.dyndns.org: Name or service not known ...
[07:36] <yofel> shadeslayer: blame your DNS I would say
[07:36] <yofel> does 93.231.158.173 work?
[07:36] <shadeslayer> yup
[07:36] <shadeslayer> works now, looks like a temporary issue
[07:40] <shadeslayer> yofel: what happens if my pbuilder runs out of space when using tmpfs?
[07:40] <shadeslayer> does it start swapping?
[07:40] <yofel> yes
[07:40] <shadeslayer> kewl
[07:41] <bambee> morning
[07:41] <yofel> make sure you've got enough swap :P
[07:41] <yofel> no space left on device is better than oom-kill 
[07:41] <shadeslayer> hah :D
[07:41] <yofel> good morning bambee
[07:41] <shadeslayer> morning bambee
[07:42] <bambee> hi :)
[07:42] <yofel> heh, kross-interpreters changelog:
[07:42] <yofel>   2   * "Bye bye to you, ugly monolithic kdebindings" release.
[07:43] <shadeslayer> :D
[07:45] <yofel> couldn't have said it better :P
[07:50] <bambee> lol
[07:52] <bambee> Can someone change the topic to put kde "4.6.95" ?
[07:52] <shadeslayer> bambee: you can do it too
[07:53] <Quintasan> Good morning
[07:53] <bambee> shadeslayer: really? I did not know xD
[07:55] <Quintasan> Are we done with uploading to main yet?
[07:55] <yofel> uh, no?
[07:56] <Quintasan> yofel: What is that you wanted me to review?
[07:56] <yofel> marble
[07:56] <yofel> it's a globe full of fun copyrights
[07:56] <Quintasan> Oh snap.
[07:56] <Quintasan> Gotta make tea then
[07:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I guess you are done with the Ark 4.6.5 fix which was posted on kde-packagers
[07:57] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: its building here, will upload in a couple of minutes
[07:57] <Quintasan> Awesome.
[07:57] <yofel> btw. can someone with superpowers take care of bug 808650 ?
[07:58] <yofel> and make ScottK promote that to main
[07:58] <Quintasan> I do not think I can do that
[07:58] <shadeslayer> only a archive admin can do that
[07:59] <Quintasan> ScottK: Did you get cjwatson to run that magical packageset script?
[07:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: iirc he did
[07:59] <Quintasan> yofel: I recommend that you use warp-and-sort
[07:59] <Quintasan> Making stuff look like that by hand is fine but warp-and-sort is just wra<tab> :P
[08:00] <yofel> ah
[08:00]  * Quintasan goes off to make some tea
[08:02] <shadeslayer> warp-and-sort?
[08:05] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: go to some directory with debian/ and issue it and look at debian/control
[08:06] <shadeslayer> oooh
[08:06] <shadeslayer> that is one fancy script
[08:17] <yofel> bbl
[08:39] <Quintasan> yofel: Marble looks fine to me, unless I missed some licensing foo it should be good to upload
[08:58] <debfx> shadeslayer: in the libkipi copyright file you don't really say that most files are GPLv2
[09:01] <Quintasan> debfx: Would you mind re-reviewing parley in a minute?
[09:02] <Quintasan> debfx: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/parley_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2 <-- new tarball and I pushed updated copyright magic to bzr
[09:03] <Quintasan> yofel: ping
[09:03] <debfx> Quintasan: can do
[09:03] <Quintasan> debfx: Thanks
[09:07] <Quintasan> debfx: Please leave comments on wiki https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[09:16] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: looks like cjwatson did not run the script
[09:16] <Quintasan> :S
[09:21] <Quintasan> debfx: How do I check in which packageset a package is?
[09:32] <debfx> Quintasan: no, but presumably there is some lpapi method to do that
[09:43] <Quintasan> ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/94267/ <-- I asked cjwatson to add these to packageset so far
[09:44] <Quintasan> debfx: In case you wanted to know edit_acl.py can do this stuff -> lp:ubuntu-archive-tools
[09:45] <debfx> ah, I only used edit_acl to dump all packages in a packageset
[09:46] <Quintasan> debfx: I grepped the output :P
[09:47] <apachelogger> debfx: I hardly think that lintian warning is sufficient reason for multiple binaries
[09:47] <apachelogger> debfx: at best I'd go for suggests okular
[09:47] <apachelogger> Quintasan: did you bzr push kdemm yet?
[09:48] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I did not
[09:48] <apachelogger> ScottK: about "apachelogger: kolourpaint4 breaks/replaces kolourpain isn't needed." ... that is from the old packaging, supposedly we can drop it, kolourpaint was last in hardy IIRC
[09:48] <apachelogger> Quintasan: plz do
[09:48] <debfx> apachelogger: it's not about the lintian warning itself but the reason why it's emitted
[09:48] <apachelogger> debfx: which is?
[09:50] <debfx> the package installs a desktop file with MimeType=... so you'll get an error when you try to open those and okular isn't installed
[09:51] <apachelogger> debfx: tryexec is the fix to that
[09:53] <debfx> apachelogger: ok. also I think the package name is too generic as it's hardly the only software that deals with mobipocket
[09:56] <apachelogger> true
[09:56] <apachelogger> kdegraphics-mobipocket?
[09:56] <apachelogger> perhaps we can get upstream to change it too
[10:00] <CIA-52> [kiten] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711100001-fm7gqv5g9vaawcoz * debian/ (kiten.docs copyright) document license for dict files and install it to kiten docs
[10:00] <CIA-52> [kiten] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711100050-e36dh324pdxh08qa * releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[10:01] <Quintasan> debfx: Did you upload Parley?
[10:03] <Quintasan> debfx: If so then thanks, if no then why the hell did it upload? :P
[10:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: kiten in new again
[10:04] <debfx> Quintasan: yep. the copyright file was incomplete but I've fixed that (see bzr branch)
[10:04] <apachelogger> that dictionary situation really ought to be discussed with upstream
[10:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: is kate fixed yet?
[10:08] <CIA-52> [kdewebdev] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711100800-ss2yegxe8nt669wn * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[10:08] <CIA-52> [kdewebdev] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711100819-yzdrs0iv10al9i5u * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[10:11] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Apparently it is, wiki states it needs upload
[10:19] <apachelogger> Quintasan: kdemm?
[10:19] <apachelogger> anyone got time to test a natty-proposed package real quick?
[10:22] <apachelogger> bambee: did you merge propose kdeutils?
[10:25] <apachelogger> meh, no sd cards today :(
[10:29] <yofel> Quintasan: pong
[10:30] <CIA-52> [kdetoys] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711102950-2ypfdv0xz9qyonfn * debian/control don't introduce pointless dependency precision handled by kde-sc-dev-latest
[10:31] <CIA-52> [kdetoys] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711103108-3usnau9vljbvxwm9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[10:32] <bambee> apachelogger: no
[10:32] <bambee> I will propose a merge now
[10:32] <apachelogger> kthx
[10:36] <bambee> yofel: I don't understand your changes in kdeutils-4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa2, why a ~ppa2?
[10:37] <bambee> where is the ~ppa1?
[10:37] <yofel> ah, I probably synced that with bzr and didn't add a new changelog for that
[10:37] <bambee> it's not in bzr yet
[10:37] <yofel> or wait, I think that was just a rebuild
[10:37] <bambee> that's why I don't understand...
[10:37] <yofel> for fixed kde-workspace
[10:38] <CIA-52> [kdesdk] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711103820-x6f5jqw0sreev4my * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-1ubuntu1
[10:38] <bambee> mhhh
[10:40] <apachelogger> yofel: can you plz confirm bug 708508
[10:41] <apachelogger> well, verify really
[10:41] <yofel> once I get home to my natty system, sure, will take ~1h
[10:41] <apachelogger> kthx
[10:45] <CIA-52> [rocs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110711104531-bsktsnd1j6w9fz98 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[10:51] <Quintasan> yofel: nvm I tried uploading kde-baseapps but I had no access
[10:51] <Quintasan> yofel: Shouldn't ~ppa2 contain the regression patch?
[10:51] <Quintasan> of kdeutils
[10:52] <yofel> 4.6.5? I didn't touch it
[10:52] <Quintasan> 4.6.90 had that as well
[10:52] <yofel> ah, I didn't add it
[10:52] <Quintasan> 4.6.95 should be fixed so don't sweat it
[10:53] <Quintasan> yofel: Shall I upload kde-baseapps -ubuntu2
[10:53] <Quintasan> ?
[10:54] <yofel> feel free to, has a fixed copyright file, not that important though
[10:54] <Quintasan> Copyright magic is important!
[10:54]  * Quintasan wants a excuse to try uploading
[10:54] <yofel> lol
[10:57] <bambee> https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kdeutils/+merge/67523 :)
[11:02] <Quintasan> yofel: Accepted :D
[11:02] <yofel> ^^
[11:02] <shadeslayer> hmm, nouveau actually works ...
[11:03] <yofel> as long as you don't have my noteboot it does
[11:03] <yofel> *notebook
[11:03] <shadeslayer> hahahah
[11:03] <shadeslayer> well, a couple of my windows are freezing, except for that, works well
[11:05] <bambee> shadeslayer: what videocard have you?
[11:05] <shadeslayer> nvidia 8600 MGT
[11:06] <shadeslayer> for some reason i can't install nvidia-current, and nouveau was the next best thing
[11:07] <bambee> nouveau should just work with this card
[11:07] <shadeslayer> it is :)
[11:07] <bambee> :)
[11:08] <bambee> which kernel? :D
[11:08] <shadeslayer> 2.6.38-10-generic
[11:09] <shadeslayer> oh btw : http://paste.ubuntu.com/641809/
[11:09] <bambee> for some reason linux-3.0 is unsable with nouveau and gallium here :\
[11:09] <shadeslayer> oh ...
[11:09] <bambee> I've to switch to 2.6.38 and everything works fine
[11:11] <shadeslayer> my entire interwebz is *crawling* for some reason
[11:12]  * shadeslayer fixes DNS's
[11:28]  * nigelb waves
[11:28] <nigelb> this is one channel I forgot from my autojoin :/
[11:28] <yofel> heh, wb :)
[11:33] <Quintasan> nigelb: How could you :<
[11:33]  * Quintasan waves to nigelb
[11:34] <nigelb> Quintasan: :( No excuses
[11:34] <Quintasan> nigelb: Well, now that you are here you are forgiven ;)
[11:34] <nigelb> hehe
[11:36] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Is kate fixxxx0rd?
[11:36] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yes, but hold on just one sec
[11:36] <Quintasan> Fix what you have to fix and I will upload
[11:36] <shadeslayer> lemme run that sort script
[11:36] <Quintasan> review and upload*
[11:36] <Quintasan> wrap-and-sort
[11:37] <shadeslayer> yep, thats the one
[11:38] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 17 * debian/ (control copyright kate-data.install kate-dev.install) Minor clean up using wrap-and-sort
[11:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: done, get packaging from bzr, tarball from ninjas
[11:39] <apachelogger> Quintasan: are you continuing uploads of new stuff?
[11:40] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Ah, what's up with the stuff marked as NEW on Wiki?
[11:40] <apachelogger> Quintasan: it is in source new
[11:40] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/step] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (control copyright) wrap-and-sort cleanup
[11:40] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I wanted to upload kate since it is marked as needs upload
[11:41] <yofel> fun script, bbiab
[11:41] <apachelogger> Quintasan: and?
[11:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: And nothing
[11:41] <apachelogger> k :P
[11:41] <Quintasan> reviewing and uploading kate
[11:42]  * apachelogger is doing phonon stuff for the rest of the day
[11:42] <debfx> bambee: is the libkexiv2 package ready?
[11:42] <Quintasan> apachelogger: kross-interpreters <-- find someone to sync that
[11:43] <apachelogger> file sync request and find an archive admin employed by canonical
[11:43] <apachelogger> not high priority though IIR the dep graph correctly
[11:44] <shadeslayer> herp derp
[11:44] <shadeslayer> kdevelop introduced libqtwebkit-dev as a dep in a minor release
[11:44] <shadeslayer> someone should spank them
[11:46] <shadeslayer> or not ...
[11:46] <shadeslayer> one of our packages misses a depends on libqtwebkit-dev
[11:47] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Be more specific
[11:49] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: previously libqtwebkit-dev was pulled in automagically when building kdevelop
[11:50] <shadeslayer> now its not
[11:50] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Maybe it was dropped in that package?
[11:50] <shadeslayer> probably, looking at the build deps
[11:52] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kdelibs5-dev needs to depend on libqtwebkit-dev it seems
[11:52] <bambee> debfx: it is
[11:52] <bambee> debfx: it has been merged two days ago
[11:53] <debfx> shadeslayer: I've dropped that dependency while merging kdelibs
[11:53] <shadeslayer> oneiric : http://paste.kde.org/94309 , natty : http://paste.kde.org/94315
[11:53] <shadeslayer> ah
[11:53] <shadeslayer> debfx: ok, adding deps to kdevelop then
[11:54] <Quintasan> I was about to write that if it had to depend on webkit then it would have failed
[11:54] <Quintasan> it being kdelibs
[11:55]  * Quintasan goes on a break
[11:55]  * jussi breaks Quintasan
[11:56] <debfx> bambee: ok, I'll upload it
[11:56]  * Quintasan throws bricks at jussi
[11:56] <jussi> hehe
[11:56]  * shadeslayer gives jussi a dual portal gun
[11:57] <jussi> what the heck is a dual portal gun?
[11:57]  * Quintasan sets the portals so bricks fall at shadeslayer endlessly
[11:57] <shadeslayer> jussi: :O
[11:57] <Quintasan> jussi: It's a gun that opens portals
[11:57] <shadeslayer> jussi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A88YiZdXugA
[11:58] <shadeslayer> its a flipping awesome game
[11:58] <shadeslayer> iirc its 25 USD on steam these days
[12:09] <ScottK> yofel: Why does kross-interpreters need to be in Main?
[12:09] <ScottK> Quintasan: I saw the discussion about packagset changes on #ubuntu-devel.  Great (you're in a better TZ for such discussions with him anyway).
[12:13] <yofel> re
[12:14] <yofel> ScottK: seems like it in fact doesn't need to be in main. parley used to recommend it but Quintasan dropped that it seems for 4.6.90
[12:14] <yofel> Quintasan: any specific reason for that?
[12:16] <ScottK> apachelogger: Yes, but it was carried forward into the new packaging and should be dropped (kolourpaint)
[12:16] <apachelogger> right
[12:16] <apachelogger> that is what I said :P
[12:16] <ScottK> I'll have a look at kiten in a bit.
[12:16] <ScottK> Please keep the plunder coming.
[12:17]  * nigelb blinks and reads channel name again
[12:17]  * apachelogger is doing phonon and looks at Quintasan and debfx
[12:17]  * apachelogger wonders whatever happend to JT
[12:17] <shadeslayer> job?
[12:18] <apachelogger> 24/7?
[12:18] <shadeslayer> job+minecraft+tf2 then :P
[12:18] <apachelogger> that sounds more like it
[12:18] <nigelb> shadeslayer: you have a job now?
[12:18]  * apachelogger waves fist
[12:18] <apachelogger> lazy children
[12:18] <shadeslayer> nigelb: not me, JT
[12:19] <nigelb> ah
[12:19] <apachelogger> nigelb: dont be ridiculous :P
[12:19] <shadeslayer> oh any ideas if DarkwingDuck got into canonical?
[12:19] <apachelogger> since he has not said anything in here for like weeks I presume so
[12:26] <rbelem> apachelogger, i got plasma-active running from neon packages, but built from different branches
[12:27] <apachelogger> rbelem: I got it with oneiric :P
[12:27] <apachelogger> actually straight forward
[12:27] <apachelogger> we only need to package kdelibs experimental
[12:28] <rbelem> apachelogger, :-D
[12:28]  * apachelogger tries to fix his X right now though :P
[12:28] <apachelogger> somehow broke it with gles stuff
[12:28] <rbelem> apachelogger, it needs some other branch of kde-runtime
[12:28] <apachelogger> rly?
[12:28] <rbelem> yup
[12:28] <apachelogger> well, I did not start it yet
[12:29] <apachelogger> surely it is well documented
[12:29] <apachelogger> ...
[12:29] <rbelem> i tried with master and i got lots of errors
[12:30] <rbelem> then i checkout to active-development/4.7
[12:30] <rbelem> and it worked
[12:31] <apachelogger> oh, that is entirely possible
[12:31] <apachelogger> well, depending on their changes we might be able to package that easily
[12:31] <rbelem> apachelogger, but i'm stille getting this error "Error loading QML file. 24: module "org.kde.plasma.slccomponents" is not installed"
[12:32] <apachelogger> rbelem: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/share-like-connect
[12:32] <apachelogger> that should contain slc IIRC
[12:33] <rbelem> apachelogger, we need to freeze a version before they start making changes for kde 4.8
[12:33] <rbelem> apachelogger, nice :-) thanks
[12:33] <apachelogger> well
[12:34] <apachelogger> I think they will have to work against 4.8
[12:34] <apachelogger> sebas wants a stable release by september or something
[12:34] <apachelogger> wouldnt be much stable if it ran on 4.8
[12:34] <rbelem> apachelogger, awesome
[12:34] <apachelogger> at any rate we could in theory build special versions of libs and stuff
[12:35] <Quintasan> yofel: I did drop that?
[12:35] <Quintasan> It must have been by accident
[12:35] <apachelogger> but then we'd have kdelibs twice in memory
[12:35] <apachelogger> that surely would not be nice
[12:35] <rbelem> apachelogger, and find the specific revision would be painful
[12:36] <apachelogger> rbelem: well, if they work against 4.8 we can just take latest master, as that is bound to be working ;)
[12:36] <yofel> apachelogger: what gst package do I need to install? all of them?
[12:36] <apachelogger> yes
[12:36] <apachelogger> when?
[12:36] <apachelogger> for what?
[12:36] <apachelogger> why?
[12:36] <yofel> gst SRU?
[12:37] <apachelogger> ah
[12:37] <apachelogger> whatever phonon-gstreamer depends on
[12:37] <apachelogger> then export PHONON_GST_GST_DEBUG=5
[12:37] <apachelogger> almost no output should be generated
[12:37] <apachelogger> then upgrade libgstreamer0.10
[12:38] <apachelogger> try again
[12:38] <apachelogger> your system should almost die now from the amount of debug
[12:38] <apachelogger> if you want to die it for realz try with 9 instead of 5 :P
[12:38] <rbelem> apachelogger, do we have packages for share-like-connect?
[12:39] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: kdevelop ftbfs
[12:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: sawn, working on it
[12:40] <shadeslayer> i think its because i removed quilt
[12:41] <yofel> bah
[12:41]  * yofel exported the wrong var
[12:41] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: did you upload kate?
[12:41] <yofel> GAAAH
[12:41] <yofel> apachelogger: works
[12:42] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Not yet
[12:42] <apachelogger> yofel: please comment and set tag verification-done or something
[12:42] <apachelogger> yofel: thanks :)
[12:42] <yofel> doing already
[12:43]  * yofel tries to get a oneiric VM and check what happens if you run kdepim 4.4 with kde 4.7
[12:49] <ScottK> yofel: I think it's not supported.
[12:53] <yofel> apachelogger: since I agree with ScottK there, are you sure we should put that into experimental?
[12:54] <apachelogger> yes
[12:54] <apachelogger> and for the reason please have a look at irclogs
[12:54]  * apachelogger reasoned like 3 times why it is supremely dangerous to go directly to oneiric with 4.7
[12:55]  * apachelogger broke his X
[12:55] <apachelogger> rbelem: how much faster is class10?
[12:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: same here
[12:55]  * apachelogger did not receive his cards today so he is a bit sad
[13:03] <ScottK> pykde source accepted.
[13:15] <ScottK>  libkexiv2 source accepted.
[13:19] <ScottK> Why does libkipi-dbg both Depends libkipi8 (= ${binary:Version}) and Suggests libkipi8 (= ${source:Version})
[13:19] <ScottK> Should be fixed.
[13:21] <ScottK> Otherwise I think it's OK.  Accepting.
[13:31] <shadeslayer> ScottK: actually thats fixed in bzr
[13:31] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Rohan Garg * 10 * debian/ (control copyright) Wrap and sort
[13:33] <shadeslayer> wth kdevelop is ftbfs
[13:37] <ScottK> OK.
[13:37] <ScottK> parley source accepted.
[13:38] <shadeslayer> wtf, kdevelop builds just fine on my laptop
[13:38] <shadeslayer> and in the PPA it fails :S
[13:49] <ScottK> libkexiv2 binaries accepted.
[13:50] <debfx> PSA: please disable dh_auto_test only if it's really necessary
[13:51] <ScottK> libkipi binaries accepted.
[13:52] <ScottK> You ought to be able to upload things that use those binaries in an hour.
[13:59] <shadeslayer> oh good god, kded4 is at 100%
[14:02] <ScottK> kiten source accepted.
[14:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should implement detection for ran away modules :P
[14:06] <shadeslayer> i would, if i had any idea how it is supposed to be done
[14:07] <ScottK> Good timing with marble.
[14:07] <ScottK> I'd just finished the rest of the stuff.
[14:14] <debfx> so what packages are missing to get a ~working kde again?
[14:15] <apachelogger> workspace should be up again
[14:15] <apachelogger> actually I built plasma-mobile earlier today so I doubt there is much breakage left in the workspace area ^^
[14:16] <ScottK> Why isn't the binary for pykde4 not python-kde4?
[14:16] <ScottK> marble source is in.
[14:17] <yofel> bambee: ^
[14:18] <debfx> ScottK: I don't understand, too many negations ;)
[14:18] <ScottK> The binary in pykde4 is pykde4.
[14:18] <ScottK> I would have expected it to be python-kde4.
[14:18] <ScottK> Why not that?
[14:18] <yofel> It's python-kde4 in bzr
[14:18] <debfx> ScottK: the binary is python-kde4
[14:19] <ScottK> Sorry
[14:19] <ScottK> LP U/I confused me.
[14:19] <ScottK> Nevermind
[14:19] <yofel> bambee: unping ^^
[14:22] <apachelogger> stupid lp
[14:22] <bambee> yofel: ?
[14:22] <bambee> ah
[14:22] <bambee> ok
[14:22] <yofel> sry
[14:22] <bambee> np :)
[14:34] <debfx> shadeslayer: why does kate-dbg depend on libc6-dbg [amd64]?
[14:37] <shadeslayer> debfx: it shouldn't , i forgot to remove that
[14:37] <apachelogger> where is the sheytan :
[14:37] <apachelogger> S
[14:38] <shadeslayer> i saw him a couple of hours ago iirc
[14:38] <shadeslayer> debfx: fixed
[14:38] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 18 * debian/control Remove libc6-dbg from kate-dbg depends
[14:38] <yofel> ~seen sheytan
[14:38] <kubotu> sheytan was last seen 19 hours, 1 minute and 28 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[14:40] <ScottK> pykde4 binaries accepted.
[14:42] <debfx> shadeslayer: thanks. why is -DKDE_DISTRIBUTION_TEXT="Kubuntu packages" necessary?
[14:42] <yofel> leftover from kdelibs I would say
[14:42] <shadeslayer> debfx: it was being used in kdelibs, which is why i kept it
[14:43] <debfx> afaik it's only needed for kdelibs
[14:45] <shadeslayer> ok, fixing
[14:46] <shadeslayer> debfx: i'm going to hold off commiting this right now, let me know if you find any other issues, i'll fix all of them in one go
[14:47] <shadeslayer> i'll also enable tests since they did build the last time i checked
[14:47] <debfx> ok
[14:48] <debfx> shadeslayer: libkatepartinterfaces4.symbols has version 4.7.0
[14:48] <shadeslayer> debfx: yes, should that have been 4.7 ?
[14:49] <yofel> rather 4.6.90
[14:49] <debfx> 4:4.6.90
[14:49] <yofel> right
[14:50] <debfx> hrm, half the kate tests segfault
[14:51] <debfx> and the other half requires X ^^
[14:51] <shadeslayer> ok, should i just replace all those with 4:4.6.90 or go through the entire process of generating them again?
[14:51] <shadeslayer> debfx: yeah
[14:51] <shadeslayer> will keep them disabled
[14:52] <debfx> you can just replace the version
[14:52] <debfx> you can drop the breaks/replaces of kate-dev and libkatepartinterfaces4
[14:53]  * debfx wonders why lintian doesn't have a warning for packages that break or replace themselves
[14:54] <shadeslayer> fixed all of these issues
[14:56] <shadeslayer> question, does the 4.7.0 version at the end of the symbols file mean/do anything?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> or does it just represent the version against which the symbols were generated
[14:56] <apachelogger> yofel will know
[14:58] <debfx> shadeslayer: kate-dbg recommends kdelibs-bin (= ${binary:Version}). you can't do that because it's in a different source package
[14:58] <debfx> why does it recommend that anyway?
[14:58] <shadeslayer> right, thats wrong
[14:59] <shadeslayer> leftover from kdelibs i think
[14:59] <yofel> IIRC it's the version you generated them at, so the next check knows when the symbols are from. Or rather you as maintainer know when those symbols were added so you can decide what to do with them
[15:00] <shadeslayer> debfx: i don't think i need the Recommends field at all
[15:01] <debfx> shadeslayer: yes, imo depending on kdebase-runtime-dbg (like kdesdk-dbg) would be best
[15:01] <shadeslayer> indeed
[15:02] <shadeslayer> i guess thats kde-runtime-dbg now
[15:03] <debfx> yofel: how does the symbols version affect packages that link against the library? :)
[15:03] <yofel> apachelogger: that's as much as I know, iirc they also affect the versioned dependencies, but I'm not sure how
[15:03] <debfx> shadeslayer: ah, right
[15:04]  * yofel makes a note to read the dpkg-gensymbols manpage again later
[15:05] <shadeslayer> ^^
[15:05] <apachelogger> ^^
[15:05] <yofel> debfx: although, guessing from what I said, you can set a minimal version dependency on a library for other packages that depend on it?
[15:06] <yofel> or rather dpkg will do that from the symbols file
[15:07] <debfx> shadeslayer: W: kate-data: copyright-refers-to-deprecated-bsd-license-file
[15:07] <debfx> and I: kate: arch-dep-package-has-big-usr-share 3254kB 51%
[15:08] <shadeslayer> never seen that lintian error
[15:08]  * shadeslayer looks
[15:08] <debfx> i.e. all the arch independent stuff should be moved to kate-data
[15:08] <shadeslayer> hmm .. lets see
[15:10] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 19 * debian/ (control libkatepartinterfaces4.symbols rules) * kate-dev, libkatepartinterfaces4 : Don't Break/Replaces self
[15:10] <debfx> ./usr/lib/libkateinterfaces.so.4 should be in kate-dev instead of kate
[15:10] <debfx> ah no, it should be in libkatepartinterfaces4
[15:10] <shadeslayer> uh, but we have earlier shipped that file with kate
[15:11] <yofel> debfx: only libkatepartinterfaces4 has a seperate package as it was from kdelibs before, libkateinferfaces.so.4 was always in kate
[15:12] <yofel> should that get it's own package?
[15:13] <shadeslayer> so, should i move everything in /usr/share/ in kate to kate-data?
[15:14] <yofel> well, everything arch-indep, so yes
[15:14] <debfx> yofel: re your earlier question: you can but symbol files may override that
[15:14] <debfx> ah now I'm confused with all those similar named kate libs
[15:14] <yofel> happened to everyone here ^^
[15:15] <shadeslayer> yeah :P
[15:16] <debfx> what packages build-depend on kate-dev?
[15:17] <shadeslayer> wasn't there a script in kate that detects dupes
[15:17] <shadeslayer> can't find it anymore
[15:17] <yofel> debfx: don't think there are any. IIRC that package was created since a user complained he couldn't build kate plugins due to missing headers
[15:18] <debfx> yofel: every library that is covered by a -dev packages should be in an own package
[15:18] <yofel> ok, agreed
[15:20] <shadeslayer> so split out libkateinterfaces?
[15:20] <yofel> yes
[15:20] <yofel> it's not in /usr/lib/kde4/ either
[15:21] <shadeslayer> so public lib, needs new symbols
[15:21] <shadeslayer> anything else?
[15:22] <debfx> there is also libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so
[15:24] <shadeslayer> so ... libktexteditor0 ?
[15:24] <yofel> rather the full name, at least it's versioned
[15:26] <yofel> as in libktexteditor-codesnippets-core0 I think
[15:26] <shadeslayer> ok, i'm off to dinner for now, will cya in a bit
[15:29] <ScottK> rocs binaries acceptes.
[15:29] <ScottK> s/d
[15:32] <ScottK> marble binaries accepted.
[15:32] <ScottK> apachelogger: All the plunder is in.  Send more.
[15:33] <apachelogger> debfx: All the plunder is in. Send more.
[15:33] <yofel> debfx: with libkexiv2 and marble up kdeplasma-addons should be uploadable
[15:33]  * apachelogger is phonon overlord master supreme general king emperor minion today
[15:34] <ScottK> NCommander: I never heard back from anyone in #linaro about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkdcraw/4:4.6.90+repack1-0ubuntu1/+build/2616014/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.libkdcraw_4%3A4.6.90%2Brepack1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - plese help.
[15:38] <debfx> apachelogger: I've already reviewed too many packages today, I'll leave the rest for you tomorrow (since apparently we are the only kubuntu-devs that upload packages these days)
[15:39]  * apachelogger throws broken pornon code at Quintasan
[15:40]  * yofel wanted to redirect that to johnthetaco but he's not here...
[15:41] <debfx> another PSA: when you rename a package you need to conflict,replace,provide the old one
[15:41]  * apachelogger waves fist a bit
[15:42] <debfx> versioned breaks,replaces confuse apt in that case
[15:42] <apachelogger> debfx: in what case?
[15:43] <apachelogger> ah, provides
[15:43] <apachelogger> well
[15:43] <apachelogger> debfx: IIRC the policy suggests breaks these days
[15:43] <debfx> apachelogger: when you don't have a transitional package
[15:43] <apachelogger> perhaps it will work then
[15:43] <apachelogger> at any rate transitional package is the safest bet and should be used whenever possible
[15:43] <apachelogger> IMHO
[15:44]  * apachelogger rolls a dice to find out how to fix what he broke in phonon
[15:47] <debfx> apachelogger: afaik the policy only recommends breaks if it's versioned
[15:49] <apachelogger> debfx: well yes, randomly guessing, a versioned breaks, replaces might work in combination with provides
[15:49] <apachelogger> as conflicts replaces provides is implementation-wise a special case 
[15:50] <apachelogger> breaks and conflicts act on different states in the package state machine, so it is entirely possible that a versioned conflicts could mess things up whereas a breaks results in right behaviour
[15:51] <apachelogger> Quintasan: when do I get meego keyboard packages btw?
[15:53] <debfx> versioned breaks/conflicts/... don't make sense when you rename the package
[15:54] <debfx> since there won't be a new version of the old package
[15:57] <apachelogger> debfx: yeah, unless it gets renamed again
[15:58] <apachelogger> or another package takes the place for that matter
[15:58] <apachelogger> which is the more concerning case
[15:58] <apachelogger> cause in that case you'd need to create the new package and change the other package to use a versioned death relation
[15:58]  * yofel notes he had to fix some unversioned breaks replaces against some okular package somewhere
[15:58] <yofel> so this *does* happen
[16:01] <debfx> in that case you also need to drop the provides and it's all messy anyway
[16:09] <debfx> oh, kubuntu-desktop is broken, it depends on kdebase-workspace-bin
[16:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: aw crap, i just saw the Mid term eval mail 
[16:17]  * yofel totally forgot that it's dev week this week :/
[16:17] <yofel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[16:18] <yofel> python packaging sounds interesting
[16:18] <shadeslayer> that and Desktop Q&A
[16:19] <shadeslayer> won't be able to attend either
[16:19] <nigelb> Also, if you folks want to do a lighting talk about something, please find me.
[16:19] <nigelb> We have plenty of slots for lightning talks
[16:30] <debfx> we now have a package called kdewallpapers and another one called kde-wallpapers ^^
[16:31] <yofel> was wondering if we should rename kdewallpapers into kde-extra-wallpapers or so
[16:31] <yofel> or kde-wallpapers-extra, but that sounds like it's from kde-wallpapers, not kdeartwork
[16:33] <debfx> hm yes, though we'd have to keep kdewallpapers as a transitional package
[16:33] <yofel> yep
[16:34] <debfx> which makes 3 kde wallpaper packages :D
[16:34] <shadeslayer> more wallpapers for everyone \o/
[16:34] <yofel> well, it makes it look like we have more :P
[16:34] <debfx> I hope muon has some logic to hide transitional packages
[16:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why is that crap?
[16:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whats crap?
[16:36] <apachelogger> nigelb: can I lightning talk about fluffy?
[16:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you said aw crap
[16:36] <nigelb> apachelogger: yeah, sure!
[16:36] <apachelogger> woohooo
[16:36] <apachelogger> nigelb: I'll poke you later about that then ^^
[16:36] <apachelogger> or tomorrow
[16:36] <apachelogger> more likely tomorrow
[16:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ah, because now i'm in a state of panick since i missed that announcement
[16:37]  * apachelogger is rather deep in fancy code right now
[16:37] <nigelb> apachelogger: cool!
[16:37] <shadeslayer> s/panick/panic/
[16:37] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "apachelogger: ah, because now i'm in a state of panic since i missed that announcement"
[16:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ah, well, I just hold on to eean telling me what to do and when ^^
[16:37] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:37] <apachelogger> which might fail as he is rather busy with other things :S
[16:37] <apachelogger> there
[16:37] <apachelogger> now I am in a state of panic too
[16:37] <apachelogger> great job there
[16:37] <shadeslayer> wohoo :P
[16:38]  * apachelogger wonders how he managed to degrade drawing performance by 300%
[16:38] <shadeslayer> whoa
[16:39] <davmor2> apachelogger: did you look at something?  If so I'd start there and work back to things you touched and then changed and so on ;)
[16:40] <apachelogger> I was making sweet love to the code
[16:40] <apachelogger> so I was all over it
[16:40] <apachelogger> :S
[16:41]  * nigelb blinks seeing davmor2 
[16:41] <apachelogger> ah
[16:41] <apachelogger> no wond0r
[16:41] <apachelogger> QRectF(400.889,240.5 -1.77778x-1) 
[16:41] <apachelogger> that looks rather kaput
[16:41]  * apachelogger blames shadeslayer
[16:41]  * shadeslayer blames exams
[16:41] <davmor2> nigelb: Why?  I still test kubuntu and its browsers from time to time
[16:42] <nigelb> davmor2: Yah, the blink wwas seeing you everywhere
[16:42] <davmor2> muhahahaha
[16:45] <bambee> artifacts with nouveau ftw! 
[16:45] <bambee> play to urbanterror is just impossible, arrff :'(
[16:55] <DarkwingDuck> shadeslayer: not yet...
[16:55] <shadeslayer> DarkwingDuck: so the interviews are still going on?
[17:57] <DarkwingDuck> shadeslayer: they are concerned about my lack of QA but, Jono said I'm still the guy to beat.. I'll for 100% by the end of the month.
[17:57] <shadeslayer> ah, best of luck in that case :D
[17:58]  * ScottK notes a depressing lack of new plunder in New.
[18:00] <DarkwingDuck> We'll see how it goes.
[18:00] <debfx> ScottK: that leaves more time for you to review packages
[18:00] <ScottK> debfx: Well, I need to get some actual $WORK done today too, unfortunately.
[18:05] <debfx> sure, just saying that there is enough stuff to review even when NEW is empty ;)
[18:14] <ScottK> Yeah, understood.
[18:14] <ScottK> $WORK is really busy right now, so I'm trying to make sure I save most of my Kubuntu time for New since I'm the only one around who can do it.
[19:02] <ScottK> debfx: If you have a moment, kdesdk fails on powerpc.  That's the only arch where the new cmake got used.  Is there any chance this is due to a cmake bug? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/74989491/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-powerpc.kdesdk_4%3A4.6.90-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:02] <debfx> bambee: there are some uninstalled files in kdeutils like /usr/lib/kde4/kremotecontrol_lirc.so
[19:03] <bambee> debfx: fixing
[19:03] <debfx> /usr/share/kde4/services/kremotecontrolbackends/kremotecontrol_lirc.desktop and /usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/kremotecontrolmanager.desktop are the other ones
[19:04] <debfx> ScottK: I've built several packages using the new cmake without problems
[19:05] <debfx> there isn't an error message or am I missing something?
[19:05] <ScottK> I don't see one.
[19:05] <yofel> bambee: can you take another look at kdeplasma-addons too? There are themes in list-missing
[19:05] <bambee> yofel: sure
[19:06] <ScottK> Tm_T: Can you do a test build of kdesdk from oneiric on powerpc?
[19:08] <yofel> ScottK, debfx: error:
[19:08] <yofel> [ 84%] Building CXX object okteta/program/CMakeFiles/okteta.dir/mainwindow.o
[19:08] <yofel> cd okteta/program && /usr/bin/c++   -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII -D_REENTRANT -DKDE_DEPRECATED_WARNINGS -DKDE4_CMAKE_TOPLEVEL_DIR_LENGTH=13 -DQT_USE_FAST_CONCATENATION -DQT_USE_FAST_OPERATOR_PLUS -DQT_USE_FAST_CONCATENATION -DQT_USE_FAST_OPERATOR_PLUS -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII -DQT_NO_CAST_FROM_ASCII -DNO_STRUCTURES_TOOL -g -O2  -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -ansi -Wundef -Wcast-align -Wchar-
[19:08] <yofel> subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wformat-security -fno-exceptions -DQT_NO_EXCEPTIONS -fno-check-new -fno-common -Woverloaded-virtual -fno-threadsafe-statics -fvisibility=hidden -Werror=return-type -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DNDEBUG -DQT_NO_DEBUG -I. -I../../../okteta/program -I../../.. -I../.. -I../kasten/controllers -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/controllers -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/controllers/document -I../../..
[19:08] <yofel> /okteta/program/../kasten/controllers/view -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/controllers/view/libfinddialog -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/gui -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/gui/io -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/gui/view -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/core -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/core/io -I../../../okteta/program/../kasten/core/document -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/controllers -I../../..
[19:08] <yofel> /okteta/program/../libs/kasten/gui -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/gui/view -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/gui/io -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/gui/system -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/gui/shell -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/gui/controller -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/core -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/core/document -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/core/entity -I..
[19:08] <yofel> /../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/core/io -I../../../okteta/program/../libs/kasten/core/system -I../../../okteta/program/../gui -I../../../okteta/program/../core -I/usr/include/KDE -I/usr/include/qt4/phonon -I/usr/include/qt4/QtXmlPatterns -I/usr/include/qt4/QtXml -I/usr/include/qt4/QtUiTools -I/usr/include/qt4/QtTest -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSvg -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSql -I/usr/include/qt4/QtScriptTools -I/usr/include/qt4/QtScript -
[19:08] <yofel> I/usr/include/qt4/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/qt4/QtHelp -I/usr/include/qt4/QtDesigner -I/usr/include/qt4/QtDeclarative -I/usr/include/qt4/QtDBus -I/usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/Qt -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/default -I/usr/include/qt4    -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -o CMakeFiles/okteta.dir/mainwindow.o -c ../../../okteta/program/mainwindow.cpp
[19:08] <yofel> In file included from ../../../okteta/program/mainwindow.cpp:47:0:
[19:08] <yofel> ../../../okteta/program/../kasten/controllers/view/structures/structtool.h:30:35: fatal error: structviewpreferences.h: No such file or directory
[19:08] <yofel> compilation terminated.
[19:08] <yofel> make[4]: *** [okteta/program/CMakeFiles/okteta.dir/mainwindow.o] Error 1
[19:08] <ScottK> yofel: pastbin.
[19:08] <yofel> bah, sry
[19:08] <yofel> didn't seem that large at first glance
[19:09] <yofel> http://paste.kde.org/94495
[19:09] <bambee> o_O
[19:10] <debfx> it took the build system quite a while to realize that something failed ;)
[19:11] <ScottK> Yep.
[19:25] <ScottK> New plunder, ahoy!
[19:30] <ScottK> ksnapshot source accepted.
[19:31] <yofel> ScottK: response on kde bug 277370
[19:32] <ScottK> yofel: I see. "for free redistribution" is not suitable for Main.
[19:32] <ScottK> It seems it is, indeed, an issue that needs investigation.
[19:33] <ScottK> If only Riddell were around.  Making KDE people care about licensing stuff seems to be one of his specialities.
[19:36] <debfx> yofel: there are a bunch of new symbols in kdesdk
[19:38] <rbelem> apachelogger, iirc class10 maximum speed is 12MB/s
[19:40] <Tm_T> ScottK: hmm, I suppose, will try make it happen tonight
[19:41] <bambee> ping: who did destroy my xorg session ? everything is dead here o_O
[19:41] <bambee> my keyboard is blocked randomly, my mouse too
[19:42] <bambee> I've unplug it to get it work 
[19:42] <bambee> (nice... isn't it ?)
[19:43] <yofel_> debfx: I'll blame the toolchain, are you updating them or should I?
[19:48] <debfx> yofel: I'll update them
[19:49] <bambee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/642125/ <--- WTF?
[19:49] <yofel> you did funny things to your X ^^
[19:53] <bambee> yofel: I just upgraded my system
[19:55] <apachelogger> rbelem: well, does the reader even support it ^^
[20:06] <rbelem> apachelogger, yup
[20:06] <rbelem> apachelogger, if it supports sd hc
[20:10] <bambee> no sound... yeahh!!! xD
[20:10] <bambee> :'(
[20:10] <apachelogger> rbelem: does the n900? :P
[21:05] <bambee> Did someone upgrade his system today ? especially these packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/642167/
[21:06] <bambee> or does someone get this wtf .xsession-errors ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/642168/
[21:11] <yofel> bambee: you obviously don't follow #ubuntu+1 - there's bug 807306 being discussed all day. Seems to cause X issues, maybe yours too
[21:12] <yofel> check if downgrading udev helps
[21:12] <bambee> it's already downgraded
[21:12] <bambee> same thing
[21:13] <yofel> hm
[21:13] <bambee> the big problem is not really the keyboard and the mouse => nothing works
[21:13] <yofel> I didn't reboot here yet today, so dunno, sorry ^^
[21:45] <bambee> yofel: eveything works again :)
[21:45] <yofel> :)
[22:17] <rbelem> apachelogger, i think it does
[23:02] <NCommander> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.6/+bug/807573 - the libkdraw was reported over teh weekend, I'll track it for you
[23:02] <ScottK> NCommander: Thanks.
[23:02] <NCommander> ScottK: NP, sorry that I didn't get around to looking at this stuff until now (today been busy)
[23:06] <ScottK> yofel: ^^^ Yon bug report has a potential work around for the libkdcraw FTBFS on armel.  Might be worth trying.