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mwhudsonhow often does the publisher run for ppas?02:15
lifelessmwhudson: 60s IIRC02:17
wgrantmwhudson: Every 5 minutes.02:33
mwhudsonthanks02:33
mwhudsonreality appears to match wgrant a bit more closely02:33
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yofelhey, since a few days ago I'm getting06:13
yofelW: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  The requested URL returned error: 41606:13
yofelfrom apt. Launchpad or apt bug?06:13
lifelessyofel: thats range not satisfiable; weird06:41
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gesergets the Contents file for the main archive for oneiric not updated anymore? last modified on 04-May-201110:28
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jmlis there a guide somewhere for setting up a pre-merge testing thing with Launchpad? (ideally with Jenkins)10:32
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xguoanyone know this error ?11:28
xguobzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', 'Operation denied because it would change the main history, which is not permitted by the append_revisions_only setting on branch "lp-73500496:///~xiaohu-guo/fluidity/hybrid-assemble/".')11:28
henningexguo: what are you trying to do?11:29
xguoI am trying to commit my changes to my branch11:32
xguoI am using bzr ci -m ""  myfile11:33
henningexguo: are you trying to commit directly to the branch on launchpad?11:34
geserbigjools or wgrant: does the Contents file for the main archive for oneiric get not updated anymore? last modified on 04-May-201111:34
spivxguo: it's basically as the error says:11:35
xguoI have my check out my launchpad branch to my workstation, and I am commit from my workstation11:35
spivxguo: lp:~xiaohu-guo/fluidity/hybrid-assemble has the append_revisions_only option set, but the push or commit you are trying to do would cause some existing mainline revisions to change.11:36
xguooh, then what I can do with this ?11:36
spivxguo: e.g. if you compare the "bzr log" of your local branch and the remote one, they disagree about the revision number for some revisions, and that option says you want to prevent that.11:37
* henninge is happy spiv took over and goes to lunch11:37
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spivhenninge: actually I'm about to go to bed!11:37
henninge-lunchoh11:37
spivxguo: is it a branch or a checkout?11:37
spivxguo: if it's a branch, simplest is probably to make a fresh branch of lp:~xiaohu-guo/fluidity/hybrid-assemble, then merge your new changes into that and commit and push that back to lp11:38
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spivhenninge: (although probably #bzr can help out)11:38
henningespiv: sure thanks11:39
xguooh, thanks, will try that11:39
henningexguo: are you familiar with bzr or is that your first time using it?11:39
xguofirst time use it11:39
spivPossibly there's a simpler way, and if there isn't there probably should be.11:39
henningexguo: maybe you should go through a little documentation first so you understand the differences that a distributed vcs has over a system like subversion.11:41
henningehttp://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.3/en/11:42
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xguothanks henninge , the only change i have done is to following suggestions on http://amcg.ese.ic.ac.uk/index.php?title=Local:Using_branches_in_fluidity_development11:43
xguowhich is trying to "keep revision numbers of a branch stable"11:43
xguoI might screw something up11:44
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henningexguo: I am not familiar with that hack.11:46
spivSomeone should update that wiki page to suggest 'bzr config append_revisions_only=True -d URL'11:46
spivRather than mucking about with editing branch.conf via SFTP11:46
spivxguo: right, and that's why you got that error11:47
spivxguo: because you turned that option on, then tried to do something that would have not kept the revnos stable11:47
xguo:), so I have followed the wrong instructions ?11:48
henningexguo: what are you trying to achieve?11:48
spivI'm a little curious about how you got into that situation (where you were pushing/committing something that was not a strict append)11:48
xguoI am trying to backup  my changes to my launchpad branches11:49
xguoso basically, we have a main trunk , I check out a fresh one, and also check out my branch to my workstation as well,11:50
jmlis there a guide somewhere for setting up a pre-merge testing thing with Launchpad? (ideally with Jenkins)11:50
xguoevery time I bzr up the main trunk in my workstation, and then bzr pull to update the branch in my workstation before I am doing any changes in my local branch11:51
spivWell, you got an error, so you did something 'wrong' in that it didn't work for you.  I can't say if it's enabling append_revisions_only that was wrong for you, or if whatever it was you did that tripped the append_revisions_only check that was wrong for you though, without knowing more.11:51
spivI'm a bit surprised you got that error with checkouts.  I would have expected that trying to commit to an out of date checkout would simply tell you to run 'bzr update', and then that should avoid this problem.11:53
spivAnyway, I'm off to bed.11:53
spivG'night (and good luck!)11:53
henningespiv: thanks, good night11:53
xguospiv: thanks, good night11:54
henningexguo: I think you don't need the instructions for "keep revieion number stable" but I am not enough of a bazaar expert to help.11:56
henningexguo: to work with bazaar branches you will normally use the branch, commit, merge, pull and push commands.11:56
henningeI have to go now, sorry.11:57
xguothanks henninge11:57
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bigjoolsgeser: it's broken, it seems :/12:14
SteveExodusim thinking of doing my ubuntu building in obs now since it does debian and all the other main distros12:37
maxbobs?12:37
SteveExodusopen build service12:37
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SteveExodusi have obs configured to grab orig and dsc from lp at the moment12:39
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henningeadeuring: Hi! I think it's your turn now ;-)12:55
adeuringhenninge: it is our turn this week?12:55
henningeadeuring: well, the Thunderdome week would have been our week12:56
adeuringhenninge: we did CHR rotation last week...12:56
henningeadeuring: so this would be our next unless you did it last week12:56
henningeah, I see12:56
henningeadeuring: nm then12:56
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Laneyhey, what bugs can I watch to find out how close LP is to getting the sync button / API method? :-)13:10
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persiaSo, Over the past 10 minutes, I've pushed 8629kB at supposedly 8 or 9 kB/s for a new stacked branch in LP for a 3019 byte patch (according to bzr diff -r 1488 | grep wc -c).  Am I experiencing an issue with LP or bzr?  Is there anything useful that can be done to troubleshoot whilst I'm waiting?15:09
bigjoolspersia: sounds like it's not stacked15:15
bigjoolsor maybe stacked on the wrong place15:16
persiaDoes it not automatically try to stack on :parent?15:16
* persia gives up and goes to do something else, leaving the next experiment with bzr+LP for some time when there's nothing else to do15:23
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maxbpersia: What is the branch you are pushing?15:37
persiamaxb, lp:~persia/debian-installer/publish-omap-spl15:38
persiaAnd apologies for my fit of pique.  I'm less bothered now.15:39
maxbSo, that ought to auto-stack on lp:debian-installer15:39
persia(although I'm rapidly approaching a semantic transfer rate of 1 byte / sec)15:39
persiaWhy?  That's not what it's branched from.15:39
bdmurraybenji: I just updated the tags on bug that was incomplete and elligible for expiration 34 days from now and now date last updated has been updated and its now elligible for expiration in 59 days.  This doesn't seem like the best thing but it might just be me.15:40
persiaI did `bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/debian-installer/ubuntu; ${editing}; bzr push lp:~persia/debian-installer/publish-omap-spl`15:40
maxbThe default stacking logic is based on project/package development focus, not where you branched it from15:41
benjibdmurray: I don't understand.  Do you think the expiry date should not have changed or do you think it should have been pushed further than 59 days into the future?15:41
maxb(Whether that's a good thing or not is another question)15:41
persiamaxb, Ah, so every time I touch a branch for an Ubuntu effort, I have to restack N years of history to trunk?15:42
bdmurraybenji: I don't think the expiry date should have changed (well rather the date last updated since expiry date is calculated using that)15:42
persiaIs that something for which I can file a bug?15:42
bigjoolspersia: what branch is set as the development focus?15:43
bigjoolsthat's what it stacks on15:43
maxbHowever, I don't see any evidence of stacking in the branch currently being pushed, so I'd guess you might have run into the bug where if an empty branch exists at the destination from a previous push attempt that failed, stacking does not happen15:44
maxbThe dev focus is the debian git import15:44
persiaExcept I only typed bzr-push once, and I'm exceedingly unlikely to have ever used that name before, as I didn't notice it mattered until about an hour ago.15:44
maxbHmm15:44
benjibdmurray: we could create a set of "second class" edits that don't change the base modification date, but it doesn't seem like enough of a win for the complexity15:44
persiamaxb, Thanks: I was still looking :)15:44
persiaI'd argue that for the upstream project in LP, that's the correct development focus.15:45
maxbpersia: Is there any mention of "Creating new stacked branch ..." in your terminal?15:45
persiamaxb, No: it says "Using default stacking branch..."15:45
bdmurraybenji: okay that seems reasonable to me15:45
maxboh, ok, that's what I meant15:45
bigjoolsit's not the first push then15:45
persiaReally, I only ran bzr push once.15:45
persiaAnd really, nobody else should be playing in ~persia15:46
maxbCrikey, d-i is pretty big15:47
bigjoolsI think you can delete the branch in LP and re-push15:47
persiaI'm not done pushing yet.  Should I interrupt it?  How long should I wait for each of between interrupt and LP delete, between LP delete and re-push?15:48
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* maxb does a quick test of how much bzr transfers in this scenario15:48
persiaquick?15:48
maxbI'm fairly sure the slowest network segment between me and the LP datacentre is 100 Mbit :-)15:49
maxbLondon++15:49
maxbTransferred: 27761kB (486.1kB/s r:210kB w:27550kB)15:49
bigjoolsdon't take this personally, but I hate you :)15:49
persiaThe benefit there is latency, rather than bandwidth.   For long enough transfers, I can burst to ~50Mbit/sec to the DC from here.15:50
nigelbYeah, me too.15:50
maxbHah, OK - so : bzr push --stacked-on=bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/debian-installer/ubuntu lp:~maxb/debian-installer/test215:50
maxbTransferred: 68kB (17.8kB/s r:21kB w:47kB)15:50
persiaThat's kinda the behaviour I wanted.15:50
nigelbmaxb: Now I hate you a little less :)15:50
maxbI would suggest manually providing a suitable --stacked-on option for now (which unfortunately doesn't accept lp: URLs - I have been looking at fixing that), and filing a bug pointing out that bzr could definitely benefit from using the parent branch as a stacking hint, where launchpad is concerned15:52
persiamaxb, I'll definitely file the bug.  I'm loathe to stop the current push without some understanding of the timing involved in a new push.  Taking a couple hours to push a patch is one thing.  Taking several more hours while finding other issues is unlikely to be something I have the patience to complete.15:54
bigjoolspersia: push a different branch name then?15:54
persiaSo just interrupt, and then bzr push to a new name?15:54
persiaWhat sort of URL do I want for --stacked-on ?15:55
maxbpersia: I'd estimate your current push topping out at ~27MB, and a new push using around ~1MB15:55
maxbFor the stacked on option, copy mine from above15:55
persiaI'm at 25 MB now.15:55
persiaIf it finishes before I file the bug (waiting for LP to load ...), then I'll leave it.  Otherwise, I'll force stacking.15:56
persiamaxb, bug #808871: please edit if you know something that would make that report more useful.16:04
ubot5`Launchpad bug 808871 in Bazaar "bzr could definitely benefit from using the parent branch as a stacking hint, where launchpad is concerned" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80887116:04
persia(and thanks for distracting me: my push is done!)16:04
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de22benji, hello, i got some question regarding lauchpad, is there anyone ?17:27
benjide22: you can ask here or at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/17:28
de22alright, i'll try there17:30
czajkowskisinzui: ping17:37
sinzuiczajkowski, hi17:38
czajkowskisinzui: can you help or advise on a bug that may cause me to pull more of my hair out today please17:39
czajkowskihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/70072417:39
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 700724 in Launchpad itself "Subscription policy inherited from parent team member" [Critical,Fix released]17:39
czajkowskigod damn stupid london bus services17:39
sinzuiOh that is tricky17:39
czajkowskisinzui: you are killing me!!!!17:40
czajkowskisinzui: try and make my life easy today please :D17:40
czajkowskigmb: annoying bugs that effect locoteams which means my inbox gets full17:41
gmbczajkowski: Can you point me at  a bug number? I can't promise anything but I can at least suck at my teeth like a plumber and go "Hmm."17:42
sinzuiczajkowski, I think the goal is to set the core teams to delegated; they do not care if the child team is open or closed.17:42
czajkowskigmb: the one up there above where sinzui goes it's tricky17:42
gmbAh.17:42
czajkowskisinzui: but it;s still effecting teams, I thought this was fixed?17:43
gmbczajkowski: If sinzui thinks it's tricky, my chances are limited.17:43
czajkowskigmb: yer only lucky I wasn;t in Dublin mister!17:43
gmb:)17:43
sinzuimy head just popped thinking about it17:43
* sinzui tries to get the order right in his head17:43
sinzuiczajkowski, is there a specific team or group of teams you want to make open?17:44
czajkowskisinzui: leogg team seems to be one of the issues17:45
czajkowskithe guy who commented on the bug17:45
sinzuiokay17:45
sinzuiczajkowski, I cannot see a specific team of path that is part of the problem17:48
czajkowskican you say that to leogg17:48
czajkowskiplease17:48
sinzuiczajkowski, I will reply to the bug17:48
czajkowskicheers17:48
jmlis there a guide somewhere for setting up a pre-merge testing thing with Launchpad? (ideally with Jenkins)18:04
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