| anadon | hey, where are the moderators for #ubuntu? There's a troll mucking the whole channel up. | 02:43 |
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| rww | anadon: in #ubuntu-ops, but I'm one anyway and paying attention | 02:44 |
| anadon | kk | 02:44 |
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| genjix | hey how can i get oneiric? | 07:38 |
| genjix | i want to install it on a new system | 07:38 |
| genjix | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-2/ | 07:38 |
| genjix | that right? | 07:39 |
| paGos | genjix, just download it. | 07:39 |
| genjix | i use that link, right? | 07:39 |
| paGos | genjix, put it on a usb, boot the pc, read instructions, voila. | 07:39 |
| paGos | genjix, yes, that's the link. | 07:39 |
| genjix | thanks | 07:39 |
| floam | are there netinstall/minimal install CDs for oneric? | 07:44 |
| floam | (or, would it just be a matter of using an older one and playing with apt sources?) | 07:46 |
| rww | I think if you take the URL for the older ones and make the relevant substitution from natty to oneiric or whatever, that might work | 07:47 |
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| pfarrell | hi! I am trying to set up oneiric in a deboostrap chroot (a package I maintain is breaking on oneiric). When I run debootstrap, I get: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /data/pfarrell/oneiric dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-9ubuntu2_amd64.deb . What can I do? Is this a bug in oneiric? | 09:43 |
| dupondje | pfarrell: its a bug indeed | 10:01 |
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| dupondje | pfarrell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/+bug/802985 | 10:02 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 802985 in eglibc (Ubuntu Hardy) "[lucid] /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 399: arithmetic expression: expecting EOF: "3.0-0-generic"" [High,Triaged] | 10:02 |
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| pfarrell | dupondje: that isn't the error message I'm getting. I'm trying to create an oneiric system on maverick/natty, and I get a different error | 10:11 |
| pfarrell | and unfortunately installing alpha-2 in a virtualbox crashes :- | 10:11 |
| Daviey | anyone else having a really bad time with tbird atm? | 10:27 |
| yofel | pfarrell: known issue, though I don't remember the bug #. Create a natty chroot and dist-upgrade | 10:29 |
| pfarrell | yofel: good idea. | 10:29 |
| pfarrell | in a debootstrap, how do I install the relevant file for my locale (en_GB.UTF-8) ? | 10:41 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | has the repos regressed the kernel back to 3.0.0 ?...I see it has replaced 3.0.4 in the recent upgrade | 13:21 |
| robin0800 | BluesKaj, 303 was in alpha2 if thats what you mean | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | yeah I meant 3.0.3 , robin0800 | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | lost in dependency hell on my other box ...it's the experimental one ...guess I should have waited :P | 13:36 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: it's 3.0-3 -> 3.0.0-4 | 13:41 |
| yofel | no idea why they added the subversion again | 13:42 |
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| utusan | where does it looks in for the apps? IIRC it should be in /usr/bin? I added one there but it doesn't show up | 13:45 |
| Daekdroom | Yeah, given that 3rd number is now for the bugfix releases, and Ubuntu has omitted it in the past. | 13:45 |
| tsimpson | utusan: "it" looks in your $PATH | 13:45 |
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| tsimpson | the changelog entry for adding the third digit: "Adopt a 3 digit verion, e.g., 3.0.0-x.x" | 13:46 |
| utusan | tsimpson, of course and /usr/bin is there but why doesn't show up? | 13:46 |
| tsimpson | very descriptive | 13:46 |
| tsimpson | utusan: "show up" where? | 13:46 |
| utusan | in applications | 13:46 |
| utusan | gnome shell | 13:46 |
| tsimpson | because you need a .desktop file for that | 13:46 |
| utusan | oh ..ok..is there a template I can use? | 13:47 |
| tsimpson | look in /usr/share/apps, lots in there | 13:48 |
| jibel | yofel, that was announced at the release meeting last friday | 13:48 |
| jibel | <apw> oneiric-alpha-2 shipped with the 3.0-3.4 kernel whch was based on the mainline 3.0-rc5 release. We are shortly going to upload a 3.0-rc6 kernel. We are expecting the 3.0 final release shortly which represents our target kernel for oneiric. We are still seeing a trickle of issues with the 3.0 version number and it is likely Linus will release this kernel as 3.0.0 to avoid these userspace issues, we | 13:48 |
| jibel | <apw> will likely renumber our kernel also to match this and simplify backports to lucid. | 13:48 |
| tsimpson | or /usr/share/applications | 13:48 |
| utusan | tsimpson, ok.. thanks | 13:49 |
| yofel | thanks | 13:49 |
| airon90 | Hi, do someone know how to set default app without using buggy gnome-control-center? | 14:13 |
| rrva | hi.. I just upgraded from natty to oneiric and all my X input devices (mouse,keyboard) are suddenly silent. Xorg.log just mentions that udev manages them but no errors.. how to troubleshoot? | 14:46 |
| rrva | #807306 | 14:51 |
| rrva | udev seems broken | 14:52 |
| rrva | how do I manually force xorg to not use udev input devices but rather bypass that layer on ubuntu? | 14:57 |
| jakubo | hi, i got problems with pulseaudio. every now and then it stops working causing the system shutdown to halt. and now i got only approx. half the volume possible. | 15:28 |
| jakubo | i got a c-media-"something" chip. where alsamixer doesnt work | 15:28 |
| jakubo | the volume problem occurred when i changed the output from analog speakers to analog output and back | 15:29 |
| jakubo | also i need to reset the volume on every startup | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | alsamixer works better in most cases without pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is meant for fancier pci soundcards that have alot of options | 15:34 |
| Dimmuxx | any eta on when indicator-network will be installable again? | 15:35 |
| jakubo | the soundcard seems pretty fancy, but maybe the driver is not quite as feature rich... | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | once you set alsmixer up without pulseaudio in the way , it will usually hold the vol and other settings | 15:36 |
| jakubo | it says it doesnt find any mixer device | 15:37 |
| BluesKaj | jakubo, if you decide to keep pulseaudio , then install pavucontrol . it's agui for controlling pulseaudio settings | 15:37 |
| jakubo | is pulseaudio so immature? | 15:38 |
| BluesKaj | jakubo, type alsamixer in the terminal | 15:38 |
| jakubo | after the installation of pavumixer? | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | jakubo, alsamixer and pulsaudio are separate ...pa needs alsa because it's the driver for your soundcard , but alsa doesn't need pa...it's just a layered sound server that runs on top of alsa | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | fancy soundcard =pci card , IMO | 15:43 |
| jakubo | there is no alsamixer for my device | 15:43 |
| BluesKaj | jakubo, then install alsa-base and alsa-utils | 15:44 |
| jakubo | C-Media CM6501 is my chip, a-base and -utils still are installed | 15:44 |
| coz_ | good day all | 15:45 |
| h00k | So, is dist-upgrade recommended or not when running Oneric? | 15:48 |
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| charlie-tca | I use it all the time | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | especially as update-manager has been failing for a few days | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | jakubo, alsamixer. in the terinal doesn't bring it up ? | 15:49 |
| h00k | Because, if I understand it, it will install new packages if an update requires that new package, yes? | 15:49 |
| charlie-tca | there was a kernel update today, that you can't get with upgrade | 15:49 |
| jakubo | jup | 15:49 |
| charlie-tca | hooyup | 15:49 |
| charlie-tca | h00k: yes | 15:49 |
| charlie-tca | it will also things like the new kernel, that upgrade and safe-upgrade don't do. | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | s/also things/also install things | 15:50 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 1 to kick off in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 15:50 |
| Pici | And remove things! | 15:50 |
| Pici | !dist-upgrade | 15:51 |
| ubottu | A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. Please see !upgrade for the proper way to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu. | 15:51 |
| h00k | Perfect, that's what I just wanted to verify | 15:51 |
| charlie-tca | it always tells me to run auto-remove or something | 15:52 |
| jakubo | which worked fine for me when upgrading is to see what i being removed and if its being reinstalled in any way, then you can be pretty safe to have a working system after reboot | 15:53 |
| BluesKaj | well, it was apt-get upgrade that put me into dependnency hell a couple of days ago ...and none of my bag of fixes would work , so I reinstalled 11.04....gonna wait til the dust clears | 15:54 |
| coz_ | :) | 15:56 |
| Deithrian | omg guys what's going on o-o | 15:57 |
| jakubo | back to my sound issue, could it be i need to insall the oss modules? | 15:57 |
| Deithrian | just decided to try the alpha 2 and i can't even start the Update manager after the laterst updates | 15:58 |
| BluesKaj | no biggie ... I've learned to make a separate /home partition for my linux machines | 15:58 |
| BluesKaj | is wiser than the easy way | 15:59 |
| Deithrian | this must be the most unstable alpha yet :) | 15:59 |
| BluesKaj | jakubo, sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base , then the same for alsa-utils | 16:00 |
| BluesKaj | Deithrian, I'm inclined to agree | 16:01 |
| Deithrian | How am i supposed to update if the Update manager crashes?! | 16:02 |
| BluesKaj | use apt-get | 16:02 |
| Deithrian | Also there's a weird can't write to /udev or something error at boot and it falls back to /.udev ?! | 16:03 |
| jakubo | jup for me too | 16:03 |
| BluesKaj | that udev thing is a common occurrence , but iut doesn't seem affect much | 16:04 |
| trism | Deithrian: that's not a big deal, it is part of the /run transition, shouldn't happen for much longer now that we actually have /run | 16:04 |
| BluesKaj | to | 16:04 |
| jakubo | BluesKay: no hange for me after reinstall | 16:05 |
| jakubo | change* | 16:05 |
| Deithrian | o-o what about the constant crashes :| | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | it's alpha | 16:05 |
| Deithrian | never used an alpha like this one before o-o | 16:06 |
| Deithrian | did they change the world or something? | 16:06 |
| charlie-tca | No, it is doing what it expected in a development release | 16:06 |
| BluesKaj | jakubo, that's strange ...I have a c-media chip on my other pc ... didn't encounter that on 11.10.I've since reverted to 11.04 | 16:06 |
| charlie-tca | If the development release works perfect, why bother testing it? | 16:07 |
| jakubo | i have had the issue ever since ... i think 9.10 | 16:07 |
| Deithrian | ah come on :) when was the last time Update Manager didn't work in Alpha for you?! | 16:07 |
| BluesKaj | jakubo, hmm, then I think your c-media card might be kaput | 16:08 |
| Deithrian | BluesKaj, am i supposed to use apt-get update or something? o-o | 16:08 |
| Pici | I usually don't use Update Manager itself | 16:08 |
| BluesKaj | Deithrian, yes | 16:09 |
| charlie-tca | I use update manager every week or two to see if it works | 16:09 |
| jakubo | the 6501 chipset seems not to be liked by linux or vice versa | 16:09 |
| Deithrian | BluesKaj, that's all? o-o | 16:09 |
| BluesKaj | Deithrian, and upgrade as well | 16:09 |
| Pici | *dist-upgrade | 16:10 |
| Deithrian | nvm ill just use synaptic ._. | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | Pici, really ? maybe that should be noted in the motd | 16:11 |
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| rrva | oneiric disables gnome-shell. How get it back as default (currently running with unity) | 17:01 |
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| WelshDragon | Just installed updates and rebooted. When lightdm starts up my mouse and keyboard stop working. I can't even ctrl+alt+f1 to switch vt. Is it a known problem? | 17:12 |
| bjsnider | i believe so, yes | 17:12 |
| WelshDragon | Any workaround? | 17:13 |
| bjsnider | i'll try to get you the bug number so you can look | 17:14 |
| Daekdroom | WelshDragon, try reconnecting your peripherals | 17:14 |
| Daekdroom | I've read someone had to do that everytime he logged in. | 17:15 |
| bjsnider | that wouldn't work unless they were usb | 17:15 |
| bjsnider | ps/2 isn't hot swappable | 17:15 |
| Daekdroom | Oh. | 17:15 |
| WelshDragon | They are a USB | 17:16 |
| WelshDragon | I'll get off the livecd and give it a try | 17:16 |
| WelshDragon | thanks Daekdroom | 17:16 |
| WelshDragon | brb | 17:16 |
| WelshDragon | That worked Daekdroom, ty :) | 17:19 |
| Daekdroom | Well, it'd be good if there was a real fix, I suppose, but it should do. | 17:20 |
| jamesbond2 | Hi | 17:20 |
| jamesbond2 | I have issue with php / imap.so | 17:20 |
| jamesbond2 | http://pastebin.com/Krr4UJzW | 17:21 |
| bjsnider | bug 807306 | 17:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 | 17:22 |
| bjsnider | that's the keyboard & mouse thing | 17:22 |
| jamesbond2 | is this know issue? | 17:24 |
| jamesbond2 | known* | 17:25 |
| jamesbond2 | anyone? | 17:33 |
| Pici | jamesbond2: I suppose you can take our silence as us not knowing about it. I suggest looking for and/or logging a bug on launchpad for your issue. | 17:34 |
| jamesbond2 | ok | 17:34 |
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| carl0s- | I just apt-get dist-upgrade'd, and now my keyboard and mouse (thinkpad ultranav) are non-functioning in X. Basically I have to power off at the login screen. I'm in recovery mode right now. Any ideas for what to look at? | 17:53 |
| Pici | carl0s-: Its a known issue. See bug 807306 | 17:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 | 17:54 |
| Pici | Anyone know if the KDE 4.7 packages dropped into the repos? I'd like to get that out of the topic and add this new X issue. | 17:54 |
| carl0s- | Pici: thanks. I guess I just need to keep checking for new updates n stuff then.. :) | 17:55 |
| OneiricOne | Did and update and rebooted as required, now I am unable to use mouse or keyboard. How do I fix this? | 17:56 |
| Pici | OneiricOne: known issue See bug 807306 | 17:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 | 17:56 |
| === OneiricOne is now known as IdleOne | ||
| === Pici changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: discussion and support for Ubuntu Oneiric Ocelot | Release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Alpha 2 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-2/ | The KDE 4.7 packages will drop into the archive over the next few days - see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-July/005309.html | Keyboard & mouse not working in X? See https://launchpad.net/b | ||
| Pici | arg | 17:57 |
| IdleOne | thanks Pici | 17:57 |
| === Pici changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: discussion and support for Ubuntu Oneiric Ocelot | Release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Alpha 2 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-2/ | The KDE 4.7 packages will drop into the archive over the next few days - see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-July/005309.html | Keyboard & mouse not working in X? See http://pad.lv/807306 | ||
| Pici | IdleOne: Can you check if the KDE 4.7 packages landed? | 17:58 |
| BluesKaj | Pici, kde 4.7 is in the repos but it's still breaking things | 17:58 |
| Pici | IdleOne: nvm | 17:58 |
| Pici | BluesKaj: thanks | 17:58 |
| IdleOne | yeah I am running kubuntu | 17:58 |
| IdleOne | so unplug and replug...so simple I would have never thought about it | 17:59 |
| * IdleOne gives it a shot | 17:59 | |
| === Pici changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: discussion and support for Ubuntu Oneiric Ocelot | Release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Alpha 2 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-2/ | Known Issues: Keyboard & mouse not working in X? See http://pad.lv/807306 | ||
| Pici | Good enough | 17:59 |
| BluesKaj | kpassword is also broken | 18:00 |
| Pici | (now I get to say 'see topic' instead of 'known issue see bug #whatever') | 18:00 |
| BluesKaj | amongst many others, so don't reboot | 18:01 |
| IdleOne | well that fixed the mouse nbut keyboard is still not working :/ | 18:02 |
| IdleOne | I can get the mouse working and then select to login into console mode. keyboard works fine there | 18:08 |
| gpc | ok so console works | 18:11 |
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| IdleOne | so how do I get the system to see my ps/2 mouse ? | 18:27 |
| IdleOne | err keyboard not mouse | 18:27 |
| IdleOne | keyboard works in console, so the drivers are being loaded/usede right? how to keep them in use when starting X | 18:28 |
| IdleOne | used* | 18:29 |
| IdleOne | tried https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/807306/comments/20 stil no love | 18:31 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] | 18:31 |
| IdleOne | still* | 18:31 |
| jamesbond2 | we must wait for the fix | 18:36 |
| IdleOne | in the mean time I am sol :( | 18:38 |
| Pici | You're the sun? | 18:39 |
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| IdleOne | Pici, shinning brightly upon your face | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | I am staying inside for a while, it is too hot in the shade, even | 18:39 |
| IdleOne | basque in the glory of my light | 18:39 |
| BluesKaj | maybe the basques will object , IdleOne | 18:42 |
| htorque_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/807306/comments/20 works fine here | 18:42 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] | 18:42 |
| IdleOne | htorque_, can you paste you xorg so I can see exactly what you did? | 18:43 |
| IdleOne | to a pastebin of course | 18:43 |
| htorque_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/642090/ | 18:44 |
| htorque_ | + installed xserver-xorg-input-kbd | 18:44 |
| IdleOne | yup that is what I did also | 18:44 |
| Daekdroom | Why don't I have the default Unity lenses anymore? | 19:14 |
| Daekdroom | Oh. All it took was a Unity restart | 19:14 |
| IdleOne | I hate to say this but I need to reinstall 11.04 so I can have a working desktop. can't wait for a fix to that bug 807306 | 19:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 | 19:17 |
| jamesbond2 | I have workaround | 19:18 |
| jamesbond2 | run this in console and keyboard/mouse will work | 19:19 |
| jamesbond2 | udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change | 19:19 |
| IdleOne | hmm ok I'll give that a shot before reinstalling | 19:19 |
| IdleOne | wth now my keyboard isn't working when I boot from usb | 19:24 |
| jamesbond2 | idelOne: is it working for you? | 19:29 |
| genjix | how can i upgrade natty to oneiric? | 19:32 |
| genjix | just s/natty/oneiric/ in sources.list? | 19:32 |
| jamesbond2 | do-release-upgrade -d | 19:32 |
| jamesbond2 | but there is high bug in oneiric | 19:32 |
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| Daekdroom | The keyboard & mouse issue caught me, and now I don't have 3d accel either. Should have seen it coming. | 19:51 |
| Daekdroom | Unity-2D looks kinda cool, tho | 19:52 |
| htorque_ | Daekdroom: sudo mv /run/udev /run/udev.old - should fix both | 20:00 |
| Daekdroom | That seems dangerous. | 20:01 |
| Daekdroom | I'll try to dig the rotten package first anyway. | 20:01 |
| htorque_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/807306 | 20:01 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] | 20:01 |
| Daekdroom | I know it's that bug. | 20:02 |
| htorque_ | if mdeslaur does it, i'm convinced it's ok to do that moving :) | 20:02 |
| htorque_ | i have working keyboard, mouse and 3d accel again | 20:02 |
| Daekdroom | It was the update to udev 172-0ubuntu1 I had earlier today, apparently. | 20:03 |
| Daekdroom | Brb. | 20:04 |
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| carl0s- | anybody have a workaround for this dead keyboard/mouse business?? | 20:47 |
| ior3k | yay, I'm not alone | 20:50 |
| cwillu_at_work | carl0s-, sudo mv /run/udev /run/udev.old | 20:51 |
| cwillu_at_work | if I interpreted the above comment correctly | 20:51 |
| cwillu_at_work | that was posted as a workaround to the bug report I believe | 20:51 |
| carl0s- | cwillu_at_work: i'll give that a go. brb! thanks :) | 20:51 |
| cwillu_at_work | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/807306 | 20:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 807306 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [High,Confirmed] | 20:51 |
| ior3k | oh | 20:52 |
| ior3k | it happens itermitently for me | 20:52 |
| ior3k | yeah, doesn't seem to be the same thing | 20:53 |
| carl0s- | cwillu_at_work, it worked - thanks! | 20:53 |
| cwillu_at_work | ior3k, presumably you've filed a bug report? :p | 20:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | (because why else would you run an alpha?) | 20:54 |
| ior3k | cwillu_at_work: because I'm crazy | 20:55 |
| ior3k | but anyway, I can't reproduce the problem | 20:55 |
| cwillu_at_work | ior3k, why aren't you in #btrfs then, if you're so crazy? | 20:55 |
| ior3k | eh? | 20:55 |
| ior3k | what's that? | 20:55 |
| cwillu_at_work | the new experimental filesystem that all the crazy kids run | 20:55 |
| ior3k | well, I'm not that crazy ;) | 20:56 |
| cwillu_at_work | then file a damn bug report :p | 20:56 |
| ior3k | cwillu_at_work: but I can't reproduce the problem, the bug will be closed as incomplete | 20:56 |
| ior3k | besides my configuration is a bit weird... xmonad + xcompmgr + unity2d | 20:57 |
| cwillu_at_work | all the more reason to report | 20:57 |
| ior3k | if I can reproduce this consistently I'll file a bug | 20:57 |
| cwillu_at_work | the non-standard configs haven't gotten nearly enough love in the last two releases | 20:57 |
| ior3k | it's not that I don't want to file bugs, I have done so | 20:57 |
| cwillu_at_work | even if it's marked incomplete, it can be found by others with the same potential problem | 20:58 |
| ior3k | well, alright | 20:58 |
| Daekdroom | I'm wondering.. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-gtk3-gnome3 doesn't say whether gtk2 will be shipped in the CD or not.. | 21:45 |
| micahg | Daekdroom: it will be most likely for firefox (at least for oneiric), but most other stuff will be ported | 22:44 |
| Daekdroom | Hm. | 22:45 |
| cwillu_at_work | Daekdroom, I suggest xubuntu or kde if you're looking for a conventional desktop :p | 22:52 |
| Daekdroom | Aww. I'm so used to Unity. | 22:53 |
| Daekdroom | And the few attempts I had with kubuntu-desktop package weren't so good. Maybe the whole thing would go better if I didn't have the two environments' tools and programs cluttering the desktop, tho. | 22:54 |
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| h00k | I don't know if I have compositing actually running over here on my Sandy Bridge. | 23:10 |
| Daekdroom | h00k, can it run Unity (non 2D)? | 23:12 |
| h00k | Daekdroom: I'm not sure if I'm on Unity 2d or regular Unity :) | 23:12 |
| charlie-tca | Are the bottom two launchers light grey or dark gray? | 23:13 |
| h00k | the're gray, light gray | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | default = light gray for 2d, dark gray for 3d | 23:13 |
| * charlie-tca doesn't really know any way to find out, either | 23:14 | |
| h00k | yeah, okay, then I'm on Unity 2d. | 23:14 |
| Daekdroom | charlie-tca, really? I know plenty of differences. | 23:14 |
| Daekdroom | like the icon backgrounds in 2D are all light grey, and they're colored in 3D | 23:14 |
| Daekdroom | Dash has a frame around the icons in 2D. 3D doesn't. | 23:14 |
| * charlie-tca is learning | 23:15 | |
| h00k | Check it - transparency on gnome-terminal isn't real, either, it shows the wallpapaer instead of the window behind it: http://i.imgur.com/bfrX4.jpg | 23:15 |
| Daekdroom | Personally, I think they're so different that I can't use 2D without getting slightly annoyed. | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | I thought I was doing good just remembering the part about the bottom two launchers :( | 23:16 |
| h00k | I had the nice '3d' unity on Natty, before the upgrade. | 23:16 |
| Daekdroom | Oh, and I think Unity-2D doesn't have appmenu support, but maybe that's specific to here. | 23:16 |
| charlie-tca | I don't really use it enough, I guess | 23:16 |
| Daekdroom | I've used it once, today, when the udev issue broke my acceleration. | 23:17 |
| h00k | So, I'm not sure which part of what is broken that I don't have compositing | 23:17 |
| Daekdroom | As a matter of fact, h00k, you do have the mouse & keyboard issue, don't you? | 23:17 |
| Daekdroom | Or was it someone else.. | 23:17 |
| h00k | Daekdroom: yep. | 23:17 |
| Daekdroom | I've had it earlier today, and the same cause for it had me lose compositing and 3D accel. | 23:18 |
| h00k | bug 807306 | 23:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 807306 in base-files (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[oneiric] Keyboard & mouse not working in X" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807306 | 23:18 |
| Daekdroom | If you check the comments, they suggest 'sudo mv /run/udev /run/udev.old' as a workaround | 23:19 |
| h00k | I'm going to try comment 27 to fix it right now | 23:19 |
| === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ | ||
| h00k | much better. | 23:20 |
| h00k | Sound even works without having me to tell alsa to reload. | 23:21 |
| h00k | muuuuuch better. | 23:21 |
| rrva | anyone having problems with raise volume key on keyboard after oneiric upgrade? | 23:58 |
| rrva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/809072 | 23:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 809072 in Ubuntu "raise volume key no effect in gnome after oneiric upgrade" [Undecided,New] | 23:58 |
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