=== Unit193_ is now known as Unit193 [04:09] how am i supposed to install ubuntu from windows (i don't have a usb stick or cd) when i run wubi "the application failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect.. " [04:10] hmmm... how does windows expect the application to be configured? [04:10] is that when you get the error? from inside windows when you try to run the .exe? [04:11] BGL: i would probably delete that wubi.exe and re-download [04:14] i guess it's because i don't have service pack 2 or something [04:14] http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ - can i use this as a work around maybe? [04:14] sure... if you have a USB stick [04:15] that wont get you a wubi install though [04:15] "frugal install" [04:15] "it can make a "frugal install" on your local hard disk if you don't have a USB drive." [04:16] "if you did a "frugal install" by selecting "Hard Disk" as your install target, select the UNetbootin entry from the Windows Boot Menu as the system boots up." [04:16] ^- ? [04:16] that sounds like a pain [04:16] well, i can't get wubi to run [04:16] just get rid of winders [04:16] like everyone else.. [04:17] BGL: whats the exact error? [04:17] what makes you think its sp2 related? [04:17] if you are online with that windows box, you *should* be taking those updates [04:18] lol [04:18] "This application ahs failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem." [04:18] using vista? [04:18] it's xp [04:18] and you dont have sp2? [04:18] no [04:18] isnt xp to like sp5 [04:19] is sp5 required to install ubuntu? [04:19] no clue [04:19] what is 'ahs' ?? [04:19] no one i know uses xp still... [04:19] "This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem." [04:19] eh... lots of folks, and companies still use XP, and probably will for a long time [04:20] not that google wouldn't auto complete it for you [04:20] BGL: UNetbootin is showing that error? [04:20] no, wubi is [04:20] xp hits eol soon [04:20] ah! [04:20] Error404NotFound: hit is a few years ago though too [04:20] hit it* [04:20] Windoze windoze [04:21] i <3 windows! [04:21] lol [04:21] i was looking at unetbootin as an alternative to wubi [04:21] when it works, which is nearly never [04:22] the frugal install situation [04:22] BGL: thats not going to be trivial [04:23] as in not a problem? [04:23] well, not a problem, but not easy [04:24] BGL: you have *any* USB hard drive? [04:24] does the machine USB boot? [04:24] BGL: and also have you tried downloading a new wubi from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer ? [04:25] yeah i got wubi from ubuntu's website [04:25] there is a bug report on this erorr and it was changed to invalid [04:25] if it were me, i would delete it, and get an older one [04:25] an older one to install 11.04? [04:25] will that work? [04:26] well, if it were me, i would want 10.04 [04:26] skip wubi lol [04:26] use Universal USB Installer [04:26] zk: does that not require a usb device? [04:26] zkriesse_: BGL says no USB or CD [04:26] and go with 10.04 or 10.10 and yes it does lol [04:26] :/ [04:26] oh damn [04:26] i read an older wubi might be able to get round this i've never used wubi before [04:26] that puts quite a bite in doing it [04:27] can you chose which distro to install from within wubi? [04:27] within reason, i say yes [04:27] you couldnt use it to install fedora [04:28] well, to install 10.04 [04:28] BGL: it literally wont hurt to try [04:28] right now, you just need to get a wubi.exe or .msi to start and not crash on your system [04:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/669237 [04:28] Ubuntu bug 669237 in debian-installer "wubi.exe does not start. " [Undecided,Invalid] [04:29] BGL: i think thats because the issue is probably with your windows intall [04:29] it's because i don't have some service pack [04:30] BGL: if you know that, then why not just get the service pack? [04:30] holstein +1 [04:30] its really a *bad* idea not to update windows with security updates [04:30] i really don't feel like spending 3 hours downloading updates [04:30] BGL: imagine how much time you'll spend fixing whatever you get hacked [04:30] *potentially [04:31] lol at 3 hours [04:31] dial up user eh [04:31] and, plus the time you're wasting here on wubi, and whatever other programs you wont be able to install [04:32] how is using unetbootin complicated? it sounds simple am i missing something about it? [04:33] BGL: its simple, but the frugal install is not that simple to me [04:33] go for it though [04:33] well what's complicated about it? [04:33] you can let me know :) [04:33] lol [04:35] Error404NotFound, you're still using Ubuntu?-) [04:35] * holstein looks at the unet windows version in wine [04:35] yes [04:35] Error404NotFound, good ;) [04:36] i do still have windows 7 dual boot but i dont use it [04:36] ;)) [04:36] now that i actualy got my printer working on linux [04:37] yeah... i wouldnt know where to start with a 'frugal install' like that... wheres it go? how do you boot it? [04:38] it looks like it adds oit to the already existing boot selection menu of windows [04:39] i'll be interested to see how that works out for you BGL [04:39] * holstein is out... good luck :) [04:40] * Error404NotFound kicks holstein in the ass [05:10] getting 10.04 instead of 11.04 sounded like a better idea actually so i'm dl'n that atm [05:11] i used unity for a little bit and was just kinda meh about it [05:13] BGL: you dont have to use unity you know... [05:13] system settings login screen [05:13] change to ubuntu classic [05:20] You can also use !lubuntu , !xubuntu or even !kubuntu if you don't like Unity [05:51] well, unetbootin worked fine i was able to boot into ubuntu/live and start the install but i was quickly stopped because i cannot make a partition out of the free space on this drive, assuming because i'm booting off of it at the same time [05:52] figures i'd run into some other dumbass problem [05:52] however if i'd had the partitions setup already unetbootin would've done the trick [05:52] i'm just going to haul in a cd tomorrow from work [06:14] BGL use G parted to create new partition === gpc is now known as IdleOne [07:56] Is there any way to make the File/Edit/etc bar on an open window go into the launcher in Gnome much like it does in unity? [11:15] I made a link to Kate (editor) on my toolbar. Opened Kate & tweaked it. With R-mouse or Menu a not-configurated Kate opens ? [11:15] Suddenly I have 3 different configurations/Kate's ? How can I force the 2 other links to synchronize my tweaks/addons etc ? [11:15] I want to see everywhere the same Kate. [11:30] E3D3, i don't know what might be the problem but it might be that u need to restart the editor it self, or maybe u are sending some sort of parameters in the shortcut that u created that are not being sent by default, i don't know what other probabilities might cause this problem [11:39] I did it with Kate like I always do. But really thanks for your help. Try one reinstall & if I lose all my work I will never look to Kate again. [11:40] A reinstall will not fix anything. This is a user config issue. [11:41] Thanks geirha. I quit with working ON Kate instead of WITH. dont want to lose more. [11:42] I try to install a split-screen addon for gEdit & just remove Kate, that will save me a lot of time & more ... [11:44] If you feel adventurous, try vim-gnome or vim-gtk. It has a bit of a learning curve, but once you're past that, you won't look back. ;) [11:48] If there's anything vim can't do, it's not worth doing. That's my motto. ;) [11:48] I know but quess the only reasson to use it is because it took too much time to learn. I still prefer gEdit & happy to see I can split my screen there too (addon). Kate scared me almost to death with its strange behaviour, will burn it ritual with pleasure ;-) But your enthousiasm make me still curious about vim, maybe later. Thanks [11:49] * geirha evil laughter [11:49] vim is like blender (graphic editor) for me, learning curve doesn't feel intiutive. [11:50] Yes, good analogy. I was completly lost first time I tried Blender too. [11:51] I experimented for years & always had to go back to the beginning tuts, so I left it. [11:51] Its usefull if you use it a lot, guess its the same with vim, guess you almost never touch your mouse ? [11:56] E3D3, i never used kate, but what's in it that's better than gedit? [11:57] Solved, Kate is to the eternal hunting grounds & a better tweaked gEdit is first lady again. I can sleep peacefully. [11:57] Kate had split screen default & more nice default things for programming. [11:57] Code folding [11:59] But yesterday it eat 100% CPU, when closing 2nd window -the doc also close, & troubles with its commands. gEdit never scared me. [12:00] I use splitscreen everywhere, have now an old plugin for gEdit that does it. Im happy & can continue work with a free heart. [12:00] gEdit has more addons, like direct FTP-connect, funny to live edit my webpages. [12:10] Another question : [12:10] What is the smartest way to resize my harddrive with 2 Ubuntu-OS's (each on its own partion & swap) to 3 partions without losing software ? [12:10] Backup app in main menu seems not to backup manually installed software. [12:11] Or beter learn LVM ? [12:15] i don't know really === coalwater_ is now known as coalwater [12:16] coalwater: Still thanks, I'll wait. [12:16] but about the software backing up i think it might be close to the same [12:16] !clone [12:16] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [12:17] sorry, im half asleep, that sentence was messed up [12:17] i meant 'it might be close to cloning' [12:19] Guess so, I never did it but heard CloneZilla is good. Hope there is an easier 'temporary copy to 2nd partition' solution. [12:21] Problem is that Im lost track of some manually installed software (no deb/rpm packages). Will explore above commands again, Thanks. [12:22] dpkg -l [12:22] o nvm [12:22] That missed, say Aptana, & other installed stuff. [12:23] Im bad at English abriviations ; nvm = nevermind ? [12:33] Tried : aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages [12:33] Its miss a lot of software I dont want to lose so guess I have to learn cloning. [12:35] E3D3, I'm not sure that it'll do what you want but you might have a look at "Grsync", it's a gui for the rsync command. [12:38] Sidewinder1: I see it will make (selective) backups & read so more, thanks for the thread. [12:38] * so = some [12:38] NP. [14:16] Hello. [14:17] hi fox [14:17] o/ === DefaultDude193 is now known as Unit193 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:04] how do i update a local bzr branch with a remote one that probabl has a couple of revisions added, bzr pull ? [21:05] ok nvm bzr update [21:42] hello guys [21:42] i need help with a scanner [21:42] asterismo: o/ [21:42] usb? networked? [21:43] usb [21:43] whats the deal? do you see it at all? [21:43] this is the thing [21:43] the scanner is an Artec Ultima 2000 [21:43] old usb scanner [21:44] but i made it work in a laptop [21:44] now i want to make it work in another laptop and a desktop but i cant [21:44] what did you do to make it work? [21:45] some backport? [21:45] i did make the scanne work [21:45] through sane application [21:46] i make it work by editing /etc/sane.d/gt68xx.conf file [21:46] uncomment5ed some lines and after a restart it worked [21:47] but this is not working this time [21:47] and sane is suppose to support this chip [21:47] and i really need this scanner in this other 2 computers [21:48] yeah? [21:48] i would probably prefer it on the one machine, and just share the files... [21:48] i suppose i would look at the sane versions and kernel verions [21:48] the working machine i wont have it anymore [21:49] all systems are maverick [21:49] all i386 [21:49] well, something is different [21:49] the USB controllers are [21:49] may be copying some folders and replacing ones in the other machines... any ideas? [21:50] asterismo: i would still go and actually confirm the kernel version and sane version [21:50] the scanner is detected in lsusb [21:51] same kernel and same sane version [21:51] then, its going to be the config, or the USB controller [21:52] i would probably just grab the entire /etc/sane.d dir [21:52] how do i check that? [21:52] asterismo: you would need another USB controller ideally [21:52] i replaced the entire sand.d dir in new machines and simple-scan app says no scanners detected [21:53] but sane-find command detects the scanner, product vendor... etc [21:54] i would probably reinstall sane... and go from there [21:54] scanimage -L says no scanners were identified [21:54] how do i install another usb cortroller? [21:54] does dmesg see it? [21:54] or lsusb [21:54] lsusb does apparently [21:55] that and the sane-find info does not support the USB controller theory [21:55] dmesg [21:55] usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 [21:56] lsusb [21:56] Bus 005 Device 003: ID 05d8:4002 Ultima Electronics Corp. Artec Ultima 2000 (GT6801 based)/Lifetec LT9385/ScanMagic 1200 UB Plus Scanner [22:00] asterismo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lifetec9385Config [22:05] Is wine the best window 7 program runner? If so, which of the versions available in the software center, should I use? What are the differences between them? [22:06] or running windows under virtual machine [22:07] truepurple, WINE can run windows. If you have a good computer with sufficient memory and a Windows CD of any version (XP), a virtual maching is a good option [22:07] Sorry WINE runs windows programs ok [22:07] yeah, virtual machine will be *exactly* like windows running [22:08] But games won't render well because it's virtualizing a video card [22:08] And how do I set up a virtual machine? [22:08] Well the program I want to use is small in resources and not a game [22:08] OK, WINE maybe able to run it. What do you want to run? [22:11] Windows 7 Loader By Orbit30 & Hazar v1.5 Release 2 [22:12] But how do I set up a virtual machine anyway? [22:12] !virtualbox [22:12] virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [22:16] st33med: I use virt-manager on ubuntu to run my windows VM, works very well. [22:16] cool [22:18] (it uses KVM under the hood, rather than virtualbox) [22:19] StevenR: have you used virtualbox too? [22:23] holstein: no [22:26] Virtual box requires you to have the OS you want to emulate though, right? [22:26] yes [22:26] it's basically a free "fake" computer [22:26] or multiple fake computers :) [22:27] KVM allows me to netinstall rather nicely, and boot from iso images, usb disks, etc. [22:38] Hello [22:40] I want to be a ubuntu developer, and I saw in the wiki about the Ubuntu Beginners Team. How can I enter in this team? [22:46] hi everyone! [22:46] oi [22:46] can anyone help with a partition problem? [22:46] like what [22:47] just set up my system with partitions and LVM and I can access home and the file system, but not the main part of my hard drive, the largest part [22:47] Im so noob [22:48] you setup multiple partitions? [22:48] yes installed ubuntu on encrypted lvm file system [22:48] followed a guide that worked great, but not sure how to access all of my hard drive [22:50] did you format the other partitions? [22:50] any good terminal commands that would show the partition set up? [22:50] I'm not sure what's formatted actually, I have done nothing but the pre ubuntu install set up of the partitions [22:51] hi people [22:51] hi [22:51] i cannot plug external hard drive to frontal usb port [22:52] why not [22:52] any help error? [22:53] dmesg says sd 8:0:0:0: [sde] Unhandled error code [22:53] i can pastebin large dmesg [22:53] are the front usb 2.0? [22:53] its like usb is being reset continuously [22:54] it never mounts [22:54] but if i plug in rear usb ports, it mounts ok [22:54] new2ubuntuguy: if i had that problem id use ubunto live cd to format the other partitions [22:54] is there a terminal command that will show info on current partitions? [22:56] new2ubuntuguy: sudo fdisk -l # lists disks, their partitions and sizes [22:56] ok thanks [22:57] To further identify, mount a partition, run ls, then unmount. e.g. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls -l /mnt && sudo umount /mnt [22:59] if I pasted my output from fdisk, would you be able to tell what's formatted ? [22:59] it's all greek to me [23:00] oi [23:00] !paste | new2ubuntuguy [23:00] new2ubuntuguy: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [23:01] new2ubuntuguy: Possibly [23:01] can I paste into a private message geirha so I don't flood? [23:01] Preferably use a pastebin [23:02] ok I'll try [23:02] sudo apt-get install pastebinit [23:03] sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit [23:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/642234/ [23:04] Hm. /dev/dm*, never seen those before. [23:04] :/ [23:05] You have two partitions on /dev/sda though. One small one, probably a /boot partition. And a ~300GB one that you probably installed ubuntu on [23:06] http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/10/how-to-install-ubuntu-11-04-on-an-encrypted-lvm-file-system/ [23:06] that's the guide I used [23:06] just not sure if I need to format now or what [23:07] Ah, so that's what /dev/dm is [23:07] does everybody can plug an external hard drive in frontal usb ports?? [23:08] any ideas geirha? [23:09] depends on the motherboard, asterismo [23:09] Not all USB ports are created equal [23:10] what is that mean? [23:10] It means some are usb 1.0, some are usb 2.0, some have less power to them, and some are not even connected properly [23:10] usb is usb, how can i figure out i can or not plug other stuff in frontal usb? [23:10] new2ubuntuguy: I've never tried anything like that myself, but the guide seems to be complete [23:11] The only way I know of is to try things in them [23:11] maybe I still need to format? [23:11] I have computers with 8 ports, 2 of which will work for the USB drives [23:11] new2ubuntuguy: Ah, you possibly only formatted some partitions [23:12] asterismo: further, all will work with a usb keyboard [23:12] new2ubuntuguy: But I'm afraid I know nothing about lvm and dm-crypt, so I wouldn't know how to go about formatting them. [23:12] I can acess home and the file system, but when I click on my 300 GB HD below that, it says "Unable to mount" [23:13] if i use a PCI card for USB extension, it will affect IRQs or something the other USB ports? [23:13] ok thanks anyway geirha [23:14] Someone else here may have experience with it, or you could try #ubuntu and/or #linux [23:15] ok thanks [23:16] in the pastebin, "doesn't contain a valid partition table" .... does that mean anything in particular? [23:20] If it said so on a regular disk, it would mean the master boot record on it was wiped. On those dm-devices though, it probably just can't read them because they're encrypted. Just guessing. [23:24] ok [23:25] I just opened Gparted partition program, and I have /dev/sda2 with a file system of crypt-luks [23:25] status is not mounted [23:36] StevenR: ping? [23:36] holstein: lo [23:37] StevenR: you add yourself to te lib-virt group with virt-manager? [23:37] libvirt* [23:39] holstein: apparently I am in the libvirtd group. [23:40] hmmmm... im already a member of that group too [23:41] holstein: what's the problem? [23:41] permissions error. im sure i just need to rtfm [23:53] StevenR: you dont run it as root right [23:53] ? [23:56] nope [23:59] StevenR: i logged out and back in :)