/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/11/#ubuntu-locoteams.txt

* mhall119 kicks paultag 03:26
paultagmhall119: oh ffs03:28
paultagmhall119: you're punging me03:28
mhall119punging?03:29
paultagmhall119: past tense of ping. to pung, punging is the plural03:29
mhall119that's a new one on me, is that good or bad to do?03:29
paultagmhall119: meh :)03:29
mhall119I thought it was ponged03:30
mhall119or pinged03:30
paultagmhall119: I want to stab my old self for writing such crap (syn as it is now)03:30
paultagmhall119: I prefer pung :)03:30
mhall119paultag: it's funny, every year your code quality gets exponentially better, but your previous year's code always looks like crap03:30
mhall119and it's best not to look back more than 2 years03:31
* mhall119 shudders03:31
paultagmhall119: this code was written without internet (when my net was out) a few months ago, when I was rushing to have it 1.003:31
paultagmhall119: and when I write good code, it's good. Code I wrote 5 years ago carefully still looks good to me03:31
paultagit's my hacks that piss me off03:31
mhall119oh man, you're lucky03:31
paultagmhall119: I'm in this 7 years now, coding almost daily03:31
mhall119then again, my code from 3 years ago was PHP, and my code from 5 years ago was Perl....03:31
paultagmy PHP is damn fine thank you03:32
mhall119I'll blame the medium03:32
mhall119my PHP wasn't, you must have had a better version than me03:32
paultaghehehe03:32
mhall119oh, bedtime, g'night03:32
paultagmhall119: I also wrote my own MVC framework that really made it fairly nice03:32
paultagmhall119: night, mang03:32
mhall119I think everybody wrote their own MVC in PHP03:33
mhall119it's practially required03:33
mhall119like writing an MVC in Java03:33
paultagbut java has built-in MVC support for most web bindings03:33
mhall119you mean servlets?03:33
mhall119they're pretty bare03:34
paultagmhall119: no, not servlets03:34
paultagthat's not a web binding03:34
mhall119and nobody likes wiring it up in XML03:34
paultagstuff like JSP / JSF03:34
mhall119oh, ok03:34
mhall119I never did JSF03:34
paultagit sucks03:34
mhall119that's why I never did it ;)03:34
mhall119Click looked like the nicest framework for Java, but I never used it either03:34
paultagyar03:35
paultagI always wanted to edit Swing to render to a web-page03:35
paultagbut got lazy, as usual03:35
paultagand more productive things came up :)03:35
mhall119there was a lib that would do that...03:35
mhall119ok, bed for me, kiddos have summer camp early in the morning03:36
paultagnight night03:36
mhall119night03:37
dholbachgood morning06:48
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dpmmorning everyone, is there anyone from the Polish team around?10:12
czajkowskidpm: they rarely idol in here 10:13
czajkowskidpm: aloha :)10:13
Quintasandpm: \o10:13
Quintasandpm: <--- Polish Team member10:13
Quintasandpm: I'm going shopping, I'll be back in like 30 minutes10:15
dpmQuintasan, ok, thanks, there's no rush. Let me know when you've got a minute to chat10:16
Quintasandpm: I'm back10:50
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 1 to kick off in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom15:50
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coalwatercan someone help me get the loco dir work on my local apache?, and it would be better if it could work without installing the db19:36
coalwaterno volunteers ? :D19:39
cjohnstoncoalwater: try #ubuntu-website19:42
coalwaterhm so the loco dir project it self is not maintained here ?19:43
mhall119coalwater: not anymore, we moved discussion to #ubuntu-website19:47
czajkowskimhall119: why was that btw?20:30
czajkowskiit's not really intuitative to go there to disucsc the LD tbh and most come here 20:30
mhall119czajkowski: because we ended up discussing summit and HoF development in here too20:38
mhall119so we decided, since there was already #ubuntu-website, to just move all our web dev talk there20:38
czajkowskihmm 20:38
czajkowskinot my call 20:38
czajkowski:)20:38
mhall119it's still proper to talk about the loco directory in here20:39
mhall119especially as it applies to use and data20:39
mhall119but when we start talking about how to use bzr and setup a virtualenv, that's kind of out of place20:39
czajkowskinotreally might get more invovled when people see it being done by community folks, but thats just me20:41
czajkowski*shrugs*20:41
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