[01:33] - [01:33] oops [06:58] morning [06:59] morning all [07:10] good morning [07:10] Morning [07:15] hay AlanBell i see you've made it onto a collector card :) same for you czajkowski [07:15] :) [07:42] Morning [07:42] * popey wonders where his collector card is [07:45] popey, random order....i'm sure yours will come soon :) [07:46] if I was a little less tired, and a little more evil, I'd suggest we "community source" one for him ;) [07:47] :D [07:47] captain popey [07:48] Yes, Admiral Buzz? [07:48] also, hello exobuzz [07:48] nothing. just greeting you. good morning [07:48] someone just gimp one up for him :D lol [07:48] hi [07:50] popey, hah cool cat video. :) [07:57] Is there any way to make the File/Edit/etc bar on an open window go into the launcher in Gnome much like it does in unity? [07:57] MooDoo: no need, I have been talking to randal about them [07:57] :) [08:08] MooDoo: yeah, cut out and keep [08:08] top trumps [08:08] lol awesome....... [08:09] ubuntu-uk top trumps edition [08:13] Good morning all! [08:14] morning [08:14] Good morning! [08:52] Morning al [08:52] all* === denny- is now known as denny [08:57] Hey lads. [08:59] jimmie, don't forget the lassses :) [09:00] Im not. But this is the internet. [09:01] jimmie, i'm just teasing :) [09:02] Heh. [09:03] Dont suppose you know how to make the top panel swallow the top bar of any open browser or window do you? [09:05] jimmie: sounds like you are after the "global menu" [09:06] which version of ubuntu are you using? [09:08] 11.04 pal [09:11] jimmie: which session are you loggin into? gnome classic or unity 3d/2d? (unity has it by default) [09:11] [Gary Kearley] Tetris - http://kearley.net/tetris/ [09:11] Gnome classic. [09:12] Yeah im trying to achieve the same thing unity has. [09:12] jimmie: try this then: http://www.bbgamer.co.uk/archives/109 === e is now known as Guest34784 [09:28] good morning everyone, [09:28] o/ [09:28] o/ [09:29] 'lo [09:29] popey: ? [09:30] morning \o/ [09:30] morning HazRPG :) [09:30] * HazRPG *glugs more coffee* [09:30] brobostigon: morning :) [09:30] HazRPG: long time no see. [09:31] indeed! [09:31] huh. i took two 500 gb barracuda drives out of my machine to test something, but now i have no idea the order in which they go back :( [09:31] Trying to get my head around some projects I was working on. [09:31] wintellect: ? [09:31] Been* [09:31] HazRPG: ah, :) [09:31] brobostigon: :) [09:32] HazRPG: good plan, coffee, :) [09:32] Man, who'd thought trying to manage contact list on gmail could be so tough o.O [09:32] brobostigon: recently got a coffee machine ;D [09:32] brobostigon: away hot coffee = win \o/ [09:32] speaking of which, I'm out... *runs to kitchen* [09:33] gord: surely it doesn't matter what order you put them in? [09:33] gord: UUID FTW [09:35] popey, doesn't grub still work on the old non uuid method? i haven't looked in to how grub 2 works [09:35] don't look. it's safer that way. [09:37] popey: and how is my new bestest-friend in the whole wide world? [09:37] HazRPG: nice, :) [09:37] hi brobostigon [09:37] hi wintellect [09:37] wintellect, creep :) [09:37] woo hurray for Google+ btw ;D [09:38] HazRPG: :) do you have an account? [09:38] brobostigon: yeah, lovin' the coffee machine ;D [09:38] brobostigon: yup :) [09:38] HazRPG: let me add you. [09:38] MooDoo: lol. I promised popey he would be my "bestest" friend if he game me a a google+ invite. Guess what happened? [09:38] :) [09:39] gave* === midoubleko_ is now known as midoubleko === PaulGit_ is now known as PaulGit [09:41] HazRPG: nice penguin, :) [09:41] ooo netsplit :) [09:43] hah wintellect [09:44] just noticed the netsplit [09:45] brobostigon: thanks :) === webpigeon_web is now known as Guest2683 [09:47] HazRPG: :) === mar_33 is now known as kk_Oo === kk_Oo is now known as kk_oO === kk_oO is now known as kk_Oo [09:58] morning all [09:59] hey czajkowski prod how did you get past all the security block to get back into England? ;) Welcome Back [09:59] MooDoo: you back on now or are you still in holiday mode? [09:59] morning davmor2 [10:00] davmor2, i'm back at work :( [10:00] MooDoo: did you have a nice break though? [10:00] davmor2, loved it, how was your week in bakewell [10:00] ? [10:01] MooDoo: Smashing, Hot, busy but really nice, Monday back was the wounder when I saw my inbox :( [10:02] davmor2, yup, just finally cleared mine....and no interview with canonical :( [10:02] :( [10:03] MooDoo: Trust me it took all week to clear mine, 26xx odd [10:03] davmor2, ah mines no where near that bad :) [10:04] davmor2: it was an entertaining day to fly back I'll give you that [10:05] davmor2, you picked a good week well all the entertainment that was on..... [10:05] * MooDoo hugs czajkowski as he's missed her.......:) [10:06] * Gary tickles czajkowski as he's missed her....... :-) [10:06] * czajkowski peers at ye lot [10:06] MooDoo: had to avoid the village nearest to us and bakewell on the saturday so we could go else where not fun :D [10:06] Gary: ! [10:06] clearly I've been away too long ye know that's a no no [10:06] hey Davieywavie [10:07] davmor2, well glad you had a good time :) [10:07] MooDoo: we'll be going again the site was smashing [10:08] and ther plenty to do in the area oh and proper food [10:08] davmor2, yep it's a fab place to go, we go quite a lot [10:08] bbc manchester are looking for a linux SA..mainly debian/ubuntu [10:09] https://careers.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?newms=jj&id=37020 [10:09] davmor2: ended up smashing my hand into a glass mirror as i was about to leave the house for the flight on sat morning [10:09] drove to airport with hand out the window trying to get it to stop bleeind [10:09] bleeding [10:09] MooDoo: not like the wussy Southerners with there 4 slabs of potato that they tell you are hand carved ships :D [10:11] czajkowski: Spanner, Muppet, Fraggle, Dilbert, D'oh!!!!!! And other exclamations of stupidity, There's enough things in life that try to kill you without you joining in ;) [10:12] davmor2: lost my balance not so sturdy 1st thing in the morning [10:12] put my hand out to stop myself falling over [10:12] mirror may not have been my smartest move i admit [10:15] czajkowski: come on tell the truth you were still drunk from the night before right ;) [10:17] anyone running oneiric on anything and natty on something else? [10:19] davmor2: i suspect a few people are. [10:20] 10:15 < Guest34784!~epl25@alde.cl.cam.ac.uk [] [10:20] grr [10:20] oimon: I see that BBC job is based at the new Media City centre [10:20] /j #ubuntu-beginners [10:20] hNNGH [10:21] DJones: probably a lot of staff don't want to move from london either [10:21] DJones, grrr? [10:21] oimon: I would think so, [10:21] MooDoo: Mis-paste just before [10:21] ah [10:21] Daviey: Evo on natty doesn't see anything in my Inbox after TB in oneiric connected to it, bu only the inbox. Both on imap it odd [10:23] Daviey: Just got it back must of been an evo thing :( just odd [10:24] davmor2: thunderbird is currently rather poorly for me on Oneiric [10:24] davmor2: constantly crashing. [10:24] GLib-ERROR **: Cannot create pipe main loop wake-up: Too many open files [10:25] Daviey: It kills my test box 186% Cpu usage and sends the system fans into overdrive [10:26] Daviey: I'm assuming however that, that is only cause it is importing 10's of thousands of emails, never had it on evo though :( [10:27] Daviey: Other issue I have is the ever shrinking, un-re-sizeable filters window [10:28] * Daviey screams [10:28] Daviey: I now only see the O of okay on the buttons at the bottom makes it hard to do things like choose a folder [10:35] AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [10:37] Daviey: I'm going to take some screenshots and report them the issue is cause it is killing my cpu nothing else seems to start up properly :) [10:39] i'm currently using mutt. [10:39] Daviey: feeling masochistic today? :) [10:39] Daviey: hahahaha possibly a safer bet :D [10:42] MartijnVdS: uh? [10:42] Daviey: Using mutt hurts my brain [10:42] Daviey: I assumed it hurts yours as well [10:43] i didn't realise that the 5 play limit for a song on spotify was a permanent thing :( i thought it got reset each month [10:43] oimon: it used to [10:43] oimon: maybe it resets every time you you pay? [10:44] MartijnVdS: i'm back up to 10hrs play left but tracks i played 5 times about a month ago are still greyed out [10:45] complain to the record labels, I guess [10:45] or use youtube :) [10:46] it's an album i want to buy but i need to find a machine with itunes on it cos i have itunes vouchers to buy it with..taken me 6 motnhs to get round to it [10:46] or buy a dab radio and tune it into Absolute 80's and forget all about music collections :D [10:46] davmor2 is stuck in the 1980's [10:46] 80s deserves to die in a fire :D [10:46] except the good bits (i.e. smiths, pixies) [10:46] popey: only musically [10:47] MartijnVdS: mutt hurts less than thunderbird on oneiric at the moment :) [10:48] Daviey: oneiric doesn't like me at all atm.. unity is one crashy pile of poo [10:48] popey: there is a nice mix of music, disco, house, rap, rock, pop, cheesey dance hall fillers and ballards that everyone knows :D [11:27] did this channel dies as everyone raced out to buy a dab radio? [11:29] davmor2, has analog been tunred off [11:29] ? [11:30] MooDoo: no but Absolute 80's is national on dab, and internet and not on fm [11:31] davmor2, stand and deliver...woooahwoah...... [11:33] MooDoo: George Michael Currently not so hot but still an annoyingly catchy tune, and now I don't want to dance [11:54] Hi all [11:55] hi AlanBell [11:55] o/ [11:59] morning AlanBell === j0nr_ is now known as j0nr [12:03] Alfresco server upgraded, afternoon in Starbucks [12:03] that was quick! [12:04] it was, went pretty smooth [12:04] did you get my mail re the projector? [12:07] hello folks! Long time no... write.. [12:12] Hi j0nr [12:58] might pop along to the London hackspace in a bit === ujjain_ is now known as ujjain [13:03] hi [13:04] how are you? [13:09] Hi for all [13:11] vflinux: hello [13:12] davmor2: Hello [13:12] I'm looking for a job like linux support or admin. [13:12] if somebody can help me [13:12] I thank's in advance. [13:13] vflinux, Experience is what it's all about [13:13] Lot's of jobs on uk job sites for linux sys admins [13:13] I have 10 yeard of experience [13:13] vflinux: You asked this last week. [13:13] jpds: Yes was me [13:13] vflinux: you can join the linuxjobs mailing list popey can you provide the link I can't think of it off hand [13:14] jpds: I'm trying again [13:14] davmor2: I'm on the list linuxjobs [13:15] vflinux: failing that try cwjobs they are pretty good at their Job listings break down including linux jobs iirs [13:15] https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs [13:15] davmor2: But no success yet [13:15] diplo: thanks [13:16] lo [13:16] daubers: hello [13:20] It's a code refactoring day today [13:20] and already I've found one dumb if statement [13:21] diplo: I'm subscribed. Thank's [13:21] if (x==y){ x=y; } [13:21] * BigRedS wonders how whatever that line used to be ended up like that [13:22] BigRedS: it may have been a no coffee left in the cupboard day [13:24] daubers, which language? [13:25] directhex: originally it was python, but I transposed so it would fit in one line :) [13:26] Ah, I was just wondering if it was type related [13:26] though I've never used anything where that's of much concern :) [13:28] yeah, wondered if it was an attempt at overcoming an object issue [13:28] e.g. the == operator compares the object's contents, but the = does a full-on object replacement [14:02] Avé [14:04] Can someone tell me how I can open two instances of Nautilus. I'm using 11.04 with unity bar [14:04] file new window I think [14:04] when I have Nautilus already open I can not simply click on Nautilus icon to open another instance of said app, which I want to in order to easily transfer files from one folder to another [14:04] livingdaylight: middle click the icon in the launcher [14:05] davmor2, middleclick! awesome [14:05] livingdaylight: np's [14:06] davmor2, hey, just discovered F3 ! [14:06] splits Nautilus in two screens [14:07] livingdaylight: yeap that too but that wasn't what you asked at the time :D [14:09] davmor2, true, although would have led to what I was seeking to do; copy'npaste files from one to another [14:16] Hello. [14:18] hello s-fox , how the devil are you? [14:18] * MooDoo passes s-fox a glass of the red stuff..... [14:18] Hello MooDoo :-) I'm good thanks, been busy! [14:19] I got myself on the ubuntu forum council :) [14:19] How are you doing? [14:19] s-fox, well done, i'm fine :) [14:19] Thanks for the ribena [14:19] s-fox, wasn't what i was thinking lol [14:19] I have not touched a drop since June 3rd [14:20] s-fox, i had a pint yesterday, i'm not a big drinker [14:21] MooDoo: You just passed s-fox a glass of red diesel what you trying to do kill s-fox [14:21] davmor2, oi shush you [14:21] * s-fox sniffs the red stuff [14:21] ;) [14:21] davmor2, my god i sound like czajkowski [14:22] Grrrrr [14:22] * davmor2 slaps MooDoo silly one czajkowski is bad enough [14:22] davmor2, thanks, i needed that :) [14:22] Travelled all the way to London today for a meeting only to find out it was last week despite all my emails saying it was today [14:23] How you guys doing? [14:23] Heh [14:23] PalaPad: That's not good [14:23] Im good pal, you? [14:24] Even had to get a parent of another kid at my sons school to take him to school today so I could travel to this damn meeting lol [14:24] PalaPad, yeah just read that on twitter.....that sucks [14:24] PalaPad, hope you give someone a rollocking [14:24] Am good though, missus is really sick but I am ok [14:24] PalaPad, just a cold i hope [14:24] We are about 10 weeks pregnant :) [14:25] She has morning afternoon and night sickness lol [14:25] Crikey. [14:25] PalaPad, awesome, 7 weeks to go for us..... [14:25] Oh grata moo how is mom to be doing? [14:26] PalaPad, tired, and serious back ache, 1st was 9lb born, thinking this one might be bigger....:S [14:26] Our first was 10lb 15oz so hoping this one is smaller lol [14:27] PalaPad, wow :S your poor wife....i'm tall, my son is 2.5 but needs 4/5 year old clothes :S [14:27] oof thats a big baby [14:27] Been hard so far though she is permasick [14:27] PalaPad, it's all worth it in the end, just tell her that, but remember to say it from 10foot away! :) [14:27] So I am having to work, look after the house, her and my son, it is a big problem ATM Sumer is my busiest time [14:28] not looking forward to having another baby [14:28] Already cancelled 3 conferences and 2 meetings in last month [14:28] Yeah my son is 5 and 4'6" lol [14:29] agh that sucks. need to use windows to update my bios - is there a windows livecd? [14:30] We just got his 1st year school photo last week he is head and shoulders above every kid in his year [14:30] And 2x broader [14:30] Lil bruiser he is [14:30] Palapad, tell me about it, i'm 6'6 and they expect him to be bigger than me....i hope not..... [14:31] On train so if I go quiet means I lost signal [14:31] moo, yeah Logan is 99.7th percentile for height [14:32] Litera [14:32] Literally off the charts [14:32] PalaPad, sounds like we're the same......:) [14:32] Charts only go to 97th percentile [14:32] PalaPad, yup 99th percentile here too....... [14:33] He is a great kid though [14:33] His 1st school report is amazing [14:33] i was on 99th %ile for weight..massive fatty [14:33] "put me down son while i'm telling you off" [14:33] now i'm underweight :S [14:33] i'm clinically obese :D [14:33] MooDoo: So's the olympic rower (Was James Cracknell?) [14:34] oimon: can you not use dos? if you can you can use free dos from any of the live cd's that have it on [14:34] DJones, oh i know it's rubbsh, i'm not that fit but if you saw me, you'd see i'm not clinically obese, i can get away with it coz of my height [14:34] davmor2: hmm i it's a dell windows only update, rather than a floppy update [14:35] found some dodgy instructions using wine, gonna try it [14:35] Back [14:35] Is it an old mobo? [14:36] PalaPad: around 4or 5 yrs old [14:36] i need the bios for a processor upgrade [14:38] oimon: the best of it is you'll probably find out it is the old floppy upgrade patched to run from windows rather than dos :D [14:38] no such floopy upgrade :( [15:12] does anyone happen to have a spare eeepc 900 keyboard lieing around ? [15:17] brobostigon: Um no [15:17] davmor2: ok, thank you. [15:20] anyone ever used buffalo linkstation as home NAS? [15:20] they are quite old school [15:24] I think there's one at my dad's [15:24] which perhaps highlights my unfamiliarity with it, so I might be no use whatsoever :) [15:24] :P [15:25] found an old one in a drawer, might beat my current unwieldy solution of nslu2+usb drive [15:26] nice, oimon [15:26] fwiw, it's been great. I think it was turned on about four years ago and it's just sat there serving files ever since [15:26] ah, i will be putting the debian on it :) [15:26] as soon as i discover which model i have [15:28] I need to turn one of my old NSLU2's into a print server at some point [15:28] Just need a big USB stick to hold debian on [15:31] I feel so old looking at LRLUK2008 pictures [15:42] worst thing about using something like a NSLU2 to store files on.... it restricts you from "playing" with it ;) [15:44] lol..any suggestion? [15:45] viglen [15:46] hamitron: I was trying to make that fit the latest Need For Speed title " Need for Speed London to Utah 2" didn't sound at all right :D [15:47] Networking Slow Linux Unit? [15:47] ;/ [15:47] I dunno the real name === maco2 is now known as maco [15:48] None Serious Linux Unit [15:48] that would be mine :D [15:49] just I don't want to buy one for a firm use.... and need use to jsutify buying [15:49] so no way i can follow both them :/ [15:49] they must be cheap now [15:49] i can't believe i'm installing windows on a PC just to update the bios [15:49] :( [15:50] :-o [15:50] no DOS option? [15:50] nope, nothing [15:50] sux [15:50] or option to flash from directly in the BIOS [15:50] :/ [15:55] adblock plus gets removed between firefox upgrade from 4 to 5..accident? hmmm [15:57] oimon: nope it the FF4 one isn't working in FF5 you have to install the FF 5 version bit sucky I know [15:58] :( [15:58] i forgot the internet really looks like that [16:11] [Jono Bacon] QA Community Coordinator Required - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/11/qa-community-coordinator-required/ [16:18] http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/11/google-runs-out-of-disk-space-floods-inboxes-with-notification/ [16:27] Lol oimon [16:49] oimon: you need to take that feeling and record it for posterity for when you get back to a sane desktop environment :D [17:12] * czajkowski kicks davmor2 oi don't even dream of starting! [17:38] popey: did you get 3d titles going on openshot? [17:38] czajkowski: Prod what Prod [18:17] there was talk of on-site (or near-site) camping for ogg camp; anyone know if it's been arranged at all? [18:19] yes [18:19] ping me later [18:20] yay, a camping buddy [18:22] Oh, awesome [18:33] AlanBell: yes, I did, but didn't like them === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [19:03] popey, thanks a lot for email help yesterday - can't believe you took time out to sort the resolution so quickly - hero! === Guest2683 is now known as webpigeon [19:21] suprengr: np [19:33] ;] [20:30] I went to the London Hack space today [20:30] gave them a bunch of CDs [20:36] * popey hands gord a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4 [20:39] popey: they used that app on a radio show last friday [20:40] popey: lots of hilarity ensued (they recorded a piece of the evening news from TV and songified it) [20:40] heh [20:40] http://soundcloud.com/rfi-1-1/de-tweede-kamer [20:42] Any ideas for a gmail checker that works with priority inbox. [20:42] timh_1: Chromium, Firefox [20:42] I mean a checker like - gmail checker that pops up in the notification area [20:43] There are lots but cant find one that only checks priority inbox [20:43] I don't get enough mail to properly use PI, sorry [20:45] * BigRedS wonders if it's later enough to prod AlanBell about camping :) [20:47] yes, come and camp in my garden [20:48] enjoy the soothing clucking sounds of the countryside [20:48] Oh, cool :) [20:48] awesome, cheers! [20:49] BBQ available [20:49] and house facilities [20:49] I'll have been camping for a week and a bit beforehand - those'll feel weird :) [20:50] well you can dig a hole and bury it if you prefer === tom_ is now known as Base2121 [20:50] haha! [20:50] actually, no you can't [20:51] I was beginning to wonder, but wasn't sure how you'd take me asking... [20:51] ooh woking, change train time o/ [20:58] yay, my cunning train plan worked [20:58] aha, handy [20:59] I don;t think I've ever succesfully navigated the rail network by myself [20:59] something always goes wrong... [21:00] * StevenR always finds buses difficult [21:00] trains, I find easy. [21:00] I missed the train I wanted, but caught a fast one to woking which overtook the slow one, so now I am on a train I missed :) [21:00] (took the train to school for 7 years) [21:00] AlanBell: woot [21:01] Aha, cunning [21:01] Oh, busses. I've not attempted those in a long time [22:11] [Matthew East] Canonical Copyright Assignment - http://www.mdke.org/?p=111 === webpigeon_laptop is now known as Guest61377