[05:50] <jyo> Oh sweet, my first (unintentional) post to the mailing list. Could've gone worse.
[06:13] <pleia2> yeah, that wasn't so bad :) and you're in good company
[06:13] <pleia2> <insert debate about automatic reply to list vs reply to poster here>
[17:02] <pleia2> btw, Ubuntu Developer Week is happening in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat right now, currently "Getting Started with Ubuntu Development"
[17:04] <pleia2> intro session just wrapped up, logs are here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/11/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t16:00
[19:42] <jyo> ping hembus.com
[19:42] <jyo> bleh
[19:43] <pleia2> hehe, just yesterday jdeslip was complaining at berkeleylug that he gets irssi windows mixed up with terminals ;)
[19:43] <akk> They are terminals, right?
[19:43] <pleia2> sorry, shell prompts
[19:43] <akk> But even with xchat, I type commands sometimes because I think focus is in a different window.
[22:11] <nhaines> Yay, I'm giving a presentation for Ubuntu Community Week!  \o/
[22:12]  * pleia2 collects nhaines card
[22:12]  * nhaines isn't sure he'd even seen the flag of the City of Los Angeles before.
[22:13] <pleia2> haha
[22:14] <nhaines> I also would rather the photo wasn't cropped, but eh... details.  :)
[22:14] <nhaines> The card idea is a pretty neat one.  A really good way to drum up interest!
[22:15] <pleia2> yeah, my bio was cropped to drop the fact that I'm a sysadmin (way for me to get pigeonholed as "just another chick who does commuinty stuff")
[22:15] <pleia2> again
[22:16] <nhaines> He ran the abridged bio by me first... maybe that's why.
[22:16] <nhaines> pleia2: besides, everyone knows girls can't run servers.  ;)
[22:16] <pleia2> I probably should have told him the sysadmin thing was important to me
[22:16] <nhaines> Actually, every single female tech I've ever met has been really sharp.  I wish I could say the same for the male techs.
[22:17] <pleia2> honestly it's hard to cut it if we're not (we get lots of http://xkcd.com/385/)
[22:18] <nhaines> I always assumed that was it.  I don't actually expect gender to make a difference in skill.
[22:19] <nhaines> The new level 2 technician we hired seems to be doing well.  What she lacked in domain-specific knowledge she made up for in sounding confident.  Which of course kept the customers at bay until she gained the domain-specific knowledge.  :)
[22:20] <pleia2> confidence is a still I seriously need to improve upon, I am far too honest (which endears some of our clients to me, but causes others to walk all over me)
[22:20] <pleia2> and makes me completely useless in job interviews
[22:21] <nhaines> pleia2: As I always say regarding public speakers (and new techies), you only have to sound confident.  Actual confidence is optional.  :)
[22:22] <pleia2> I've certainly gotten much better where public speaking confidence is concerned, so there is hope :)
[22:22] <nhaines> pleia2: don't worry, you still have 12 more days to continue improving until the keynote.  :D
[22:23] <pleia2> oh where has july gone?
[22:25] <nhaines> Yeah, it passed pretty quickly.