| greg-g | rick_h_: awesome! | 01:56 |
|---|---|---|
| greg-g | rick_h_: and yeah, just because they offered and sent a follow-up email saying "why haven't you requested yours yet, it hurts our feelings" | 01:57 |
| rick_h_ | ah, cool | 01:57 |
| === widox_ is now known as widox | ||
| snap-l | Good morning, gentle-folk | 12:04 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:05 |
| brousch | i worked 2.5 days out of the last 10. vacation is over :( | 12:06 |
| rick_h_ | ugh | 12:06 |
| snap-l | Welcome back? :) | 12:07 |
| brousch | you are too chipper today | 12:11 |
| snap-l | Not really | 12:11 |
| rick_h_ | going to be a hot one :( | 12:11 |
| snap-l | But compared with yesterday, today should be better. | 12:11 |
| brousch | who cares, i'm inside an air conditioned building | 12:12 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: I found your new keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Solar-Keyboard-K750/dp/B004MF11MU | 12:12 |
| snap-l | and it's on sale today only, too. | 12:12 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I saw this thing | 12:13 |
| rick_h_ | but I don't get it | 12:13 |
| rick_h_ | going to have crappy keys | 12:13 |
| snap-l | Dude, it's SOLAR. | 12:13 |
| rick_h_ | and I hate wireless input | 12:13 |
| snap-l | Totally Green, hippie tech | 12:13 |
| snap-l | Gives you a place to put your peicils | 12:13 |
| snap-l | Tactile feedback. Pshaw. | 12:14 |
| snap-l | Of course if you live in a cave like most developers, your keyboard will die about 15 minutes after unboxing. ;) | 12:15 |
| snap-l | unless it can charge from the glow of your monitor. | 12:15 |
| nullspace | oh yeah unity hates to run on my system | 12:15 |
| rick_h_ | that's ok, it hates everyone | 12:16 |
| snap-l | I kinda like it | 12:16 |
| nullspace | well at least it's an equal oppertunity hater | 12:16 |
| snap-l | though the dock on the side needs a "please go away, you're obscuring the side of libreoffice" button | 12:17 |
| nullspace | I wouldn't know it just hoses X for me because I have a 7300 GPU | 12:17 |
| snap-l | You need a new computer. ;) | 12:18 |
| snap-l | Just use that as a DNS server. | 12:18 |
| nullspace | that sounds like some marketing plan by another company I know, didn't balmer say that same thing | 12:19 |
| snap-l | No, he said "rabble rabble blargh BAZINGA" | 12:19 |
| snap-l | Which roughly translates to "please help me keep my job" | 12:19 |
| nullspace | and give me more booze | 12:20 |
| snap-l | You haven't studied Ballmer-ese | 12:20 |
| snap-l | Give me more booze is "developers developers developers" | 12:20 |
| snap-l | adding the fourth "developers" means "please give me more booze for I am sweaty" | 12:21 |
| snap-l | Never thought I'd say this, but I miss Bill Gates as the head of Microsoft | 12:22 |
| snap-l | at least he gave the company some testicles to kick | 12:22 |
| brousch | i just looked outside and it's darker than when i woke up this morning | 12:27 |
| brousch | way darker | 12:27 |
| snap-l | brousch: You're supposed to get storms today. | 12:51 |
| brousch | we are | 12:52 |
| snap-l | And so are we. :) | 12:52 |
| snap-l | Should be nice and comfy with 92F storms. ;) | 12:52 |
| Wolfger | but they bring cooler weather with them | 13:17 |
| Wolfger | or behind them | 13:17 |
| snap-l | Yes, yes they doo | 13:18 |
| snap-l | which is why I'm not complaining too hard. | 13:18 |
| snap-l | http://outloud.fm/moshpit | 14:17 |
| rick_h_ | yummy, monitor reorg time | 15:20 |
| snap-l | yay! | 15:20 |
| snap-l | I <3 conference calls | 15:21 |
| snap-l | So completely silly right now | 15:22 |
| rick_h_ | fun fun fun | 15:23 |
| rick_h_ | https://twitter.com/#!/tkadlec/status/90411122817118208 | 15:26 |
| rick_h_ | wow | 15:26 |
| snap-l | That's pretty cool | 15:26 |
| snap-l | And sad, because IIRC that was the LISP course, correct? | 15:26 |
| greg-g | :( I miss Lisp | 15:30 |
| greg-g | probably just in a "oh, the good ole days of undergrad" kind of way | 15:31 |
| snap-l | I have several books of lisp on my shelf | 15:32 |
| snap-l | should really get them out someday. | 15:32 |
| snap-l | someday. | 15:32 |
| snap-l | someday. | 15:32 |
| snap-l | I say that a lot. | 15:32 |
| greg-g | ditto | 15:33 |
| Wolfger | ditto | 15:42 |
| Wolfger | Like "someday I should learn Python" | 15:43 |
| Wolfger | "someday I should learn C" | 15:43 |
| Wolfger | "someday I should sit my butt down and start writing an app" | 15:43 |
| Wolfger | someday, I'm gonna be awesome. | 15:43 |
| brousch | sameday, you'll be dead! | 15:46 |
| brousch | hm, not what i intended, but ok | 15:46 |
| rick_h_ | I think everyone does, there's too much stuff these days | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | was listening to a podcast where they got talking how just web development has moved from the one guy you'd hire to do you whole company site | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | to a team of specialists and applications layered in crazy fasion | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | things just get more and more involved and complicated and just trying to keep up somewhere is crazy | 15:53 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Yeah, I tend to agree, though I'm not sure it's as complicated as some folks make it out to be | 16:06 |
| snap-l | at the end of the day it's all about getting bits from one location to another | 16:06 |
| snap-l | I was on a call where they were hyperventilating about adding JSON support to one of our products | 16:07 |
| rick_h_ | meh, it's a lot out there | 16:07 |
| snap-l | and I'm thinking "You already sling XML out this thing. Unless you're doing something crazy stupid, throwing out JSON shouldn't be that dificult" | 16:07 |
| rick_h_ | hahahahahahahaha | 16:07 |
| rick_h_ | except that xml allows for much more complicated stuctures than json | 16:08 |
| snap-l | But then again, it's Java-based so lord knows what gyrations you'd need | 16:08 |
| rick_h_ | the reverse would be true, but going from xml -> json might not even be possible | 16:08 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: I doubt it. It's essentially key-value pairs | 16:08 |
| rick_h_ | ok, yea I mean if it's simple data | 16:08 |
| rick_h_ | but some places have a lot more | 16:08 |
| rick_h_ | think about xml attribs for instance | 16:09 |
| snap-l | just sprinkle some SOAP so Java can auto-cope. | 16:09 |
| rick_h_ | json has no home for them | 16:09 |
| snap-l | True | 16:09 |
| snap-l | I'm firmly in the camp that Java and the auto-tools they use are setting back computer-development about 20 years | 16:10 |
| snap-l | People don't think anymore about what they're using; they just point their IDE at some URL and expect code to just happen. | 16:11 |
| snap-l | Which is all fine and good once you understand what's happening underneath | 16:11 |
| snap-l | [insert standard rant about not being able to build Java code without Eclipse here] | 16:12 |
| snap-l | https://twitter.com/#!/CRREdwards/statuses/90449814415872000 <- Snicker. | 16:14 |
| _stink_ | getting daaarrrkk | 16:35 |
| Wolfger | round 2 of the storm? | 16:36 |
| _stink_ | looks like it | 16:36 |
| _stink_ | didn't really get much of a round one up here | 16:37 |
| greg-g | yeah, no round 1 here, but what just happened as round 2 was crazy. It was almost as dark as night | 16:38 |
| Wolfger | CNN needs more poll options. Like "Yes", "No", and "Don't be stupid." | 17:08 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: You expect people online to not be stupid? | 17:15 |
| snap-l | Bwahahahaha | 17:15 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: hah, so we craigslisted our fish tank | 17:16 |
| jcastro | and this dude came over | 17:16 |
| jcastro | and he misread so he thought I was giving him my entire kit for $35 | 17:16 |
| jcastro | I'm like no dude, $350. | 17:16 |
| jcastro | he's like "oh, well bye." | 17:16 |
| snap-l | Fuckin' Craigslist | 17:16 |
| jcastro | well, we have emails with him | 17:17 |
| jcastro | he just didn't read I guess | 17:17 |
| jcastro | it's like yes dude, you're getting this huge entire aquarium setup with everything including the kickass substrate for growing plants for thirty five bucks. | 17:17 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: No, I expect CNN to not be stupid. Which I admit is nearly as laughable an idea... | 17:17 |
| Wolfger | Thanks, jcastro, for that excellent example of stupid people on the internet. :-) | 17:18 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: lol | 17:18 |
| rick_h_ | well sucky | 17:18 |
| snap-l | jcastro: yeah, that sucks | 17:20 |
| jcastro | I more want it gone so I can go bigger next time. :) | 17:21 |
| jcastro | just doesn't make sense to set it up in a place where I will only be a year | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | uh oh, jcastro has the bug | 17:21 |
| snap-l | Yeah, no kidding | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I'm dying to set mine back up | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | the boy loves watching fish at the stores/etc | 17:21 |
| snap-l | I want to get back into keeping up an aquarium | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | think I'll start it back up this fall when the yard duties cut down | 17:22 |
| snap-l | but right now isn't the best time to be dumping money into fish | 17:22 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea, everything going ok with the relocation project? | 17:22 |
| brousch | maybe you should invest in fish you can eat when they get too big | 17:22 |
| brousch | or maybe sardines | 17:22 |
| brousch | instead of tropical foofoo fish | 17:22 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: It goes. I think he's settling in | 17:22 |
| snap-l | but his TV is jacked, and he wants cable and ... | 17:23 |
| rick_h_ | ah, gotcha | 17:23 |
| snap-l | Hell, I told him I'd put Dirty Jobs in the DVD player on repeat | 17:24 |
| snap-l | same thing as cable | 17:24 |
| brousch | start a new movement: The Patriot Aquarium | 17:24 |
| brousch | like the patriot gardens | 17:24 |
| Wolfger | Invest in sushi. Freshly caught and cut. :-) | 17:28 |
| snap-l | Heh | 17:29 |
| brousch | wow, the end of the first answer http://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100403214603AADijSp | 17:33 |
| snap-l | heh | 17:35 |
| rick_h_ | ok, thanks for destroying my lunch appetite | 17:35 |
| snap-l | I'm having trouble getting a VM to work on this X120e. | 17:36 |
| snap-l | Hoping that creating it on another machine will fix things | 17:36 |
| snap-l | bloody hell | 17:37 |
| snap-l | something about virtualbox is not happy here. | 17:37 |
| brousch | virtualbox -- | 17:37 |
| brousch | vmware is more stable | 17:37 |
| _stink_ | yahoo answers, classic. | 17:38 |
| snap-l | WEll, even so, VB works on my other machine | 17:38 |
| _stink_ | "someone i know ate a goldfish and said it was nasty" | 17:38 |
| snap-l | this won't even boot up 10.04.02 LTS server without panicking. | 17:38 |
| snap-l | Bad RIP value | 17:38 |
| snap-l | and apparently is bad enough to try to kill INIT | 17:39 |
| brousch | http://www.ehow.com/how_5942884_breed-sardines.html | 17:43 |
| snap-l | http://www.metalinjection.net/show-recap/soundgarden-ultramega-comeback-tour | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: http://ditrw.com/booktorious/ | 18:54 |
| brousch | nice | 19:01 |
| snap-l | It's taking a while to load | 19:02 |
| brousch | kindle is the iphone of ereaders. locked in, took off quickly at first, but now android (nook color) is taking the lead | 19:02 |
| snap-l | though ePub is a very friendly format | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | what did you do? load up the big game epub things that choke other ereaders :P | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: I think you've got some rose colored glasses there | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | nook color isn't taking off anywhere atm, the new nook is e-ink and rated "on par" with kindle | 19:03 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: No, I loaded up Miles, Mutants and Microbes from Baen | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | not that they've jumped ahead or anything | 19:03 |
| brousch | "Nook color dethrones Kindle as most popular ereader" http://dvice.com/archives/2011/07/nook-color-is-t.php | 19:04 |
| brousch | rick_h_: what wifi tether app do you use? whatever you were using last year is better than anything i've found | 19:05 |
| rick_h_ | just the baked in OS | 19:05 |
| rick_h_ | never used a tether app | 19:05 |
| snap-l | brousch: Wait a sec, I'll put up some shit site that says that the Kobo just ate Amazon and shit nooks | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | wtf http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110708005437/en/Media-Tablet-Sales-Lag-Optimistic-Quarter-Targets | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | did you read the real article? | 19:06 |
| brousch | no way. i was raised on /. | 19:06 |
| brousch | i don't read past a headline | 19:07 |
| snap-l | There's no numbers | 19:07 |
| rick_h_ | nothing at all, no source, everything is analyist "expectations" | 19:07 |
| snap-l | What we have here is some serious pony-wishing | 19:08 |
| rick_h_ | no kidding | 19:08 |
| rick_h_ | someone's making some $$ on link-bait | 19:09 |
| rick_h_ | http://hothardware.com/News/NOOK-Color-Passes-the-Kindle-Among-eReaders/ | 19:09 |
| rick_h_ | article is almost all ipad, lots of in-body ads for you to click on | 19:09 |
| snap-l | Welcome to the echochamber | 19:10 |
| rick_h_ | welcome to the BS chamber | 19:11 |
| snap-l | come come now, rick_h_, you should know that just by posting crap on the internet, it magicall becomes true | 19:12 |
| snap-l | witness the birth of pasta fetishism. | 19:13 |
| brousch | NOOK 4 LIFE. KINDLE CAN DIAF | 19:13 |
| rick_h_ | this one guy, he said that he thought the kobo was the bestest e-reader evar! Nook + Kindle are baby beaters | 19:13 |
| rick_h_ | so I bought stock in kobo | 19:13 |
| snap-l | Just like all of the people who said that any day now people would realize the brilliance of OS/2 | 19:14 |
| snap-l | and now we're basking in OS/2's incredible marketshare | 19:15 |
| snap-l | OS/2 Vista and OS/2 7 | 19:15 |
| rick_h_ | have you seen all that linux news? it's the most popular. If you do a google trends it's much higher than windows :P | 19:15 |
| brousch | finally | 19:15 |
| snap-l | Well yeah... "how do I run Windows games on my Linux computer" has to be the biggest FAQ of them all. | 19:17 |
| snap-l | Followed by "how do I run Windows games on my Ubuntu" | 19:18 |
| rick_h_ | actually number one search is "WTF is with all these linux asshats?" | 19:18 |
| snap-l | "I installed Linux on my talkie the talking toaster and now all it does is make me crumpets. I can't get it to make toast anymore" | 19:19 |
| snap-l | "Crumpets are better than toast anyway" | 19:19 |
| snap-l | "But I wanted toast" | 19:19 |
| snap-l | "I installed a patch, and now I can get English Muffins, but still no toast" | 19:20 |
| snap-l | "Well, after following a 3 page Ubuntu Forums post, now my toaster tells me to fuck off in Swedish. At least it sounds like Swedish, but I'm not sure. Can someone please help?" | 19:21 |
| _stink_ | "I tried the above commands, and i bricked my toaster. Can you help me." | 19:21 |
| snap-l | "Idiot, talkie the talking toaster doesn't know Swedish. It can't be saying anything in Swedish." | 19:21 |
| snap-l | "OK, after 3 updates, 12 patches, and the threat of violence, my toaster ran away last night. Please help me, as I don't have enough money for a new toaster. Answers to the name 'Nigel'" | 19:22 |
| snap-l | "Thank you for your bug report. We have moved from Natty Nutella to Oblong Orange Marmalade, and are closing your bug report. Have a nice day!" | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | get it all out :P | 19:26 |
| rick_h_ | so went and got the mail, it's not currently 94...that's a nice suprise | 19:26 |
| snap-l | Yeah, but the humidity is 94% | 19:27 |
| snap-l | at least | 19:27 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Is Scrabble Free better than Word Feud? | 20:37 |
| jcastro | it's about the same | 20:37 |
| jcastro | but the squares are in the right place | 20:37 |
| jcastro | i wish they had a pay version, hate these ads. | 20:38 |
| jcastro | it has real push notifications, and a dictionary | 20:39 |
| jcastro | there are some nice things, other things are ok | 20:39 |
| jcastro | wordfeud is faster I think | 20:39 |
| snap-l | Yeah, that's what I'm finding | 20:39 |
| snap-l | I can almost play real-time with Wordfeud | 20:39 |
| jcastro | yeah | 20:39 |
| jcastro | this isn't slow | 20:39 |
| jcastro | I prefer real scrabble since it's the same as the board game | 20:40 |
| snap-l | I thought you'd prefer Wordfeud because they give you all the vowels, and me all of the consonants. :) | 20:41 |
| jcastro | heh | 20:41 |
| snap-l | Couldn't make a fucking word for the beginning of the last game. | 20:41 |
| snap-l | I'm going to drain out my Words With Friends, and stick with Word Feud | 20:41 |
| jcastro | yeah for sure WwF is junk, not sure I will stay with wordfued yet | 20:43 |
| jcastro | it's kind of important to me to play the real scrabble as I play the real game all the time | 20:44 |
| jcastro | so this doesn't have to be better than wordfeud, just not terrible enough | 20:44 |
| jcastro | hahah, the android motto: It only needs to not be totally horrible | 20:44 |
| snap-l | jcastro: We should play a game with random placement | 20:44 |
| snap-l | that'll sharpen ya. ;) | 20:44 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: I got my replacement charger in the mail (and it works!). When will I see you in person next? | 20:59 |
| snap-l | I <3 that there's a catdvi | 21:46 |
| Blazeix | anyone know of a really good noob HTML/CSS tutorial? I need to find one for an intern, and I really don't want to point him to w3schools or tizag... | 21:56 |
| Blazeix | hm, I think I remember htmldog not being terrible, maybe I'll send him that. | 22:05 |
| gamerchick02 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1798769 has anyone in here had this issue? no reply from S76. i'm thinking of calling them tomorrow afternoon. | 22:41 |
| Blazeix | weird, you'd think someone from S76 would at least acknowledge you. | 22:54 |
| gamerchick02 | yeah | 22:55 |
| gamerchick02 | unless they're all on vacation. | 22:55 |
| gamerchick02 | i did get a reply. isantop was on vacation. heh | 23:35 |
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