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tumbleweedreminder: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/07/04/get-ready-for-ubuntu-developer-week-2/07:03
kbmonkeyah thanks for that tumbleweed 07:20
Kilosmorning superfly kbmonkey nuvolari and others07:26
KilosMaaz, coffee on07:26
* Maaz puts the kettle on07:26
KilosMaaz, coffee for all07:26
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already07:26
KilosMaaz, with milk07:27
MaazYay Kilos You aren't one of those skinny guys that needs to drink black coffee to cast a shadow07:27
SquirmMaaz: coffee please07:28
MaazSquirm: Sure07:28
Squirmmmmmm07:28
Squirmmorning07:28
superflymorning Kilos07:28
Kiloshiya Squirm 07:28
Kilosgrrrr07:29
Kilosvodacom got a 20% signal strenght again today07:29
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and Squirm!07:30
KilosMaaz, thanks man07:31
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)07:31
SquirmMTN 3GB UNCAPPED07:31
Squirm...07:31
Squirmthat makes perfect sense07:32
Squirmthen they cap you at 40Gb after hours07:32
Squirmsurely thats something like false advertising?07:32
Kiloslol and how much for the uncapped bundle07:33
SquirmR30007:33
Tonberry40gb a month or per day?07:33
Squirm3Gb for peak times, 40Gb for off-peak07:33
Squirm40Gb a month07:33
Tonberryand they call it uncapped?07:33
Squirmyep07:33
Tonberrydont we have laws about these things07:33
Tonberry?07:33
Squirmthe package is "MTN 3GB UNCAPPED"07:34
Squirmand there's "MTN 10GB UNCAPPED", 10Gb peak, 40gb off-peak07:34
SquirmTonberry: thats what I though07:34
Tonberry“Once the 3GB and or 10GB fair use limit has been reached, the connection speed will be reduced to 128kbps for the user for the remainder of the month. Users will still be able to access the internet and download content, it will just take a bit longer,” MTN explained.07:36
Tonberrythat is how they get past it07:36
Tonberrythey just shape you to death07:36
Squirmbut they still cap you07:37
kbmonkeyawe I'm going to miss the opening UDW session07:37
SquirmUncapped != Capped07:37
Squirmoh07:37
SquirmTonberry: I get it07:37
Tonberrybut 128k is pretty damn bad07:39
Kilosmtn sucks here. this tower is only an edge tower07:39
Kilosso never gets close to 128k/s anyway07:40
Squirmyeah, im on 384k line with access, R200 for data07:40
Tonberryedge can do 128k07:40
Squirmbut that would be mobile broadband07:40
Tonberrythats only 16KB/s07:40
Squirm*We used the theoretical download maximum of 16 bytes per second over a 30 day period to calculate MTN’s lowest possible per-MB pricing.07:41
Kilosis it not all mobile broadband Tonberry 07:41
Tonberryno that it is not07:41
Squirm8ta, you get 10Gb a month for R20007:41
Tonberryhttp://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/348942-MTN-s-new-uncapped-broadband-pricing-compared07:42
Squirmand 10Gb peak and 10Gb off-peak for R30007:42
Kilosmy modem and fone work with mobile broadband in nm07:42
SquirmTonberry: yeah, thats where im at07:42
nuvolarimoring oom Kilos, Squirm, kbmonkey, Tonberry 07:47
nuvolarieveryone else07:47
kbmonkeyhello daar07:49
Kiloswhois daar07:50
Kiloshehe07:50
Kiloshavent seen him here before07:50
nuvolari % whois daar                                     07:50
nuvolariNo whois server is known for this kind of object.07:50
nuvolari % whois daar                                     07:50
nuvolariNo whois server is known for this kind of object.07:50
nuvolarioops07:50
nuvolarisorry07:50
* superfly whacks nuvolari over the head07:50
Kilosyou gotta /whois07:50
Kiloslol07:50
nuvolariI said sorry07:51
Kiloslol07:51
nuvolari:'(07:51
Kilosyou may whack me too superfly  but not onna head07:52
Kiloslo DraZoro 07:52
DraZoroHi Kilos 07:52
superflyKilos: that's OK, you've been whacked enough ;-)07:52
Kiloslol ty07:52
superflyI figure the last whack you had to the head was good enough to last you the rest of your life ;-)07:52
kbmonkeyha ha you people are nuts07:53
Kilosyeah07:53
Kiloskbmonkey, you dont know about my whach onna head?07:53
Kiloswhack07:53
kbmonkeynuvolari, start the lpi setup this week, yes? ;)07:54
kbmonkeywho wacked you over the head Kilos?07:54
Kilosa windmill07:54
Kilosyou think i was always so doff07:54
Kilossent me to the happy hunting grounds07:55
Kilossuperfly, hows the family?07:56
superflyKilos: they're fine thanks07:56
Kilosgreat07:57
* kbmonkey thinks i need to move my whole rig into the sunny lounge07:58
Kilossun is good07:58
Kilosfrom behind the pc or you cant see the screen07:59
Kiloskbmonkey,  itried to single out the relevant page for you08:10
Kiloshttp://mileyssignificantblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/pain-of-my-life.html08:10
Kiloslo sdehaan 08:10
nuvolarikbmonkey: affirmative08:10
nuvolaritime?08:11
nuvolaridate/time08:11
kbmonkeyIll have a read Kilos :)08:11
kbmonkeyno date/time nuvolari, work with your own schedule, we have different times now eh? ;)08:12
kbmonkeyie this week we setup the environment - ill send an email about this08:13
superflykbmonkey, nuvolari?08:14
kbmonkeywe working through LPI material superfly 08:15
kbmonkeyyou keen?08:15
superflyah, ok08:15
superflynot really, I don't have time for it08:15
superflyi.e. I'd love to, but I don't have time08:15
kbmonkeywell we'll keep it easy and people can work at their own pace08:16
kbmonkeythose of us who can, will work more, and just help others with questions :)08:17
nuvolariit's a pretty heavy document08:27
kbmonkeynah, just a lot of it. one section at a time should do it :)08:29
Kilosnuvolari, kbmonkey where you guys gonna do it08:31
kbmonkeyright here Kilos :p08:31
Kiloshow big is the download of the document?08:31
kbmonkeythe exams we can write at prometric testing centers, so when we ready we can plan a exam date08:32
kbmonkeyare you on the ubuntu za mailing list kilos?08:32
Kilosi just wanna learn not write exams08:32
Kilosyip08:32
kbmonkeyof course kilos, thats a great idea - free knowledge!08:32
kbmonkeyKilos, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2011-July/008025.html08:34
Kiloshow big is the download kb08:35
kbmonkeylet me check08:35
KilosGRR08:35
kbmonkeyits a pdf, 4.2MB08:35
kbmonkeythe link for it is on this page: http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual08:35
Kilosow08:36
Kiloslemme work something out08:36
kbmonkeyI can gz it for you to 3.8MB :p08:36
kbmonkeyyou have a low limit Kilos? 3g is pricey hey08:36
Kilosyeah i am trying to stretch 100m over a month08:37
Kilosthats why i dont browse08:37
Kilosjust here pidgin and mails08:38
kbmonkeysjoe, that is 3.3 MB a day allowance :(08:39
Kiloslol yeah08:40
Kilosthats why i miss a week or so every month08:40
kbmonkeythat is a ridiculous option from a isp - have those people no brains, no morals?08:40
Kilosit came with a modem ian bought and left for me08:41
Kiloslol08:41
Kilosthats why i said last night it would be nice to find a port to them to miss the counter08:42
Kilosnot the modem the sim. his modem is very fulla08:43
Kilosmine works hacked and all08:43
Kilosthe fly says i going to hell for that08:44
Kiloslol08:44
kbmonkeyha ha - isee08:45
Kilosbut we just threaten him with super doom08:45
kbmonkeywe need to send you a care package 08:46
Kiloswith grandpa powders08:46
Kiloshehe08:46
kbmonkeyand rusks08:46
Kiloshehe08:46
Kilosi go get the manual now. if i disappear blame voda.08:50
kbmonkeylets see if we can chop the file up to smaller bits for you kilos08:51
Kilosmust i click the free ebook one not the old syllabus08:52
Kilosthe new 100m comes tomorrow kbmonkey 08:52
kbmonkeyyes kilos only the new syllabus link08:52
Kilosok i will get it08:52
Kilosty08:52
kbmonkeythey release the material in versions just like software, the top is the latest version08:53
kbmonkeyright-click and "save as"08:53
Kilosim set up to save every download to desktop08:54
Kilosi use epiphany08:54
Kilosnot a ff fan08:54
kbmonkeyyou're more clever than the avg user Kilos ! ;P08:57
Kiloslol08:57
Kilosoo this is for trainers08:59
Kilosexperts08:59
kbmonkeyI doubt 100mb will last on windows long 08:59
kbmonkeyits a book for both learners and trainers Kilos :)09:00
Kilosit didnt09:00
Kilosluckily when i first cot online boet helped with 2g a month09:00
kbmonkeywhich is great cos you can ignore the training parts, but they will help teach skills so you can hep other users easier ;)09:01
Kilosyeah thats great09:01
Kilosi think i gonna enjoy this09:02
Kilosi normally give the wrong help09:02
kbmonkeywhat other linuxes do you have with you?09:02
kbmonkeylike on cd or iso?09:02
Kilosonly ubuntu09:02
Kilosall ubuntu from 8.1009:02
kbmonkeythe study works with CentOS, but you can easily get away with any other distro09:03
Kilosanything that helps broaden the knowledge base is good09:04
Kilosi just save hundreds of docs for going back to. to get the correct commands etc09:05
kbmonkeyIf you want i can see about sending you some discs09:05
Kilosof what 09:06
Kilosother distros?09:06
kbmonkeyyes, ubuntu 11.04, CentOS, 09:08
kbmonkeywilliam has ubuntu repos so if we can sort you those, you could install any app in the repo without internet ;)09:09
Kilosi have 11.04 but the data to do upgrades etc is the killer09:09
Kiloswithout internet sounds good09:09
kbmonkeyi think the repos are like 20Gb09:09
kbmonkeybut those usb disks are like cheap now - should fit fine09:09
Kilosthats many cd's09:09
Kilosdont have a dvd09:10
Kilosoh usb09:10
Kilosdo you get them so big?09:10
Kiloslol i thought my 2g one was big09:11
kbmonkeyhey let's strap the usb disk to a carrier pidgeon09:11
Kiloshehe09:11
KilosSuperhuman, wb09:13
Superhumanthanks, new quasselcore09:14
Kilosah09:15
Kiloskbmonkey, will i be able to install centos alongside my maverick without causing hassles09:23
kbmonkeythat depends on how your disk is partitioned Kilos 09:24
kbmonkeya better alternative is to use a virtual machine to run centos and leave your existing install09:24
Kiloswhew will have to learn about virtual machines first09:25
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Kilosuh oh netsplits again09:47
inetproeish09:47
Kilosmôre inetpro 09:47
Kiloswe can sing hibananana09:48
inetprohi Kilos09:49
inetprowb morgs, nuvolari09:50
morgsaloha09:51
nuvolari:? watz happening?09:51
nuvolarithanks inetpro 09:51
inetpronuvolari: 11/07 11:47:08 <Kilos> uh oh netsplits again09:52
* apie don't like doing the splits. unless it's banana splits.09:52
inetproI guess you didn't see that09:52
Kiloshehe09:53
inetprosuperfly: good morning, what's with your connection?09:54
superflyinetpro: I doubt it's my connection09:54
superflyit's Freenode's IRC server09:54
superflyit does that... I've seen it happen to tons of other people09:54
inetproahh, so you just part of the split?09:55
superfly"No Ping reply in 180 seconds."09:55
superflythere's a 180 seconds version, and a 260 seconds version09:55
marcogMaaz: https://twitter.com/marcog/statuses/9037144080895590411:26
Maazmarcog: marcog: "Stellenbosch dev dinner tonight http://goo.gl/VFlfr & Cape Town nerdy food meetup at @kniferestaurant on Wed http://goo.gl/L0dJR all welcome"11:26
superflyinetpro: ping11:34
Tonberryeh?11:34
inetprosuperfly: pong12:11
ghostknifeven12:17
Kilosven vat12:34
Kiloslo ghostknife 12:34
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KilosGuest99737, hi13:22
Kilossigh13:24
Kilosmaybe he dont speeka da english13:24
apiewb Kilos 14:44
apieI read your story, that must have been some nasty whack you had! ouch :(14:45
Kiloslol14:45
Kilosyeah its still hurting 13 years kater14:45
Kiloshehe14:46
Kilosthats why the fly says he wont wahack me more14:46
Kiloswhack14:46
Kiloshe has a soft heart14:46
Kilosthat book is great14:46
Kilosvery informative14:47
Kiloswoulda been nice when i first started14:47
Kiloswill take me months to get through it though14:48
Kilosand a hundred years to learn14:48
apiethe only whacks we give here are |'s14:49
apie\'s are badwhacks14:49
Kilos?? whats that apie 14:50
apiethe pipe is also called a whack :)14:50
Kilosoh is | a whack14:50
apie| <- that thing14:50
apie# = crunch14:50
apie! = bang14:50
apie| = whack14:50
Kiloshard to find that thing everytime i great 30314:50
Kilosyou didnt read the rest of the blog14:51
Kiloslol14:51
Kilosi got one eye too and have to look what i type14:51
Kilostried typing courses but fingers cant bend like3 that14:52
apieI will read the rest of your story :)14:52
Kilosmaybe i will add you in my next blog14:52
apieI need to go practice at ninja school now though -- be back later oom Kilos!14:53
Kiloscool enjoy ans sweat some14:53
apieja we always sweat there -- a lot!14:53
apiegot punched in the snozzle last time. sure does hurt when this cold14:54
Kilosbut great fun and healthy exercise14:54
apiesure is! esp when one's not milking cows and plowing the land, we have to do something instead ;D14:55
Kiloslol14:55
Kilosi also had a few broken bones14:55
Kilosbut thats how you learn14:55
ghostknifeKilos: didn't see your greet. hi.15:17
ghostknifeKilos: btw, I noticed now my "ven". It was during autojoins. I tried typing "/join #maven". weechat's dedicated channel buffers are irritating sometimes.15:18
Kiloslol np15:22
Kilosyou have just moved outa the lurker category for a while15:23
Kilosnow just to get our Guest36050 to say something15:23
ghostknife:)15:31
ghostknife^ skype habbit (one liner emotes)15:31
ghostknifeeither way, off to home15:32
Kiloscheeras ghostknife 15:32
ghostknifeI tried to say hi to nuvolari. he's off. so flood ping him on my behalf when he gets back.15:32
Kiloswill do15:32
KilosMaaz, tell nuvolari ghostknife flood pings him , whatever that might be15:33
MaazKilos: Okay, I'll tell nuvolari on freenode15:33
tumbleweedreminder ubuntu developer week about to kick off http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/07/04/get-ready-for-ubuntu-developer-week-2/ (i'll shut up now)15:48
drubintumbleweed: please don't15:54
drubintumbleweed: this channel is supposed to be for that.15:54
tumbleweeddrubin: :)16:05
nuvolari:O16:40
Maaznuvolari: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell nuvolari ghostknife flood pings him , whatever that might be" 1 hour, 7 minutes and 5 seconds ago16:40
nuvolaribleh.16:41
nuvolarimissed him16:41
Kerbero#ubuntu-classroom16:41
nuvolarieh?16:41
Kerberojust typing so that i remember16:41
Kerbero:P16:41
Kerberothat channel == https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek16:42
Kiloswhats happening in the classroom16:43
KerberoQ&A it seems16:48
Kilosi see ty Kerbero 16:48
Kerberomaar ek het nie nou krag om al daai goed te lees nie16:48
Kiloslol16:48
Kerberoenige website wat langer as 'n paragraaf is is te lank16:49
Kerberonetso is irc wat langer as drie lyne is16:49
Kilosek sukkel om by te bly as hulle begin vinnig gesels16:52
nuvolaribloep16:57
Kiloslol16:58
Kiloswat bloep jy nuvolari 17:00
apiehello. has the UDW session started yet?17:05
apieoh dit het! okay let's jump in 17:05
nuvolariKilos: ek bloep sommer net oom :P17:07
* nuvolari jumps into the LPI doc instead17:07
apiethat's a good idea actually nuvolari :)17:12
nuvolariapie: ye, I guess about 20 pages on average/evening is OK17:19
nuvolariMaaz: 329/20.017:19
Maaznuvolari: 16.4517:19
nuvolari2 months seem like a reasonable target17:20
Kilosare you guys gonna go through that whole manual?17:31
nuvolariKilos: ja oom!17:41
nuvolariwhy not? :P17:41
Kilossjoe julle gaan werk17:41
apiethat manual covers both exams Kilos, so we only learn the first half this time ;)17:42
apie... or the whole thing for those crazies who want to write both17:42
Kilosfrom page 1?17:42
Kilosall the bios info as well17:43
apiesure, bios, copyright, the index too...17:43
Kiloslol17:43
nuvolariye, I read most of it17:43
Kiloswhere do you go write the exams17:43
nuvolariskipped some of the index pages17:43
nuvolarihmm, aparently there's a cenre or 2 close by that can assist us in the exams17:44
Kilosah17:44
Kilosi wish you guys coulda done this 20 years ago17:45
apieapparently prometric & comptia test centers offer exams17:46
apieoh nuvolari I was talking to a girl in my class today, she goes to cti (?) that it training in umhlanga, they're doing a course on Ubuntu!17:47
Kilosgreat17:48
nuvolariapie: there's a cti here? ossum! If I knew that I'd complete my IAD17:53
nuvolariwhen I was there they used Redhat 8, :P  ancient by now17:54
apieI used RH6 for mine in 200117:55
apiegot Quake I compiled and running quick stick17:55
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Kiloslol18:24
Kilosons het n dag apie lyk my18:24
kbmonkeyhe he Kilos - ons het ;)18:25
Kiloslol18:25
Kilosnight all sleep warm20:04
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* sf55 read a bit up on mesa 8 today21:29
sf55talk about a blue monday, going to crash anytime now (hopefully in the bed)21:29
sf55night all21:29
kbmonkeygn sf55 21:30
* kbmonkey also wants to get more into mesa21:31

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