[01:33] <Arthenik> alright, the problem seems to have been with unetbootin. it's installing just fine right now. thanks for steering me in the right direction, madnick. :)
[03:37] <tiktalik> I'm getting freezes in video
[03:37] <tiktalik> Like when I play videogames, the screen will freeze for 5-10 seconds
[03:37] <tiktalik> Any clue what's wrong?
[04:20] <orngjce223> Nope.
[04:20] <orngjce223> ...Oh hi tiktalik fancy seeing you here
[04:31] <tiktalik> ...Oh hi orngjce223, didn't see you in the userlist. Somebody in ubuntu attempted to help me, though.
[04:31] <orngjce223> Oh, cool.
[04:32] <orngjce223> Also Geekthras idles in #opensourcemusicians so meh
[04:33] <Unit193> tiktalik: Wondering, what video card do you have? (Old?)
[04:33] <tiktalik> Unit193, I'm waiting for a possible fix to finish downloading.
[12:35] <moxyr> knome: sorry about the awaynick. Didn't know it was prefered to avoid
[12:35] <moxyr> aatk: remember the 10 sec. delay between grub and init
[12:36] <moxyr> if I add a echo statement at the end of the grub command list
[12:36] <moxyr> then the delay is almost completely gone
[12:36] <moxyr> how can a echo statement have such an influence?
[12:37]  * moxyr doesn't like that behavior...
[13:15] <thauriswulfa> hi guys, what knowledge should I possess to participate in xubuntu development, languages I current know includes, c/cpp,java
[13:18] <aatk> hey moxyr, that's weird, has anything else changed?
[13:19] <aatk> thauriswulfa: have you read through www.xubuntu.org/devel ? or asked in #xubuntu-devel ?
[13:20] <thauriswulfa> asked in #xubuntu-devel still wating for answer
[13:26] <moxyr> aatk: nope nothing else changed. With the echo ofcourse I get an echo message on screen, but nothing else changed
[13:26] <aatk> that's odd
[13:28] <moxyr> I'm also noticing when I have added the echo and when I don't have the delay
[13:29] <moxyr> shutting down and reboot works as normal
[13:30] <moxyr> with the delay I get thown back at login screen
[13:31] <moxyr> but this is a known bug with xfce: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/711571
[13:34] <moxyr> But how the delay is related to the given bug is a complete mystery to me
[14:28] <ryan_> hey anyone around
[14:29] <ryan_> i could use some help with monitor stuff
[14:33] <TheSheep> ryan_: you need to describe your problem
[14:33] <TheSheep> ryan_: if anyone knows the solution, they will answer
[14:33] <ryan_> yeah
[14:33] <ryan_> i got two monitors
[14:33] <ryan_> and want one desktop
[14:34] <ryan_> but it just shows the same desktop on two monitors
[14:34] <ryan_> not sure how to fix it
[14:34] <TheSheep> does your graphic card support xrandr?
[14:34] <ryan_> no clue, where would i look that up?
[14:35] <TheSheep> open a terminal and type 'xrandr'
[14:35] <TheSheep> if it displays a bunch of information about your modes and such, then it is supported
[14:35] <ryan_> ye it does
[14:35] <ryan_> do i need to go into xorg.conf?
[14:36] <ryan_> ive been googling it but the solutions dont seem consistent to what i see in xorg.conf
[14:36] <ryan_> so i dont want to break something
[14:36] <TheSheep> you can do it all with xrandr
[14:36] <TheSheep> !xrandr
[14:37] <TheSheep> ryan_: start with point II
[14:37] <ryan_> ok
[14:41] <HackNewton> hi all
[14:42] <ochosi> !hi
[14:44] <ryan_> im sorry sheep guy maybe im stupid or something but i cant find where it tells you how to unify your desktop accross monitors
[14:46] <TheSheep> ryan_: you make a virtual screen and then make different displays show different parts of the screen
[14:47] <TheSheep> ryan_: point II.5.
[14:55] <ryan_> yeah
[14:55] <ryan_> whats the chmod number if you want to make a file read and writeable
[14:55] <ryan_> its like 777 or something idk thats what it was on solaris
[14:55] <ryan_> its so i can modify xorg.conf the way they said
[14:55] <ryan_> thanks btw
[15:04] <ryan_> hello?
[15:05] <moxyr> 644 is rw-r--r--
[15:06] <ryan_> so chmod rw-r--r-- ?
[15:06] <moxyr> chmod 644 file-name
[15:07] <ryan_> ah
[15:07] <moxyr> this will make the file read and writeable by owner, readable by group and readable by anyone
[15:07] <aatk> if you want read and write for everyone it's just 'chmod a+rw filename'
[15:08] <aatk> which i guess is 666 if you really want the numbers
[15:09] <moxyr> doesn't chmod a+rw reserve the execution setting, while 666 removes execution?
[15:11] <aatk> Hmm, probably
[15:18] <ryan_> its ok i got that part to work
[15:18] <ryan_> but i still cant get it to listen to me after modifying xorg.conf like the manual the sheep gave me said to
[15:18] <ryan_> not sure what i am doing wrong, i just wanted a continous desktop on two screens so i can look at two things at once on seperate sides
[15:19] <aatk> have you restarted X?
[15:19] <ryan_> how do i do such a thing
[15:19] <ryan_> sorry im new to a lot of this
[15:19] <ryan_> :P
[15:20] <ryan_> or do i just reboot
[15:20] <aatk> might as well reboot
[15:20] <ryan_> kk
[15:20] <ryan_> brb
[15:21] <aatk> I hope he hasn't killed X when he turns it back on :/ I thought there was some nice easy way of setting up dual monitors these days?
[15:22] <moxyr> I always do it with nvidia-settings. Just point and click to choose your setup...
[15:23] <aatk> Moment of truth...
[15:23] <ryan_> keeps giving me the same thing
[15:23] <ryan_> not sure what i didnt do
[15:24] <ryan_> i went into xorg.conf as root modified it the way the thing said and then tried to run the command and it keeps telling me xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1440x1440 (desired size 2880x900)
[15:24] <aatk> Is there not just a box you can tick the display settings thing?
[15:25] <ryan_> what
[15:25] <ryan_> if there is i dont know where it is this is what i was told to do to make it so both my monitors function as one desktop not one desktop on 2 monitors
[15:26] <aatk> I'm not at my computer so I can't check right now
[15:27] <aatk> I think it's like Menu>Settings>Display Settings
[15:27] <aatk> Or Menu>System>Display
[15:38] <ryan_> well that didnt work either :(
[15:38] <ryan_> goddamn it
[15:42] <xubuntu_noob> Hi @ all
[15:42] <moxyr> !hi
[15:42] <ryan_> anyone modified xorg.conf before
[15:42] <xubuntu_noob> great :)
[15:43] <ryan_> has anyone
[15:43] <ryan_> ?
[15:43] <aatk> ryan_: yes, but I'm not at my computer
[15:43] <xubuntu_noob> I'm just installing and saying hi.... but I might migrate 15 pc's from a Win domain to linux so I may be back soon
[15:44] <moxyr> sorry ryan, dual screen / project stuff all happens with nvidia-settings here... have no idea how to pull that off in xorg.conf
[15:44] <ryan_> im running ati
[15:44] <ryan_> would gnome work better
[15:44] <ryan_> i used to run xubuntu on my laptop before it broke
[15:45] <moxyr> xubuntu_noob: I hope you'll enjoy the expierence
[15:45] <xubuntu_noob> Thanks moxyr :) I hope my users will before all...!
[15:45] <charlie-tca> xubuntu_noob: great!
[15:45] <xubuntu_noob> Yeah, it's an exciting project.
[15:46] <ryan_> it says in the guide i was given to write virtual and the screen size and i did that but obviously not in the right spot
[15:47] <aatk> ryan_: you might be able to use xfconf. menu>settings>settings editor then there's a "display" option in there
[15:48] <aatk> I'm sure that's how I've done it before
[15:49] <aatk> anyway, i'm heading home, if you've not fixed it by the time I'm back I'll dig out a monitor and try it on my laptop
[15:49] <ryan_> i did that
[15:49] <ryan_> theres no extensions
[15:49] <ryan_> just flipping it and stuff
[15:51] <ryan_> oh
[15:51] <ryan_> wait
[15:51] <ryan_> i mean im in that
[15:51] <ryan_> not sure what to change
[15:51] <ryan_> i saw something that said primary that might be it
[16:14] <ryan_> brb
[17:01] <aatk> any luck>
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[19:34] <jtickle> Hey folks, I just installed xubuntu 11.04, and I can't seem to get my dual monitors to do anything but mirror
[19:34] <jtickle> the Setting Manager > Display thing just doesn't have options for things like left-of or right-of
[19:34] <jtickle> the settings in Settings Editor > displays look exactly right
[19:34] <Sysi> use nvidia/ati-thingy or arandr
[19:35] <Sysi> depending what drivers you have
[19:35] <jtickle> well, if I do xrandr at the command line, all is well... I just prefer not to do that every time I log in
[19:35] <jtickle> oh, arandr, is that different?
[19:36] <Sysi> GUI for xrandr
[19:36] <jtickle> this looks like a winner
[19:36] <jtickle> thanks!
[19:37] <Sysi> you can put the xrandr-script to Settings → sessions and startup → autostart
[19:39] <jtickle> perfect, thanks Sysi
[21:43] <Mandrew> hello is ubuntu netbook version running on the same kernal as the rest of *buntu distros?
[21:45] <pleia2> xubuntu doesn't have a netbook version and the netbook version for ubuntu went away with 11.04
[21:45] <Sysi> *xubuntu never was the netbook version
[21:46] <Sysi> but about every buntu use the same kernel
[21:47] <Mandrew> so the netbook version that ubuntu released didnt have a modified kernel?
[21:48] <Sysi> no, what version you're talking about? number
[21:48] <Sysi> problem with sound or wifi?
[21:50] <Mandrew> no i dont have any problems with a OS just wondering about the kernel, cuz ive heard that it had a modified kernel
[21:51] <Sysi> there are ubuntu-based distroes with modified kernel images but all ubuntu officials have quite the same
[21:52] <Mandrew> ok so it was just a misunderstanding from my side then
[21:53] <Sysi> I think I heard that rumour too, but it was some versions ago
[21:54] <Mandrew> ok well thanks for the help