[03:05] does anybody know what font is used for the panel in plasma-netbook? [03:05] rather, how can I change that font === shocklateboy is now known as shocklateboy92 [07:17] ScottK: I'll try an armel build here using that [07:50] ScottK: still building bug I need to go, dcraw_common.o was built successfully with mfloat-abi=soft [07:51] s/bug/but [08:03] morning [08:06] yofel: Does gpg-agent start when you open your kde session? [08:07] (it should be started by kdm and it's not apparently) === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [08:55] he's gone, but I don't have a gpg-agent running either [08:55] (not the only issue with kdm though as it seems) [08:55] and I managed to trash my next btrfs :S [09:01] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/ (changelog rules) Build with CXXFLAGS += -mfloat-abi=soft to work around launchpad bug #807573 [09:01] Launchpad bug 807573 in Linaro GCC "[armel / 4.6 regression] could not find a spill register" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807573 [09:02] can someone upload that please? [09:05] so, there seems to be list for kde licensing, kde-licensing AT kde DOT org [09:07] when was the last mail to the list? [09:07] ah, bambee's back [09:08] bambee: no, I have no gpg-agent either [09:08] yes :) [09:08] mhh [09:08] have you a "[: 239: =: unexpected operator" in your .xsession-errors ? [09:08] it also seems to ignore other generic xsession stuff [09:08] exact ! [09:08] like our neon xsession profile :( [09:08] arf [09:09] bambee: can't test, I just trashed the btrfs my oneiric installation was on [09:09] I'm on natty right now [09:09] without this gpg-agent I cannot sign any dsc ... arrff [09:09] however I can use debsign by hand... [09:09] bambee: run 'eval $(gpg-agent --daemon)' in your shell, you can use the agent in that shell then [09:09] * bambee checks [09:10] yofel: already tested [09:10] pinentry crashes :D [09:10] huh? not here o.O [09:10] then again, I'm using pinentry-curses [09:12] "Enter passphrase: gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use" [09:12] bah [09:12] uh, wait, that usually means GPG_AGENT_INFO isn't set [09:13] it's set :) [09:13] :( [09:13] anyway, since you did workspace I'll blame you for breaking kdm :P [09:13] what's the problem with kdm? [09:14] :p [09:14] bambee: kdm is responsible for loading the xsession stuff I beliee [09:14] * yofel needs to fix his v button -.- [09:14] are you sure, it's kdm? [09:15] it could be a syntax error in a script loaded by kdm :) [09:15] from /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession: [09:15] # invoke global X session script [09:15] . /etc/X11/Xsession [09:15] (natty) [09:16] right [09:16] that's in oneiric too? [09:16] I don' think /etc/X11/Xsession was renamed [09:18] anyway, time up, will debug this once I get home and resotred O from backup [09:18] *restored [09:18] there is no . /etc/X11/Xsession :D [09:19] see bug found. now re-read your bzr diff [09:20] probably a dropped patch or so (I hope) [09:34] ScottK: is there a page which states the exact requirements for a package to enter the ubuntu archives? [09:34] the best i could find was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic#Copyright [09:35] yofel: could you paste your /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession ? [09:35] please [09:35] (from natty) [09:40] * yofel goes ignoring the prof [09:40] bambee: found it, please revert http://paste.kde.org/94765 [10:09] I'm working on a kubuntu build status page: http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/kubuntu-buildstatus.htm === tazz_ is now known as tazz [10:16] yofel: whet did you get this patch? [10:20] (I am not talking about genkdmconfig.diff but about the patch pasted via paste.kde.org) [10:20] bambee: *that* is from kde-workspace $ bzr diff -r 506..510 [10:20] ok [10:22] bambee: are you working on kdeutils? [10:22] debfx: it's done, but I cannot sign my packages (gpg-agent does not work) [10:22] :( [10:22] why do you need to sign the package? [10:23] to push it into kubuntu-ninjas/ppa ? [10:23] if you didn't change the source just put it in bzr [10:23] ah, no need to do that, i'll just upload it to the archive [10:25] oh [10:25] ok [10:25] pushed into bzr [10:26] debfx: incredibly useful page, more useful than kde-sc-build-status from kubuntu-dev-tools :D [10:26] debfx: see https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kdeutils/+merge/67523 [10:27] bambee: thanks [10:27] sorry for the delay, but I try to solve some stranges behaviours on my system :) [10:28] yofel: I think I need to implement some kind of caching as I have to download and grep all build logs to identify symbol issues ^^ [10:28] well, you could check if there's a new version published, if not -> don't fetch log [10:29] don't remember if there are publish timestamps or if you need to cache the versions you fetched [10:30] I need to figure out how to cronjob the updating of the neon wiki page too, I think hugday has some example code how to update moinmoin page from scripts [10:30] yes, but currently I don't have a database at all [10:31] * yofel looks at lplib api docs [10:33] also we need a tool that fetches the build logs for all archs and pipes them to pkgkde-symbolshelper [10:33] uhm, why not have a look at how http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs was made? [10:33] http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/source/ [10:33] we could probably mod that to suit our needs [10:34] debfx: we have a fetch_buildlogs script in neon, but for the PPA. You can reuse some code maybe [10:35] shadeslayer: it doesn't use a database either [10:36] any particular reason we need that? [10:36] debfx: since you need to upload the package yourself anyway I don't believe there's a point in auto-updating symbolfiles. If we have a script to fetch buildlogs running pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch is easy [10:37] or well, you could script that [10:38] shadeslayer: need what? [10:38] debfx: need a database [10:39] why not just script the entire page using lplib and python? [10:39] yofel: you still need to run symbolshelper four times and select the build log [10:39] shadeslayer: for caching [10:39] oh ... [10:39] -> web dev n00b [10:42] debfx: for fetching from launchpad you could check source_package.date_published, which goes into milliseconds if you remember the last time you updated the page [10:43] or rather binary_package.date_published [10:44] * yofel curses his connection [10:46] using the version should be enough [10:46] sure, but like this you don't have to cache the last version you fetched [10:46] hm, you have that probably anyway [10:47] shadeslayer: kdegames has missing files: /usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/player.py and /usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/tree.py [10:47] I'll add them to the install file [10:48] please do, i'm a bit busy this week owing to GSoC [10:48] will finish up kate today tho === hunger_ is now known as hunger [11:20] yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/67683 [11:21] it's not UNRELEASED because this fix must be pushed into archives :) [11:23] (see the patch itself to be sure, the diff is not really explicit) [11:23] hm, kdemultimedia is marked as 'not in bzr' but it does seem to be in bzr [11:24] bambee: you misunderstood that, it's UNRELEASED. The person that *uploads* it changes that [11:24] if it's not unreleased people will think it's already uploaded [11:25] bambee: and the patch builds fine like that? [11:25] * yofel does a testbuild anyway [11:31] k, seems fine to me [11:32] hm, whoever uploaded workspace didn't fix the changelog [11:34] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 511 * debian/ (changelog patches/genkdmconf.diff) * Merge branch lp:~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace === ximion_ is now known as ximion [11:45] bambee: what's the status of kdeplasma-addons? [11:51] yofel: thanks [11:51] debfx: there are missing files , right? [11:51] debfx: fixing [11:52] I haven't looked at it [11:53] there are 3 themes in list-missing [12:10] feel free to jump in : http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-licensing&m=131047220826396&w=2 [12:19] shadeslayer: tell him we want some thanks for fixing most of that :P [12:20] yofel: i did mention that in the second email [12:20] yofel: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-doc-english&m=131046472217373&w=2 [12:20] <3 the new qtcreator [12:21] ah true, that threaded behaviour is odd :/ [12:24] \o/ http://i.imgur.com/Qra5F.png [12:26] shadeslayer: new? [12:27] also your colors are broken [12:27] apachelogger: qtcreator-2.2.81 [12:27] nah, they were broken earlier, i fixed the [12:27] s/the/them/ [12:27] shadeslayer meant: "nah, themy were broken earlier, i fixed the" [12:27] nice, does it haz vi input mode? :P [12:27] . . . [12:27] yofel: yes [12:27] oh, cool :D [12:28] shadeslayer: so what is the newness? [12:28] * apachelogger is on 2.3 for like ages [12:29] i was on whatever is in the archives for a couple of weeks [12:29] the last time i tried 2.2.x it kept crashing in neon [12:29] probably a neon bug [12:30] the only thing that does not work for me is qmldump [12:30] well, it works technically, but only sometimes and it complains eitherway [12:30] apachelogger: yeah, what is that anyway? [12:30] dumps qml type info from cpp [12:30] to use in the code model for autocompletion and in the qml designer [12:31] wait what [12:31] sounds funky [12:31] it requires private headers ^^ [12:31] i need to figure out whats the best way to access dbus interfaces using QML [12:31] all fun [12:31] so [12:31] shadeslayer: did you sees my meego video player? [12:31] apachelogger: yus [12:31] also I broke me panda and I am not quite sure how [12:32] apachelogger: can it play 720p ? [12:32] apachelogger: already? :O [12:32] yus [12:32] perhaps the image is put [12:32] you could probably RMA i [12:32] *it [12:34] perhaps [12:34] * apachelogger wonders how to turn on verbose booting [12:41] apachelogger: where? kernel or upstart? (or panda?) [12:45] all of it [12:45] actually verbose kernel would help [12:45] remove silent from boot args? [12:46] it uncompresses and then boots the kernel [12:46] but i guess you already dud that [12:46] from there on I see nothing on rs232 [12:46] *did [12:46] shadeslayer: no such bootarg [12:46] also adding verbose to what seemed to be the bootargs did not do bonkers [12:46] perhaps the cmdline is compiled in *shrug* [12:51] apachelogger: from what i can see on the ML, you can set bootargs [12:51] url? [12:51] aha [12:52] apachelogger: boot args are in /proc/cmdline [12:52] can you edit that? [12:54] * apachelogger blinks [12:54] dude [12:54] apachelogger: http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/b87aa302a38b8678/1fd4949a44315096?lnk=gst&q=heat+sink [12:54] srsly [12:54] stop doing that to me [12:54] shadeslayer: does you haz ubuntu monospace font? [12:54] um ... dunno [12:54] unless the package was automatically updated, no [12:56] heh : http://i.imgur.com/PmhDO.png [12:56] talk about geometry in systemsettings [12:56] geometry? [12:57] apachelogger: don't have monospace you-boon-too fonts [12:57] it happens [12:57] apachelogger: http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/553aa56ee1692b3e << this one talks about bootargs as well [12:58] good thing they are very open [13:04] I really do not get this [13:04] also I have too many cards [13:04] G [13:04] G+ [13:05] I get the feeling it fails to bring up me display [13:06] no idea why that could be [13:09] yofel: If that works, then I'd say we should get it in as a work around. [13:10] shadeslayer: AFAIK there is not. What's the question? [13:10] right, give me a moment to add a comment [13:11] ScottK: http://lists.kde.org/?t=131046146600007&r=1&w=2 [13:15] shadeslayer: Without a license, they aren't distributable, so without a copy of the FDL, the FDL bits aren't distributable. There's nothing uncertain about it. External pointers that may change don't count. [13:15] If they want relicense all the docs as GPL (with permission from the authors) then they don't need it. [13:15] ScottK: right, but i just wanted to add some docs which state our policy [13:16] It's not a question of policy, but legality. [13:16] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/rules document what the workaround is for [13:17] ok, either way, this has caught their attention, and the thread might move to kde-core-devel [13:20] shadeslayer: what is the status of kate? [13:20] apachelogger: still WIP, needs more splitting [13:20] and then symbols etc for the new libs [13:21] apachelogger: a bit busy with GSoC for the next few days, so its going to take a bit [13:21] my code is ugly/dirty [13:21] ah, make up for lazyness [13:21] I see [13:21] might be a suspicious right before midterm :P [13:22] actually, its just dirty, it works (TM) [13:22] need to fix var naming and other minor things [13:33] shadeslayer: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html [13:34] "You should also include a copy of the license itself somewhere in the distribution of your program. " [13:34] well, should [13:34] FDL actually is more explicit about this IIRC [13:34] for FDL you really must [13:39] heh, in that case we need to discuss this on kde-core-devel [13:46] what is there to discuss? [13:46] either it is properly licensed or it is not [13:46] * yofel wonders why nobody except us cares about this... === ximion1 is now known as ximion [13:53] yofel: cuz it is a flipping pita [13:53] it sure is... [13:57] adding licences isn't hard to fix for those who have kde commit access though [13:58] true, but if that wouldn't include most of us here it would be HELL [13:58] This reminds me .... [13:59] I wasn't very good about checking for Messages.sh in the split tarballs. [13:59] We should watch for that in rc2 and fix them if it's missing. [14:00] ScottK: can you upload libkdcraw? so it's off the list for now [14:00] yofel: It's in bzr? [14:00] yes [14:00] I'll have a look. [14:02] yofel: We only want that flag on armel. [14:02] * ScottK will fix [14:02] oops, right, thanks [14:14] yofel: if you have time and interest herding the support channel for some time, please do [14:16] yofel: Done. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. [14:19] does someone knows how I can force an installation to pick the or depends? like I don't want apache and I have another http server but I thought it would pick automatically but seems it doesn't.. [14:20] If there is an or depends and it's already installed, it shouldn't pull in apache. [14:21] hmm weird... then [14:21] it's the mantis package on lucid and I already have nginx installed [14:32] ngnix doesn't provide httpd [14:32] but httpd provide ngingx [14:34] nginx Provides: httpd in lucid [14:37] debfx: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kdeplasma-addons/+merge/67711 [14:37] ;) [14:45] that looks about right if there were no symbol updates [14:45] kubuntu-devs: Can someone push lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace (the last fix) into archives ? [14:45] it fixes an important (and STUPID) bug :) [14:46] bambee: already in [14:46] yofel: lovely [14:46] thank debfx ;) [14:46] :D [14:49] yofel: Win: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkdcraw/4:4.6.90+repack1-0ubuntu2/+build/2622041 [14:51] :D [15:08] Riddell: With your upstream KDE licensing police hat on, I'd like to bring http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277370 to your attention. Seems a bit dodgy. [15:08] KDE bug 277370 in libkdcraw "Unclear licensing for profiles/prophoto icm and profiles/srgb-d65 icm" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [15:08] ICM stuff is always evil for licencing [15:08] I think it's what stops java being properly free [15:11] The files have been there since ~2007 so I didn't block it from New here, but it ought to get a proper resolution upstream. [15:12] krita/data/profiles/README seems OK [15:13] profiles/srgb-d65.icm seems to be likely problematic. [15:14] Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company, no license, and the upstream comment is that one can download copies that are 'similar' [15:23] that file is shipped with Windows [15:24] Lovely. [15:29] add the README from krita and remove that file should do it [15:29] I'll comment on the bug [16:12] my oxygen is leaking memory [16:18] apachelogger: Better than the reverse [16:21] perhaps [16:27] haha [16:27] lol [16:27] kmix with pulse is rather awful [16:27] on amarok track changes it recreates the complete slider [16:27] whats more... it does that even when minimized to try [16:27] and people wonder where their battery goes [16:39] yofel: do you have an idea how I can get the build log of a package that has been copied over from the last release? [16:39] archive.getPublishedSources(...)[0].getBuilds() doesn't have any entries in that case [16:46] debfx: no idea :/ [16:51] Are there any plans to put Amarok 2.4.2 in one of the Natty PPAs? [18:08] anyone around? [18:08] hello hello [18:08] omg [18:10] * charlie-tca is here, for what it is worth [18:20] * micahg waves to apachelogger [18:27] charlie-tca, micahg: are you by any chance running amarok and kmix? [18:27] ah [18:27] nvm [18:28] no [18:34] yofel: kdebase-bin needs to be transitional package as it has quite a few rdepends [19:02] [kmix] sitter * 1241346 * trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/kmix/backends/mixer_pulse.cpp (log message trimmed) [19:02] Do not emit signals directly but queue invokeMethod them to resolve a memleak in [19:02] KMix/Oxygen caused by PA callbacks. Oxygen internally uses deleteLater to remove [19:02] debfx, yofel, ScottK: ^ please get that backported to at least natty === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [19:05] apachelogger: Need a lp bug with test case. [19:05] [kmix] sitter * 1241347 * branches/KDE/4.7/kdemultimedia/kmix/backends/mixer_pulse.cpp backport r1241346 Resolving a memleak in KMix/Oxygen caused by PA callbacks. [19:05] ScottK-droid: amarok + kmix -> swtich tracks -> watch ksysguard report increasing memusage [19:05] stopping/playing also works [19:05] also one sees the leak after like 5 tracks already [19:07] Someone files the bug, I'll do the sru. === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [19:28] yofel: ping === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [19:35] brr [19:38] debfx: k, I'll add it back [19:38] yofel_: brb shopping, libkdcraw still needs uploading? [19:38] Quintasan: pong [19:38] nope, done === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:38] * Quintasan marks as done [19:39] someone could upload cantor, doesn't look like it's going to be fixed anytime soon [19:39] so upload with the backends that are built [19:39] * Quintasan leaves kdemultimedia testbuilds and goes to shop [19:40] Quintasan: I did a testbuild of multimedia earlier, fine except some new symbols which I put into bzr [19:40] yofel: Good. One more testbuild before upload won't hurt :P [19:40] .9 [19:40] bah [19:40] :) [19:43] yofel: I'm getting missing symbols on i386... [19:44] fun [19:44] http://paste.kde.org/95143 [19:44] IIRC there was a package that had symbols on i386 that weren't on amd64 too [19:45] Quintasan: is that pbuilder up-to-date? meaning: really synced with archive toolchain [19:45] * Quintasan updates [19:46] oh [19:46] gcc updates [19:46] the *D0Ev@Base etc. symbols seem to be a recent addition [19:46] K, gotta run to shop if I want to buy something [19:47] sure [19:56] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [19:56] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ping [19:57] <_Groo_> apachelogger: are you there m8? === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [20:08] <_Groo_> anyone alive? [20:11] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ping [20:12] he made the emprie of phonon so large that he's now lost in the hallways [20:13] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah its about phonon, more precisely the gstreamer backend i want to talk with him about [20:13] <_Groo_> does he mantains the dragon player too? [20:13] <_Groo_> or thats kde multimedia guys? [20:13] well, he should get back eventually [20:13] <_Groo_> he prolly went out to get booze [20:13] no idea, although I think he occupied kdemultimedia in rhonda [20:14] so he should own that too now [20:14] <_Groo_> yofel: k [20:15] ScottK-droid: kdegraphics-thumbnailers is NEW [20:16] K. Will look when I get home. [20:16] thanks [20:18] why do we install kdegraphics-strigi-plugins by default? the pdf support for strigi? [20:27] hm I think it doesn't even provide that [20:28] Riddell: do you remember why kdegraphics-strigi-plugins is in the desktop seed? [20:28] yofel: K, no missing symbols now [20:28] yofel: reviewing and uploading [20:29] oh wait [20:29] why review [20:29] that did not change at all [20:30] you did that, I just added some symbols [20:30] I know [20:30] hmm [20:31] is there a specific term for "understanding what are you reading" in English? [20:32] a) I believe that should be "understanding what you are reading" b) no idea [20:33] Maybe ScottK knows ^ [20:33] reading comprehension? [20:33] reading comprehension is good [20:34] hm, sounds about right indeed [20:35] So, I read the changelog proactively trying to understand what it says instead of just looking at it [20:35] kdemultimedia uploaded [20:51] debfx: Is kdegraphics-thumbnailers new for 4.7? [20:51] I'm trying to figure out if the source was previously in Main or not. [20:54] ScottK: the files were in kdegraphics-strigi-plugins [20:54] debfx: Thanks. [20:55] ScottK: imho we should just drop kdegraphics-strigi-plugins from the seeds and move it to universe [20:55] debfx: I'll accept it into Main and then we can decide that later. That way if we want it, it's easier to keep. [20:56] libkipi_4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu2_source.changes rejected *sigh* [20:56] ScottK: could you sponsor that? [20:56] SUre. [20:57] thumbnailers source accepted. [20:59] debfx: All the libkipi changes aren't in debian/changelog. I'm not going to fix it, but I think that it's better to be more verbose. [21:00] debfx: Uploaded. === amichairo is now known as amichair [21:17] debfx: we need to drop that anyway since it's a transitional package for kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer and kdegraphics-thumbnailers [21:18] put both of them in universe? (if yes, meta-kde needs an update) [21:18] I'm not sure if we should really drop the strigi-analyzer [21:19] yofel: it only provides support for dvi and tiff [21:20] well, ok then [21:20] we need a better plugin system :/ [21:23] plugin system for what? [21:23] how are people supposed to know that you can install the packages? [21:23] <_Groo_> join #calligra [21:24] * yofel hands _Groo_ a slash [21:24] * _Groo_ cuts himself :P [21:25] shadeslayer: talked to upstream re gwenview docs? [21:25] if not I'll file a bug [21:25] <_Groo_> my personal calligra packages are starting to achieve stable status :D [21:25] <_Groo_> i build calligra for natty once a week, waiting for the next beta/rc [21:26] <_Groo_> so ill just have to upload them staging for your guys pleasure and amusement [21:26] _Groo_: good, then make the alpha3 into something that can be considered for some PPA ;) [21:26] <_Groo_> yofel: well i didnt upload it yet, cause quitte frankly there are not quitte there yet [21:26] <_Groo_> crashes are rare now [21:26] <_Groo_> but is still has a lot of missing stuff [21:27] <_Groo_> like flow is missing the connect shapes engine... or at least the funcionality [21:27] <_Groo_> but its getting there [21:27] <_Groo_> and it will rock when it goes gold.. i love it already [21:27] <_Groo_> very fast, very feature rich... really good indeed [21:37] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 179 * debian/ (changelog control) Add transitional package for kdebase-bin since many packages still depend on it [21:37] debfx: ^ [21:39] debfx: why shouldn't kdegraphics-strigi-plugins be in the desktop seed? [21:39] Riddell: for one it's a transitional package, and I'm not sure we need the 2 packages that replace it in there either [21:40] Riddell: it might be unneeded functionality for the default installation [21:40] yofel: thanks [21:40] debfx: I'll do a ppa upload first to check if something else has unverioned breaks against it [21:41] *unversioned [21:41] if it's a transitional package then it should be replaced with whatever the new packages are [21:41] and indeed you could argue it's not needed at all since we don't have strigi on by default [21:41] although I've had strigi on by default for a while and it doesn't get in my way [21:43] * yofel checks what's up with kdevelop [21:45] Riddell: it's not about strigi in general, that package only provides plugins for dvi, tiff and mobipocket [21:46] debfx: yep. I wonder what mobipocket is [21:49] well remove it from the seed if you don't like it [22:01] kdegraphics-thumbnailers binaries accepted. [22:06] shadeslayer: no idea how you got kdevelop to build, either your pbuilder is fooey or I'll blame new cmake. Fails on both i386 and amd64 for me [22:08] apachelogger: any progress with the mobipocket package? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [22:57] debfx: yesterday also was phonon day, so will be today [22:57]