| jamesensor | hello everyone, can someone advise me with hard disk errors caused by ubuntu? load unload cycles on a western digital hd | 01:00 |
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| Ursinha | bug 809097 | 01:55 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 809097 in launchpad "Can't mark a blueprint as superseded by another blueprint from a different project (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809097 | 01:55 |
| benonsoftware | Hi all | 04:28 |
| hggdh | eeeBotu will be offline for a few minutes, while it moves to a new server | 04:28 |
| benonsoftware | Does anyone know of a package that needs 'adopting'? | 04:29 |
| hggdh | eeeBotu is back. Thank you for your patience | 04:39 |
| * micahg hugs hggdh | 04:40 | |
| * hggdh hugs micahg :-) | 04:40 | |
| hggdh | and, with that, another old server bites the dust (and the last I had still running Hardy) | 04:41 |
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| brendand | jibel - i think this bug needs assigning https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/806636 | 10:25 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 806636 in compiz (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[Oneiric] Compiz fails to update window title until focused window is changed for a number of applications (gedit, eog, chromium) (affects: 2) (dups: 2) (heat: 22)" [High,Confirmed] | 10:25 |
| brendand | am i allowed to assign as bug-control? | 10:26 |
| seb128 | brendand, the bug you closed as duplicate was properly targetted and assigned... | 10:27 |
| seb128 | brendand, usually when a bug is properly targetted and assigned don't close it | 10:28 |
| seb128 | brendand, now you create extra work to find somebody to redo the triaging work which was already properly done | 10:28 |
| brendand | seb128 - sorry, it wasn't assigned when i started looking at it | 10:29 |
| seb128 | brendand, hum, I assigned it sam yesterday evening | 10:30 |
| seb128 | when I added my comment | 10:30 |
| seb128 | well, anyway seems jibel fixed it ;-) | 10:30 |
| jibel | brendand, lowered to medium | 10:30 |
| seb128 | hey jibel! | 10:31 |
| jibel | Salut seb128 | 10:31 |
| jibel | morning brendand ! | 10:31 |
| brendand | anyway, my apologies - the older bug was already confirmed and having the exact same symptom | 10:32 |
| seb128 | brendand, no worry | 10:33 |
| brendand | i also don't think the chromium issue is the same thing, trying to get a confirmation from the reporter of that one | 10:34 |
| brendand | chromium doesn't display the page title when the window isn't maximised | 10:35 |
| brendand | seems by design, or a regression in chromium | 10:35 |
| brendand | since the same behaviour is in compiz & metacity | 10:35 |
| brendand | okay, also same issue in totem | 10:38 |
| brendand | so it's any gnome app that tries to update the title | 10:38 |
| brendand | still Medium? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | it's only cosmetic | 10:41 |
| seb128 | so medium seems ok | 10:41 |
| brendand | dunno | 10:41 |
| brendand | gedit also doesn't scratch out the 'saved' star when you press save | 10:42 |
| brendand | that's functionality | 10:42 |
| brendand | medium is okay though | 10:42 |
| seb128 | when did that start? | 10:42 |
| brendand | well, original report is from last week - but i'm sure i was noticing the 'save' problem before then | 10:43 |
| brendand | even before the platform rally | 10:43 |
| seb128 | ok, trying to rule out components because compiz didn't get a lot of updates in oneiric | 10:45 |
| brendand | for some reason i can't reproduce the problem with gedit right now | 10:46 |
| brendand | wonder what i did | 10:46 |
| brendand | confirmed in pretty much any application which changes the titlebar | 10:55 |
| brendand | firefox, banshee | 10:55 |
| brendand | should be high | 10:55 |
| jibel | the retracer should definitely not touch reports that are already targeted or triaged in some way :( | 12:06 |
| seb128 | jibel, or bugs that are not retraced yet should not be targeted and triaged | 12:07 |
| seb128 | jibel, said differently "yes, that would be nice but it would requires teaching apport what is a bug triaged or which ones are fine to close or not" | 12:09 |
| jibel | seb128, lesson learned, I'll unsubscribe the retracer and remove the need-retracing tag next time. | 12:09 |
| seb128 | jibel, it might be easier to just not use non retraced bugs for tracking | 12:09 |
| seb128 | jibel, or ping us to get the bug retraced | 12:09 |
| seb128 | then you can triage it | 12:09 |
| jibel | seb128, I meant the duplicate checker sorry. | 12:11 |
| seb128 | jibel, sorry about the issue and about the retracer being down for a while | 12:12 |
| jibel | seb128, no problem | 12:12 |
| jibel | but it is sometimes confused by similar traces. For example it marked all the recent GConf import error in update-manager duplicate of bug 441483 which is unrelated. | 12:13 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 441483 in python-support (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>() (affects: 82) (dups: 96) (heat: 752)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441483 | 12:13 |
| seb128 | jibel, yeah, tricky since the signature is similar | 12:22 |
| mvo | *coug* I need to fix this one | 12:27 |
| jibel | seb128, the same problem happens with other packages like dpkg, aptdaemon or ubiquity for example when the trace is rather generic. | 12:28 |
| seb128 | jibel, open an apport bug with some example and assign it to pitti maybe? | 12:28 |
| seb128 | mvo, you can probably close this one since you stopped used gconf | 12:28 |
| seb128 | or ignore me, I didn't read the bug | 12:29 |
| seb128 | just the gconf import error part ;-) | 12:29 |
| mvo | yeah | 12:30 |
| jibel | mvo, I'm closing bug 441483, will point users to bug 807715 and won't move the duplicates to the right report to avoid useless email noise. | 12:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 441483 in python-support (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>() (affects: 82) (dups: 96) (heat: 752)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441483 | 12:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 807715 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Missing dependency on gir1.2-gconf-2.0 (affects: 21) (dups: 10) (heat: 136)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807715 | 12:35 |
| wagafo | A question: if a reference to an upstream bug is entered to a bug, what is the status that has to be entered to the original package in the bug? "confirmed"? or leave it as "new"? | 12:46 |
| brendand | wagafo - what's the status of the upstream bug? was it an existing one or did you just create it? | 12:50 |
| wagafo | The upstream was an existing bug on "evince" and it was marked as a bug actually in "poppler" , sort of a regression because it was something fixed that started misfunctioning again. If you want to take a look it is bug #808894 | 12:57 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 808894 in evince (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "bad selected text rendering (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808894 | 12:57 |
| wagafo | Now I see it has been market as "triaged", but still interested in knowing what should I have entered. | 12:59 |
| brendand | wagafo - if you can't confirm it in ubuntu then leave it at new | 13:00 |
| brendand | wagafo - in this case it was easily confirmable | 13:00 |
| brendand | in fact it's still there in oneiric | 13:01 |
| wagafo | Yes, it was confirmable. Understood and thanks! | 13:01 |
| pedro_ | the bug should be reassigned to poppler though | 13:02 |
| pedro_ | the upstream gnome task closed, and you need to open a new one for poppler | 13:02 |
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| wagafo | pedro_ : thanks, we'll do | 13:02 |
| pedro_ | wagafo, you're welcome, thanks for helping | 13:02 |
| hggdh | good morning pedro_ & jibel | 13:26 |
| hggdh | and brendand :-) | 13:26 |
| pedro_ | moi moi hggdh jibel :-) | 13:26 |
| jibel | goodmorning hggdh and pedro_ | 13:26 |
| hggdh | moi, moi & moi | 13:27 |
| pedro_ | xchat-gnome-indicator is great | 13:31 |
| brendand | good morning hggdh | 13:32 |
| seb128 | pedro_, is it? | 13:32 |
| brendand | certainly a lot better than not having xchat/-gnome-indicator | 13:33 |
| pedro_ | seb128, it does what i want to , at least i'm not missing messages :-P | 13:33 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:33 |
| brendand | am i right in thinking it's recommended by xchat in oneiric? | 13:34 |
| seb128 | it is | 13:34 |
| seb128 | xchat-gnome (1:0.30.0~git20100421.29cc76-1ubuntu2) oneiric; urgency=low | 13:34 |
| seb128 | [ Jorge Castro ] | 13:34 |
| seb128 | * Recommend xchat-gnome-indicator to get Unity integration (LP: #790821) | 13:34 |
| brendand | nice! | 13:34 |
| brendand | was thinking i didn't install it explicitly | 13:35 |
| brendand | didn't have to! | 13:35 |
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| hggdh | well, there is no boredom on Oneiric | 14:15 |
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| brendand | pedro_ - empty mail? | 14:53 |
| jibel | pedro_, bugday email is empty | 14:53 |
| jibel | :) | 14:53 |
| hggdh | jibel, pedro_: would you have nvidia? | 14:57 |
| jibel | hggdh, I do, but on a stable system | 14:57 |
| pedro_ | brendand, jibel ! oh i blame evolution | 14:57 |
| * pedro_ checking | 14:57 | |
| brendand | so do i | 14:57 |
| hggdh | reason is, after the Most Recent Updates (TM) on Oneiric I lost nVidia (nouveau now kicks in, no matter what) and by Unity is ah, quite weird | 14:58 |
| pedro_ | odd it appears empty in my sent folder as well | 14:58 |
| jibel | hggdh, I lied. it's an ATI, I have an nvidia with oneiric if you want to test something. | 14:59 |
| hggdh | jibel: if you can update to latest and reboot, I would like to know if nouveau kicks in | 14:59 |
| hggdh | *even* with nvidia set up | 14:59 |
| jibel | pedro_, the 'compose' feature of evolution has been moved to thunderbird ;-) | 14:59 |
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| pedro_ | lol | 15:00 |
| hggdh | pedro_: and -- gasp! -- now it works | 15:00 |
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| * jibel reboots | 15:02 | |
| roadmr | pedro_: I got the Ubuntu Bug Day mail but it's empty :( | 15:05 |
| pedro_ | roadmr, yeah evolution fault | 15:06 |
| roadmr | pedro_: ok :) | 15:06 |
| hggdh | hum. jibel is not back yet... | 15:11 |
| * hggdh wonders if jibel reproduced the issue(s) | 15:12 | |
| jibel | hggdh, nouveau and nvidia are ok here | 15:15 |
| hggdh | darn! | 15:15 |
| jibel | hggdh, if nvidia-current is installed it is loaded otherwise it falls back to nouveau | 15:16 |
| hggdh | jibel: OK, must be something here | 15:16 |
| jibel | hggdh, and xorg.conf is just | 15:17 |
| jibel | Section "Screen" | 15:17 |
| jibel | Identifier "Default Screen" | 15:17 |
| jibel | DefaultDepth 24 | 15:17 |
| jibel | EndSection | 15:17 |
| hggdh | ah, just found libdrm\* as being from the xorg-edgers | 15:17 |
| pedro_ | oh evolution, i'm not loving you today... | 15:27 |
| pedro_ | announcement resend | 15:27 |
| pedro_ | brendand, jibel roadmr thanks for the ping about it :-) | 15:27 |
| * charlie-tca thinks pedro_ should go to claws-mail; it "just works" | 15:28 | |
| brendand | so does thunderbird | 15:28 |
| * jibel thinks mutt is the way to go, full screen email client in Unity. | 15:28 | |
| brendand | thank god it'll be default in oneiric | 15:29 |
| jibel | mutt default in Oneiric ? | 15:29 |
| brendand | thunderbird | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | mutt? | 15:29 |
| pedro_ | charlie-tca, is that the evolution kind of looking email client? | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | pedro_: don't really know, haven't used anything else in about three years | 15:30 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, mutt has perfect screen reader support too. | 15:30 |
| pedro_ | mutt? come on be serious | 15:30 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: I have enough problems making this weechat work in terminals | 15:30 |
| charlie-tca | But I can believe mutt has screen-reader support. It seems almost perfect! | 15:31 |
| roadmr | mutt forever! | 15:31 |
| * charlie-tca likes his GUI though! | 15:32 | |
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| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 2 starting in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 15:37 |
| davmor2 | brendand: tell my oneiric install on netbook that 132% cpu usage from thunderbird | 15:40 |
| brendand | davmor2 - that's true. still, it does what i want it to (and more importantly doesn't do what i don't want it to) | 15:42 |
| davmor2 | brendand: Evolution worked fine on that netbook, as does claws, and slypheed (or whatever it's called) | 15:43 |
| brendand | a problem with saving/setting a setting is probably going to be in gnome-settings-daemon, right? | 15:49 |
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| seb128 | brendand, that control center dialog and option for autologin is new, it's not something which worked and got broken | 16:14 |
| brendand | sure the dialog is new, but the ability to change it isn't | 16:16 |
| brendand | thus, it worked and then it didn't | 16:17 |
| brendand | or is autologin not the same as 'don't ask for password on login'? | 16:22 |
| pedro_ | brendand, on bug 808136 is better to wait for it to get retraced instead of just closing it if the user cannot provide steps to reproduce it | 16:29 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 808136 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808136 | 16:29 |
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| hggdh | this is... different. I boot normally, get Nouveau loaded, even if /etc/modprobe.d has a blacklist for it. I boot in recovery mode, Nouveau is *not* loaded | 16:40 |
| brendand | pedro_ - oh, it won't get retraced if it's closed... yes | 16:55 |
| komputes | pedro_: hggdh: I see a maeeting for now in the fridge cal http://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/fridge/ | 17:28 |
| komputes | topic says meeting on the 14th, don't see it in the cal. | 17:28 |
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| charlie-tca | Meetings were changed to Thursday | 17:38 |
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| jibel | kamusin, I'm not sure to understand bug 809500, do you use unity ? | 19:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 809500 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "terminal is not remembering my preference (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809500 | 19:27 |
| kamusin | jibel, yes.. I use unity-2d | 19:35 |
| kamusin | the problem is that gnome-terminal is not remembering some settings for instance in this case the "Show menu bar" (not sure if is the exactly translation) | 19:36 |
| jibel | kamusin, the menu is integrated to the top panel then and it is not applicable there, isn't it ? | 19:38 |
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| kamusin | that could be another problem thought heh | 19:39 |
| jibel | kamusin, are there any other setting that gnome-terminal doesn't remember ? | 19:39 |
| kamusin | jibel, let me check | 19:40 |
| jibel | kamusin, if not, that's likely a dup of bug 728040 | 19:40 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 728040 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Global Menu: Terminal: View->Show Menubar toggle makes no sense (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 48)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728040 | 19:40 |
| kamusin | jibel, heh got it | 19:41 |
| kamusin | is a duplicate of that report, thank you | 19:42 |
| kamusin | however, seems like is just affecting to unity 3d in that case.. in my case I'm running unity-2d | 19:43 |
| jibel | kamusin, the behavior should be the same, if not that is a bug indeed. I'm trying it now. | 19:44 |
| jibel | kamusin, there's really a bug in gnome-terminal. I tried in gnome instead of Unity and it fails to remember this setting. | 19:49 |
| jibel | kamusin, thanks for catching this | 19:49 |
| kamusin | jibel, np ;) | 19:49 |
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