[12:13] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[12:18] <dscassel> Morning, BluesKaj
[12:35] <BluesKaj> hi dscassel
[22:31] <dscassel> Meeting in 1/2 an hour.
[22:32] <dscassel> I'm heading to Kwartzlab if any KW people want to join me there. (Looking at you, BobJonkman :)
[22:35] <hakimsheriff> Helloe everybody
[22:42] <BobJonkman> O Hai, dscassel
[22:43] <BobJonkman> Just got home to Elmira.  Feeling a bit baffed, would rather be NIFOC
[22:43] <hakimsheriff> Have a meeting in 15 minutes, right?
[22:44] <BobJonkman> By ourselves, if necessary
[22:49] <fhassouneh> hello everyone
[22:49] <BobJonkman> Hi there, fhassouneh
[22:49] <fhassouneh> Hi BobJonkman
[22:50] <BobJonkman> I'm thinking dscassel is in transit to #kwartzlab, so he may not yet be at a terminal (that's his irssi presence in the channel)
[22:51] <dscassel> Back!
[22:51] <dscassel> Meeting in 10
[22:51] <BobJonkman> Yay!
[22:53]  * BobJonkman is looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-07-12
[22:53] <dscassel> Thanks, BobJonkman :)
[22:54] <dscassel> Like I said, not a lot on the agenda.  Anybody want to add anything?
[22:54] <BobJonkman> How about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[22:54] <dscassel> Oh yeah!
[22:54] <dscassel> Mentioned it last time, but it bears repeating.
[22:54] <BobJonkman> Should be on now...
[22:57] <BobJonkman> Ah, I guess the last session today ended at 5:00pm EDT
[22:58] <dscassel> Runs all week!
[22:58]  * BobJonkman grabs a last-minute beverage, and prepares to compute outside on the back deck
[22:58] <dscassel> Hold on, denting the meeting.
[23:01] <dscassel> (People should follow @UbuntuWaterloo on twitter/identica, btw. That's me).
[23:01] <dscassel> (There's no Ubuntu Canada account, but people can use !ubuntuca on identica or #ubuntuca on Twitter.
[23:02] <dscassel> Meeting start! Introductions are in order.
[23:02] <dscassel> Who are you? Where are you from? What are you doing for/with Ubuntu?
[23:03] <dscassel> I'm Darcy, in Waterloo. I'm the LoCo contact for Ubuntu Canada, and run events and stuff here in town.
[23:04] <fhassouneh> I'm Fouad, from st johns, NL. I study computer engineering and I work in signal and image processing
[23:05] <hakimsheriff> I am Hakim Sheriff, in Montreal,  I distribute "Powered By Ubuntu" STickers for System76 (Temporarily not since I am moving) and I try to help here and there.
[23:05] <dscassel> Awesome! Welcome, fhassouneh.
[23:05] <txwikinger> o/
[23:05] <dscassel> Is there much of an Ubuntu community in St John's? Any LUGs or anything?
[23:05] <dscassel> Hi, hakimsheriff :)
[23:05] <hakimsheriff> Hi Fouad!
[23:05] <fhassouneh> I think most of my Data structures class use ubuntu
[23:06] <fhassouneh> but we dont have any community here
[23:06] <hakimsheriff> Hey dscassel
[23:06] <fhassouneh> hi hakimsheriff
[23:06] <fhassouneh> hey dscassel
[23:06] <dscassel> Cool. U Waterloo's CS and Math departments are all ubuntu now. :)
[23:06] <txwikinger> dscassel: rgreening is in St. Johns
[23:07] <dscassel> Mass Call! KombuchaKip sipherdee IdleOne Kulag cyphermox Jaguar james_w willwh johanbr MylesBraithwaite zeroedout FiReSTaRT Kamondelious ryanakca zul !
[23:08] <dscassel> (Sorry, forgot earlier)
[23:08] <dscassel> Meeting start!
[23:08] <fhassouneh> oh thats interesting, cz st. john's is a small city, so i definitly met him before
[23:08] <dscassel> Introduce yourselves if you could. :)
[23:08] <KombuchaKip> Hey folks. My name's Kip. I'm the principle developer behind the Avaneya project, a cerebral science fiction game for Ubuntu (www.avaneya.com).
[23:09] <KombuchaKip> I'm from White Rock, British Columbia, and sometimes Vancouver.
[23:10] <dscassel> Hi Kip. :)
[23:11] <FiReSTaRT> hey darcy\
[23:12] <BobJonkman> BobJonkman is Bob Jonkman from Elmira, ON, just north of Waterloo
[23:12] <FiReSTaRT> dropped in for a couple, but watching copa america
[23:12] <FiReSTaRT> chile playing peru
[23:12] <KombuchaKip> dscassel: Hey man. Check out what the Avaneya VikingExtractor pulled out yesterday. This is a real pic. http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=197342&d=1310504995
[23:13] <BobJonkman> KomuchaKip: I get "You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. "
[23:14] <BobJonkman> /.../ KombuchaKip: I get "You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. "
[23:14] <hakimsheriff> BobJonkman: You need to login to the Forums
[23:14] <hakimsheriff> to be able to see it
[23:15] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman: Ubuntu forum I think you have to sign in to see message attachments.
[23:15] <dscassel> KombuchaKip: Huh. Is that all rendered, or just the lander superimposed on Mars photos?
[23:15]  * BobJonkman grumbles about yet more logging inning
[23:15] <KombuchaKip> dscassel / BobJonkman: It's real. Very exciting. Details on how we got it out here: https://www.avaneya.com/temp/Avaneya%20Crew%20Handbook.pdf
[23:16] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman: That you certainly don't need to login for.
[23:17]  * txwikinger is on his way
[23:18] <dscassel> KombuchaKip: That's cool. I was assuming Avaneya was just the game.
[23:19] <dscassel> See you soon, txwikinger :)
[23:19] <dscassel> Okay, we don't have much of an agenda today, but we should get started...
[23:19] <KombuchaKip> dscassel: It is, but we needed the Viking Lander images to make the material shaders realistic.
[23:19] <dscassel> Events!
[23:20]  * BobJonkman grumbles that he has to log into http://ubuntuforums.org and not https://ubuntuforums.org
[23:20] <BobJonkman> Sorry.
[23:20] <dscassel> Ubuntu Global Jam is coming up September 2-4.
[23:20] <dscassel> We're going to host a jam here at Kwartzlab (the hackerspace in KW)
[23:21] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman: Don't worry. Soon we'll have them all in PNG for you to download.
[23:21] <dscassel> There seemed to be interest in hosting one in Toronto at Free Geek, but I haven't heard what's going on with that.
[23:21] <dscassel> I need to hunt down a point contact person there.
[23:22] <dscassel> If people want to run one, it's pretty fun.
[23:22] <dscassel> Not as easy as an Ubuntu Hour, but a great way to get people contributing to the project.
[23:22] <dscassel> Anybody running (heard about) other Jams?
[23:24] <dscassel> I'm assuming that's a no.
[23:24] <zeroedout> nope :)
[23:24] <hakimsheriff> nope
[23:24] <fhassouneh> nope
[23:24] <dscassel> hakimsheriff: Nothing in Montreal?
[23:25] <hakimsheriff> dscassel: not sure
[23:25] <dscassel> (Quebec has its own loco, but I like to know these things so I can tell people about them if they ask. :)
[23:25] <hakimsheriff> Im not very involved with Ubuntu Quebec
[23:26] <dscassel> hakimsheriff: Still haven't made it out to an Ubuntu hour, eh?
[23:26] <hakimsheriff> not really,
[23:26] <hakimsheriff> im currently VERY busy
[23:26] <dscassel> MagicFab's a good guy.  I'm looking forward to meeting him next month. :)
[23:27] <BobJonkman> Are you going to MagicFab, or is MagicFab coming to KW?
[23:27] <dscassel> BobJonkman: I'm going to Montreal. :)
[23:27] <dscassel> Anyway, Ubuntu Developer Week is on this week in #ubuntu-classroom.
[23:28] <dscassel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[23:28] <dscassel> If you're interested in programming for or on Ubutu, it's a great place to learn about different technologies and techniques.
[23:29] <fhassouneh> Thanks a lot dscassel
[23:29] <dscassel> no problem, fhassouneh :)
[23:29] <dscassel> Hope it's helpful.
[23:29] <dscassel> I've attended in the past.
[23:29] <dscassel> I kinda forgot about it this week (doesn't help I'm at work when it's going).
[23:30] <fhassouneh> oh ok, it should be interesting
[23:30] <dscassel> I'll probably fire up Lernid and have it running in the backround at work.
[23:31] <dscassel> Ubuntu Vancouver's Randall Ross is running a similar event: Ubuntu Community Week.
[23:31] <dscassel> Similar, but about building the community.
[23:32] <sipherdee> dscassel: thanks for mentionning it again, i am back from vacation so i will check #ubuntu-classroom.
[23:32] <dscassel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCommunityWeek
[23:32] <dscassel> No problem, sipherdee :)
[23:32] <dscassel> It's July 18-22 in #ubuntu-classroom.
[23:33] <dscassel> (Although I think they're pushing Lernid, because you get slides and it's easier for non-technical people).
[23:33] <cgroza> Too late for the meeting?
[23:34] <dscassel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lernid
[23:34] <dscassel> cgroza: Nope! We're still going.
[23:34] <dscassel> Although we're coming to the end of the posted agenda.
[23:35] <dscassel> Anybody else running, know of events they'd like to talk about?
[23:35] <BobJonkman> Is the Ubuntu CD Bribery Program still on?
[23:35] <dscassel> Assuming the answer is no, anything I can do to convince you it's a good idea?
[23:35] <dscassel> BobJonkman: Yeah, but no bites.
[23:36] <dscassel> Ubuntu CD Bribery Program is I will send you a package of 10 CDs if you run an Ubuntu Hour in your town, and post pictures/blog about it.
[23:36] <dscassel> A bargain!
[23:36] <dscassel> I'll probably throw in stickers and buttons too. :D
[23:37] <BobJonkman> Maybe I can distribute some CDs at events like the Guelph Web Makers Meetup and the KW Design/Developers Meetup
[23:37] <hakimsheriff> Be Right Back,
[23:38] <dscassel> Ubuntu Hours are fun and easy! You just find a nice cafe somewhere, advertise when you're going to be there (twitter/identica/forums/the mailing list/loco.ubuntu.com)
[23:38] <dscassel> And people show up! You meet other cool Ubuntu people! And you can make nefarious plans for release parties and whatnot. :D
[23:39] <dscassel> Or you dont' have to talk about ubuntu at all, if other things come up.
[23:39] <dscassel> Totally informal.
[23:39] <dscassel> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour/
[23:39] <BobJonkman> And we have one in KW next Wednesday
[23:39] <dscassel> Yup!
[23:39] <dscassel> BobJonkman: I brought CDs for you to KWLUG, but you weren't there. :(
[23:40] <dscassel> I'll have some to give you next week.
[23:40]  * hakimsheriff is back!
[23:40] <dscassel> yay!
[23:40] <BobJonkman> *grins* because #gwmm is tomorrow...
[23:40] <BobJonkman> But #kwdm is the week after Ubuntu Hour
[23:41] <dscassel> BobJonkman: You should be here! I've got them in my car. :)
[23:42] <BobJonkman> That'll teach me...
[23:42] <dscassel> fhassouneh: You should totally run an Ubuntu Hour in St John's.
[23:43] <dscassel> Anything else anyone wants to talk about?
[23:43] <fhassouneh> dscassel: I think its a great idea, i think i'll run one soon, i just need some information and ill definitely find some ppl to help me here
[23:43] <dscassel> fhassouneh: Great!
[23:44] <dscassel> Yeah, see if you can get in touch with rgreening. :D
[23:44] <dscassel> And let me know if you have any questions about it. There's really nothing to it.
[23:44] <fhassouneh> ok i think it will be a fun experience
[23:45] <dscassel> We gotta get one going regularly in Linuxcaffe in Toronto. I should poke the Free Geek guys.
[23:45] <fhassouneh> by the way all the computers at memorial univerity have ubuntu 8.04 installed on them
[23:45] <dscassel> fhassouneh: Yeah, that's where U Waterloo is too.
[23:45] <fhassouneh> dscassel: yeah thats awesome
[23:46] <dscassel> I'm just happy I'm able to run Ubuntu at work now.  No more Windows! :D
[23:47] <BobJonkman> I've been running rogue Ubuntu at work for about 6 months.
[23:47] <dscassel> BobJonkman: I'm making it possible for other developers to run Ubuntu at work too. :D
[23:48] <BobJonkman> Need Virtual Box to run WinXP for MS-only apps like OneNote and Exchange (because the Exchange server is too damaged to properly deal with UTF-8 in SMTP)
[23:48] <dscassel> Our old IDE is Windows-only.  I'm making a new cross-platform one based on Eclipse. :D
[23:49] <dscassel> BobJonkman: Yeah. I need IE for a few things still.
[23:49] <dscassel> I installed Crossover Pro trial to get Office running because I need to mark up Word docs sometimes.
[23:50] <dscassel> (I'm thinking the meeting is pretty much over, btw. But I'll be around for a bit if anyone wants to chat)
[23:50] <BobJonkman> I'm hoping the money argument will win over management types to adopt Linux - no OS license fees, no server license fees, no application license fees...
[23:50] <dscassel> BobJonkman: For us, we support Linux for our customers, but developers aren't testing it.
[23:50] <BobJonkman> Maybe we should form a special interest group, the Ubuntu Rogues
[23:51] <fhassouneh> nice to meet everyone today, sand I'll keep u all updated about the ubuntu hour :)
[23:51] <fhassouneh> have to go now
[23:51] <dscassel> Getting developers developing on Linux cuts down on embarassing bugs.
[23:51] <BobJonkman> Bye fhassouneh!
[23:51] <dscassel> See you, fhassouneh. thanks for coming out. :)
[23:52] <fhassouneh> dscassel: see you
[23:52] <hakimsheriff> fhassouneh: Goodbye!
[23:58] <dscassel> BobJonkman: Ubuntu Rogues. I like that. Infiltrate and assimilate. :D